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Hi all,
i was wondering if we we will get landscape view for the homescreens on htc hero after the 2.1 update.
i have seen many videos and screenshots but none of them shows htc sense homescreens in landscape.
is this feature implemented?
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Shahpur
Errr..........
I think the answer to your question is: no one gives a ****, son. Did you really think that a weak, uninspired and lame question masquerading as something of interest but merely serving to promote your poorly laid out and derivative blogging would have us all singing your praises ? I told you before, son, the only place your going to get any joy with that is in front of the mirror.
Having said this, perhaps we have all read you incorrectly. This is the renaissance man in action. You have used this 'post' as a modern medium to retell the myth of Narcissus, yourself cast as the vain youth. Or maybe this is moving on a couple of hundred years to neoclassicism - it's a difficult one to judge. When looked upon in this light I say bravo to you sir - re-educating the geeks is a fine and noble cause. Perhaps you might think of creating an allegory of HTC with all those wanting the 2.1 update cast as Tantalus, HTC the vengeful fates. It's food for thought
gabrieltit1 said:
I think the answer to your question is: no one gives a ****, son. Did you really think that a weak, uninspired and lame question masquerading as something of interest but merely serving to promote your poorly laid out and derivative blogging would have us all singing your praises ? I told you before, son, the only place your going to get any joy with that is in front of the mirror.
Having said this, perhaps we have all read you incorrectly. This is the renaissance man in action. You have used this 'post' as a modern medium to retell the myth of Narcissus, yourself cast as the vain youth. Or maybe this is moving on a couple of hundred years to neoclassicism - it's a difficult one to judge. When looked upon in this light I say bravo to you sir - re-educating the geeks is a fine and noble cause. Perhaps you might think of creating an allegory of HTC with all those wanting the 2.1 update cast as Tantalus, HTC the vengeful fates. It's food for thought
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actually this is even not the first time i posted something about my blog, i.e. i posted my htc sense review and my motorola milestone review. luckily the people understood that i really meant to provide some information for the interested, and i got some positive feedback.
oh BTW: haven't you send me a private message asking to collaborate on my blog? i still have that in my inbox. funny.
and no, the question wasn't a cheap disguise, as you can see nobody could answer it. i still want to know if we will get landscape view as its a very good feature i got used to on my milestone testdevice.
No landscape mode im afraid (not juding by the video clips ive seen of the legend which runs 2.1 and new sense UI but does not tilt orientation.
and in response to the response - nice use of the english language ......... and you re right its food for thought ha ha
jporch316 said:
No landscape mode im afraid (not juding by the video clips ive seen of the legend which runs 2.1 and new sense UI but does not tilt orientation.
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i hope this is not true. i really hate it when browsing on landscape mode and when you need to do something on the homcescreens you'll get the vertical view.
this would be a killer criteria. the more i see which way htc sense goes, the more i lean toward the nexus one (faster updates, landscape view).
I didnt realise the nexus one could tilt the homescreen !!!
and dont let gabriel tit put you off your blogging man. I quite often have a look at links and blogs on forums - sometimes theres a nuggett of information that is interesting on them!!!!!
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I didnt realise the nexus one could tilt the homescreen !!!
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well it has android 2.1 running and afaik this is a standard feature of it.
on htc desire you have the htc sense overlay which may be the reason for the missing landscape view.
milestone has it so i'm expecting that the nexus one has it too, but i'm not 100% sure.
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and dont let gabriel tit put you off your blogging man. I quite often have a look at links and blogs on forums - sometimes theres a nuggett of information that is interesting on them!!!!!
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yeah, normally i wouldn't. but i could see this discussion going on off topic, and then it would really look like cheap advertising as many people would check out the topic when its at the top of the message board. Therefore i deleted that part and kept the question which i really wanted to get an answer for.
Ladies
See through the cheap masquerade - Jesus wept - you geeks aren't the sharpest tools
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See through the cheap masquerade - Jesus wept - you geeks aren't the sharpest tools
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AND HE SCOOOOOOOOORES m8 srsly ure the only one who sees behind his deception LOL
back to topic: id love to have an option to enable landscape on home screen, so yes, i give a ****
Read the Question
When I say you geeks aren't the sharpest tools - apart from the appauling use of grammar or lack of it - read the question - I haven't attacked the question per say - rather the cheap attempt at posing a 'question' masquerading as a tool to get you poor unsuspecting fools to read the crap this fool has written elsewhere.
I don't suffer fools yet ironically suffer them alot - this site, for all it's purported intelligence commonly shows a distinct lack of it - Boo Hoo
someone lock this thread up
Using tradition as knowledge HTC will never add landscape to Sense UI unless they release a device with physical keyboard...
Dont mind Gabriel...hes always here trying to bring attention to himself,using empty off-topic phrases in order to look smarter and enlighted.
Thread closed.
