Nexus Bugs In Update 6.0.1 - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So when I bought my Nexus 6P I knew I was going to get the latest updates as soon as Google released them. I also expected to find minor bugs because we are getting updates much faster as well.
What I was not expecting is to both, bugs that make for a nearly unusable device and minor annoying ones. For my device the bugs that hit me hard are;
Max Volume Bluetooth Speaker Bug - Most bluetooth speakers are stuck in max volume mode and can't be turned down. Distorts the audio and creates a situation were you could blow out the speaker. Not all speakers are effected.
No LTE On Boot - Annoying to have but "fixable" by putting the device in Airplane mode. Otherwise no Data or SMS until you do and hope your phone doesn't reboot in you pocket while waiting for an important message.
No Phone Calls - You can't make or receive calls. As a result you can't check VM either. No amount of Airplane mode or rebooting will fix it. Neither will the phone service menu.
My concern here is that Google hasn't patched these bugs yet, even after releasing another update to 6.0.1 M. For now I'm fine with downgrading to 6.0.0M but I'm missing out on updates.
To add to insult any ROM build with the 6.0.1 source is effected by these bugs, so I can't even use most ROMs unless I find an older version.
I guess my main question here is this:
Is this normal? Does Google usually go so long without patching the bugs?
Seems really silly to have a phone, but not be allowed to make or receive calls at all and not be able to send SMS or email unless you do a few tricks first. It's a phone. Don't they test these things?
Disclaimer: I already know not all 6P or Nexus devices are effected. That does add to my confusion as they all should be the same exact device.
EDIT: I also wanted to add that when I got the device I could do all these things however even downgrading will no longer allow phone calls. Something is retaining.

Well that's weird mate. I'm on 6.0.1 and have none of these problems.
I was experiencing awful battery life after the latest update but clearing the cache has made a huge difference

Have you tried reaching out to Google? It would be helpful if you could share how you upgraded to 6.0.1? As mentioned above did you clear cache? The more info you can provide; the faster someone can help you.

The Bluetooth volume issue is the only one I have and only on one of my speakers. The others with fine.

Huh, ya 6.0.1 here too and none of these issues are present.

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HTC working to fix voice calling fault on HTC One M7 and mabye M8

