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Is there any reason not to root my new 6p?

Like the title says, is there any reason not to root my new 6p?
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Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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funnel71 said:
Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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Android Pay works with system-less root.
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That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.

jpeg42 said:
I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.
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I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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funnel71 said:
I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
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Some apps *cought* Snapchat *cough* don't work even with the root hiding xposed module. For some reason, I could still use snapchat even with root, but no xposed. On my Note 4, I couldn't use snapchat unless the thing is completely stock.

funnel71 said:
That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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Once you've installed system-less root you have to remove xbin_bin folder in /su/bin if you forgot to do it when installing system-less. You also have to change the permissions of the /su/bin folder to 0751 from 0755. You can change the permissions through terminal on the phone, or with adb on the computer; you can also change the permissions with a file manager such as Root Explorer. I suggest you reboot the phone just as a precaution after making the changes.
Once you've done that you can check with one of the SafetyNet checking apps from the Play Store.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.
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Xposed automatically breaks AP...no way around that.

The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.

NCguy said:
The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.
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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...

slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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This. Plus updating via fastboot really isnt very difficult at all. A little time consuming but that's it.

slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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The OP said root not ROM.

NCguy said:
The OP said root not ROM.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that if you don't like to root because it's more difficult to get updates, you may want to try a custom ROM, then you can have the benefits of root and easy updates.
Of course you'll still have the same cat and mouse game with Google in regards to Android Pay, so if you find yourself shopping without your wallet allot, you might just wanna forget the whole thing...

After using the S7 Edge for 1 week with / and Xposed. Stock TW has to go

Got my S7 Edge SM-935W8 Installed TWRP, CF Auto root and xposed. Before i did that i used the stock phone for a day. FASTEST PHONE IVE EVER USED. NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS PHONE OUT OF THE BOX. THIS IS NOT A POsT TO BASH THE S7 EDGE
Off the go xposed did not work well. Bootlooped every other restart and added a lot of time to startup.
Modules I installed:
Boot Manager
BubnleUpNp
Clean Lockscreen
Custom Share
Dynamic AlarmIcon 2
Flatstyke bar indicator
Flatstylekeyboard
Gravitybox
Greenify
Luckypatcher
RootCloak
Smooth system progress bar
XGPM
Xinstaller
Xprivacy
Xprivacy in app info
Xtouchwhiz

Was it easy to root?what method did you follow please?only rooted once and was nexus 6p never rooted another?cheers

So does that mean you are going to flash back the stock ROM. I'm undecided on whether to root or not. I've been jailbreaking since the first iPhone, and the S7 edge is my first ever android device. I must say I can do almost everything I used to on jailbreak but with a lot less effort.
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I have the same config, except I obtained root with TWRP + SuperSU.
Runs better than Stock, and No Reboots.
Are you sure you got the correct Xposed version ? (Arm64, SDK 23)
Out of the box, First thing I did was Power up in bootloader, Flashed TWRP. Root is a must for me.

A little confused as to the OP? What exactly are you stating or trying to convey?

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A little confused as to the OP? What exactly are you stating or trying to convey?
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Me too, can't work out if he is saying it was better before or after root and exposed??

After i install Xposed framework, as jazonX states (Arm64, SDK 23) , my phone won't boot anymore and i am forced to
reinstall stock image. what am i doing wrong ?
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dsbarry said:
After i install Xposed framework, as jazonX states (Arm64, SDK 23) , my phone won't boot anymore and i am forced to
reinstall stock image. what am i doing wrong ?
Thanks!
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Use Xposed from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
This is specifically made for TW devices, because Samsung makes modifications to ART and other things that break the normal Xposed. I installed it on my S7e and it works like a charm

ssrij said:
Use Xposed from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
This is specifically made for TW devices, because Samsung makes modifications to ART and other things that break the normal Xposed. I installed it on my S7e and it works like a charm
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you sir, are a lifesaver!
thank you so much!

Sorry half the post was removed....
Anyways I wrote this because if you go far enough to trip Knox you aren't going to want to run stock TW. With the features this phone has I can't see myself running cm or a AOSP distro if I lose out on the hardware's capabilities. For a thousand dollar phone the price tag doesn't meet the performancs running stock with root and xposed.
I used wanams custom Xposed v80 x64. The TWRP exynos version and Cf-root. This version of Touchwhiz is 8gb. There is ALOT of RAM usage on the device stock. With Xposed framework on top the device is lagging behind what it should be.
I'm dying to get a custom TW running because this device is a beast but there is to much on top of the essentials that are holding back the s7.
If you are thinking of going the mod route you should not use stock. When the time comes flash a custom TW.

