Systemless -> Traditional Root - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey,
I'm trying to make Secure Settings work but I think the app is not compatible with systemless root (if this is not true, tell me please). I went with systemless root at first because it was the latest and what everyone was talking about but, tbf, Android Pay is not even available where I live so I see no point on staying with systemless.
I'm on Cataclysm and ElementalX. What's the best way to go from systemless root to system root?
Thanks

Sorry for reviving an old post - but same here. I flashed the latest SuperSU zip without knowing it was systemless.
I believe you can unroot usign SuperSU and then flash an earlier version of the SuperSU zip that works with Marshmallow.

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Moto X Pure and Magisk Support

I have installed Magisk on my XT1575, for those who dont know, its a method in which Xposed can be installed systemless, with the benefit of taking OTA's. And as a bonus, things like android pay work (with a on-the-fly toggle) to turn off root check, snapchat works, etc.
Pre-requisites (MARSHMALLOW)
1. Stock rom (this is mandated by the developer @topjohnwu ) preferably stock kernel, but i am using frankenclark
1A. TWRP (Download Link Here) https://dl.twrp.me/clark/twrp-3.0.2-0-clark.img.html
2. Magisk manager zip (Download Link Here) http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=19632&task=get
3. Custom superuser PHH-Superuser (Download link here) http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=19633&task=get
4. Custom Xposed (Download Link Here) http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3832615&d=1470276932
5. Custom Superuser app from the playstore (Download Link Here) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.phh.superuser
6. Custom Xposed Installer (Download Link Here) http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=19668&task=get
Steps:
1. Start with clean stock marshmallow 18-4 (i used the firmware flash and did it that way)
2. Install TWRP (1A)
3. Boot into TWRP recovery (do not select system writable. leave it stock, this ensures the chances of OTA support, unless you dont care, then set it writable)
4. Flash frankenkernel, if you want, if not continue on
5. Flash MAGISK (2)
6. FLASH custom superuser (3)
7. Flash Xposed framework (4)
8. reboot into marshamallow
9. Before opening MAGISK, install the custom superuser app from the playstore (5)
10. Install the custom XPOSED installer (6)
11. You should now see that xposed 86.3 is active
12. Profit, make sure to check MAGISK and see if the toggle between rooted and unrooted works, but it should.
MAGISK thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
Links #3 and #4 are dead.
Do I need PHH-Superuser or can I use SuperSU? It looks like I only need PHH-Superuser if I want to use android Pay.
betarepeating said:
Links #3 and #4 are dead.
Do I need PHH-Superuser or can I use SuperSU? It looks like I only need PHH-Superuser if I want to use android Pay.
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Correct, if your not interested in the whole android pay thing. Its because i havent updated to the version 2 links yet
aer0zer0 said:
Correct, if your not interested in the whole android pay thing. Its because i havent updated to the version 2 links yet
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What are you running for a stock, rooted systemless supersu ROM that passes safety net?
SR3TLAW said:
What are you running for a stock, rooted systemless supersu ROM that passes safety net?
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whelp, the whole reason i had a xpure was because my 10 was getting uh oh'd for a broken display, and that took 2 weeks. When i wrote the post, magisk and phh was rollin in the regards that android pay (safetynet) had been beat, so i wrote a writeup on how to do it. Now safetynet has been upgraded to the point where magisk is beat, afaik.
Magisk screwed with my banking app, and i didnt use it for anything else, so i stuck with systemless supersu & xposed instead, no magisk on my 10.
Honestly, im not sure why people want android pay, all the places i used it, charged me extra for using, like a 1.50 pepsi cost 2.10 out of our vending machines at work.
Couldn't agree more. For the systemless root - all you did was install SuperSU from play store and run that command in twrp?
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Titanium backup will not gain root access. Can someone help?
dkeepitabuck said:
Titanium backup will not gain root access. Can someone help?
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Is your phone rooted?
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Cdub1976 said:
Is your phone rooted?
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I fixed it but I need help getting secure settings to work. I did something to get it working earlier but it caused TB to break.
I am running TruPureXMM ROM, can i still flash phh's superuser even though i already have SuperSU systemless root that came with the ROM?
SnowBlacks said:
I am running TruPureXMM ROM, can i still flash phh's superuser even though i already have SuperSU systemless root that came with the ROM?
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No, Magisk is only designed for stock, unrooted roms. It doesn't get around SafetyNet anymore anyway, Android Pay, Pokémon Go, and most financial apps won't work anyway.
acejavelin said:
No, Magisk is only designed for stock, unrooted roms. It doesn't get around SafetyNet anymore anyway, Android Pay, Pok�©mon Go, and most financial apps won't work anyway.
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Yeah, i wanna use suHide but i need magisk first. Can i just unroot and then flash phh superuser?
SnowBlacks said:
Yeah, i wanna use suHide but i need magisk first. Can i just unroot and then flash phh superuser?
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Nandroid and try a full unroot and reboot... It might work since it's largely stock, but it doesn't work in most custom roms