Read more in this link.
HTC plans to issue a fix for an issue preventing some owners of the HTC One M7 handset from placing and receiving calls.
A HTC spokesperson confirmed the problem to TechRadar, with a recent HTC Service Pack downloaded from the Google Play Store the presumed (but unconfirmed) culprit.
The firm says resolving the problem, which could also be affecting One M8 users, is its number one priority and has told customers to expect the roll out in the coming days.
The statement says: “We are aware that some HTC One M7 (and possibly some M8) users have recently been experiencing audio issues making network calls on their devices.
“WiFi calling does not seem to be impacted at this time. We're working around the clock with our technical teams and partners to resolve the issue as a number one priority.
“We will provide further updates as soon as we can. For anyone experiencing this issue with your HTC One (M7 or M8), you may want to try WiFi calling, and we ask that you please contact your local Customer Care: www.htc.com/support."
Speculation suggests the Service Pack may have caused the instability, but HTC isn’t offering up that information at this stage. As the original report points out, if you haven’t downloaded the update yet, it may be wise not to do so.
jkolner said:
Read more in this link.
HTC plans to issue a fix for an issue preventing some owners of the HTC One M7 handset from placing and receiving calls..
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This might explain the issues I have been experiencing since the 5.01 OTA. Call recording has failed with every SW I have tried. Sound quality during calls has crackling and is very poor.
This makes a lot of sense, in the last couple of days mine has had the same problem as was told by HTC that it was a hardware issue, but if this is the case may just hold back and wait for an update.
I've had mine recently producing no audio at either end when answering a call, a reboot seems to sort it out for a while. Hopefully this is all it is and they can sort it out fairly soon, I'm in the middle of buying my first home and trying to talk to lawyers and stuff gets a bit embarrassing when this happens.
Oh my a God.
Thought was mine only!
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I noticed that also, when my wife called me, and said about sound distorsions during the call. The solution in my case was returning to branded T-Mo firmware, and not updating HTC Service Pack from Play Store.
Pavlova said:
I noticed that also, when my wife called me, and said about sound distorsions during the call. The solution in my case was returning to branded T-Mo firmware, and not updating HTC Service Pack from Play Store.
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On M8 Original GPE, HTC service pack was installed with 5.01 OTA update. No choice on whether to install or not - it appeared on the list of updated apps.
Apart from sound issues (which I suspect come from HTC/Google disabling features at the Kernel level), I am now experiencing delayed touch response.
Yes, but as I remeber, it was updated also after initial startup. Last update of the Service Pack (on Sense) in Play Store was from 11th December. Anyway, on T-Mo firmware 3.29.118.9 call quality is much better. Also ringtones and notifications are more clear.
Just got a service pack update.
for me I am running the latest gpe 5.0.1 and my problem is that the upper speaker is not ringing but it plays music just fine
uninstalled all google and htc services and the problem is gone F%[email protected] this
I thought that my phone was damaged spent 2 hours searching
Andrew149 said:
Just got a service pack update.
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Yeah, Christmas graphics for DotView. Nothing fixed otherwise.
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for me I am running the latest gpe 5.0.1 and my problem is that the upper speaker is not ringing but it plays music just fine
uninstalled all google and htc services and the problem is gone F%[email protected] this
I thought that my phone was damaged spent 2 hours searching
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Can you pls give a little more details as to what specifically you uninstalled. Thanks.
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Yeah, Christmas graphics for DotView. Nothing fixed otherwise.
Can you pls give a little more details as to what specifically you uninstalled. Thanks.
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well till now I am not sure that it is software or hardware problem but when I uninstalled google play services to factory settings the problm is gone and when I restart the Device the Problem is back again Will try to downgrade to 4.4.4 gpe to insure that the problem is not software related
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well till now I am not sure that it is software or hardware problem but when I uninstalled google play services to factory settings the problm is gone and when I restart the Device the Problem is back again Will try to downgrade to 4.4.4 gpe to insure that the problem is not software related
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A quick summary of issues:
Google have confirmed memory leak issues with 5.01. An update is supposedly on the way: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lollipop-memory-leak-fixed/
I've fixed Touch Delay by going into recovery and clearing cache.
Sound and playback issues are probably to do with Google disabling certain features in Lollipop, one of which results in an inability to record calls - access for third party apps to intercept caller voice has been disabled. I'd speculate that this hatchet-job has led to most of the sound issues some have encountered on Original M8 GPE's.
A partial explanation can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56397342&postcount=1
Roadrunner100 said:
A quick summary of issues:
Google have confirmed memory leak issues with 5.01. An update is supposedly on the way: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lollipop-memory-leak-fixed/
I've fixed Touch Delay by going into recovery and clearing cache.
Sound and playback issues are probably to do with Google disabling certain features in Lollipop, one of which results in an inability to record calls - access for third party apps to intercept caller voice has been disabled. I'd speculate that this hatchet-job has led to most of the sound issues some have encountered on Original M8 GPE's.
A partial explanation can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56397342&postcount=1
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does this means that my problem [upper speaker doesn't ring but it plays music just fine also the ear piece is working as it should] is due to software issue but I reverted to 4.4.4 and the problem exists the upper speaker doesn't ring but on sense it rings whenever the proximity sensor is not covered [facedown or in pocket it doesn't ring ]
well try to revert now to 4.4.2 1.54.401 firmware and rom and see if the problem persists
on my friend's one m8 and brother''s one mini 2 that proximity sensor covering issue exits but I am not sure what to do and can't decide whether it is software or hardware or even a problem after all I found sony xperia users complain about upper speaker not ringing due to safety precaution
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does this means that my problem [upper speaker doesn't ring but it plays music just fine also the ear piece is working as it should] is due to software issue but I reverted to 4.4.4 and the problem exists the upper speaker doesn't ring but on sense it rings whenever the proximity sensor is not covered [facedown or in pocket it doesn't ring ]
well try to revert now to 4.4.2 1.54.401 firmware and rom and see if the problem persists
on my friend's one m8 and brother''s one mini 2 that proximity sensor covering issue exits but I am not sure what to do and can't decide whether it is software or hardware or even a problem after all I found sony xperia users complain about upper speaker not ringing due to safety precaution
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Like you I'm trying to find out what's going on. I can confirm issues with the proximity sensor. I have further issues like skype not gaining access to camera, voice call issues like loud speaker switching on by itself during a call.. etc. What's clear at the moment is that this GPE release is screwed up big time. Like you I've reset the device a few times, but noting changes. Same problems reappear.
I think that finding out more is difficult since there are no specific Forums or threads dedicated to non converted stock GPE's. So finding out more about issues specific to this version is very hard... I have two other colleagues with Original GPE's (mine is a very early device, their's purchased recently) that have the exact same issues, so I can only assume that this is not HW related, but due to Google disabling certain features and getting it badly wrong or HTC's service Pack at fault. In the office there are three other Sense M8's, which don't have any of these issues, but none of them are on Lollipop yet, so I cannot compare until they get HTC's update.
I have a OEM gpe m8, running mrjaydee82's lollipop gpe ROM. I've seen no weirdness besides memory leak.

Bluetooth audio "stutter" on wake/unlock?