This obviously isn't directed to everyone. But to those few, please show everyone absolute respect. There's never a need for name calling or rude behavior. We all learn this as small children. Let's do our best to carry this into our adult lives. Okay?
hi all,
in a few days (waiting for wirefly shipping), i'll be an incredible owner. i've done quite a bit of research on the phone up to this point, including coming across this forum and seeing that it was among the most active and informative on the net.
i have an extensive windows skinning/modding background, having been active in the scene for almost 10 years now. i am a moderator at the now mostly defunct customize.org and also at the newer, more active pixelfuckers.org, a site that was started by some of the elite desktop modders in the world as a playground and showcase for our work. my windows screenshots and skins have been very well received by the community and have even won a few contests. i've even had a couple of shots featured on lifehacker.com. i also have a good deal of graphic design and photography/post processing experience.
what i'm getting at here is that i will most certainly be looking to mod the living hell out of my incredible when it finally arrives and i'm looking for the best way to do so. i know of apps like launcher pro and adw launcher and will certainly be utilizing them. i'm also familiar with some of the roms that are available, like cyanogen, and roughly what extra capabilities they give the user as far as customization goes. lastly, i've browsed the incredible screenshot thread and have seen
my questions are as follows :
can i do a fair amount of visual customization without rooting?
what are some free apps that are skinnable and help in visual customization?
thanks in advance everyone.
as a final thought for now, i intend to start making android-sized versions of my popular desktop wallpaper series, 'photowalls', so keep a look out for those in the near future. if you'd like links to any of my work (being a new user, i can't put them in this post), don't hesitate to ask.
You might want to check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761517
Definitely use Launcher Pro, you can choose what icons to use for applications you place on your homescreens, as well as hide apps in the app drawer.
You can also use BetterCut or Folder Organizer to change the icons on folders, all without root.
I'm not sure if you can get access to /system/app without rooting (I'm pretty sure you can't), but if it turns out you can, you can use ADB to replace the apk's with modified ones posted on this forum.
As far as skinnable widgets, I know Beautiful Widgets has a lot of skins available for it, but beyond that I haven't really looked. Hope this helps.
Welcome to the forums. Can't wait to see your work. Rooting is easy. Lots of roms. Great community. Glad to see you here.
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thanks for the tips zoon, i'll check that thread out some time.
as far as the wallpapers go, i know the formula for resolution is 1x height and 2x width, making the dinc one 960x800. is there another resolution that's overly common that i should include in the packs? i'll probably throw an iphone-sized one in there too, just to maximize the number of downloads.
also, if anyone out there is looking to collab on a theme/widget design (you do the coding, i do the graphics), i'd definitely be up for it.
I will take you up on that sometime in the future if you don't mind. Im still getting the video cam and bluetooth working. But after that i was going to start themeing/modding.
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posted a couple screenshots of what i have so far here.
i still want to look into some modified .apk's that have been posted here...could anyone point me in that direction?
I'll be a monkey's uncle.
It's you.
luvit said:
I'll be a monkey's uncle.
It's you.
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hah, have we met?
No. it just felt right to say.
i have a rooted fascinate, no im not posting where my 2.2 update is, it'll get here when it gets here, more that this is a call out to any devs and end users like myself that are tired of the same old rom styles and themes. Some roms are straight beautiful, like Thatdudebutch's super dark v1, and sos3 blackhole, whereas some just seem too stock-ish to me.
Where is the imagination? The creativity? I know devs are always working they're ass's off to bring us the next best port or rom based off insert other rom name here... but im ready for the dev that says hey i created this from scratch...
Maybe its just me, maybe im being a whiney ass lol, but i think its time devs started using what they think is cool, not what everyone else thinks is cool. If the enduser doesnt like the rom/theme, then boo ****in hoo and they can use something else.
Like i think SONOFSKYWALKER3's idea of build your own rom was a huge breakthrough in end user controlled customization, but its still using whats already available to us in either stock, or from the select few top 3 roms.
Please guys, (devs too) Show us what you can really do, make that rom that takes our breath away. We will love you for it...i will love you for it (metaphorically speaking of course lol)
Show us what you can do too
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Progress is progress. The devs are porting gb to the Fascinate, that's a start in real customization. Just wait, the devs are already working hard. If your pushing them so hard, why don't you help? Seriously, its this disappointment in devs that ruins a devs commitment.
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Why must everything be taken so negatively? I read this first post and saw it as inspiration. I can see that the devs who make roms make it for the general public not for themselves, and I think thats why they make them so similar to each other, as thats what most people like. I feel that a dev isn't really ready to go out of his/her way to bust they're ass and make a rom that only they and a handful of others are going to use.
All in all, I think the OPer made a good point in "challenging" the devs to 'unleash' their creativity into the atmosphere and make somthing of their own that they are truely balls to the wall about.
Just my 2 cents.
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Progress is progress. The devs are porting gb to the Fascinate, that's a start in real customization. Just wait, the devs are already working hard. If your pushing them so hard, why don't you help? Seriously, its this disappointment in devs that ruins a devs commitment.
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I agree completely...remember the devs don't have to do what they do for us...if it was as simple as 1,2,3 then everyone would create their own roms for themselves...