Help fixing root and installing Magisk (Nexus 6P)

Hello ^^
I am hoping that some of you guys can help me out of a little issue that i am having, i will try and explain what has happened up until now as best i can:
As many people know, the latest update to Pokemon GO, knocks out rooted users. I did not know this and updated last night, however, dispite running a custom ROM (PureNexus) and being rooted, my game loaded up like normal and let me play. It wasn't until i checked that my SuperSU that i found that root wasn't actually working at that time, so i re-flashed the latest Super SU and all was good, but, obviously, this knocked out Pokemon GO.
I read up on the trick of using Magisk to be able to turn off root and when was needed as to get the game to work, so i went about trying to get it working. I unrooted via Super SU and then rebooted and flashed the Magisk installer and PHH Superuser (as i heard this was best for compatability). After the phone rebooted i, installed the Magisk launcher and the PHH SU program from the Play Store, but when i opened any app that reuqited root, it was still telling me i wasn't rooted anymore, and thus, when i opened PGO, it worked.
I am kinda lost from here, i want to get my phone rooted again, and i want to get Magisk working so i can still enjoy PGO and some of my occasionally used apps that require root, so my questions are as follows:
1. Can you re-flash an SU over an old one to get root back, or do i need to fully un-root and root again?
2. If i was to re-flash SuperSU (with Magisk support), would this get me rooted again and allow me to flash Magisk as normal?
I am a little lost here, any and all help would be appreciated.
Thanks to all in advance.
Have you tried Root Cloak xposed module?
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jxcorex28 said:
Have you tried Root Cloak xposed module?
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i have, it doesnt work as PGO uses safetynet, like Andriod Pay
Ohh snap, well that's all I had...I don't play PoGo
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For magisk to work, you have to use it to root and unroot. From what I understand, it temporarily removes root system wide when you do this. Basically it's a more convenient way to root and unroot.
Android Police has an article on it right now. The instructions for installation and usage are correct.
The problem is probably related to a failure to make sure all traces of previous SuperSU installations are gone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/11/guide-play-pokemon-go-0-37-rooted-android-magisk
For magisk to work it's best to fully unroot, maybe try unsu.zip,
Then have a 100% stock system and boot (kernel)
And before flashing magisk and phh, try the SafetyNet checker app in the playstore. (PoGO uses SafetyNet to check for root, same as Android Pay)
If you pass then go ahead and flash magisk, phh, and then phh app followed by magisk manager
In the magisk thread are all the instructions to follow
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American locked bootloader hide root issues

hope i am not violating any forum rules here, as i know how strict they can be. I am not a noob in this area, ive rooted and flashed all my phones since my droid x on. I miss my s-off HTC so bad. I did 5 minutes of research and thought all Galaxy S7s were bootloader/recovery unlockable...only to find out the american versions arent after im stuck with s Sprint SM-G930P. I was able to root and install xposed with the engineer boot.img and odin. Since TWRP or recovery isnt an option I have tried for months to systemless root this thing to hide root and pass safetynet. Ive tried flashfire to flash SU systemless 2.78SR5 and root switch and am on android 6.0.1 PE1 firmware following guides here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s7/how-to/sm-g930p-root-t3410604 but after factory reseting and trying Rootswitch (will hide exposed but not root with flashfire installing it since bootloader lock doesnt allow TWRP) I piddled with magisk but I am not on the Equinox unlockable s7 and am just at a loss here. Any one out there know of a way to hide root with this version of S7? Im out of ideas and any help here is appreciated. When i flashfire Supersu i get the locked out modified boot img error, but selecting AP and flashing the engineer boot img will get me back up rooted but root switch is a no go. I can use buildprop/rootzwitch to set selinux permissive sstatus but still fail. I refuse to let samsung not let me root my phone properly. I ser xposed modules like snorlax being updated so there seems to be a way to use xposed modules in PoGo while hiding root/xpised but every guide i see leads to TWRP instructions. Can i adb/terminal install magisk/rootswitch? and stiil use modules? (Cart before the horse question seeing as right now i cant bypass safetynet.) HELP!!
Have you made any more progress with this by chance?