Recently picked up the 6P (still stock on lastest FW) and have only one issue with it.
When I am steaming audio over bluetooth in my car (usually using Play Music), if I wakeup/unlock the device, the audio stutters/lags for a good 5-10 seconds before going back to normal. Once awake, dragging down the notifications menu can cause a similar effect though less pronounced. If I turn the screen back off, it goes back to normal instantly.
I don't have any other BT devices to test this on, but I've not had this issue with any other androids in my car. I also don't see any "lag" issues anywhere else. Before I unlock and root this thing, any ideas on how to fix it on the stock rom, or is a custom rom not likely to fix this either?
Appreciate it.
codeman05 said:
Recently picked up the 6P (still stock on lastest FW) and have only one issue with it.
When I am steaming audio over bluetooth in my car (usually using Play Music), if I wakeup/unlock the device, the audio stutters/lags for a good 5-10 seconds before going back to normal. Once awake, dragging down the notifications menu can cause a similar effect though less pronounced. If I turn the screen back off, it goes back to normal instantly.
I don't have any other BT devices to test this on, but I've not had this issue with any other androids in my car. I also don't see any "lag" issues anywhere else. Before I unlock and root this thing, any ideas on how to fix it on the stock rom, or is a custom rom not likely to fix this either?
Appreciate it.
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It's a problem at the source code. It's says it's been fixed on Developer N preview 3. So when N is released publicly it should be fixed. Or you can join the beta program. I have preview 3 running now and it's pretty solid. I don't use bluetooth audio though, so I can't say if it is indeed fixed. If you do try it be sure to enable OEM unlocking in Android dev settings just to be sure you can save your device should anything happen. Also check the list of supported apps so if any app you rely isn't supported you can decide from there.
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It's a problem at the source code. It's says it's been fixed on Developer N preview 3. So when N is released publicly it should be fixed. Or you can join the beta program. I have preview 3 running now and it's pretty solid. I don't use bluetooth audio though, so I can't say if it is indeed fixed. If you do try it be sure to enable OEM unlocking in Android dev settings just to be sure you can save your device should anything happen. Also check the list of supported apps so if any app you rely isn't supported you can decide from there.
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Gotcha, that's what I was afraid of. Will checkout the N Preview, thanks!
codeman05 said:
Recently picked up the 6P (still stock on lastest FW) and have only one issue with it.
When I am steaming audio over bluetooth in my car (usually using Play Music), if I wakeup/unlock the device, the audio stutters/lags for a good 5-10 seconds before going back to normal. Once awake, dragging down the notifications menu can cause a similar effect though less pronounced. If I turn the screen back off, it goes back to normal instantly.
I don't have any other BT devices to test this on, but I've not had this issue with any other androids in my car. I also don't see any "lag" issues anywhere else. Before I unlock and root this thing, any ideas on how to fix it on the stock rom, or is a custom rom not likely to fix this either?
Appreciate it.
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Hey! I just found this post. I have had the same issue on my 6P since receiving it in November. I was stock until just a few days ago, now just running 6.0.1 and xposed. The issue fixed itself right after I wiped and rooted, but is now back. This is odd because booting my phone into safe mode didn't fix the issue, so I'm thinking it's not caused by a specific app, although I'm yet to try it.
Since you mentioned you don't use other bluetooth devices, this problem ONLY exists for me in my car audio, a 2015 Chevy Cruze.
If you don't mind me asking, what car are you driving?
Shocknoble said:
Hey! I just found this post. I have had the same issue on my 6P since receiving it in November. I was stock until just a few days ago, now just running 6.0.1 and xposed. The issue fixed itself right after I wiped and rooted, but is now back. This is odd because booting my phone into safe mode didn't fix the issue, so I'm thinking it's not caused by a specific app, although I'm yet to try it.
Since you mentioned you don't use other bluetooth devices, this problem ONLY exists for me in my car audio, a 2015 Chevy Cruze.
If you don't mind me asking, what car are you driving?
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I have the exact same problem with my 2015 Chevy Volt nav / stereo system. I never noticed this issue until I updated to the Android N release a few days ago. It always happens when I turn on the screen. I rooted and went back to Android M, but the issue is still there. I'm guessing that's because my phone now has the latest baseband and radios instead of the older ones that did not have this Bluetooth problem. If you guys come up with a fix let me know. I'm thinking of flashing the Android M radios to see if that's the problem since I'm now running a custom Android M based ROM anyway. I tested the phone with my wife's 2016 Mazda CX5 and it has none of this screen on stuttering garbage.
UPDATE: I went ahead rooted, installed Pure Nexus ROM (6.0.1-20160821), installed ElementalX-N6P-1.21 kernel, flashed bootloader-angler-angler-03.54.img and radio-angler-angler-03.61.img from angler-mtc20f-factory-d62de11e.tgz, and after all that the issue is still there! What a complete waste of time. What I'm guessing might be the problem is I switched to Sprint on July 2016. Before that I was on T-Mobile and I never had this screen on stuttering issue. It seems there might be some type of interference here and it's possible it is a hardware design flaw since Google has not been able to fix the issue for quite some time. As of now I've switched to my LG G5 phone which has no Bluetooth issues with my Chevy Volt. If I don't find a fix soon I'll probably sell the Nexus 6P and wait for the newer Nexus devices.
FWIW, I have the same issue with my 2014 Chevy Cruze and my HTC 10. Ran across this thread while hunting down a solution (unsuccessfully, this far).
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FWIW, I have the same issue with my 2014 Chevy Cruze and my HTC 10. Ran across this thread while hunting down a solution (unsuccessfully, this far).
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I figured out that if I uncheck Message Access for my Chevy Volt under my phone's Bluetooth settings, the screen on stuttering is fixed!! Everything works flawlessly with my wife's Mazda CX5 so it must be a Bluetooth compatibility issue. Check it out and see if that resolves your HTC 10 issue with your Chevy. Good luck!
I have found a somewhat reliable fix - PLEASE tell me it works for you all as well.
Hopefully we are all familiar with the problem: A Nexus 6P ( Or whatever is the issue for you) is paired with my 2015 Chevy Cruze that I use to stream audio while commuting. The audio is more or less fine until the screen turns off/I lock the phone. Once I unlock the phone or a notification wakes the screen up, the audio stutters over my car speakers until I turn the screen back off, or 6-8 seconds has passed. This doesn't happen with any other device I own when paired to my car, and my phone doesn't have the same issue when paired with any other bluetooth receiver. I am on a rooted but otherwise stock 6P running 7.0.
I do not use my car for messages, only music/podcasts and phonecalls. I went into the bluetooth settings while driving ( I do not recommend you do this while your car is in motion) and noticed the stuttering was consistent the entire time I had the menu open. This prompted me to assume it must have something to do with the phone making other bluetooth actions while connected to my car, that my car didn't like.
I clicked on the gear for settings next to my car in the bluetooth paired devices list, which pops up the menu that lets you change the name of the device, and what it is used for. My options are: 'Phone Audio', 'Media Audio', 'Contact Sharing', and 'Message Access'. I denied message access to my car the last time it prompted me, but the last two on the list were still checked. I unchecked both of them, reset my phone, and crossed my fingers.
It works. It freaking works. It's not 100% and if I flip the screen on and off over and over again it'll still get a little wonky, but I no longer cringe when I have to unlock my car in the phone.
Will the rest of you give this a shot and let me know if you have similar luck? Best wishes!
Josh
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mhajii210 said:
I figured out that if I uncheck Message Access for my Chevy Volt under my phone's Bluetooth settings, the screen on stuttering is fixed!! Everything works flawlessly with my wife's Mazda CX5 so it must be a Bluetooth compatibility issue. Check it out and see if that resolves your HTC 10 issue with your Chevy. Good luck!
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You're totally right. I discovered this on my own right about the same time you did apparently and I wanted to make sure it lasted before I made a post here. You deserve all the credit, I'm just so happy it's fixed. Now, I am curious if it'll still stutter a bit if you turn your screen on and off really quickly a few times?
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I figured out that if I uncheck Message Access for my Chevy Volt under my phone's Bluetooth settings, the screen on stuttering is fixed!! Everything works flawlessly with my wife's Mazda CX5 so it must be a Bluetooth compatibility issue. Check it out and see if that resolves your HTC 10 issue with your Chevy. Good luck!
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You're totally right. I discovered this on my own right about the same time you did apparently and I wanted to make sure it lasted before I made a post here. You deserve all the credit, I'm just so happy it's fixed. Now, I am curious if it'll still stutter a bit if you turn your screen on and off really quickly a few times?
Seems that GM vehicles are a common denominator too! I have the stuttering with my 6P int my Holden Cruze. Didn't have the issue with my old Nexus 6 and don't have the issue with the 6P when making calls over BT. I haven't listened to as great deal of music from the 6P over BT except in the car so can't really compare there.
It's interesting to read a comment that it was going to be fixed in M preview 3 but even now in Marshmallow release the issue is still there.
Hi, been suffering with a stutter in my Mercedes every 20mins with a 5X on 7.0. Again, seems a common problem with Mercs. I tried EVERYTHING to fix this for months, including full phone wipes and flashes.
I just fixed my issue entirely, not sure if it will work for you guys, but I believe it is an issue with the BT bandwidth that the car is able to cope with. I turned off Phone Book and SMS Message Access services and my issue is gone. I think the phone is maxing the bandwidth with A2DP and as soon as a sync is requested for phone book or message = the problem arises.
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Hi, been suffering with a stutter in my Mercedes every 20mins with a 5X on 7.0. Again, seems a common problem with Mercs. I tried EVERYTHING to fix this for months, including full phone wipes and flashes.
I just fixed my issue entirely, not sure if it will work for you guys, but I believe it is an issue with the BT bandwidth that the car is able to cope with. I turned off Phone Book and SMS Message Access services and my issue is gone. I think the phone is maxing the bandwidth with A2DP and as soon as a sync is requested for phone book or message = the problem arises.
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Interesting. It certainly does feel like a bandwidth issue. I have a Moto360 and has tried turning that off but hadn't thought of turning phone functions off. I don't really want to do that either but will try it to confirm.
I turned off phonebook and SMS but it made no difference to me at all.
I have noticed a Terrible shutter from my device when paired to a portable BT speaker. at times the only fix is to turn the speaker off then back on. it is horrid.