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The problem is, there's more worth in porting gingerbread and then porting other roms like cyangenmod which are easier to customize, than customizing samsung's firmware updates.
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If the enduser doesnt like the rom/theme, then boo ****in hoo and they can use something else.
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Yeah.. so what was the point of your post again?
Not at all trying to be negative, but what exactly are you looking for?
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you are all missing the point of my post
its not to bash devs, its not to berate anyone, nor was it to solicit "why dont you do it yourself" comments. But since thats how everyone is going to take it, i guess i need to clarify. What i meant by devs making what they think is cool is for them to use their imagination and make their roms and themes unique. Too many roms out there have been sourced from others...not that this is a bad thing as there are beautiful works of art available to all who wants to flash them..
These devs bust their ass to make these things for us and i respect that with all my being, and i appreciate all that they do. My hats off to all of them. But, again, wheres the creativity? Why must they be forced to use what is already in the eclair, froyo, and Gingerbread roms as their inspiration? These guys can take 0's and 1's and turn them into something beautiful that cant be taken seriously in just pictures. In the last 3 days i have flashed more things to my phone than i can hardly count, yes i have screwed my phone up and recovered, but im not here explaining without experiencing the world of flashing.
Why dont i help out....i'd love to yet im not programmer. I have zero idea how coding and programming and bitmapping works. Thats why we have developers. Im not here to bash anyone. I go to school currently to be a master mechanic, therefore computer programming is worlds different from installing and tuning a greddy turbo, or replacing a radiator, or even doing a tune up on (insert friends name here)'s car.
Im calling out to devs to stop being restrained by the limitations we as endusers have put on them, to indirectly force their hand in creating something they may not like but we will because otherwise people out there will gripe and complain. Devs, make what YOU want. There are limitless capabilities to be had in android because its so open. As developers you are the ones who provide for us when the manufacturers fail to hold up their word/rumor/promise/ etc, i dont want you to think that you have to make these for us, i want you to want to make these for us. Without you developers we would all be stuck to a basic android existence harkening to that of apple and its lockdown on whats what.
I wanna see creations from your darkest fantasies about android. I want to see the rom that gets you all hot and bothered. I want to see the theme that you got the inspiration for while you were driving around town or watching a movie. Dammit guys, make what you want to see android be, enough being the lambs, its time to be the lion. When phone manufacturers fail, where do we turn? To you devs. You. I cant even begin to describe how much respect i have for what you do for us.
I'll finish this off with something for the people who will no doubt bash me and flame because i need to do it myself, or im being to hard on them, or i'm just being a whiny little *****. boo hoo. get over it. Its my post, regarding my OPINION. I didnt force any of you to view it. to read it. to comment on it. the fact that you did shows that each one of you feels the same way i do. We all love android. We all love what the devs do. Why should we hold them back from what their imaginations can design? What gives us the right to do that....
Respect devs...always and forever from me....respect.
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Why dont i help out....i'd love to yet im not programmer. I have zero idea how coding and programming and bitmapping works. Thats why we have developers.
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Well, you don't have to be a programmer to be "creative". In the design process all sorts of people are involved, and you could think up a concept. You could design a concept so great that a programmer would like at it and think it's great and decide to bring it to life. But asking people to be creative on your behalf, and using "i'm not a programmer" as an excuse to be a spectator is simply selfish I gotta say. Not trying to bash you too much, but simply saying there's many ways to be useful.
Jdkzombie is right...when linus developed the linux kernel he basically said....here it is, go forth and multiply...,now we have tons of different flavors and styles of linux. Android is awesome in its own right but we are only customizing something already there. (Devs....i definately mean no disrespect... ). The only thing i've seen so far that has bent that rule is MIUI. but that is too close to an iphone for me. I think what jdk is trying to say is...,where are the truely custom roms with wild and crazy user interfaces. I don't think jdk is asking the devs to stop what they are doing by no means...but maybe jdks asking why can't we all b more creative and come together as a community and come up with one ourselves with ideas from all of us...,and then find devs to take the plunge and make it happen. It all starts with an IDEA. So why not...,instead of bashing in this forum... ,let's start posting things we might want to be different in android and see what happens.
Think about it...,ubuntu linux- "your name here" android?
Thanks to all, devs, themers, and the users who have donated and contributed feedback over the years to make android what it is.
I may not post here much, but when i see something worth posting about i have to add MY opinion....and that's all it is.
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i think the op has a nice idea, but this probably isnt the phone to realize it on.
we have a handful of very talented devs, but really there time is mostly tied up in attempting to right the wrongs that samsung has done to us, by working on aosp/froyo/gb whatever.
the n1/ns community (or i9000) might be the guys you d want to bring your ideas to, as they have a global base of devs and their communities dwarf ours to the point of ridiculousness
See tho, one of the first lessons they teach you in most programming courses nowadays is "why reinvent the wheel?" It's there, it does it's job, why not build on top of that framework that already exists. This is the foundational principle of software engineering.