Magisk v11.6 compatible with Droid Turbo Stock ROM

I can confirm that Magisk v11.6 installs and appears to function perfectly on my stock, unrooted, bootloader unlocked MCG24.251-5-5 device. Also, MagiskHide is not enabled by default, so keep this in mind if you're using a work device or any other situation where you might get in trouble for failing safetynet. That's all I know so far.
Go forth and Magisk!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Pics or it didn't happen
And last, but certainly not least...
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
Sparksys said:
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
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No.
Sparksys said:
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
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No. Sunshine unlocks your bootloader, so you can then root.
Sparksys said:
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
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There will never be a free root for this device unless you develop it, so you can save yourself the time asking in so many different threads.
Can anyone tell me where you get the "magiskSU" app from I can't find it in that thread.
Tokogon said:
Can anyone tell me where you get the "magiskSU" app from I can't find it in that thread.
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MagicSU is included with the Magisk package. You can enable or disable it using the Magisk Manager app once it is installed.
TheSt33v said:
MagicSU is included with the Magisk package. You can enable or disable it using the Magisk Manager app once it is installed.
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Do you have a screenshot of where I can find it in settings? I've been searching for an hour and I've reset my phone twice and installed it but can't see it lol.
I want to play Pokemon Go so bad again.
Tokogon said:
Do you have a screenshot of where I can find it in settings? I've been searching for an hour and I've reset my phone twice and installed it but can't see it lol.
I want to play Pokemon Go so bad again.
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Sorry, I was wrong about being able to disable it. There doesn't seem to be an option for that. But as long as Magisk Hide is enabled, Pokémon Go works fine for me.
More complicated question:
If I'm rooted via Computerfreek's debloated stock ROM, is there any point to running Magisk--and if so, how would I switch from SuperSU to MagicSU
y8s said:
More complicated question:
If I'm rooted via Computerfreek's debloated stock ROM, is there any point to running Magisk--and if so, how would I switch from SuperSU to MagicSU
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The only advantage gained would be the ability to pass safetynet/use Android Pay/play pokemon go while rooted. To switch, uninstall SuperSU by selecting the full unroot option in the SuperSU app, then flash Magisk.
TheSt33v said:
The only advantage gained would be the ability to pass safetynet/use Android Pay/play pokemon go while rooted. To switch, uninstall SuperSU by selecting the full unroot option in the SuperSU app, then flash Magisk.
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It's mostly for intellectual curiosity and maybe android pay.
But it didn't work--at least how I went about it.
I went into SuperSU and did a full unroot but did not restore the boot image (should I have?)
Then downloaded and flashed the latest 11.6 magisk
When the phone came back up, SU was gone but Magisk didn't re-root it. There were no options to do so.
Tried a second time and wiped caches but no change.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Magisk needs the OG boot image to work properly?
y8s said:
It's mostly for intellectual curiosity and maybe android pay.
But it didn't work--at least how I went about it.
I went into SuperSU and did a full unroot but did not restore the boot image (should I have?)
Then downloaded and flashed the latest 11.6 magisk
When the phone came back up, SU was gone but Magisk didn't re-root it. There were no options to do so.
Tried a second time and wiped caches but no change.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Magisk needs the OG boot image to work properly?
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I installed it on stock MCG24.251-5-5 and Superuser is an option that appears in Magisk Manager. Yes, you should probably have the stock boot image before installing Magisk. I think the Magisk installer is designed to detect existing installations of SuperSU and not install its own superuser if it's detected, so if the full unroot didn't clean itself up properly for whatever reason, that might be why it didn't install with superuser.
It says:
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-(Recommended) Restore your boot image back to stock
-Download the latest Magisk zip file
-If you choose to use SuperSU (only support Android 6.0+), first flash SuperSU in systemless mode
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Which zip of super su should I flash therefore before flashing magisk zip?
I am currently, after restoring a backup, running your MGC stock with stock kernel, but I try installing bhb27s kernel now.
Ultimately I simply want to hide root+xPosed against my banking app...
€DIT: Wait, so SuperSUB may not be necessary, but is it safe to install magisk over bhb27s kernel?
I would do the following:
-Install newest v44 kernel from March, 12
-Reboot and look if Wi-Fi still works ...
-install Magisk 11.6
-Check if phone still works
-then install a working xposed
-Check if everything works
Is that correct or should I use another kernel version? I don't want another bootloop or damaged wifi^^
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It says:
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-(Recommended) Restore your boot image back to stock
-Download the latest Magisk zip file
-If you choose to use SuperSU (only support Android 6.0+), first flash SuperSU in systemless mode
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Which zip of super su should I flash therefore before flashing magisk zip?
I am currently, after restoring a backup, running your MGC stock with stock kernel, but I try installing bhb27s kernel now.
Ultimately I simply want to hide root+xPosed against my banking app...
€DIT: Wait, so SuperSUB may not be necessary, but is it safe to install magisk over bhb27s kernel?
I would do the following:
-Install newest v44 kernel from March, 12
-Reboot and look if Wi-Fi still works ...
-install Magisk 11.6
-Check if phone still works
-then install a working xposed
-Check if everything works
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I don't see any problems with that plan, but you should know that xposed will insta-fail safetynet. If you want to hide modifications from anything that uses safetynet, xposed in any form is not an option. The only thing that works for me is Magisk 11.6's built in root, no xposed, no other modifications. With that, I can use Android Pay, Pokemon Go and my banking apps just fine as long as Magisk Hide is turned on. Android Pay and PoGo are blocked by default, but you need to make sure to go in and manually check the box next to every other app that you want to hide stuff from.
Also, if you insist on using SuperSU instead of the built in Magisk root (why???), you will also have to install the latest version of suhide (and I'm not positive that works anymore).
.I did not exactly know Super SU is just an option so I will not install it. Wish me luck
Also I hope there will be a way to hide xPosed however my banking app does not use SafetyNet, there is still hope, I don't care about Pokemon Go.
€DIT::: Everything working perfect - however safetynet fails when checking with Magisks own test. I guess it detects the Bootloader?
€DIT2::: Now after another reboot safetynet is successfully bypassed. My banking app still doesn't work - looks like they found a way that is even better than safetynet.
I just haven't had time to dig up another boot.img and flash it. I might revert back to SuperSU and come back to this later.
Einheit-101 said:
.I did not exactly know Super SU is just an option so I will not install it. Wish me luck
Also I hope there will be a way to hide xPosed however my banking app does not use SafetyNet, there is still hope, I don't care about Pokemon Go.
€DIT::: Everything working perfect - however safetynet fails when checking with Magisks own test. I guess it detects the Bootloader?
€DIT2::: Now after another reboot safetynet is successfully bypassed. My banking app still doesn't work - looks like they found a way that is even better than safetynet.
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Try clearing the data for your banking app. Maybe it's set up so that once it fails, it never checks again. Also, clear cache/dalvik cache in TWRP if you haven't already. Also also, did you remember to block the banking app in magisk hide?