Having strange issues? 6.0.X or 7.0 bring strange bugs? If you haven't already, try..

Flashing the very first 6.0.0 (MDA89D).
In my ventures this last week or so, after dealing with the Battery issue (15-30% power off range) and having my speakerphone mysteriously stop working (It was as if I hit mute to the person on the other end) I have been doing all the research and tinkering I could think of to see if these were indeed hardware or software issues with our 6P.
So in my venture, It may be that 7.1.1 fixed the battery issue for me, as after 3 full rundowns over the past few days, I was able to run down to 3% and then 1% 2 times before shutdown which is immensely better than shutdown anywhere from at best 13% to ~25-30% at worst when you're trying to use your phone through the day.
This was done by running the Mountain app to put a load on the device while I do other things. Once I see it hit 15% I allow it to turn on Battery Saver and watch as it ticks down to 1-0% and goes into Shutdown.
Not sure how truly comprehensive this test is, but so far, it is pretty incredible to have such an improvement over what many of us have been experiencing with our battery life being a cointoss through the day.
I only had 7.1.1 flashed as a fresh image straight from google, TWRP 3.0.2-3 and SuperSU 2.78 SR5 for Root for this test. No Google Account connected or anything else syncing or updated that would touch the battery or run in the background.
Now for my Speakerphone issue. I cannot recall exactly when the issue happened, but since I have been running PN since literally the day I got my Nexus, somewhere in that time, with a lot of dirty flashing from one MM update to the next, messing with Kernels, and overall going quite a while between clean flashes until I finally did one for the move to 7.0, I lost my Speakerphone Mic and only the sound for speakerphone was coming out of the bottom speaker. After testing my Refurb replacement and now my "fixed" original 6P, sound for the speakerphone is supposed to use both Speakers when everything is working normally.
The test for this was easy to do with the Skype Test Call. Just call it and turning on Speakerphone would either work, it records my voice and plays it back, or when it wasn't working, it would just end quickly telling me it doesn't hear anything (and the audio only comes through the bottom speaker).
So TL/DR and plainly, my recommendation if you haven't already done so, and you are having similar interesting and semi baffling issues such as these, try flashing the oldest Image available for our 6P as I did (Directly from google, I just did the Flash-all.bat file as it was included with the minimal ADP terminal on Windows 8.1) and let it do its thing. Once I was in the original MM build, I just skipped my way to my homescreen, downloaded Skype from apkmirror, and logged into that to do the test. Boom! After the test was a success, I downloaded the 7.1.1 image, flash-all.bad'ed that and did the same skip to test.... And Boom! Speakerphone Continues to work normally.
Now to test the battery side by side with both devices to see how bad my old one has degraded if it indeed has done so... or if 7.1.1 has indeed fixed that as well.

