So I am coming from the Samsung Galaxy S5 and have found Samsung actually does some things that make sense.
Since the Moto has the "Pure Android Experience" things are a lot different and seems more complected or lacking the user friendly experience.
This is a list of things I am having problems with, If anyone has a resolution, PLEASE chime in, Thank You,
Now just to be clear, Motorola seems to have made a very nice, High Quality Phone, All of my issues/dislikes are on the software side of things. I would say the build quality is on par with Samsung and other top tier phones
No way to set music as my alarm clock, there is no option to set a song as my alarm I have installed rocket player but it does not show up under "use different app" Zedge is the only option
No real "quick settings" need to pull down top of screen twice, then hit data button, then turn on/off data. 3 steps needed to turn on/off data. Samsung pull down once and hit the mobile data switch and your done
Text message notifications, stock text message app only shows when you have a unread message on the lock screen, no blinking LED on the phone an no unread message count overlayed on the message app icon. Samsung message app has both. I am using Textra app now, still no better for missed texts but at least I can change themes to dark.
Phone dialer, when opened shows your starred contacts not the dialer number pad, cannot find a way to open the dialer directly to number pad, need to make 2 steps now to dial a number
No Restart option when power button is pressed, only shut down
Two other annoying finds,
I have found the flashlight chop action is more frustrating then using the flashlight icon switch. I can only get the flashlight to turn on once in about 10 tries, same to shut off.
21 meg camera setting, Rather disappointing that the only way to take advantage of the 21 meg setting is to have it in 4:3 ratio. WTH, who uses 4:3 ration anymore, everything is now 16:9 4:3 ration is dead anf has been for a long time.
Hitch_Itch said:
So I am coming from the Samsung Galaxy S5 and have found Samsung actually does some things that make sense.
Since the Moto has the "Pure Android Experience" things are a lot different and seems more complected or lacking the user friendly experience.
This is a list of things I am having problems with, If anyone has a resolution, PLEASE chime in, Thank You,
Now just to be clear, Motorola seems to have made a very nice, High Quality Phone, All of my issues/dislikes are on the software side of things. I would say the build quality is on par with Samsung and other top tier phones
No way to set music as my alarm clock, there is no option to set a song as my alarm I have installed rocket player but it does not show up under "use different app" Zedge is the only option
No real "quick settings" need to pull down top of screen twice, then hit data button, then turn on/off data. 3 steps needed to turn on/off data. Samsung pull down once and hit the mobile data switch and your done
Text message notifications, stock text message app only shows when you have a unread message on the lock screen, no blinking LED on the phone an no unread message count overlayed on the message app icon. Samsung message app has both. I am using Textra app now, still no better for missed texts but at least I can change themes to dark.
Phone dialer, when opened shows your starred contacts not the dialer number pad, cannot find a way to open the dialer directly to number pad, need to make 2 steps now to dial a number
No Restart option when power button is pressed, only shut down
Two other annoying finds,
I have found the flashlight chop action is more frustrating then using the flashlight icon switch. I can only get the flashlight to turn on once in about 10 tries, same to shut off.
21 meg camera setting, Rather disappointing that the only way to take advantage of the 21 meg setting is to have it in 4:3 ratio. WTH, who uses 4:3 ration anymore, everything is now 16:9 4:3 ration is dead anf has been for a long time.
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Here's a suggestion that might help with the chop-chop flashlight function:
Instead of a "chopping motion" as suggested, try this:
While holding your moto X (screen off), give it a firm double handshake.
This works 100% of the time for me. The trick seems to be giving the phone an straight up-and-down motion (just like a handshake) instead of a pivoted "chopping" motion.
Let me know if it helps...
samwathegreat:
Here's a suggestion that might help with the chop-chop flashlight function:
Instead of a "chopping motion" as suggested, try this:
While holding your moto X (screen off), give it a firm double handshake.
This works 100% of the time for me. The trick seems to be giving the phone an straight up-and-down motion (just like a handshake) instead of a pivoted "chopping" motion.
Let me know if it helps...
Thanks for the tip, that does seem to be a lot better. almost 100% on/off, probably just need to get more practice at it. Moto shows the chopping motion instead of the hand shake up/down motion.
I found Textra text app to cure my text issues once I setup everything in the settings menu.
two things off my list, a few to go.
Thanks again for tip
I have a better suggestion... Go back to your samsung.
Why on earth should motorola go back to the days of moto blur? I read your opinion, imo...motorola and lenovo should carry on with what they're doing. Majority of people buying the new motos, desire stock or closer to stock as aosp.
Why doesn't motorola make software like samsung, blah blah blah. You want to change something? Change your own and leave mine alone.
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I have a better suggestion... Go back to your samsung.
Why on earth should motorola go back to the days of moto blur? I read your opinion, imo...motorola and lenovo should carry on with what they're doing. Majority of people buying the new motos, desire stock or closer to stock as aosp.
Why doesn't motorola make software like samsung, blah blah blah. You want to change something? Change your own and leave mine alone.
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I was expecting a few Flame replies like. Haters gonna Hate!
Quote my text here I said I want Moto to use Samsung software!
I found the answer to my text issues by finding a 3rd party text app. Maybe instead of posting a flame, you could have posted something constructive like samwathegreat did. Maybe suggest a 3rd party app to achieve what I am looking for.
I have been around here actually helping people a lot longer then you have or probably will be. If your not part of the solution, you are part of the problem, Go flame somewhere else and be part of the problem there!
Anyway to resolve your issues with the mobile data toggle and functionality in general I highly suggest Xposed + GravityBox. You can set it up so that pulling from a particular side of screen immediately opens your quick toggles and you can also set it up so that one press on the signal indicator shuts off data instead of opening the menu. The way I have mine set right now, if I swipe from the left I get quick toggles, from the center my notifications and I have an app called Snap Swipe drawer that pulls down from the right and allows me to have quick access to any widget I choose. Really great for adding additional toggles for your own personal apps. For example I have a toggle in there that allows me to stream any system audio directly to my in home DLNA receivers with one click. Also GravityBox will resolve your dialpad issue as well as there is a setting to make so the dialpad opens first, and also there is an option for to add a restart menu option into the power menu as well.
timde9 said:
Anyway to resolve your issues with the mobile data toggle and functionality in general I highly suggest Xposed + GravityBox. You can set it up so that pulling from a particular side of screen immediately opens your quick toggles and you can also set it up so that one press on the signal indicator shuts off data instead of opening the menu. The way I have mine set right now, if I swipe from the left I get quick toggles, from the center my notifications and I have an app called Snap Swipe drawer that pulls down from the right and allows me to have quick access to any widget I choose. Really great for adding additional toggles for your own personal apps. For example I have a toggle in there that allows me to stream any system audio directly to my in home DLNA receivers with one click. Also GravityBox will resolve your dialpad issue as well as there is a setting to make so the dialpad opens first, and also there is an option for to add a restart menu option into the power menu as well.
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Nice, thanks for that info. I did use Xposed years ago when I had my rooted HTC phones, IT was a great app back then. I never rooted my Samsung phones, to much of a pain with the Knox BS.
I need to look into rooting methods. Hoping they have a one click root method, So easy that way. I remember Xposed could change the signal icon colors to make it easier to read which I loved.
Thanks for the post!
You can swipe down with two fingers from the status bar and it will pull down the quick settings.
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You can swipe down with two fingers from the status bar and it will pull down the quick settings.
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Now thats a helpful trick, Thanks!
dustin_b said:
You can swipe down with two fingers from the status bar and it will pull down the quick settings.
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Nice trick! I just came to this phone after using one I'd had CM/AOSP on for years. I was really missing Quick Pulldown.
Where did you learn this? Any other gestures gems I might be missing?
jason2678 said:
Nice trick! I just came to this phone after using one I'd had CM/AOSP on for years. I was really missing Quick Pulldown.
Where did you learn this? Any other gestures gems I might be missing?
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IIRC, someone posted it on G+. That's the only one I know of though.