Think about it like this: you are in the woods and need to build a fire. You have plenty of dry wood, small kindling materials, and matches. Why would you go to the trouble of locating a striker stone and a piece of Flint to use to try and start the fire when you already have matches. You wouldn't unless you had no alternative or just liked to take the inefficient route for the sake of itself.
Another way to think of it is like this:
If I needed to drive from here in Mississippi to Nevada, I wouldn't build a car to drive if I already had one.
Devs are trying g to give us the most bang for our buck and that means using the tools and frameworks already in place.
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Well, you don't have to be a programmer to be "creative". In the design process all sorts of people are involved, and you could think up a concept. You could design a concept so great that a programmer would like at it and think it's great and decide to bring it to life. But asking people to be creative on your behalf, and using "i'm not a programmer" as an excuse to be a spectator is simply selfish I gotta say. Not trying to bash you too much, but simply saying there's many ways to be useful.
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Why must you assume i havent already given my thoughts and ideas to several devs and "themers" on IRC. I have frequented that site for a good amount of time the past handful of days, both getting assistance with "de-bricking" my phone when i flash a no no to my device, and helping out who i can with their own problems.
It isnt just just me that should be "expected" to come up with new ideas here. I expect everyone to have something to contribute if you are going to post your comments (i use the word "your" in reference to everyone, not just anyone in particular)
You want a bit of my idea? I wanted to see a rom where the screens scroll vertically. Not horizontally like they "all" do. Where when you swipe the screen from left to right it open "your" favorite app. Swipe the screen from right to left and it opens the app try. I have also mentioned that a quick 3 tap on the home screen would zoom out showing a carousel of sorts that you can scroll through to select 1 of 9 home screens that can be filled to burst with your favorite widgets and apps. I dont have a preset color idea. Instead that we be afforded a color "wheel" to choose ourselves what collor basic things are. Be afforded to opportunity to make multiple themes like with ADW, that can installed "into" the rom. I assume everyone has seen the DROID commercials where the two robots select a few apps in the giant app "planet." That would be a sweet app tray wouldnt it? Would it be impossible? I dont know, since i have no idea how programming works. But im sure it would be quite the undertaking.
I would hope that this could be a place for anyone to post their ideas as well, not just mine. I also have this distinct feeling that as of my posts i will be held to a "imaginary" standard that it will be my obligation to post ideas and inspirations. But then therin lies my issue with roms today in general. These roms arent being made for me. If a developer makes anything like my idea, i want it to be something they want to see in android, not just because someone else said hey you develop roms, why dont you make this so i can have it.
This isnt/wasnt/never will be a thread to bash anyone including devs, themers, end users (other posters, but thats my point.) I wont bother to say im not going to be the only one. I dont have to post that. The sheer fact that you (the general population that bothers to read this thread) shows that wish there was more creativity, more originality,....hell....more of the "DEV" in his/her creation than anything else. It would make a developers rom/theme so much more their creation. So when someone says hey i have (for example) ThatDudeButch's new theme, its unique to HIM....the developer... and someone else that has a theme by Adiliyo (also for example) its going to be unique to HIM. Im really hoping all of you have the mental capacity (i used that term for lack of a better one, no offense intended for anyone) and the maturity level to understand that this is a challenge to all who design, develop, or theme, or even just dream to no longer be limited by the general public. Design whatever makes you get a stiffy if thats what it takes. What with the new 2.3 android os out, why should we hold the devs to make different copies of whats out. Why cant we encourage them to make the unthinkable....the un imagined...the roms that arent bound to a single line of influence.
If you (everyone and anyone) are going to post here simply to flame me for speaking my mind about what i would love to see roms and themes become, then perhaps you should consider keeping your comments to yourselves. BUT, this being a public forum, and i am no moderator, i cannot make anyone not post here, nor what they post about, so with that i will only ask that you not just post for the sake of singling out a line of any of my posts to make a snide comment on how its up to me/i need to design it/being too hard on devs ruining their commitment/etc etc. If we werent hard on engineers/developers/programmers in world-wide view considering the design of everything we use today, we wouldnt be in possession of the technological breakthroughs that we have now. We would all still have bag phones. Model A fords, if even that, we would still be riding horses....might i even be bold enough to state we wouldnt even be out of the stone age if it hadnt been for someone somewhere pushing those who build to do bigger and better things.
Please, use common sense people. Im simply issuing a challenge to devs/themers to not be constrained by our ideals. Again, to make what THEY want to make. Remember, they dont have to do this for us, so why cant they build what they want. And thats why i respect what they do.
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Im not asking for a new wheel, only a more efficient one. Thats such an over-cliched term anyways and has no merit (in my view) If we never reinvented anything, we'd not be in the possession of these beauties of creation we have today. I bet someone told Henry Ford why reinvent the wheel when he said lets have a car that can be available to the common man. Do you think Ford would be the automotive supergiant they are now if he had followed that advice? Do you think we would have Windows OS, Mac, or any of the other available computing OS's that we have now would be available now if the designers had followed your sage advice?