Nexus 6 speaker issue POSSIBLE fix

I had retired my Nexus 6 a while ago due to the speaker issue that's been plaguing these devices. I decided not to sell it as it would be an issue for the next user, so I instead kept it in case of an emergency.
Certain issues have lead me to recommission the device, so I decided I'd see what's new. So far it is clear that there was never a fix, and some people swear that pressing on the speakers fixes the problem (whether temporarily or permanently). I never believed this as the only thing that seemed to fix it (temporarily) when touching the speakers is tapping on the speakers, but that seems to be related to the device rotating (which has also been known to let the volume go back up) and something within the gyroscope (something that some have brought up as well). My Nexus 6 unlike many others has the bigger problem where the volume will go down regardless of battery percentage, and it was terrible as there was never an instance in which I could truly use the speakers.
Reading around I have seen other "solutions" emerge, but never anything concrete. On a YouTube video's comment sections I saw one person mention that Franco.Kernel fixes this, for me this did nothing. On another forum I read a guy who said his issue stopped using Lean Kernel, and that it may have something to do with mp_decision. Unfortunately for me, I like to stick to the latest version that was officially released (in this case 7.1.1) and Lean Kernel doesn't seem to have made it that far. I gave up on experimenting for the sake of the speakers at this point and settled on my favorite rom which is Dirty Unicorns, using the final 7.1.1 build (somebody was nice enough to provide links as I could not find it anywhere and their official page only has their Oreo based builds). Obviously the speaker issue persisted here. At this point I wanted to see if there was a Kernel with good features and battery life and came across a thread that mentioned BL4CKB1RD Kernel. I flashed that and was a happy camper as my phone runs cooler (no difference has been made to my 4 hour average screen on time) and ultimately lag free. Reading the maker of the kernel's current set up using the kernel, I decided to copy it a bit by limiting my maximum CPU frequency to 2.5GHz and using said governor profile. I came across the mp_decision setting and turned it on just out of curiosity (I have no clue what it does). Later on, I went to watch a YouTube video and before I could connect my headphones, the video was playing...with perfect sound. I thought I was going crazy, so I let it play for a bit longer. No volume drop. I picked up the phone, moved it around, rotated it, blasted the volume to the max and still not a single drop. For literally an hour I watched videos and absolutely no volume issues. I decided to undo all kernel changes and reboot to see what would happen. Still no volume changes. I also decided to lock the CPU and GPU maximum frequency to produce more heat, still nothing. I played Subway Surfers which was a guaranteed instant volume drop, nothing. Rebooted several times more, let the battery die, speakers are still perfect. Could this kernel have fixed my issue? Maybe. It is also worth noting that before flashing the kernel, I ran a command via terminal emulator (requires root) that I read about BEFORE flashing the custom kernel, and I never rebooted my Nexus 6. The command can be found here (there was another thread that also included it but also linked to this thread):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/devs-only/speaker-amplifiers-nxp-tfa9890-research-t3236518
Anyone with the speaker issue should perhaps start by this command, reboot and see what happens. If not, try using BL4CKB1RD kernel and see what happens? If still nothing, try toggling mp_decision on and then test.
Crossvxm said:
I had retired my Nexus 6 a while ago due to the speaker issue that's been plaguing these devices. I decided not to sell it as it would be an issue for the next user, so I instead kept it in case of an emergency.
Certain issues have lead me to recommission the device, so I decided I'd see what's new. So far it is clear that there was never a fix, and some people swear that pressing on the speakers fixes the problem (whether temporarily or permanently). I never believed this as the only thing that seemed to fix it (temporarily) when touching the speakers is tapping on the speakers, but that seems to be related to the device rotating (which has also been known to let the volume go back up) and something within the gyroscope (something that some have brought up as well). My Nexus 6 unlike many others has the bigger problem where the volume will go down regardless of battery percentage, and it was terrible as there was never an instance in which I could truly use the speakers.
Reading around I have seen other "solutions" emerge, but never anything concrete. On a YouTube video's comment sections I saw one person mention that Franco.Kernel fixes this, for me this did nothing. On another forum I read a guy who said his issue stopped using Lean Kernel, and that it may have something to do with mp_decision. Unfortunately for me, I like to stick to the latest version that was officially released (in this case 7.1.1) and Lean Kernel doesn't seem to have made it that far. I gave up on experimenting for the sake of the speakers at this point and settled on my favorite rom which is Dirty Unicorns, using the final 7.1.1 build (somebody was nice enough to provide links as I could not find it anywhere and their official page only has their Oreo based builds). Obviously the speaker issue persisted here. At this point I wanted to see if there was a Kernel with good features and battery life and came across a thread that mentioned BL4CKB1RD Kernel. I flashed that and was a happy camper as my phone runs cooler (no difference has been made to my 4 hour average screen on time) and ultimately lag free. Reading the maker of the kernel's current set up using the kernel, I decided to copy it a bit by limiting my maximum CPU frequency to 2.5GHz and using said governor profile. I came across the mp_decision setting and turned it on just out of curiosity (I have no clue what it does). Later on, I went to watch a YouTube video and before I could connect my headphones, the video was playing...with perfect sound. I thought I was going crazy, so I let it play for a bit longer. No volume drop. I picked up the phone, moved it around, rotated it, blasted the volume to the max and still not a single drop. For literally an hour I watched videos and absolutely no volume issues. I decided to undo all kernel changes and reboot to see what would happen. Still no volume changes. I also decided to lock the CPU and GPU maximum frequency to produce more heat, still nothing. I played Subway Surfers which was a guaranteed instant volume drop, nothing. Rebooted several times more, let the battery die, speakers are still perfect. Could this kernel have fixed my issue? Maybe. It is also worth noting that before flashing the kernel, I ran a command via terminal emulator (requires root) that I read about BEFORE flashing the custom kernel, and I never rebooted my Nexus 6. The command can be found here (there was another thread that also included it but also linked to this thread):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/devs-only/speaker-amplifiers-nxp-tfa9890-research-t3236518