Press and hold settings button in the quick settings. It'll add a settings line for the status/notification bar.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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Hitch_Itch said:
21 meg camera setting, Rather disappointing that the only way to take advantage of the 21 meg setting is to have it in 4:3 ratio. WTH, who uses 4:3 ration anymore, everything is now 16:9 4:3 ration is dead anf has been for a long time.
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Well because camera sensors have 4:3 aspect ratio (generally). To have a 21mpixel 16:9 ratio the sensor would have to be more like 30 mpixel.
Sincerely I would prefer a higher quality sensor for low light conditions over a high mpixel sensor. My Sony Nex-5N is "only" 16Mpixel but has a APS-C sensor that is way larger than any sensor put on a cellphone and will provide better IQ even under low light conditions.
Hitch_Itch said:
So I am coming from the Samsung Galaxy S5 and have found Samsung actually does some things that make sense.
Since the Moto has the "Pure Android Experience" things are a lot different and seems more complected or lacking the user friendly experience.
This is a list of things I am having problems with, If anyone has a resolution, PLEASE chime in, Thank You,
Now just to be clear, Motorola seems to have made a very nice, High Quality Phone, All of my issues/dislikes are on the software side of things. I would say the build quality is on par with Samsung and other top tier phones
No way to set music as my alarm clock, there is no option to set a song as my alarm I have installed rocket player but it does not show up under "use different app" Zedge is the only option
No real "quick settings" need to pull down top of screen twice, then hit data button, then turn on/off data. 3 steps needed to turn on/off data. Samsung pull down once and hit the mobile data switch and your done
Text message notifications, stock text message app only shows when you have a unread message on the lock screen, no blinking LED on the phone an no unread message count overlayed on the message app icon. Samsung message app has both. I am using Textra app now, still no better for missed texts but at least I can change themes to dark.
Phone dialer, when opened shows your starred contacts not the dialer number pad, cannot find a way to open the dialer directly to number pad, need to make 2 steps now to dial a number
No Restart option when power button is pressed, only shut down
Two other annoying finds,
I have found the flashlight chop action is more frustrating then using the flashlight icon switch. I can only get the flashlight to turn on once in about 10 tries, same to shut off.
21 meg camera setting, Rather disappointing that the only way to take advantage of the 21 meg setting is to have it in 4:3 ratio. WTH, who uses 4:3 ration anymore, everything is now 16:9 4:3 ration is dead anf has been for a long time.
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The notification is the moto display. It comes on when new notification and you can just wave your hand over the screen to see if you've missed anything. No need for flashing light. No read message count can be added through Nova Launcher (as well as others I'm sure.). Not sure I know a whole lot of people who use dialer. Either you have people you call often (favorites) or if calling a business you would be able to call from maps/Google search with call button. I'm sure there's other ways of making a song for your alarm. Just so you're aware and I'm not flaming, but this is why it's called Pure edition. Its basically a nexus with software additions that you can disable. I feel some of the "issues" you're having could be resolved with a few searches, and are also quite frankly a bit nit-picky. Don't go from Samsung to Motorola and expect them to be the same. Each have there own positives and caveats. If you are unhappy with moto, then before your change manufacturers, maybe you should do some research.
I did a lot of reading about this phone first and was ready for a change. Im just looking for solutions to the things that I was use to having on my phones in the past
Im not looking to dis or put either on a pedestal, Sorry If may have come off that way. With android almost anything is possible, you just need to find the right app.
I must not have something set right, the only thing I see when I have my hand over the phone is the time, I dont see missed text or emails until I swipe to the home screen.
Thanks
I agree with the LED light for notification issue. Moto Display is overly sensitive and being an LCD over AMOLED, uses more battery.
If you could program Moto Display to work only when you have a notification so that it doesn't turn itself off with the most minute shake of the phone it would be a different issue.
I hope I'm not late. You can do the traditional method for music alarms... Download any file manager (I recommend Cabinet) and drop whatever music you want into the "Alarms" folder.
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Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a replacement for my N95 which borked and am quite intrigued by the HTC Touch HD or Blackstone so thought I would join on here.
One of the features I liked about my N95 was the ability to browse the web so that is why I am drawn to this phone. I also like the idea of having lots of features and functionality.
One thing I can't find out though is how good it is at being a normal phone (I don't know if saying 'normal phone' is sacreligious around here). I do quite like phoning people and also texting people. I have seen the keyboard being demoed and the regular T9 keypad looked quite thumbable, is it? How does it compare to that of the Samsung Omnia because I have tried texting on that and I found that quite easy and I very much liked the haptics response. Also, I have no idea what happens when you do receive a text, or a phone call. With a text does a big screen come up saying you have a text and all you need is one click to read the text and one more to reply or is it a very long winded process?
I am planning to go into town tomorrow and although I might not find a Touch HD to try I will hopefully find some other HTC like the Diamond which I believe has Touch 3D, so if I like that would the Blackstone be right for me?
To be absolutely honest: as a REAL phone (texting and calling people)...it is not as good as a real phone with a phone keyboard. For that experience, get an old candybar Nokia. But then again, iphone or any other phone (including ttyn's and others with slide-out keyboards) don't have that level of dedicated, made-for-phone-use feeling. An all touchscreen phone, and/or a WM pocketpc just lose a little in pure phone functionality.
HOWEVER, you don't loose too much, although you'll need some extra programs. Like TouchResponse (it's free and it's great ), for some haptic feedback when you press keys, and you'll need to take the time to set up WM/TouchFlo2/3d to your liking.
As for recieving txt's; you open the phone, click on the txt button (ribbon on the bottom, third onscreen button) and viola, you see the txt you just recieved...oneclick operation (maybe two if you have to power the screen on if you'r way too late in getting the phone).
All that said and done: it is a decent phone, but THE BEST pda+phone Internet rocks (try a few different browsers though ) with an awesome screen. Contacts could use some work though (or find a replacement app...I'm still looking), but sms and dialer are fine, if not very special.
Anyway, me personally, I'm quite happy with my Touch HD
PS:The camera is technically good, but in real life it sucks as it takes too long from registering the screenpress to actually taking a picture, rendering it useless unless taking a picture of a nonmoving building.
First of all - welcome to the forum!!!
mike_dangerous said:
...how good it is at being a normal phone
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I have not had any problems with it as a phone. I hear people fine, they hear me fine, and so far no calls have been cut/lost.
I have seen the keyboard being demoed and the regular T9 keypad looked quite thumbable, is it? How does it compare to that of the Samsung Omnia because I have tried texting on that and I found that quite easy and I very much liked the haptics response.
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I have only tested the Omnia at stores, and I think the keyboard on the HD is better. The Omnia has the space bar in strange location toward the right of the keyboard. That kind of bugged me.
To read more about the HD keyboard, see this thread. There you will also find a couple of youtube videos along with lots of responses and opinions from different users.
Also, I have no idea what happens when you do receive a text, or a phone call. With a text does a big screen come up saying you have a text and all you need is one click to read the text and one more to reply or is it a very long winded process?
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I'll post some screenshots showing:
Pic Nr. 1: Home screen - normal
Pic Nr. 2: An SMS arriving (no big screen, just a signal/vibration and a green little call box with the number of messages unread (at the bottom) as well as an envelope icon on the top bar.
Pic Nr. 3: After tapping on the green call box - opens up sms tab
Pic Nr. 4: Tapping on the message itself in Pic 3 opens up this window to respond to the sms
Pic Nr. 5: If in Pic 3 you tap on Menu instead of on the message text, you get these options (New, Answer, Forward, Delete)
Pic Nr. 6: A call arriving (I blurred the number). Use the slider to accept/reject or use the grey button below them to stop the ringer. You can also turn the phone face down on a surface (desk, table) to make the ringer stop. If you have a picture of the person calling, you will see the picture instead of the "anonymous" picture you see here.