Please realize, im not bashing you, any of you, im not going to stoop that low. We are all adults here, and even some teenagers, whom i hope utilize that powerful muscle between their ears before they use their fingers, so why must we criticize? Why cant we , as so eloquently put in an earlier post, come together as a community and share ideas.
Just saying.
Yeah, but see all those things you mentioned arent revolutionary leaps of accomplishment, but simply evolution of existing products... refinements..
Henry Ford simply took the concepts of mass production, the assembly line, and interchangeable parts, and applied them to the automotive field. He didn't invent something new, he "engineered" something better from what was already there. He made cars more affordable, available, and easier to repair.
Technology is no different... mechanical switches to electric switches to vacuum tubes to transistors to integrated circuits, they are just extensions of what's there.
We don't still use carburetors because fuel injection is more efficient, largely because it can meter the fuel more precisely, especially at idle. But..the first fuel injection setups were just electronic carburetors, with the old central port fuel injection systems... even the newer ones still do the same thing, just more precisely...
I'd love a smartphone that could read my thoughts and had a neural interface with zero lag. Is it coming.... who knows....is it a reinvention... no, just another step in between a previous one and the next.
Something to ponder.... at the core of all operating systems is basic math.
Add one value to another and put the result here. Stick the right combo of values in the right set of registers and a pixel lights up on the screen. That's the way machine language works...so all software is an evolution of ones and zeros...
A switch is on, 1 a switch is off, 0... so basically computers are just a big ginormous pile of light switches, lol..
Anyways.... I agree, I'd live to see some real neat stuff for android, but at some point, you'd have to throw out android to make it radically different, and then it would just be yet ANOTHER attempt at a mobile os to further fragment things....instead of moving forward, we'd be moving sideways....not as bad as moving backwards, but not progress either....
That's
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Just curious, but... How do you know devs aren't creating what they want? Why would they waste time building something that they didn't want to do?
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....instead of moving forward, we'd be moving sideways....not as bad as moving backwards, but not progress either....
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I totally agree with you, but yet i also disagree. Which isnt a bad thing, at least we are agreeing to disagree i suppose lol But the point still stands. Why....why must we make do with what we have? Why not bring forth innovation? Is that not how progress is made? Im not looking for an overnight change in the way roms are designed. I only asking that the devs make it a challenge for themselves. Make something they havent done before. Im just winging this without black and white information, but how do we know that manufacturers dont look at these roms for their inspiration?
I'm only asking for that one ambitious dev who needs a challenge to strive for that next peg. The next rung on the ladder of progress. Yes Henry Ford didnt invent the automobile, but with his bringing the assembly line to his own needs he created something huge. Thats what im hoping devs will do for android. When we tire of out normal phone interfaces, to whom do we turn? Yes. thats right, these hard working devs. A vast majority of them create wonders with whats available to them. Others simply tweak and twist certain aspects to their own taste.
A phone that reads out thoughts with a neural interface with zero lag would indeed be a nice addition, but im certain 10 years down the road such a thing may come to be, but thats 10 years from now, if not more. Don't sell yourself short however, all ideas are welcome to me and to this thread. Its odd though, that with all the posts here i seem to be the only one who has put idea to page.
And to mr kevin gossett, How do we know they ARE. We dont. Its as simple as that. All that we can do is hope that there is a dev or 2 or even 3 out there that are willing to bring forth the new age of roms. We turn to these men and women because we are bored with our phones stock rom/theme, so why must the devs and us as end users together suffer the same style in the aftermarket themes and roms? Again not bashing devs here, just stating my opinion, that they need to make something that they love. there WILL be end users out there that will use their roms/themes. I still think some of you are missing my point with all of this, and instead strive to create some echelon of conflict purely for conflicts sake.
View my thread and posts as possible inspiration for the future. Not a bashing, or flaming of those who design for us. The DEVS create the roms, but the devs didnt design what they wanted to see, instead what we wanted to see. And i would love to see that reversed. The DEVS create what THEY want to see, and we use whatever we find to our tastes.
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I think I understand what the OP is saying... But at the same time I kind of understand the other side of the fence. Coding is hard, and you must be very precise, and most of these guys are doing it for free. But I know what jdk is meaning....
I think he feels that the devs are limited in what they can create because they are branching off of other works and what people like. I think he wants to see what crazy ass stuff devs can come up with. he wants their creativities to explode all over his face. He wants to see what people can imagine and create. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as he understands the devs, that they have lives, they do this for free, and its hard work, which I think he does understand. I think he's just trying to inspire some folk.
Does this forum have a sleepless ninja?
Let me explain: I am currently looking to buy a tablet for college and I am looking to get the most out of my tablet for my studies, for enjoyment and for understanding in this technological realm. Now, to me it is between the Xoom and the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and all signs point to the tab. Better screen, lighter, thinner, newer, faster etc. etc. (even the disadvantages, HDMI/USB/SD Card don't bother me as I don't really use any of that) But the Xoom has that one intangible, sleepless ninja. He shows xoom owners how to do this, how to do that and I just think the advantage of having a walk through is so high on my list that it might out weight a lot of the advantages the Tab has. Its this guy that is keeping me drawn to the Xoom, so I ask you either A) Does this forum/ community have a dedicated man like this? or B) Does anyone know if one is coming or if I did decide to get a tab would one be liked?