SuperSU works on the G5 after all

So, I wanted to use SuperSU as my main root solution(to have the latest magisk, and because it is tested and tried), I attempted rooting with super v2.81 on stock build NPP25.137.72, and to my surprise: it worked!! So now we have SuperSU alongside Magisk as our root solutions
ap4ss3rby said:
So, I wanted to use SuperSU as my main root solution(to have the latest magisk, and because it is tested and tried), I attempted rooting with super v2.81 on stock build NPP25.137.72, and to my surprise: it worked!! So now we have SuperSU alongside Magisk as our root solutions
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Very cool :good:, could you provide a link and maybe some further informations?
Just flash SuperSu v2.82 on top of the aforementioned build, using twrp
however, I would like to note that even though requesting sure is recorded by the SuperSU app(and reports granting SU access) we don't have root access
Just flash SuperSu v2.82 on top of the aforementioned build, using twrp
however, I would like to note that even though requesting SU is recorded by the SuperSU app(and reports granting SU access) we don't have root access
ap4ss3rby said:
Just flash SuperSu v2.82 on top of the aforementioned build, using twrp
however, I would like to note that even though requesting SU is recorded by the SuperSU app(and reports granting SU access) we don't have root access
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Hello,
I just received my own, and want to be sure:
did Supersu worked yes or no?
can you explain the different steps from a brand new stock g5?
and does fingerprint still works after all?
thank you
daktary said:
Hello,
I just received my own, and want to be sure:
did Supersu worked yes or no?
can you explain the different steps from a brand new stock g5?
and does fingerprint still works after all?
thank you
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Fingerprint still works, but root access very rarely works, but SuperSu does install, and for installation:
In a nutshell unlock the bootloader, flash twrp, get supersu v2.82 flashable zip on the sdcard, install the latest available app from apkmirror, and you're done

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