Also, if you press on "Text" at the bottom left, the sms application opens up with a predefined text to send to that caller. In settings, you can type whatever you want that text to be. For example, "I can't answer your call right now. I will contact you as soon as possible". That's pretty handy, I think.
Pic Nr. 7: Home screen showing you missed a call. Notice the new text under the clock (picture is in German) and the red phone icon on the top bar.
KEEP IN MIND that these pictures show colored icons in the top bar. That is done with third-party software. I can attach the .cab files to this post if you want (one for the green battery with % charge on it and another for the other icons).
One downfall is that after you miss an sms or a call, you are not continuously reminded of that. You can set it so the tiny LED light on the top of the phone (next to the power button) blinks for a given period of time (or indefinitely) until you have looked at your missed call or text message. However, other than that, you need third party software for the phone to remind you through sound or vibration every few minutes after missing a call or sms.
I am planning to go into town tomorrow and although I might not find a Touch HD to try I will hopefully find some other HTC like the Diamond which I believe has Touch 3D, so if I like that would the Blackstone be right for me?
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The HD and Diamond are very similar as far as TouchFlo 3D. There are some differences - for example the Weather tab, Stocks tab etc... But it will give you an overall idea of the HD. It would be best of course if you actually get an HD to test.
Here is a good review of the HD with lots of screenshots. Check it out.
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1111
Nice write up from Chris Cross. The only things I'd like to add refer to the differences between the Diamond/Pro and the HD. I saw a Diamond a few weeks before I found an HD and I thought it was nicely small and sleek. The HD by comparison feels big and heavy but it's still a lovely piece of hardware. If you try the Diamond in a shop you won't discover how much easier it is to use the on-screen keyboards on the larger HD screen. People also seem to report that the screen brightness and sensitivity are better on the HD.
I guess all I'm saying is that the Diamond won't necessarily sell you the HD experience.
Are you anywhere near Sussex?
mike_dangerous said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a replacement for my N95 which borked and am quite intrigued by the HTC Touch HD or Blackstone so thought I would join on here.
One of the features I liked about my N95 was the ability to browse the web so that is why I am drawn to this phone. I also like the idea of having lots of features and functionality.
One thing I can't find out though is how good it is at being a normal phone (I don't know if saying 'normal phone' is sacreligious around here). I do quite like phoning people and also texting people. I have seen the keyboard being demoed and the regular T9 keypad looked quite thumbable, is it? How does it compare to that of the Samsung Omnia because I have tried texting on that and I found that quite easy and I very much liked the haptics response. Also, I have no idea what happens when you do receive a text, or a phone call. With a text does a big screen come up saying you have a text and all you need is one click to read the text and one more to reply or is it a very long winded process?
I am planning to go into town tomorrow and although I might not find a Touch HD to try I will hopefully find some other HTC like the Diamond which I believe has Touch 3D, so if I like that would the Blackstone be right for me?
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Part of the answer to your question will dpend on you - on the face of it, a transition from N95 to HD is much more extreme than from a Diamond to an HD.
As many others have said on this forum, if you are well versed in 'optimising' WM6 then the HD is a great platform on which to stamp your preferences. If you want out of the box...
I wouldn't say 'no' but please do go into any decision with your eyes open - I have had many mates over the years who have loved the various XDA-type devices I have shown them but when they get their hands on one of their own it all becomes a bit too much.
SiliconS said:
Are you anywhere near Sussex?
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If you mean near as being in the UK then yes but if you mean near as in being able to travel there easily then no.
Chris Cross said:
First of all - welcome to the forum!!!
I have not had any problems with it as a phone. I hear people fine, they hear me fine, and so far no calls have been cut/lost.
I have only tested the Omnia at stores, and I think the keyboard on the HD is better. The Omnia has the space bar in strange location toward the right of the keyboard. That kind of bugged me.
To read more about the HD keyboard, see this thread. There you will also find a couple of youtube videos along with lots of responses and opinions from different users.
I'll post some screenshots showing:
Pic Nr. 1: Home screen - normal
Pic Nr. 2: An SMS arriving (no big screen, just a signal/vibration and a green little call box with the number of messages unread (at the bottom) as well as an envelope icon on the top bar.
Pic Nr. 3: After tapping on the green call box - opens up sms tab
Pic Nr. 4: Tapping on the message itself in Pic 3 opens up this window to respond to the sms
Pic Nr. 5: If in Pic 3 you tap on Menu instead of on the message text, you get these options (New, Answer, Forward, Delete)
Pic Nr. 6: A call arriving (I blurred the number). Use the slider to accept/reject or use the grey button below them to stop the ringer. You can also turn the phone face down on a surface (desk, table) to make the ringer stop. If you have a picture of the person calling, you will see the picture instead of the "anonymous" picture you see here.
Also, if you press on "Text" at the bottom left, the sms application opens up with a predefined text to send to that caller. In settings, you can type whatever you want that text to be. For example, "I can't answer your call right now. I will contact you as soon as possible". That's pretty handy, I think.
Pic Nr. 7: Home screen showing you missed a call. Notice the new text under the clock (picture is in German) and the red phone icon on the top bar.
KEEP IN MIND that these pictures show colored icons in the top bar. That is done with third-party software. I can attach the .cab files to this post if you want (one for the green battery with % charge on it and another for the other icons).
One downfall is that after you miss an sms or a call, you are not continuously reminded of that. You can set it so the tiny LED light on the top of the phone (next to the power button) blinks for a given period of time (or indefinitely) until you have looked at your missed call or text message. However, other than that, you need third party software for the phone to remind you through sound or vibration every few minutes after missing a call or sms.
The HD and Diamond are very similar as far as TouchFlo 3D. There are some differences - for example the Weather tab, Stocks tab etc... But it will give you an overall idea of the HD. It would be best of course if you actually get an HD to test.
Here is a good review of the HD with lots of screenshots. Check it out.
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1111
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Thanks, those screenshots are really useful because I don't think I have seen anything like that anywhere and it looks fairly easy to handle when receiving a call etc. On the screen where it shows the message you received, there is a button with the message sign and a pencil can you press this to reply with one click or is it for something else?
iain.fraser said:
Part of the answer to your question will dpend on you - on the face of it, a transition from N95 to HD is much more extreme than from a Diamond to an HD.
As many others have said on this forum, if you are well versed in 'optimising' WM6 then the HD is a great platform on which to stamp your preferences. If you want out of the box...
I wouldn't say 'no' but please do go into any decision with your eyes open - I have had many mates over the years who have loved the various XDA-type devices I have shown them but when they get their hands on one of their own it all becomes a bit too much.
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That is the thing that I like about the Windows Mobiles is that they can be easily customised. I know they aren't the most finger friendly phones but all I really need my fingers for is ordinary phone use, which the Touch HD looks like it has got down to a tee.
I heard that microsoft will possibly launch WM7 somewhere in the not too distant future. Is it likely that HTC will offer an upgrade (free?) to this or will it be stuck on WM6.1? I have heard they did something similar for previous windows upgrades.
mike_dangerous said:
Thanks, those screenshots are really useful because I don't think I have seen anything like that anywhere and it looks fairly easy to handle when receiving a call etc. On the screen where it shows the message you received, there is a button with the message sign and a pencil can you press this to reply with one click or is it for something else?
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You're welcome. Before I got my HD I also wanted to see screenshots of different things.
To answer your question...
The button with a message sign and a pencil is to start a brand new message where you would later have to choose a recipient.
If you want to answer to the person that sent you the message, then just tap on the message itself and it will open up a reply window where all you have to do is type the message and press send (that is what picture 4 shows. Also, notice the thin gray line across the screen with the cursor blinking below it - well, you don't see it blinking in the picture That is where your response text would show). All messages and your responses are stored in a chat style thread. The other person's messages begin with the green bold text, and your sent responses (which you don't see in my pictures) start in blue bold text. In that window (Pic 4) you can hide the keyboard if you want to see more of the screen. You can choose to delete an entire thread or just an entry in a thread.