Yes it is a noob-friendly thing but, we were all noobs once right?
At the moment the GT10.1 is running stock version of Honeycomb, stock being the "pure" OS form no 2nd company has added anything or altered the software, this is important to know. This being said the stock version does not have "guides" or a "sleepless ninja", it will however guide you through the initial process of signing in to your accounts like Google or push email accounts.
With this being addressed Samsung does have a "layer" that goes over the "stock" Android OS and this is called Touchwiz. Samsung has not implemented this yet for their own reasons but has recently announced that it is coming "soon" as a download update. This Touchwiz may have your "secret ninjas". Touchwiz being their own creation may have "ninjas" to help explain and show all the new "bells" and "whistles" and abilities that Touchwiz will be able to do. Unfortunately like I said before Samsung has announced that is will be coming soon so till then it is the stock non "ninja" OS.
On a personal note I find the stock Honeycomb Android very intuitive and practical.( so much so that I cannot wait for the Touchwiz version ) Also I find the exploration to be half the fun Also there are TONS of websites that help you discover anything you need to know about Android on the webz and of course here in XDA. Although many do get a bit .....annoyed....some times with repeat questions someone will most usually scrape some patience and help you out, I will say to use the search option most generously though I have had my GT10.1 for over a week now and love it I am by no means a wiz but thanks to many here I am "Sleepless Ninja" free! Good luck with your choice and have fun learning.
brie987 said:
At the moment the GT10.1 is running stock version of Honeycomb, stock being the "pure" OS form no 2nd company has added anything or altered the software, this is important to know. This being said the stock version does not have "guides" or a "sleepless ninja", it will however guide you through the initial process of signing in to your accounts like Google or push email accounts.
With this being addressed Samsung does have a "layer" that goes over the "stock" Android OS and this is called Touchwiz. Samsung has not implemented this yet for their own reasons but has recently announced that it is coming "soon" as a download update. This Touchwiz may have your "secret ninjas". Touchwiz being their own creation may have "ninjas" to help explain and show all the new "bells" and "whistles" and abilities that Touchwiz will be able to do. Unfortunately like I said before Samsung has announced that is will be coming soon so till then it is the stock non "ninja" OS.
On a personal note I find the stock Honeycomb Android very intuitive and practical.( so much so that I cannot wait for the Touchwiz version ) Also I find the exploration to be half the fun Also there are TONS of websites that help you discover anything you need to know about Android on the webz and of course here in XDA. Although many do get a bit .....annoyed....some times with repeat questions someone will most usually scrape some patience and help you out, I will say to use the search option most generously though I have had my GT10.1 for over a week now and love it I am by no means a wiz but thanks to many here I am "Sleepless Ninja" free! Good luck with your choice and have fun learning.
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I do agree that the search feature needs to be used and I did. Now, I thank you for your response BUT if you had read my post you might have seen the link to sleepless ninjas website. Sleepless Ninja is a real physical person, sleeplessninja.com. The Xoom doesn't have a "sleepless ninja" embedded either, what it has is a man dedicated to trying to help out the community, with tutorials, video how-tos and so on. I was wondering if the Tab community has that same type of person or group of people who go out of their way to help the community. I am a visual learner and so videos are something I enjoy seeing as I think they help. If this is what someone here has I would love to see it.
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I do agree that the search feature needs to be used and I did. Now, I thank you for your response BUT if you had read my post you might have seen the link to sleepless ninjas website. Sleepless Ninja is a real physical person, sleeplessninja.com. The Xoom doesn't have a "sleepless ninja" embedded either, what it has is a man dedicated to trying to help out the community, with tutorials, video how-tos and so on. I was wondering if the Tab community has that same type of person or group of people who go out of their way to help the community. I am a visual learner and so videos are something I enjoy seeing as I think they help. If this is what someone here has I would love to see it.
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Hahaha its very early in NY. I ABSOLUTELY missed that. I did root my GT10.1 through XDA but it was through here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131448
I used odin to root and I am able to odin back to stock. No video that I know of yet, sorry. I am an idiot. If I come across what you are looking for (now that I know) I will post here. Good luck and sorry I wasted your time
Not yet but I vote you! Get crackin!
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I don't really see the point of this "real physical person" online. We have tons of threads dedicated to helping newbie and seriously though, most of what's applied to the XOOM will also work on the Tab as they both run stock-enough HC.
But if you can't be bothered to do a little googling/searching, maybe the XOOM and sleeplessninja are best for you.
Itaintrite said:
I don't really see the point of this "real physical person" online. We have tons of threads dedicated to helping newbie and seriously though, most of what's applied to the XOOM will also work on the Tab as they both run stock-enough HC.
