I tried googling this but could not find anything. Does anyone know the power needed to keep the Turbo 2 from having the battery drained when running with the screen on full time?
With my Turbo 1 I was using an older Blackberry wall plug in my Jeep's power outlet and that was good enough to keep the phone at the same battery level while running Waze(as in, no battery drain, but also not charging).
With the Turbo 2 it is slowly draining using the same wall power supply.
I was wondering if anyone knew the minimum power I would need to keep the screen up 100% of the time, like when running Waze? It can be any form of power supply since I have a plug in outlet in the Jeep, as well as cigarette outlets and USB.
I could easily use the charger that came with it, but it pulls 25w which is a little much and can cause car battery issues over the long run, which I am trying to prevent.
I use charger for cigarette outlet with 1 A output. If screen is off, charges phone. If is on, keeps on the same level or charges slowly. Real amperage depends of the usage, screen brightness, etc. Of course, you can always use ammeter and measure exact current in the specific condition.
You can Buy the motorola turbo charger for car. I bought the moto X Force here in Best Buy México, and it came for free. Maybe it can solve your problem.
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We have many m5000 / Universals and they are so slow to charge and the battery life is terrible.
so this is not a one off. It takes hours...
The device takes forever to charge regardless of using charger, usb2pc charger or even car charger and if you make a phone whilst on charge- for instance on the car charger... if I make a call even whilst its on charge or use my tomtomsat nav - theres a high chance it will run out of power before the journey ends.
Anyone else had this issue.
USB is a slow charge. Don't know about the car. Mains charger does not seem much longer than most modern devices. Battery life will suffer if you don't close PIE after use.
Last week I was traveling, and I ran the battery on my 8125 dry. I got the unit to boot twice, but only for a few seconds, then it blinked out again. It never got past the initial screen. No big deal, I thought, I just charge it at the next opportunity. But when I hooked up the charger, nothing happened. No charging light, and no charging (left unit on charger overnight, tried 3 different chargers). Took the unit to an AT&T store, but they don't sell batteries. Fortunately, the clerk used the same phone and took the battery out of his and put it in my 8125. The unit booted, and when he connected a charger, the charging light came on and charged the phone. I moved it directly to a car charger, and the phone has been fine since then.
Did HTC build in a catch-22 here? When the battery is totally empty, you can't boot the phone and it will not go into charge mode?
Is there perhaps a way around this, other than having a spare battery that has to be kept in a charged state?
If you read around this thread, there are LOTS of posts about this. Yes, the battery in the 8125 is goofy. It'll crap out at you if the power goes below (and I'm recalling from memory, so this may be wrong) 5% of full charge.
Don't drain your battery completely. I usually shut my phone off around 10-15% and only power it when absolutely necessary until it's been recharged. If you drain it dead, it typically won't charge unless you use your AC adapter charger, or in rare cases your car charger. USB doesn't provide enough juice to jump over the dead-battery hurdle. Apparently, in your case, that wasn't even enough.
The best things you can do for yourself is show the actual battery strength on your today screen somewhere (doesn't matter how, or with what). Use something that shows the actual battery strength in linear value, not logarithmic value. This will help keep you from accidentally draining it. Also, like you said, buy a spare battery. My usage isn't that high, I can usually go 2-3 days without charging, but if you're draining it daily, an extra battery is a near absolute requirement.
This is usual for these phones. When battery goes dry it's very hard to charge it. You can wake battery up with atx power supply or similar with 5volt output. Just connect wire from power supply +5 volt line(red wire) to battery + and second wire from power supply ground line(black wire) to battery -. Power on atx power. After 1-2 min your battery is alive and you can boot up your phone and charge a battery.
Hi everyone!
I'm the happy possessor of a three-week-old Nexus 4. I'm writing because I think I might have some problems with the charger. If I connect the AC plug to the wall (without connecting it to the phone) and then I unplug it after two seconds and I bring the adapter to my ear, I can distinctly hear a buzzing noise.
As long as the charger is working fine, I said to myself, I'm not taking it as an issue. Well, I think that now something is maybe going wrong: charge times are unacceptable: yesterday when the phone was at 1% of battery left I switched it off and plugged it to the wall. I let it charge for three and a half whole hours before it finally finished charging. Charge times are almost similar when the phone is on, but I don't have to touch it, otherwise it's going to take ages before it fully charges.