That is the thing that I like about the Windows Mobiles is that they can be easily customised. I know they aren't the most finger friendly phones but all I really need my fingers for is ordinary phone use, which the Touch HD looks like it has got down to a tee.
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True. And along with that, you have the typical buggy occurrences that come with Windows. So, be ready for those too. But, they're not too bad - in my opinion.
I heard that microsoft will possibly launch WM7 somewhere in the not too distant future. Is it likely that HTC will offer an upgrade (free?) to this or will it be stuck on WM6.1? I have heard they did something similar for previous windows upgrades.
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Last I read is that you would see new phones with it in stores at the end of 2009 or early 2010. But you know how that can change. I would assume you could upgrade, but I doubt it would be a free upgrade.
Well I managed to try the phone in an Orange Shop today and I do really like it. The biggest problem I found was the lack of haptics when typing on the keyboard (it was there on the TouchFlo3D buttons and the "hardware" buttons but no where else. Is this something that can be added?
Thing is I want to get the phone right now, but this would mean my dad getting the contract which could really cause problems in the long run. So I am comtemplating getting a cheap everyday phone for a month until I become the magic age and then getting it on a contract with no hindrance from my dad at all. This would also give me a phone to use at parties and things. Is this a wise move, the problem I forsee is that choices will be even harder in Feb.
You can add third party software to make it vibrate whenever you touch the screen. TouchResponse is one option. I don't use anything like that, so I don't know if there are some that vibrate only with the keyboard. To be honest, it would annoy me for it to vibrate every time I touch the screen even when the keyboard is not there. Also, I don't know if programs like Spb Keyboard have that option for the keyboard only.
Yeah, wait til February. That way, you'll have your own contract, no conflicts with your dad, and you will probably even get a better deal on the HD by then. Time will go by fast and before you know it, it will be HD time!
I just hope that it remains the phone that I really want as things may change. The only disadvantage I see is that O2 might have got their grubby paws all over it by then and it will only be available with their firmware on it which would make it very uninviting.
Maybe by February HTC will have updated the firmware to include haptics on the keypads but other than that I liked the phone.
Go to pocketnow.com and read the full review and that will help make your mind & if that does not then forget it!
I don't doubt that I don't want it, and I want it right now. Its just more practical to wait, saves having to transfer a contract etc etc.
As to some previous replies... yes, with the built in TouchFlo3D and the built in keyboards it's far away from a normal Nokia or SonyEriccsson phone...
I am happier with my phone just with SPB Mobile Shell (Excellent phone like contacts searching, and faster than ANY other phone when needing to find a contact) and PCM Keyboard (best tradeoff between touch friendly keys and size on screen space). Personal preference always.
Also, there are free apps to do some stuff that normal 50euro phones take for granted (like sending group messages and setting alarms etc etc) and then you can make the phone closer to a normal Nokia one, while having all the additional features of Windows.
My 2c
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PS:The camera is technically good, but in real life it sucks as it takes too long from registering the screenpress to actually taking a picture, rendering it useless unless taking a picture of a nonmoving building.
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I have no problem taking picture of fast moving vehicle at all, and the screenpress is fast enough.
This is one of the pictures I have taken. It looks sharp and clear to me.
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I decided to translate a preview of the Samsung Galaxy S III that I found on Finland's number one Android site, androidsuomi.fi
I encourage you to visit the original blog post, there are some nice pics of the phone and the UI as well as some sample videos!
The text of the review has been translated to english by me, so that everyone here can enjoy it. I do apologize for the somewhat clumsy translation work, turns out it was really really hard - and it definitely made me realize just how lousy Google Translate is... It was of very little help in the end!
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Visit the source by clicking here, some good pictures and sample videos to be found there!
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I want to say to everyone who thinks the phone is ugly on the basis of the press photos, you are wrong. Thank you. Samsung's press photos do not in any way do justice to the device, and the device seems somehow very unnatural in the official photos. In person the device is truly stunning and one of the best looking Android phones on the market today. I am recommending to everyone who is scared of the device's looks to check out the device in the wild. If the device even after that appears to be an ugly mistake, then you are very hard to please.
Samsung has decided to stand out from the predecessor also when it comes to the sales presentation of the device, and unlike the Galaxy S II's packaging, the new phone's packaging is a virgin white. The box does not contain any oddities, in addition to the phone there is a battery pack, headphones, quick guides, a charger, and a microUSB cable.
Externally, the device looks like the next generation of the SGS2 and the Galaxy Nexus, with the design language of the Nexus, but adding to that the SGS2's width and the physical keys. Speaking of the width, the device is only 4 mm wider than the SGS2, but feels narrower in the hand, thanks to its rounded figure. On the front of the device we find a 4.8 "1280 × 720, HD resolution Super AMOLED display and on the top of the screen is a 2 Mpix webcam.
At the bottom of the display we find a redrafted version of Samsung's home key which can be found next to the menu and back buttons. Thank you once again Samsung for leaving the menu button on an Android 4.0 phone, because it makes it a lot easier to use the phone. The staff of this site have never really liked the native, badly designed menu button of ICS, a physical one is much more comfortable to work with. On the right edge we find the power button, volume control on the left, on the top is a 3.5-mm headphone jack and on the bottom is a MHL-equipped microUSB interface. Back cover has a main camera equipped with an 8 Mpix backlit sensor, LED flash and a speaker.
On the top of the screen we also find a tri-color notification LED; when the device is being charged it is lit in red, when charging is complete it's lit in green, and if you have unacknowledged notifications, the LED indicates this in a blue color.
Samsung has made a lot of changes to the interface and already when you start the device for the first time you will notice that change is expected as according to the device's "natural and designed for people" theme, the startup sound has changed to be more "organic".
The next change greets you at the lock the screen, which has received changes with a heavy hand; in addition to the old weather and time, the lock screen gives you the opportunity to receive news headlines at the bottom of the screen, in their own expandable space. Unfortunately, the benefits of this from a Finnish point of view is limited, given that, at least in its current version, the software uses the Yahoo! News source, which does not provide any Finnish news headlines. In addition, it is possible to have quick start shortcuts to four optional applications on the lock screen, much like on the devices by a certain three-letter named manufacturer. In addition, one can enter S Voice right from the lock screen, either by saying "Hi Galaxy" or by saying any other user configureable phrase. The unlock effect has changed and taking the place of the former lock and ball is now a dynamic, touch-sensitive, water. Fortunately, all of these features can be switched on or off according to one's will.
For those who want quick access to the camera, but do not like the camera icons, Samsung has added a clever gesture to the lock screen that opens the camera quickly. The gesture consists of tapping the screen with a finger, holding the finger pressed on the screen while tilting the phone into landscape mode.
The desktop is not that different from its predecessor, but Samsung has finally made it so the middle desktop is the main one on the III.
The panel view that makes jumping between desktops easier has gotten the "make this desktop the default desktop" button that is familiar from the newer Galaxy Tabs. With this feature, those who are used to the home screen ordering of the SGS2 can choose to make the first desktop to be the default desktop.
The notification area has also some welcome new features: In addition to the old shortcuts it is now possible to toggle mobile data on and off right from the notification area. In addition, the date now appears in the notification area, the "clear" button has been narrowed and a shortcut key to the phone's settings has been added.
It is now possible to switch the settings to display the battery charge as a percentage in the notification area, which should please those who always enable this feature using a third-party application.
As I mentioned at the beginning, Samsung has retained the menu button on the device, and slightly in violation of the Android 4.0 user interface design, forced the menus to open at the bottom edge of the display. This is actually a good change, since it facilitates the use of the phone with one hand considerably. The missing multitasking button is replaced by holding the home key pressed down.
The pre-installed software consists of: FM radio, Gallery, Game Hub-game store, Gmail, Google + Search, Browser, Calendar, Clock, Camera, Calculator, Latitude, Maps, Music Player, File Manager, Voice Memos, S Suggest app recommendation tool, Samsung Apps, E-mail, Talk, Video Player, Messages, Contacts and Youtube. Samsung has also included instant messenger ChatOn, which recognizes other ChatOn users on the basis of their telephone number and automatically adds them as contacts in the application.