JazonX said:
I have the same config, except I obtained root with TWRP + SuperSU.
Runs better than Stock, and No Reboots.
Are you sure you got the correct Xposed version ? (Arm64, SDK 23)
Out of the box, First thing I did was Power up in bootloader, Flashed TWRP. Root is a must for me.
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did your 0x0 became 0x1 after rooting?

mindstorms54 said:
did your 0x0 became 0x1 after rooting?
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Ofcourse its gonna trip knox

mindstorms54 said:
did your 0x0 became 0x1 after rooting?
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Yeah, 0x1 now.
Wasn't a big deal for me, as this is probably the sixth phone I had with Fort Knox.

I wanna start playing with this thing but Sam mobile doesn't have our firmware up yet.
Any other firmware I can use to reflash stock if I run into trouble playing with this thing?
I'm also on the w8 variant and like to have everything on my laptop before I make the leap
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jlomoro said:
I wanna start playing with this thing but Sam mobile doesn't have our firmware up yet.
Any other firmware I can use to reflash stock if I run into trouble playing with this thing?
I'm also on the w8 variant and like to have everything on my laptop before I make the leap
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You shouldn't need another. With Odin you can flash the recovery again if it fails but after you have a recovery you can just factory reset it and it well go back to default. Go to the TWRP EXYNOS thread and follow his steps. Its a smooth process

Thanks for the reply Benny, that won't work if I want to experiment with the custom rom available tho will it.
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jlomoro said:
Thanks for the reply Benny, that won't work if I want to experiment with the custom rom available tho will it.
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Download Nandroid manager and online Android backup. Your gonna have to get TWRP and root
Make a backup and save it to your SD card. Copy it somewhere safe, and make sure you can flash it if anything goes wrong.
Or you can hold off and wait for Sam's mobile. In due time it will have a stock image for your provider

Hi Benny, it's awesome you got it all working. I have same model of the S7 Edge. I am rooted, however I didn't install TWRP yet, because I was confused about the instructions in the "exynos twrp" thread.
Did you glad the "dm-verity- disabler "? I'm not sure what that does, but it was part of the instructions. Also did you do a factory reset when flashing twrp? Because my phone is all setup up now, I don't want to do a factory reset to get twrp.
Please advise

before i root i need to make sure sammy can resolve all 6.0.1 issues, mainly crappy 3d gaming performance. happens on ALL 6.0.1 devices, on Note 5 running angry birds 2 for 5 minutes results in awful lag and stuttering same with s7e, however 5.1.1 Note 5 runs it perfect!!!
i mainly play ppsspp emulator and angry birds 2, and this stupid bug must be resolved!

MUTAN3F said:
Hi Benny, it's awesome you got it all working. I have same model of the S7 Edge. I am rooted, however I didn't install TWRP yet, because I was confused about the instructions in the "exynos twrp" thread.
Did you glad the "dm-verity- disabler "? I'm not sure what that does, but it was part of the instructions. Also did you do a factory reset when flashing twrp? Because my phone is all setup up now, I don't want to do a factory reset to get twrp.
Please advise
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That file removes the encryption on internal storage. It's required if you wish to have TWRP have read write access to the internal storage. Wichita is required if you plan on using custom rom in the future.
I'm thinking what you could do (which is what I'm gonna do) is flash the auto root method. Then do a full backup with titanium to sd card. Then install TWRP and do full wipe and no diversity script and TWRP root method.
Then reload my titanium backup.
Think this will best of both worlds as I'll have read write access and won't lose all my data.
Can anybody confirm or correct me on my thinking here?
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Any interest in an unrooted insanely debloated ROM?

The ENG kernel used for root is great in a sense that it has aided in giving us root access, but it is nowhere near as refined as the factory kernel. @psouza4 has done a TON to make this kernel awesome, but there are a lot of people who have reverted back to stock because of the limitations.
I'm considering making an insanely debloated ROM that will hopefully run on the factory PE1 kernel. Root access would be needed to do the initial install with FlashFire, but afterwards there would be no root access. This might be what a few of you guys are looking for, a blazing fast ROM that runs forever on a charge, without getting hot. Once the ROM is flashed, there will be NO ability to modify unless the ENG kernel is flashed and rooted again. This ROM would NOT be for anyone interested in running Xposed framework in anyway.
If there is enough interest, I'll start working on something FAST!