Anyone with the speaker issue should perhaps start by this command, reboot and see what happens. If not, try using BL4CKB1RD kernel and see what happens? If still nothing, try toggling mp_decision on and then test.
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I just ordered a nexus 6, is this issue common? Does it affect stock rom or custom roms? I have a Moto X Pure at the moment, Nexus 6's brother, it has a similar issue where the sound cuts out when the phone is switched from portrait to landscape and vice versa but only affects custom roms. Its doesnt lower the volume though
DerrickTight said:
I just ordered a nexus 6, is this issue common? Does it affect stock rom or custom roms? I have a Moto X Pure at the moment, Nexus 6's brother, it has a similar issue where the sound cuts out when the phone is switched from portrait to landscape and vice versa but only affects custom roms. Its doesnt lower the volume though
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Yes it is common and does effect custom ROMs as well
DerrickTight said:
I just ordered a nexus 6, is this issue common? Does it affect stock rom or custom roms? I have a Moto X Pure at the moment, Nexus 6's brother, it has a similar issue where the sound cuts out when the phone is switched from portrait to landscape and vice versa but only affects custom roms. Its doesnt lower the volume though
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For most the issue occurs at low battery, and the drop isn't major. I've seen some videos of people with this specific problem and I laugh because they don't know have it as bad as us with the major drops regardless of battery life. So pretty much the low battery volume issue is more common than the worse one, and you could say it is a common issue.
We had a white one that had absolutely no issues except a faster battery drain (perhaps because the speakers worked?!).
Crossvxm said:
For most the issue occurs at low battery, and the drop isn't major. I've seen some videos of people with this specific problem and I laugh because they don't know have it as bad as us with the major drops regardless of battery life. So pretty much the low battery volume issue is more common than the worse one, and you could say it is a common issue.
We had a white one that had absolutely no issues except a faster battery drain (perhaps because the speakers worked?!).
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If you're using any of the oreo roms, try my kernel (popcorn kernel in the development section) and have a look at my post here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76858120&postcount=29
athulele said:
If you're using any of the oreo roms, try my kernel (popcorn kernel in the development section) and have a look at my post here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76858120&postcount=29
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My Nexus 6 arrives tomorrow and I'll be flashing it right away. If I have a volume issue I'll definitely keep your kernel in mind. Thank you
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If you're using any of the oreo roms, try my kernel (popcorn kernel in the development section) and have a look at my post here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76858120&postcount=29
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Dumb question does your kernel already have these included?
xconwayx said:
Dumb question does your kernel already have these included?
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Yes.
For what it is worth, mp-decision is Qualcomm's own hotplug: it turns the processor cores on and off depending on need. I guess it may use other tricks as well, to optimize power / performance.
No obvious reason that it should affect the speakers, but you never know.
Does this thread address the issue with SEVERAL 8.1 ROMs I've used, in which the speaker phone does not function during calls... and during calls alone. I can play media just fine... IMMEDIATELY after the speaker not working on the calls. I CAN however plug a headset in and communicate normally . Just desperately seeking an answer or I guess I'll go back to 7.1.2
So now nexus 6 is running pie roms nearly perfect . Unfortunately this sound problem persists… it is truely fristrating
So is there any kernel that can fix it in pie roms? Thanks
I have been using my nexus 6 for a couple of years now and had the speaker issue about a year ago and went into recovery and wiped cashe and the. Did a factory reset. Did an OTA update and everything was fixed.
Last weekend I finally flashed TWRP and then rooted with Magisk. Went to install myself5's Bata version of Carbon room running pie... Not sure what happened but had error code 7 and bricked the phone. Had to wipe it out and went though Google to get an old OTA and reflashed and thankfully got my phone back. Tried the process 3 other times and got the same result. Each time no speaker issue.
The last time I tried it I left it alone and didn't even put TWRP on it but now the speaker problem comes and goes.
5 min agot I was playing YouTube music with no issues, made a phone call, then back to YouTube and now the bottom speaker quit and the top speaker is very quiet.
Any ideas on what could have cause my issues and can someone direct me to where Ii can find more information or what I'm doing wrong on on flashing new roms?
Currently running Android 7.1.1 build NGI77B
Suffeln said:
I have been using my nexus 6 for a couple of years now and had the speaker issue about a year ago and went into recovery and wiped cashe and the. Did a factory reset. Did an OTA update and everything was fixed.
Last weekend I finally flashed TWRP and then rooted with Magisk. Went to install myself5's Bata version of Carbon room running pie... Not sure what happened but had error code 7 and bricked the phone. Had to wipe it out and went though Google to get an old OTA and reflashed and thankfully got my phone back. Tried the process 3 other times and got the same result. Each time no speaker issue.
The last time I tried it I left it alone and didn't even put TWRP on it but now the speaker problem comes and goes.
5 min agot I was playing YouTube music with no issues, made a phone call, then back to YouTube and now the bottom speaker quit and the top speaker is very quiet.
Any ideas on what could have cause my issues and can someone direct me to where Ii can find more information or what I'm doing wrong on on flashing new roms?
Currently running Android 7.1.1 build NGI77B
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I've honestly encountered this problem a couple times but rebooting/flashing fixed the problems. Worst case scenario go back latest Google ROM with WUG's software, then you can install TWRP, then a custom ROM like Nitrogen ROM.
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I know nothing about what anyone is saying, but I would like to add that using Viper4Android, and using "eXtra loud" at "Moderate" with the max gain at 4x and the max output at 0db completely gets rid of the low volume problem. Viper works system wide so it fixes it for Netflix, etc
Hope this helps guys