In addition to these, we have the Music Hub, which is unfortunately not available in Finland and AllShare Play, an application that allows your computer to display media content stored on your computer on the phone over the internet, anywhere. Unfortunately, we did not get AllShare Play the desktop application to connect with the phone. Although the app was on our phone, it probably is an unfinished version of the application, so we are going to test this feature again when we get our hands on the device sporting the final version of the software.
Samsung has packed the S-memo application into the device, a familiar app from the Galaxy Note the familiar, which manages small notes with ease. Samsung also sells a separate capacitive C-Pen stylus as an accessory to the Galaxy S III. Those who purchased the Note may however breathe a sigh of relief, because the accuracy is quite a different class (mostly only slightly better than using a finger) and pressure detection is totally absent.
It also comes with Dropbox, and activating it on the phone will be rewarded by 50 gigabytes (or 48, if you're already an existing user) of disk space for two years.
Samsung has also included its own S-Voice speech recognition system, which is capable of a variety of tasks such as scheduling, creating calendar entries, sending text messages, making phone calls and searching for data online.
S Voicella can also take pictures "hands free", as with the S Voice it is possible to unlock the phone, start the camera and trigger the camera by voice control.
Voice control also works elsewhere, for example, it is possible to respond to an incoming call using the command "answer", it is possible to snooze an alarm with "snooze", in the radio and music player it is possible to change the track and adjust the volume with the appropriate commands. Although the above screen capture could conclude that the S Voice would support Finnish, it does not, unfortunately. The above commands are mainly a translator error that will be corrected in the final version of the software. S Voice officially supports German, English, Spanish, French, Italian and Korean.
One of the niftiest reforms is the "Intelligent time-out" (Smart Stay), this feature takes advantage of the front camera and face detection to check if the phone is used, to prevent an automatic shutdown feature of the screen. This feature allows you to drop the "screen off" limit to as low as 15 seconds, because the feature works extremely well. When enabled, the only sign that the phone is looking at you is the flickering eye icon occasionally seen in the notification area. This is a great feature, especially for apps that can not keep the phone awake. This function is also able to monitor whether the user has fallen asleep or whether he/she has put the phone on a table for example, and then a device that has a long "screen off" setting would shut off its display much earlier.
New gestures have also been added in addition to the old familiar ones and the quick start camera gesture mentioned in the beginning of the article. One of them is "direct call", which allows calling the contact displayed on the screen simply by lifting the telephone to the ear. If desired, all the gesture-control systems can be switched off.
Samsung has also enabled mirroring the device wirelessly to the big screen using the AllShare Cast feature, a feature that has of course been directly added to new Samsung TV sets (2012 series), but other devices can have this functionality too using an AllShare Cast dongle. The dongle is connected to your TV to an available HDMI port, and after this, the television is AllShare Cast-compatible. Unfortunately, this feature is not really suitable for gaming because at least using an AllShare Cast dongle, there was discernible lag, evident in the video above.
The video player has also received an update and the Pop Up Play feature allows video to play in a freely movable small window on the screen, making it possible to do other things while watching the video. Pop Up Play also allows the transmission video from the phone to the big screen; AllShare Cast allows you to continue checking e-mail for example, or surfing the web at the same time while the video is running on your TV. In the current software version the Pop Up Play button was however disabled when the phone was connected to AllShare Castiin. The function should be included in the retail version, though. The video player is also able to offer DLNA-devices on the same local area network as an alternative screen automatically, and you don't therefore have to search for them separately.
The Gallery also has face recognition technology, and now the people in the pictures are automatically detected and then it is possible to call or send a message to a person by tapping their face.
1080p video without image stabilization:
1080p video with image stabilization enabled:
The camera has also been given a huge number of improvements and it now includes a real HDR-shooting mode, which takes multiple images and makes them the HDR, a burst mode that records at a whopping 3.3 frames per second, a smile shot mode which automatically takes a picture when the subject smiles and a "beauty" mode, which automatically smoothes skin roughness like in millions of social media images. In addition to these improvements we find an image-sharing mode that allows one-click image sharing with the subjects, because the camera recognizes the facial images of the people being photographed and matches them using your contacts image database. The camera captures 1080p-resolution video of course, and for the first time in a Samsung device we have an image stabilizer for video recording. The image stabilizer also works when the 720p resolution front camera is used.
The camera's panorama function has also been improved, and now when the recording is activated, a preview of the panorama is shown at the bottom of the screen. When the recording ends, the camera renders this preview into a single image.
The Galaxy S III image quality compared to the Note is slightly sharper, the image compression algorithm of the S III has clearly been tweaked. We will publish more examples and image comparisons once we have the final version of the software in our hands.
The burst mode is excellent, especially when capturing fast-moving objects.
On launch day, Samsung releases a series of accessories which have already been mentioned, C Pen and AllShare Cast Dongle, and additionally: TPU plastic protective covers, a desktop docking station with a 3.5 mm audio output, a battery dock, and an MHL-adapter for HDMI output.
Also found in accessories is a Flip Cover case with its own integrated battery cover.
As I already said in my summary of the London announcement event, the Samsung Galaxy S III is an excellent extension of the S-series and even though the hardware has only experienced a small evolutionary step forward, the software side of things has undergone a revolution, thanks to the increased power reserves. This brings the unit to a new level, because the device is also just incredibly smooth and fast. It makes the SGS2 feel and look antique, as well as making my own Note feel slow and rigid, and that device is by no means a snail. Strangely enough, my wallet has begun to feel hot in my pocket, and for the first time in a long time I have felt interest in browsing the online shops of carriers.
During our weekend of testing, I found only one thing to complain about. The capacitive buttons were a little too sensitive, especially when shooting with the camera it was easy to accidentally press them, but this is a problem that can be solved in the software, and it may well be that in the final version, the problem does not exist. For those looking for a new smartphone, SGS III is the number one choice.
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Visit the source by clicking here, some good pictures and sample videos to be found there!
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Many thanks for the translation effort, and greetings from a fellow scandinavian.
The link has something about S Memo, what are they saying?
Was he complaining? Because he looked like he was struggling with it a little.
Thanks in advance!
redder95 said:
The link has something about S Memo, what are they saying?
Was he complaining? Because he looked like he was struggling with it a little.
Thanks in advance!
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He wrote that people who own GNote shouldn't worry, because c-pen for sgs3 isn't nearly as accurate. It lacks pressure sensitivity and was just slight improvement over using your fingers.
Kiahnlliya said:
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Hi Kiahnlliya,
Thanks for translating my article
Just one thing, we are Androidsuomi, eventhough it translates to Androidfinland, and we do indeed have the Androidfinland.fi domain, the sites name should not be translated.
Thank you very much for the effort!
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Geengeld said:
He wrote that people who own GNote shouldn't worry, because c-pen for sgs3 isn't nearly as accurate. It lacks pressure sensitivity and was just slight improvement over using your fingers.
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Juuri näin!
(excatly what I said!)
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
m_carleone82 said:
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
• Multitasking gestures
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Wow... very stright forward. I hope Microsoft will read your suggestion and build an update as soon as possible
My two cents:
Very detailed, however, have to reply to some of these.
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it. - Again, whats the big deal?! It was nice on my android phone, but I really dont miss it. The live tiles take care of all my notification issues.
• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered. - Isn't it?! Just press the letter, and you get a list of the letter, tap it and it takes you there. Very fast in my book!
• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad. - Again, prefrence. Don't really use google apps that much, so not missing them.
• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively. - yea, thats one thing I wouldn't mind seeing.
• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build. - Haven't tried using GPS when in airplane mode. NEver switch my phone to Airplane mode.
• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color. - Yea, I guess, don't really notice that.
• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application. - Haven't used Skype yet, maybe one day.
• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted. -Dont have that app.
• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way. - Yea, that could be alot easier to handle.
• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase -Again, don't really notice that. I don't let my emails pile up to the point I need to select all to get rid of them. Once I read, they are filed or deleted. No need to leave them there taking up space.
• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.-Not using Nokia, so not sure about this one.
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off. - I don't think this is a possibility with any system, phone, or OS. Once the phone is off, its off. Now, if your turning your phone to sleep, or hibernate, then it should still work. Otherwise, powered off is powered off. Thats like wanting your car off, but as soon as you get in and hit the gas it magically comes to life and starts driving.
• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind. - Yea, that would be nice, but I don't miss it.
• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain. - Again, knowing what is sucking up your battery is a nice touch, and although I thought it was usefull when I had an android, I don't miss it. My 8X doesnt suck up enough battery power to be a concern.
• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords. - That would be nice!
• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything! - You would have to talk to the app creater, thats not something controled by Windows. And I find no matter what I am doing, hitting the back button once, away goes keyboard. Every app lets me do that.
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps - Yes, local search would be nice, not just web
• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram - Dont use it
• Multitasking gestures - Good lord, don't need it! Simple is the way!
• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey, - Sorry
• Dropbox would be nice addition - Again, don't use it
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized - Yea, that would be nice
• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics. - Uhmm, don't know about this one
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile. - Thats why I like HTC!
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be. - Again, talk to the app creator, not windows.
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu. - Yea, thats true!
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
So thats my two cents!
If the keyboard is displayed simply press the back Button and it will be hidden. Works in any App.
As for the Live Tiles changing Color automatically with changes of the theme color. It is possible to be done with transparent Images but due to the problematic nature of saving those dynamically in WP7 most Devs render an Image with the current Background Color and Display that on the tile. If you want that bevhavior to change contact the developer.
The Alarm doesn't work when the device is turned off on Android or iOS as well. Symbian was the only notable exception of a Smartphone OS that did Support it. As for a wrong auto-completed word: simply tap the word and select your original Input or another Suggestion. Works for me without Problems.
If you enter Settings and look at phone Memory and then tap onto the bar that Displays how much free space you currently have it opens up a detailed view on what is taking how much Memory. At least it does on my Lumia 920.
As for the Button "Show Wifi Password" - it works similarily to the Show Password Buttons in Windows 8. They exist to allow you to have a look at the Password that you just entered/are just entering to check it for typing errors. It does work then. After you saved the Password you won't be able to retrieve it in this way for security reasons. The Buttons are not broken but work as designed.
I won't answer all the other Points. I agree with some but disagree with others but I wanted to provide some help and some context on what can be done and why some things behave the way they do.
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a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe) - I always wondered what this was for. It never mattered to me how long I spoe with someone, I am not paying by the minute. The fact that its not here is a bonus for me.
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I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
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• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good. - I use skydrive for my photos, and its easy to set up custom folders. Security key should be your phones security password.
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Great idea, but it would be nice to create folders on the phone instead of finding someplace else - computer, web browser, etc. All photo folder customization needs to be done outside of the app. It would be nice to set a default folder when taking pictures or saving pictures. Everything just goes into Saved Pictures or Camera Roll and then has to be organized later.
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• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds. - No, if you set your phones settings once to include vibration, just tap your volume once, the toast notificaiton will pop up, press where it says "vibrate & ring", it will switch to "vibrate". Thats what I do. One volume rock and one tap, I am silent.
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His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
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• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy. - You shouldb e able to set that when you initially start or download the app, it asks if they can use your location. Otherwise, I don't have any problem with it, got nothing to hide, so you can see where I go anytime!
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Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
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• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently.. - Uhmm, I hate having to shake my phone to make it do anything. If I have to shake it, then something is wrong with it. Just my opinion.
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I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
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• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.- I am able to watch, listen to, whatever with all my local downloaded music and movies. No need for a 3rd party app.
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Nokia Music is allowed to store items in the WP8 music store, but other 3rd party apps aren't. This is an inconsistency that really needs to be fixed. While you may not use 3rd party apps, there are a lot of nice ones out there and having to figure out workarounds to move the music around is a bit annoying. Personally I haven't had a need to worry about it but locking up the music storage is limiting our choices on what we can do with our own music files.
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• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical. - This would be a nice touch, but not one I feel is a mandatory missing item. I can live without it.
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(laugh) I have to agree on needing this one! I frequently try to use my phone lying on my side and it's so obnoxious with the rotation. Would definitely be a nice option!
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• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series.. - I only rebooted the day I purchased it, otherwise, no issues there!
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I see rebooting within 3rd party apps more often now that developers aren't required to use managed code. This is one of the drawbacks of native code. I think the OS should be more capable of protecting against that though. An app really shouldn't kill the OS so easily just because the app is buggy.
On that same note, sometimes when a app crashes you can't open it again unless you restart the OS. This leads me to believe that something is still retained in OS memory. WP8 is essentially like a 1.0 version of the OS though, so there are sure to be issues like this initially. Even though the kernel is the NT kernel, it's new for ARM processors, so it's still a brand new branch of the kernel.
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• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl - Unfortunatly, all my pics are decent and safe for work
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He's talking about the people hub, not the photo hub. If you have your phone connected to Facebook or LinkedIn, the People hub automatically pulls the profile pictures for your contacts. You can argue that you only have contacts on your phone for people that will always have decent, acceptable profile pictures, but can you be 100% sure that will happen? Your choices right now are all or none. You can manually set a profile picture for every contact but that kind of defeats the neatness of the People hub cycling people. It would be nice if you could create a "Favorite People" group of people that you want the hub to show, as well as an "Excluded" group of people that include your pain in the neck brother that's always posting weird profile pics! Similar to the "Favorite Pics" in the photo hub.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
We've all learned workarounds for some of the items on this list and can say that we don't really care, but the truth is, if we have to constantly come up with workarounds, then the OS is missing something. Call Duration, Better Live Tile customization (such as the People Hub idea), better/easier sound/ring customization, etc.
Also, on the Live tiles. I think the medium tile is too big and the small tile isn't big enough for any detail. Coming from WP7, I'm so glad we don't have to have all "medium tiles" now, especially with a large (4.3+) screen. I just don't know how best to deal with this without making it too complicated.
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I would like to have this option. Sometimes when I'm on a business call I need to know how long I was on the call for. You can say to use a timer or check the time before and after the call but that's extra work that the phone should be able to handle. There's enough other things to juggle during a busy day! Right now I just have to go online and check my account after 24 hours to record my time.
ACtually, I found that it does time the call, when I just hung up with my wife, it showed call duration just above her name, so I would say it does it. that being said, it doesn't 'record' it for later retrieval, so I see the point your making.
His point here is turning off vibrate, not turning off sound. Most of the time I like having vibrate on but during a meeting, not only do I want the phone silent, but I also want vibrate off. No way to do this unless you manually go into settings.
Gotcha, but if you don't use sound, strictly vibrate, then instead of turning on sound and vibrate in the settings once, you would only turn on vibrate. Then, you could either silence or vibrate when you select the toast. Of course, if you want sound and vibrate, yes, you would have to go into settings.
Yes, the first time you use an app it asked you about location. How do you turn off (or on?) that permission after the fact, or see what applications you gave location permissions to? You have to uninstall and reinstall the app to cycle the location permission. Furthermore, reinstalling the app typically loses any data you have. This isn't quite the experience that you should expect. Windows 8 allows you to toggle permissions of Metro apps from the charms bar. No such ability exists in WP8.
I am not sure about that. I just checked 3 apps and could turn off location services. So maybe its app based on wether you can or cannot undo location services.
I agree on the shaking thing, but it would be nice to have some sort of undo. Occassionally I accidentally hit the wrong word or highlight a word (or sentence) and hit a letter instead of the copy. Suddenly, everything I typed is gone! Even a single-level undo would be nice in cases like this.
I guess I am lucky, haven't seen the need for that.
Many of these items are similar choice things that would make the overall system better. While I don't agree with having the boatload of customization that Android has (way too messy), I think some simple additions would be nice.