But if you can't be bothered to do a little googling/searching, maybe the XOOM and sleeplessninja are best for you.
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More than anything else it is the videos that I like. I remember and understand things when I see them performed and videos to me give me that edge to be confident and know enough about what I am doing to actually jump for it.
Now,that being said the preponderance of threads, guides, walkthtoughs and the like here leaves little to be desired but curiosity did get me and, for the most part, the helpful nature of the people in this forum has shined through.
@OP
If you're buying a tab based on the degree of handholding available, the iPad is the best bet currently. Ideology aside, it has the best ecosystem, the best stable of apps, and the best peer-support, if based on size of userbase alone.
I understand, though, that ideology, or at least philosophical outlook, is pretty important. It's why XDA exists, after all, else we'd all be nibbling at S. Job's toes by now.
Then, on the issue of "durability" of peer support, none of the current Android (or RIM, or TouchPad) is a good buy. Reason is that part of the first wave of 'droid tabs have yet to show. And after that, there'll be yet a second wave of tabs before the year is out (hopefully outfitted with ICS). In short, there will be a deluge of tabs, each of which will have its little pool of users, and all of which will have very short lives. Does not bode well for that elusive "Sleepless Ninja" to pop into existence.
These, as compared to one big homogenous iPad collective. If your field is statistics, there's no contest.
But perhaps you favor fictional literature, where we can be the few Merry Men against the iHorde innumerable. Oops, getting my 'phores mixed with my phives here.. Anyway, there is an advantage to be a big frog in a small pond. Indeed, it can be YOU in that most epic '84 Apple commercial, taking a mighty swing against the faceless collective!
Yes, I hear you say, "Let me be the one, the Sleepless Ninja, the Hammer of Justice!" And I say, go forth, and make your mark! And we all say, yay, for our Sleepless Ninja is nigh!
Cheers for the OP, our new Sleepless Ninja! Here's a Thank to get you on your way. Now, get the hell to work, and let me know pronto when that custom ROM is done!
NO SLACKIN!
Picked up the S7 Edge from TMO after sadly surrendering my Note7. Wondering if there are Roms and a root method. I've searched the threads and don't see much. Any help is appreciated!!
TMO S7 Edge Root/Roms?
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MOD EDIT:
Questions belong in the Help section, not How-To. I've moved your thread there.
Rooting Procedure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
Roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/development
literally on the page i found by googling "tmobile s7 edge xda", i found a guide for rooting, along with two rom threads. and that's without even searching.
Root removes samsungpay permanently and is a bad battery drain last o checked
and also causes the phone to overheat and consistently lag/stutter even after changing kernel peramseters. root is just not worth it on the s7 edge. we need aosp/cm on this thing.
Thx for all the input guys. Much appreciated
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xVermicide said:
literally on the page i found by googling "tmobile s7 edge xda", i found a guide for rooting, along with two rom threads. and that's without even searching.
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Wasn't asking for a root method just Roms. I've been away from root for about 1.5 years when I moved form my G3 to a Note 5 so it's been a while. Had to surrender my Note7 so I was looking around and didn't see much for the edge device and especially the snapdragon model. After some looking I'm seeing more posted in the S7 section but thanks for saying so.
I'm in the same boat, waiting to receive a S7 Edge. I can't believe the state of root with this phone, I mean the Note 7 has root and it doesn't really lag , stutter or effect battery. (it can blow up though!)
Anyone try the 2 roms? Do they help bring it back to normal?
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Wasn't asking for a root method just Roms. I've been away from root for about 1.5 years when I moved form my G3 to a Note 5 so it's been a while. Had to surrender my Note7 so I was looking around and didn't see much for the edge device and especially the snapdragon model. After some looking I'm seeing more posted in the S7 section but thanks for saying so.
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actually, it says in your topic name and first post that you are looking for a root method and roms. both of which are found on the phone's XDA page without searching. also, you keep saying you were "looking around" and didn't find anything but literally all the information you need is in the guides section, which is where you should always start when you have extremely basic questions like this.
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actually, it says in your topic name and first post that you are looking for a root method and roms. both of which are found on the phone's XDA page without searching. also, you keep saying you were "looking around" and didn't find anything but literally all the information you need is in the guides section, which is where you should always start when you have extremely basic questions like this.
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Once again, thanks for the help.