athulele said:
If you're using any of the oreo roms, try my kernel (popcorn kernel in the development section) and have a look at my post here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76858120&postcount=29
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Sorry for the late reply, I had to put the Nexus 6 on hold due to another issue with it. I tried your kernel with the latest official version of Dirty Unicorns, but unfortunately it does not boot. It will boot fine without flashing the kernel.
mahir555 said:
So now nexus 6 is running pie roms nearly perfect . Unfortunately this sound problem persists… it is truely fristrating
So is there any kernel that can fix it in pie roms? Thanks
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Having this same issue using the NitrogenOS Pie rom. Updated from 7.1.1 (didn't have this issue with 7.1.1).
Is it better with the Oreo 8.1?
centerpide said:
Having this same issue using the NitrogenOS Pie rom. Updated from 7.1.1 (didn't have this issue with 7.1.1).
Is it better with the Oreo 8.1?
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No . I can confirm that all oreo roms got the same bug .
For me am using android x unofficial pie rom with popcorn kernel. This combination seems to fix this bug !
Try them or even try the kernel with nitrogen os rom .It may work..
El Gunslinger said:
Does this thread address the issue with SEVERAL 8.1 ROMs I've used, in which the speaker phone does not function during calls... and during calls alone. I can play media just fine... IMMEDIATELY after the speaker not working on the calls. I CAN however plug a headset in and communicate normally . Just desperately seeking an answer or I guess I'll go back to 7.1.2
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Unfortunately no. Mine WAS working perfectly. The charge port broke after about two weeks after I made this thread (my luck), and after having it repaired, the problem seems to have gotten worse. For one, it no longer works in the configuration I mentioned in this thread (mind you, I did not reset it or anything). It also now varies from rom to rom, with the bigger issue now being that the top speaker ceases to function on certain roms, including the way I had it. Now, it drops volume for everything, and most of the time the top speaker will be weaker for the slight moments both decide to work.
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Hi Crossvxm. I have had a Nexus 6 for two years. When I wiped it to sell it, the audio problem started. I had PureNexus.
I did what you suggested. I turned on mpdecision with BlackBird kernel and kernel auditor. I installed su terminal, to execute these commands with root access:
echo 1 > /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/tfa9890/8-0034/force_calib
echo 1 > /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/tfa9890/8-0035/force_calib
And the full volume audio came back! Videos, youtube, all working again! But, the audio in calls worked no more. So, after that, I wiped all, installed PureNexus 7.1, Nitrogen 8.1, stock 7.1... I tried everything, but the audio in calls never returned. When I reinstalled all these roms, the low volume problem appeared again, but the audio in calls never came back. Even WhatsApp calls have no audio. The microphone still works, because the other person indeed can hear you.
Do you have an idea about how can I solve it? At least to leave it usable as phone. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and time.
Butifarra said:
Hi Crossvxm. I have had a Nexus 6 for two years. When I wiped it to sell it, the audio problem started. I had PureNexus.
I did what you suggested. I turned on mpdecision with BlackBird kernel and kernel auditor. I installed su terminal, to execute these commands with root access:
echo 1 > /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/tfa9890/8-0034/force_calib
echo 1 > /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/tfa9890/8-0035/force_calib
And the full volume audio came back! Videos, youtube, all working again! But, the audio in calls worked no more. So, after that, I wiped all, installed PureNexus 7.1, Nitrogen 8.1, stock 7.1... I tried everything, but the audio in calls never returned. When I reinstalled all these roms, the low volume problem appeared again, but the audio in calls never came back. Even WhatsApp calls have no audio. The microphone still works, because the other person indeed can hear you.
Do you have an idea about how can I solve it? At least to leave it usable as phone. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and time.
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This sounds like what happened to me recently. The configuration I mentioned in the very first post worked perfectly. After taking it to have the charge port fixed, the top speaker stopped working, and you could not hear the top speaker at all during calls. I thought the store broke it, but after giving up using it for some time, I realized that it would randomly try to output sound from the top speaker. After starting all over (flashing back to stock and flashing my same configuration again), the problem changed to where the top speaker was very low in sound when both speakers felt like working. I flashed the latest Dirty Unicorns based on 8.1 along with Popcorn Kernel by athulele but unfortunately it did not boot (as mentioned in his thread, the kernel is Lineage based).
I gave up on the Nexus for a few more days. When I decided to give it another go, I flashed the latest LineageOS (along with root for it via their own separate flashable zip), flashed Popcorn Kernel, installed Kernel Adiutor from Google Play (yes, it's spelled that way), installed the Terminal Emulator for Android and ran the command as well as checking the kernel settings to ensure MP Decision was on, capping the max frequency to 2.4Ghz (feels much less hot) and making sure everything was set to "set on boot". Unfortunately it did not work. The only way I got it to work again was to give up again, flash back to stock and flash Lineage and Popcorn Kernel exactly as I explained in this second paragraph.
So why did it work this time around? Everything was done the same, what could possibly make it work? I have a theory. When it was taken to the shop for repair, the battery died since it was already at 20%. As you can see I mentioned a few times "I gave up" on it, meaning I stopped bothering to fix it, and eventually it would run out of battery mainly from wifi and notifications. Every time it was dead, it was usually dead for at least 24 hours. Each time around, the issue would change. I don't know what it has to do with anything, but I do believe it plays a key role. Try letting your battery die, charge it back up to 100% and then try the process from either paragraph two or from my original post. After it began working again, I abused the heck out of the speakers, rebooted the phone, tried calls, etc. all without letting the battery die and it has not stopped working. I recently sold it as is and was contacted by the person who purchased it who was confused as he did not experience any sound drops either. He was originally buying it to replace the screen on his but decided to stick with mine since it was working perfectly so far.