On the subject of lock codes... I understand that some people would want additional security for photos or messages and things like that, but I think having separate codes for all of that is too much. If you need to be that secret, just lock your phone and don't let anyone use it!
I like the idea of the kid's corner and would like MS to expand on that to allow you to create a sandbox that would allow someone to use your phone, play games, make phone calls, without having your security code. Right now, if you have a security code, the kid's corner also has the same security code. Kids are smart! If you're unlocking your phone in front of them, they WILL notice your code eventually. Even the Android "move your finger around" security is a joke. It's fairly easy to watch someone (with the phone turned away from you) and pretty much tell by movement of their hand.
I agree, I remember my daughter on her kindle was surprised I could access it. She was surprised how easy it was to monitor her swipe to get an idea of her access. What I don't like about kids corner is the turn off to access your stuff. Should have the same ability to swipe back to the lock screen
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See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
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See my responses in bold.
But I do have to say coming from a flashaholic Thunderbolt, the fact that I 'can't do as much' is a breath of fresh air. It is just nice having a simple, easy uncluttered OS to deal with. I had a friend running an TB unrooted, and he went with an S3 about the same time I went to WP8, and watching him use his, I really cringe looking at his screen. I look at mine and think - Ah, simpleton, thats me! And I am happy! Its all right here, no need to open this or click that to get to there. Just turn on, unlock, and blip, there it is.
You are correct that in a sense, this is WP8 V1, and I am sure as it gets more and more active, we will begin to see some of those simple things come into play.
My only real gripe, how difficult it is to make a playlist. But at least what I do have sounds fantastic!
My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone!
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Just a few more comments... I think the location service you can't change are the ones that use it only for ads. I've checked a few and don't see anywhere to toggle it. I don't mind ads but I'm not a big fan of targeted ads. Much like ad cookies, it's just really a personal preference.
Thanks for the tip on the call duration.
I agree with you as well! Having a phone that just *works* and is simple to use has been great! I wouldn't trade it for any OS right now. I look forward to next week and MWC to see what the next updates/phones might be!
m_carleone82 said:
1- Windows Phone 8 Lackings
a) Items that Must be in a Mobile OS which Windows Phone Missing
• Call duration information is not exist in OS (I still can't believe)
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Yeah, would love that too!
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• There is No Notification center. If you miss it to see. You miss it.
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They say it's coming. We'll see
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• Folderizing those bunch list of application list cannot be scrolled faster. And I believe it should have been foldered.
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Press the alphabet. Addressed by jerrya
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• Photos doesn’t have custom folders. It supposed to be added for customization and also a security key would be good.
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I think the current way is good. Addressed by jerrya
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• There is no Sound profiles center you need to close vibrating in a long way from settings/sounds.
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Yeah. Definitely a shortcoming.
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• Google apps are missing including YouTube at all. No Google apps is something really to be sad.
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Whose fault is that?
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• Percentage for battery level is not exist natively.
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Uhm, yes it does?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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• GPS toggle does not exist so location finding is not working in airplane mod. GPS doesn't work even if you downloaded offline maps and turned wifi on. You need to have cellular signal to make GPS on. So definitely GPS toggle must be build.
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Uhm, again, GPS works in airplane mode.
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• Location center should be letting user to choose which application can use which not.. It is just one option to be on n off..
And somehow periodically I see location icon on top even those map and location background are fully limited, and I can't see what application is currently using my location. And this makes me feel phone is going against my privacy.
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Whenever you launch an app, the app will require permission for location use. It's one of the requirement for submission into the marketplace I believe.
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• When theme color is changed, OS based native tiles is changing color instantly but the Tiles that have been created by applications, doesn't change color unless being run once. And you need to open all those apps to update new theme color.
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Uhm, its due to the way the API is implemented. And why would you want apps running in the background just to update the accent colour?
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• Skype is fully buggy that doesn't let video chat. Neither doesn't work in background fully online. Cannot call online iphone users etc.. It may not be considered as developed application.
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It works for me.
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• Whatsapp is buggy. Developer said that it’s because of windows platform and porting issues. If you lock screen in whatsapp there won't be any new notification, you need to check it manual. This is so annoying. So after you write you need to leave application. And lock phone to receive notifications. Also It can't send any picture from screen shots. Additional when you return back to application it always needs to be loaded and makes you waited 3 seconds every time which is a huge time that being wasted.
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Whatsapp background notification works for me, with my phone locked or not. And the devs are lazy. I heard they are working for a optimised WP8 version with Nokia.
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• Cannot close applications. Windows Phone OS cannot close any application. You need to hammer back button 15 times to resume beginning. But somehow also it’s not enough in some cases. There are some apps that asks to be exit and needs confirmations. Some apps directly being closed , some apps goes back inside its navigation like IE n Flickr until start page and then being closed. So Windows phone does not have ability to close app in one standard way.
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Double tap back to close, I believe.
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• In the messaging and, email There is no “Select all option” ... u need to select one by one each mail or message to erase
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3 dots -> delete thread.
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• I don't know outside my country but in computer when I open find my phone service that never works. It doesn't work at all. Even it is turned on settings. Nokia asked me to ask it Microsoft. And Microsoft didn't reply me. I think for some countries location services doesn't work. In Turkey it does not work.
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@winphonesupport <-- Tweet them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Phone alarm should have been working even phone is turned off.
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Not really possible with current gen smartphones.
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• Text writing should have undo with shaking, sometimes when using shortcut words over keyboard if you press wrong word u cannot go back and fix it so need to re write all. Shake left should make undo which is not exist currently..
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No thanks. Also, to correct words, just press on them.
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• Phone storage does not show you size of application music and pictures. Just there is one cumulative bar which is so useless to show overall instead of separating each kind.
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Again, it does.
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• Where I spend the battery? U won’t know where. This should be adapted because there are lots of people discussing it in forums that battery levels are normal if not for what reason. And since it is new OS and we all end users are behaved like testers, we need to make, things certain.
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Yeah, would love that also.
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• Wi-Fi saved passwords or rest of other password doesn't being seen again even there is a thick that says “show password”. There is this option but completely in functional and doesn’t let you to see passwords.
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Security. Show password only shows password you typed that instant, not stored ones.
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• 3rd party music or video downloader apps makes its work. But those downloaded music’s are not being able to reach from native music applications. It just stays in the 3rd party applications library and can be reach from it. Native windows music player should have been reach all mp3 which is downloaded.
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Eh?
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• Rotation option doesn't exist. It is mandatory to be rotated if u hold it horizontally. And it makes phone so un stable in bed when writing. That is so annoying that phone doesn't has this option. It is mandatory to use it vertical.
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Yeah, should be implemented.
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• When typing text in a text box, there is no standard to how to hide keyboard. Every app works different. You cannot say a certain way to hide keyboard, and scroll to see what has been written. Also scrolling doesn't have a standard way either. Also, Text assisting, words are appearing in some apps, but not appearing in some. It doesn’t have standard too. There should have been one way for everything!
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Damn right. However, these settings are configured on an application level. For example, while typing an URL, autocorrect would be useless.
m_carleone82 said:
• Physical search button should be configured to run a search application which can be change into Google yahoo etc.. Also search button same time should have been looking email contents and apps
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Uh huh. You do realise this is a MSFT product? It's like asking Android to provide bing search. Phone search would be nice though.
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• Random reboots. I can't believe that happens almost every 3 days once and it has been reported more often, with some series..
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Never happened to me before.
m_carleone82 said:
b) Optional Additions
• There is no Instagram
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Again, whose fault is that?
m_carleone82 said:
• Multitasking gestures
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Would be nice
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• Unable to find enough local apps for turkey,
• Dropbox would be nice addition
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Whose fault is that? . . .
m_carleone82 said:
• Lock button and keyboard click sound is bad for me. Should be personalized
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Turn it off?
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• Even it has graphics card, which game, exist to use it. We almost don't have a nice 3d game, to be impressed with graphics.