Definitely interested in this

Extremely interested.

Could you throw in a modified hosts file for ad blocking? Or, should I mod it first then unroot? Also, would bypassing the checks for tethering be an option before going back to original kernel?

Illogi.xbone said:
Could you throw in a modified hosts file for ad blocking? Or, should I mod it first then unroot? Also, would bypassing the checks for tethering be an option before going back to original kernel?
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I'm hoping to include some mods like this. I believe I'll be able to modify the host file, but you would not be able to update the hosts once the ROM is installed.

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I'm hoping to include some mods like this. I believe I'll be able to modify the host file, but you would not be able to update the hosts once the ROM is installed.
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Great! I was thinking of trying something along this route. I will make a flashfire backup of internal first then could give it a go.

I'll keep you posted when I have something worthy of flashing.

Wont future updates just re-bloat the rom?

CVertigo1 said:
I'll keep you posted when I have something worthy of flashing.
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Thank you! Mostly root for adaway anyways lol

freak69ize said:
Wont future updates just re-bloat the rom?
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The ROM would prevent future updates, so all updates would be done via re-root and flash.

CVertigo1 said:
The ROM would prevent future updates, so all updates would be done via re-root and flash.
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Yeah.. very interested then... as long as you keep theme store in it

Awesome
This is exactly what I was looking for! I'd be eternally grateful if you did it.

I would love to see something like this!

My question is, since I can always at least disable bloat, can I make some changes (provisioning for tethering, modified hosts file) then unroot and reflash stock kernel?

The only reason I wanted root is for viper4android/audio mods. Would an unrooted rom be able to include that?
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fronc01 said:
The only reason I wanted root is for viper4android/audio mods. Would an unrooted rom be able to include that?
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That's an interesting question. Some optimizations like that could be added. But that app wouldn't work since it requires root privileges.
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This will be great. An insanely debloated stock VZR 935U ROM with non-provisioned tethering, HD calling, and VVM is all that that's needed to make this the ultimate phone. Everything else that's need for full VZW functionality can be installed from the Play Store.
However, how would you go back to the stock kernel after installing this ROM? Just by flashing the stock AP in Odin?

I'd be stoked if this phone had stock mm status bar icons that's the only thing I've honestly really used root for and it still doesn't say LTE but instead the ugly 4G icon.. I'd even be alright with Verizons icon if it wasn't persistent on WiFi but then they're still ics looking signal bars. My s7 runs rather warm and battery drain rather sucks with the eng. Kernel starting to think it's not quite worth being able to themeish my status bar. I'd be interested in a debloated stock rom with HD calling if you can throw in the status bar that's icing on the cake.

Sorry for not checking the thread lately. I'm still trying to figure out how to make this work. I have some ideas, but nothing concrete yet.

This isn't going to work. DM-Verity checks will cause the phone not to boot once the original kernel is flashed back. If there is even a byte changed in the system partition it will make the hash invalid and cause the DM-Verity check to fail. The only debloating you can possibly do is simply disabling packages. (In the event of not wanting the Engineering kernel/root.)

Nexus 6P Android Pay and MODs

Hi all, I recently bought this device and am in love with it.
I really want to get into rooting and customize the heck out of it but I also really love Android Pay. I've heard of the Magisk way to root, but I was wondering how much of an effect it would have on the mods I'd want to try out.
For example, I want to somehow get DT2W working on this device, but obviously that requires root and maybe a custom recovery.
My question is, if I use Magisk will that somehow mess with my DT2W mod (or any of my other mods for that matter) when I try to use Android Pay?
TIA!

Okaham said:
Hi all, I recently bought this device and am in love with it.
I really want to get into rooting and customize the heck out of it but I also really love Android Pay. I've heard of the Magisk way to root, but I was wondering how much of an effect it would have on the mods I'd want to try out.
For example, I want to somehow get DT2W working on this device, but obviously that requires root and maybe a custom recovery.
My question is, if I use Magisk will that somehow mess with my DT2W mod (or any of my other mods for that matter) when I try to use Android Pay?
TIA!
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Magisk is literally the flock of a switch so it should matter much about going from root to unroot. Just keep rooted and then when pay is needed, flock the switch in magisk. You can even program an NFC tag to do it for you using Tasker or other program.
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Jammol said:
Magisk is literally the flock of a switch so it should matter much about going from root to unroot. Just keep rooted and then when pay is needed, flock the switch in magisk. You can even program an NFC tag to do it for you using Tasker or other program.
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Awesome thanks! But if I installed a custom kernel, would that be able to pass through Google's SafetyNet checks?