External Speaker useless after 8.1 OTA update (impossibly quiet)

Not, rooted, located in US.
Before I did the OTA update to 8.1 last night, my external speaker worked fine, both for speakerphone calls, and media playback.
During my first use of 8.1 today, the external speaker is now so quiet (on full volume) that it's useless in all but the quietest rooms.
Calls on speakerphone are barely louder than if I just shut the speaker off. Watching Youtube on full blast is barely discernible in an average noise environment, and forget listening to music outside or in the car.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Same problem here
It's a official software bug. Most of the people who updated Oreo got this issue. If you want to use your phone use any other custom ROM available here. Otherwise need to downgrade to Nougat. If you can wait for another update from Moto to rectify this bug means bare with this volume issue untill Moto releases new update to fix this.
kingmari said:
It's a official software bug. Most of the people who updated Oreo got this issue. If you want to use your phone use any other custom ROM available here. Otherwise need to downgrade to Nougat. If you can wait for another update from Moto to rectify this bug means bare with this volume issue untill Moto releases new update to fix this.
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Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I doubt Moto will ever release a fix for this.
I never bothered rooting this phone, I guess I am going to find out if its even possible, now that it has Oreo on it.
slimbobaggins said:
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I doubt Moto will ever release a fix for this.
I never bothered rooting this phone, I guess I am going to find out if its even possible, now that it has Oreo on it.
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Rooting stock Oreo is even easier compared to Nougat, because you don't need a custom kernel anymore. Still I would advise to use the new Loony Kernel or ElementalX for being able to use different RGB values if your device has screen retention problems.
Other observations from this OS "upgrade:"
My phone now struggles to stream Youtube to Chromecast... video/sound sometimes is choppy... previously no issues at all.
Sometimes the phone randomly decides Wifi wont work. Can flip the switch to the on position, but it still says "Wifi is off." Only recourse is to restart the phone.
Overall very disappointed. Can't wait until I get a chance to root and ditch this OTA update.

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