Before trying to charge the Nexus 4 with HTC Desire's charger (I haven't done so already as it's written all over the place to always charge phones with the chargers provided), I wanted to know your experience: does your charger buzz as well if you plug it to the wall and you bring it to your ear?
How long does a full charge generally take to you?
That buzzing noise is pretty normal for such AC power supplys. I think most of them do the buzzing thing.
My experience with charge times are similar to yours. From 0% to 100% is about 3 hours with stock charger. 3 hours isn't exactly great, but considering the rather high battery capacity, it isn't bad either. But you are right - If you have a charger with a higher charging current, you can try if it will charge faster.
No matter what amperage charger you use, your phone will only draw a set amount of amps
Thank you all, guys! I can stop worrying now
Guys, I'm hoping someone familiar with LiPo battery charging can give me some insight. I've done some diagnostics, and I'd like your take...
- Nexus 7 3G, purchased a few weeks ago. 4.2.1, not rooted, stock charger and cable
- Battery life seems good, fully charges and discharges 'normally'
- I usually charge with the device powered off (ie: blocky battery icon in the middle of the screen).
However....
- On two occasions now, I've left it on the charger for a long time (>15 hours) and have come back to a dead device.
- Pressing the power button doesn't bring up the blocky battery icon.
- Holding the power button for 30+ seconds brings the device back back.
- It has otherwise never failed to boot properly during normal use.
Out of curiosity, I was wondering if there was something wrong with the charging process causing this, so
- I plugged the stock charger into my Kill-A-Watt last night to monitor the charging current.
- Even 8 hours after the device finished charging (via the blocky icon), the current never dropped to zero - it stuck around 10mA on the AC side (ie: ~1.2W).
- My first N7 (sent back for a bad speaker and dead pixels) went to zero after charging. My iPad does the same.
QUESTION(S):
I know modern LiPo batteries have internal circuitry to prevent overcharging, but does it sound like that circuitry might be defective on mine such that I should be worried about overcharging? Could that be the reason for my lockups?
I really don't want to go through the return process again if I don't have to. I'd rather just live with it if I can prevent damage by taking it off the charger when complete. Thoughts? Opinions? Have any of you done this test, and if so, does yours go to zero?
Thanks for any insight!
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However....
- On two occasions now, I've left it on the charger for a long time (>15 hours) and have come back to a dead device.
- Pressing the power button doesn't bring up the blocky battery icon.
- Holding the power button for 30+ seconds brings the device back back.
- It has otherwise never failed to boot properly during normal use.
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That might be a possible cause... Leaving any device plugged in the charger for long periods of time is not recommended. Anyway have you tried charging the tablet with another charger with a higher output? If it refuses to turn on even after holding the power button for 30 seconds you might be able to "wake" it up by using a higher output charger. Thats what I did on my Nexus 7 when the battery level went too low.
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That might be a possible cause... Leaving any device plugged in the charger for long periods of time is not recommended. Anyway have you tried charging the tablet with another charger with a higher output? If it refuses to turn on even after holding the power button for 30 seconds you might be able to "wake" it up by using a higher output charger. Thats what I did on my Nexus 7 when the battery level went too low.
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Hmmm...everything I've read has indicated that Lithium Ion/Polymer batteries can be left on a charger without damage since they have internal circuitry to prevent overcharging (although I realize a constant topping off is probably not wise in the long run). As for a charger with a higher output, I thought the stock charger was 2.1A....I've never heard of a 3A or 4A USB charger. Can you clarify what you mean?
Also, as I said, on the two occasions it has locked up, holding the power button has brought it back, so I'm not really asking about how to get it back if it locks up - I'm asking if the behavior (locking up, charge current not dropping to 0) is indicative of a battery that has faulty overcharge protection.
Thanks though!
The "charger" IC inside the N7 not only charges the battery but at the same time powers the device - it should allow use of a N7 with no or a faulty battery. I've never looked at the standby settings on the N7 but I would suggest that is where your 1W is going. The only info about the IC I know is http://www.summitmicro.com/prod_select/summary/SMB347/SMB347.htm
Added I think this is an identical TI version of the chip http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusaw5a/slusaw5a.pdf
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The "charger" IC inside the N7 not only charges the battery but at the same time powers the device - it should allow use of a N7 with no or a faulty battery. I've never looked at the standby settings on the N7 but I would suggest that is where your 1W is going. The only info about the IC I know is http://www.summitmicro.com/prod_select/summary/SMB347/SMB347.htm
Added I think this is an identical TI version of the chip http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slusaw5a/slusaw5a.pdf
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Thanks - that's good info. However, since I have been charging with the device off, it would seem to me that it shouldn't be drawing any standby current...unless just the act of charging puts the unit in a form of standby. It also still doesn't explain why my first unit went to 0A a while after charging completed, while this one doesn't. I'm now wondering if I may be looking at roundoff error. The resolution of the kill-a-watt is .01A - which is what I'm seeing. It could just be that both units drew some current after charge completion, but this one pulls marginally more.