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Always someone lurking in the rafters waiting for the highlight of their day, which seems to be repetitive condescension disguised in the form of a response to a question, whether it's been asked and answered already or simply something they've decided is beneath them to read or simply just pass over (and yet not so much so that they can't pop in to dispense that oh so productive and about as necessary as the offending inquiry itself complimentary condescension) Not passing judgment on said question itself, since it doesn't bother me either way. XDA has been a complete congestion zone of information for several years now and I've seen bigger offenses handled with much more patience and maturity than this one (by those who were posting in threads for cheaper phones in need of much more help than this one js). Instead of repeating your amazing accomplishments in the area of Googling (which is always my first stop, unfortunately my next is almost always XDA where the Mods are Gods and everyone thinks they're too cool to pass along some of that precious wisdom they were clearly so preoccupied with acquiring they didn't have time to brush up on some proper grammar. Or punctuation. Maybe even a quick refresher course on basic manners, a better attitude and some other fundamental social etiquette) :fingers-crossed: ok, ok, ok for the sake of not appearing to be "bullying" or "targeting" anyone in particular...and because this unnecessary rant just ate up my Red Bull and cigarette break time, the time for my digression has arrived :angel: Yfw kiddies. Now play nice or I'll come back and taunt you a second time. Because your father was a hamster and your mother smelt of elderberries NOW HUG EACH OTHER!
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Always someone lurking in the rafters waiting for the highlight of their day, which seems to be repetitive condescension disguised in the form of a response to a question, whether it's been asked and answered already or simply something they've decided is beneath them to read or simply just pass over (and yet not so much so that they can't pop in to dispense that oh so productive and about as necessary as the offending inquiry itself complimentary condescension) Not passing judgment on said question itself, since it doesn't bother me either way. XDA has been a complete congestion zone of information for several years now and I've seen bigger offenses handled with much more patience and maturity than this one (by those who were posting in threads for cheaper phones in need of much more help than this one js). Instead of repeating your amazing accomplishments in the area of Googling (which is always my first stop, unfortunately my next is almost always XDA where the Mods are Gods and everyone thinks they're too cool to pass along some of that precious wisdom they were clearly so preoccupied with acquiring they didn't have time to brush up on some proper grammar. Or punctuation. Maybe even a quick refresher course on basic manners, a better attitude and some other fundamental social etiquette) :fingers-crossed: ok, ok, ok for the sake of not appearing to be "bullying" or "targeting" anyone in particular...and because this unnecessary rant just ate up my Red Bull and cigarette break time, the time for my digression has arrived :angel: Yfw kiddies. Now play nice or I'll come back and taunt you a second time. Because your father was a hamster and your mother smelt of elderberries NOW HUG EACH OTHER!
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Lol I agree with you... I think people get tired of answering the same questions though. Especially when the answer is like 2 posts down lol.
Tmo S7 Edge
Hi there. I have 4 Tmo S7 Edge running ECHO Universal G935 Rom. First download the QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON FILES From MAX on HIGHONANDROID for US SM-G930 and G935. Big thanks to MAX and the DEVELOPERS out there who create these things. Create a folder on your computer for all the files you'll need. Download the flashfire APK file, then ECHO Universal Rom from Verizon S7 Edge Forum. Put on your phone SD card. Watch MAX video if you don't understand, flash the modify tar file, then run superSU, then install flashfire apk. I do this process under 2 minutes, I tried different Roms from Verizon, Sprint and ATT root and unroot many times. Once you get a hang of the process it will come like brushing your tooth and putting on your jacket at the same time. Good ? luck Buddy
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Always someone lurking in the rafters waiting for the highlight of their day, which seems to be repetitive condescension disguised in the form of a response to a question, whether it's been asked and answered already or simply something they've decided is beneath them to read or simply just pass over (and yet not so much so that they can't pop in to dispense that oh so productive and about as necessary as the offending inquiry itself complimentary condescension) Not passing judgment on said question itself, since it doesn't bother me either way. XDA has been a complete congestion zone of information for several years now and I've seen bigger offenses handled with much more patience and maturity than this one (by those who were posting in threads for cheaper phones in need of much more help than this one js). Instead of repeating your amazing accomplishments in the area of Googling (which is always my first stop, unfortunately my next is almost always XDA where the Mods are Gods and everyone thinks they're too cool to pass along some of that precious wisdom they were clearly so preoccupied with acquiring they didn't have time to brush up on some proper grammar. Or punctuation. Maybe even a quick refresher course on basic manners, a better attitude and some other fundamental social etiquette) :fingers-crossed: ok, ok, ok for the sake of not appearing to be "bullying" or "targeting" anyone in particular...and because this unnecessary rant just ate up my Red Bull and cigarette break time, the time for my digression has arrived :angel: Yfw kiddies. Now play nice or I'll come back and taunt you a second time. Because your father was a hamster and your mother smelt of elderberries NOW HUG EACH OTHER!
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Yes but how do you know she's a witch?
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Rayn1328 said:
Yes but how do you know she's a witch?
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Build a bridge out of her?
i am oblivion said:
Build a bridge out of her?
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What else floats? Little tiny rocks!!!!
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Sorry for lost I had to do the the same thing a few days ago it doesn't feel the same but android n is coming hold out and get red of the bloat ware on the s7edge I did it runs great can't wait for grace ux 7.0 cheers
drew272011 said:
Sorry for lost I had to do the the same thing a few days ago it doesn't feel the same but android n is coming hold out and get red of the bloat ware on the s7edge I did it runs great can't wait for grace ux 7.0 cheers
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Anyway to get Grace UX apps from the Note 7 on S7E without root?