Okaham said:
Awesome thanks! But if I installed a custom kernel, would that be able to pass through Google's SafetyNet checks?
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Works for me with the ElementalX kernel. Obviously YMMV but it seems like it should work.

smartgid said:
Works for me with the ElementalX kernel. Obviously YMMV but it seems like it should work.
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Thanks! So this is probably a very basic question but does this mean that SafetyNet will not be tripped if I have an unlocked boot loader?

Do you have a MasterCard? If so see if you can just use Master Pass. Im Rooted with Xposed and it works on there.

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Do you have a MasterCard? If so see if you can just use Master Pass. Im Rooted with Xposed and it works on there.
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Just checked out master pass. Unfortunately it only supports a few banks and none of the major ones.
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Okaham said:
Thanks! So this is probably a very basic question but does this mean that SafetyNet will not be tripped if I have an unlocked boot loader?
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It shouldn't as long as you turn off root using Magisk before using Android Pay. I've opened Android Pay a couple times by accident while root enabled and it would automatically delete my credit card.

Brand new Mate 9 not even switched on...what tips/things to do first and then rooting

Just purchased a brand new Mate 9 from Best Buy in the USA. First Huawei device.
Held the Mate 9, Galaxy 8 and Galaxy 8+ in my hands and didn't like the feel of the Galaxy 8 handsets.
Before I even switch it on, I wanted to ask the regulars here what they suggest are the first things to do beforehand as I want to root it and install TWRP and Magisk.
After reading in the Mate 9 forum there are different posts about rooting, patching and other things (e.g. people bricking their device) in regards to tweaking this device, so I wanted to know for sure what the correct procedure is to root, install TWRP and Magisk.
I have watched the two videos shown here for tips so anything else that is helpful would be appreciated.

I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Governa said:
I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Gotta agree with this. I've had mine for almost two months and it's so good I've never felt the need to root. But I'd say do lots of reading around first and get a feel for the stock is in the mean time.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I don't want to set up the phone and then find I have to do a factory-reset when I can get it all done in one go.
I really hate all the ads (using AdAway on current Nexus 6) and like the ability to restrict apps usage e.g. stop location or mobile identification, so use LBE, thus the reason wanting to root and install TWRP. Having image backups has been amazingly helpful over the years.
and now that Magisk is doing an amazing job, I can have all the rooted tweaks and still have Android Pay working.

Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no

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Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no
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Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.

IconBoy said:
Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.
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No.
I told that if you want to customize system (Some functions in TB and Adaway do it), so you must have root and additionally turn dm-verity off.
Just root = simple functional.
P.s. One of Adaway can work without root

I have an ad blocker and I'm not rooted.
Search xda for netpatch firewall. Working for me here.
Only ads it doesn't block for me is YouTube but I can live with that

Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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I don't think Magisk works on the Mate 9.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/install-magisk-huawei-mate-9-t3540310

With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.

IconBoy said:
With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.
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Systemless root works fine but you have to flash the stock recovery each time you want to OTA.
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Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).

IconBoy said:
Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).
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Yeah, if you root you won't be able to use Android Pay or anything that calls SafetyNet. Actually, it won't work either if you unlock bootloader.

I'll chime in here too
I've rooted and modded every phone I have had in my life, (more than 20 years) and this is the first phone I have had NO DESIRE at all to root..
Like the others here have said, this phone is fantastic stock, and I cant see ever wanting to root it

Another one to add. This is the first android phone i have no desire to root. Love it as it is. Really great.

are we all getting old that's why we don't wanna root anymore for cheats/sixaxis, etc...? this is also my first android phone (mate 9 pro) that i didn't root.

well, yeah, we are all getting old, but I dont think thats why we dont want to root this thing; I think that it already does most of the things as stock that we usually root a phone to get..
Mate 9 pro here too, and its truly an awesum phone...too bad its not "officially" sold in the USA, as it would be super popular..

Tuffcheez said:
Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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Same here and Happy....
+ root M9 is really challenging depending on your firmware