So, my question still stands. Does anyone familiar with LiPo technology know if this sounds like my overcharge protection circuitry is faulty? Is it normal for a device that has completed charging to draw SOME current, and if so, how much? Would someone else with a Kill-A-Watt be willing to try this and let me know what you see?
Thanks again for the help guys...
Just in case anyone is still following this thread, I have some new info. I charged my N7 last night POWERED ON.....and after charging was complete, the AC current draw went to 0A. I'm starting to wonder now whether the 1.2W constant power I saw when charging powered off is the power needed to keep the charging circuitry alive while the tablet is powered off. When the device is powered on, maybe this circuitry is running off the battery allowing the AC draw to go to 0A. I have absolutely nothing to support this, so it's just a guess/hypothesis, but at least I know my N7 is behaving the same as my first one. I also loaded Simple Battery Logger while doing my last charge and all looks normal....it charged up to about 4.208V, indicated 'full', then the voltage start dropping off - which tells me that it stopped charging. It also maintained a temp of about 23C throughout the process. I'm running a battery test right now and it doesn't seem to have been damaged by my overnight charging episodes...if anything, the battery life is better than when I first got it.
I'm going to let it go here and assume all is well. If anyone does any experiments with theirs, I'd be interested in seeing the results.
Thanks again!
I own a Galaxy S2. I have tried it using for navigation many times only to find that the battery discharges fully within 2 hours even if the phone is connected to a car charger. I used to think may be its because my car charger doesn't provide enough current to maintain the charge. But recently I found out the culprit. After around 20 minutes of use, the phone battery starts heating up, and it stops charging. I verified this with CPU-Z. It clearly shows battery overheated, power supply connected and not charging.
I was wondering if S4 also has similar issue. Has anybody used it for more than 2 hours with Google Navigation continuously while connected to car charger?
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I own a Galaxy S2. I have tried it using for navigation many times only to find that the battery discharges fully within 2 hours even if the phone is connected to a car charger. I used to think may be its because my car charger doesn't provide enough current to maintain the charge. But recently I found out the culprit. After around 20 minutes of use, the phone battery starts heating up, and it stops charging. I verified this with CPU-Z. It clearly shows battery overheated, power supply connected and not charging.
I was wondering if S4 also has similar issue. Has anybody used it for more than 2 hours with Google Navigation continuously while connected to car charger?
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The most I have used it for is about an hour and half, and while the phone did heat up, it did continue to keep charging while connected to my in-car charger (just a cheap one). I can't remember whether the charger was able to keep up with the discharge though, I think it did. I was driving in bright sunlight, so I had screen brightness on max throughout that time.
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The most I have used it for is about an hour and half, and while the phone did heat up, it did continue to keep charging while connected to my in-car charger (just a cheap one). I can't remember whether the charger was able to keep up with the discharge though, I think it did. I was driving in bright sunlight, so I had screen brightness on max throughout that time.
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I've found that the USB cable can have a big impact on the charging current. I had the same problem with my car charger not keeping the phone charged, even though I was using a 2A charger. When I changed the USB cable I managed to quadruple the charging current (from 300ma to 1200ma) and solved the problem (I measured the charging current using the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app).
HTH
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I've found that the USB cable can have a big impact on the charging current. I had the same problem with my car charger not keeping the phone charged, even though I was using a 2A charger. When I changed the USB cable I managed to quadruple the charging current (from 300ma to 1200ma) and solved the problem (I measured the charging current using the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app).
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In my case, I believe it was not because of the charging current or cable. I was trying with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. When the mobile stopped charging, I checked in CPU-Z app. The app was clearly showing status as "power supply connected, not charging and battery overheated". If I unplug the USB cable and connect it back, it will start charging again!
To make sure that I didn't miss anything, I will try with the app you suggested.
Just to update: The Galaxy Charging Current Lite doesn't seem to work with my Galaxy S2. It doesn't show any value.