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Whose fault is that?
m_carleone82 said:
• There is no live tile that shows clock, and date same as HTC does. Also it would be good if native clock app live tile enhanced including selected city times rotating in tile.
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Get a HTC phone if you really want that. Or enjoy your Nokia exclusives. Damn, I really want them.
m_carleone82 said:
• Since start menu is customizable with a theme color , all applications must have been force a icon color weather is native or theme color and user should pick it up how to be.
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Ask developers to implement that. API available.
m_carleone82 said:
• Screen brightness is just tree Level doesn't let to make a fine setting. And long way to reach from settings,menu.
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More fine tuning would be good. And hard to reach? Seriously. . .
m_carleone82 said:
• People hub tile should be have an option to show people profile pics or not. Sometimes in formal situations, on the phone stupid profile pics makes me shame.. Also favorite persons should,be included. I don't,want to see some,of ppl there,and I don't,get in,what logic ppl hub selects those ppl
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Ok... You can remove profile pics.
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• There is Turkish language support,
There is Turkish keyboard
There is Turkish keyboard assistant
But there, is no voice command for, Turkish language. Downloadable content for languages is just a few. This technology is not completed for many.
Not only voice command but also
Bing search doesn't exist on my native language.
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Bug MSFT I guess
Windows Phone 8 was blessed as a Business OS. But thats not true!
There are missing still some important features like:
- Better calender view (weekly view)
- VPN
- signing e-mails ( S/MIME)
-encypt and decrypt mails
We are currentyl using WP7/WP8 (Lumia 900/Lumia 820) and Blackberry Devices in our Company. Since signing E-Mail is a must have in our Company we are not able to read our mail or attachemnts on our WP Devices.
With every other devices like Android, Iphone and Blackkberry is this possible but not with a Windows Phone 7/8. 2 year before i had talked to MS about this problem (good relationship in Austria) but there is still no solution for this.
I´m so sorry for this but we have now to Switch back to Blackberrys and Android Phones... :crying:
We are now waiting for the new BB Generation. In the next weeks i will upgrade our BES to BES 10
Hopefully MS will release this functionalities with the next update...
Privately i will stay with Windows Phone...
its missing an Office Suite with any functionality at all
How is Microsoft not going to have an Office suite, when both Android & iPhone have Office suites which rival the Full Office suite, both creating & editing MICROSOFT PPT, PPTX, DOC, DOCX, XLS, & XLSX, with more functions than you can imagine ...
microcrap includes a blank office page with 2 retarded options and no other functionality at all
can someone please shoot those people so they can rehire smarter employees?
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i need separate volume for ringtone / media / etc . (like android)
Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
1. VPN
2. Task Manager
3. App to SD (For any device SDCard Support)
4. Read first post...
Sent from my Windows Phone 8S by HTC using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I was going to buy a Wp8 Device but i just read this thread and i say to my self. what the hell is going on .
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Things that WP 8 needs from my point of view as a user (seperate from IT policies that can be implimented). I have a Nokia 810 btw...
1. Alphanumeric password support. That 4 digit pin crap has GOT TO GO.
2. Full device encryption ahh the good old days of WM 6.5.X
3. Device search
4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
5. ability to choose background colors other than black or white in addition to more foreground color choices
6. Can we please crank up the volume of the handset? how I miss my HD2 and it's annoyingly loud alarm clock...
7. Task Manager anyone? Pressing back all the time is kind of stupid...
Lilttle things I would like Nokia to include:
1. Compass
2. Flashlight
3. Ability to connect to my phone at Wireless N speeds with my PC (G? really? in 2K13? come on now...LTE will be able to completely saturate that interface)
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Aside from colors and task manager(which is not needed anyway), you need a heavy dose of "learn to use a windows phone" my friend.
In fact, over half of the things "missing" are present and accounted for, you just need to look closer.
So, instead of QQing, how about you look in the phone settings, or...you know...USE the marketplace?
app2sd
some customization options
more popular apps (for services like catch notes, which i missing so much on wp8)/or more indie games from iphone/android devs ;/
normal SKYPE.. oh microsoft
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4. A DEDICATED PHONEBOOK. I do not want all of my facebook, skype, etc contacts listed in with my phone book. That just plain sucks. To avoid this I use the seperate FB and Skype and TANGO (when available) apps.
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Doesn't this work on your phone?
Settings, Applications, people, filter my contact list
And then uncheck everything except your primary contact list?
I find the biggest issue for me as a windows phone user [from the HD7 to the 810] is the still remarkably poor offerings. So apps aren't even present like Hulu, some are covered by third party providers [youtube - metrotube] and there is a good selection of games. The app market is the single biggest handy cap that the OS has atm and that's needs to be fixed.
Apps I use;
Battery Meter Pro [Provides a live tile with icon and % of battery]
Metrotube [an actual youtube client not a browser shortcut]
Amazing Weather HD [provides a live tile with updated weather]
Facebook for WP8 [more common android looking facebook app]
MediaFire Manager [file storage]
Skydrive [MS provided - there are dropbox apps too I just don't use it]
PinInterest [an actual client for viewing PinInterest]
PAypal
Ebay
Skype [VoIP]
Snes8x [The only emulator atm]
tumblr.viewer [an actual client to view your tumblr account - no downloads though]
Weave News Reader [like androids pulse news reader]
WiFi Live Tile [provides a live tile with information on wifi strength and goes straight to settings]
Tankopedia [World of Tanks information - wiki as a client]
World of Tanks Assistant
WoW Companion [MoP Compatiable WoW Armory app]
Touchmouse [makes the phone a mouse for computers]
Flashlight [Pro version, gives a live tile to quickly turn the flash on]
Crackle [like hulu, not so much selection though]
BBC News
Cellular Live Tiles [gives signal strength, Data info and goes directly to settings when clicked]
Netflix
The three apps I am missing atm is Hulu, a stand alone movie player and Teamspeak.
Battery lasts most of my days use, with an occasional charging here and there. The rest of the settings are easy enough to get too, the letter management in the app list makes it very quick to get to apps you want [just got to get used to it] and very seldom see a reboot [about as often as my Samsung S3 does actually.
I'm have slight buyers remorse, but I have a few more days till I can't return it for a full refund. I hoping to find out if any of the issue I have with the Note 3 or more accurately touchwiz will be able to be solved. I'm coming from a history of running customs ROMS on my galaxy S1 and galaxy S2, most of the time cyaogenmod. Lucky I find touchwiz has improved but here are my over all gripes:
Can't change the vibration pattern for notifications, most importantly text messages and emails. You can create customs patterns but they are only for calls. This is my biggest problem right now. And the fact that clearing a message from the notification bar doesn't mark it as read is annoying.
I would love on screen buttons, with this much screen restate it's a great phone for on screen buttons, I also find getting low enough to press the capacitive buttons with my thumb and still holding the phone a bit difficult and I think I would have no trouble if there was on screen buttons. - SoftKey Enabler, requires root- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fatedevgroup.softkeyenabler&feature=search_result
Home buttons wakes the phone - Fixable by mod or wanam http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477150
Double home press open magazine - Settings in Magazine, gesture disable can be done by freezing magazine in titanium
Replace S Voice with google voice. - Freeze with titanium then use double tap to get to google voice
Remove all toggles from notification area, have all the toggles in the toggle pane
Remove the persitant icons from the task bar (blocking mode, smart stay, NFC)
All logs in phone log - fixable with app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.log.converter.ics
I really got used and liked the pop up/quick message window option that cyaogenmod had. I would like that along with the removal of chat bubbles.
I also liked black/Holo design, I sure this can and will come some how. Also we'll see how kitkat ends up looking...
How likely is it that my gripes with touchwiz can be fixed, yet still stay on touchwiz framework due to not wanting to lose functionality? I am aware it will require root and most likely a custom ROM, but if I was able to start out with just some modifications to stock rom, that might be a good start. I might find out but 1-4 are my biggest complaints. I love the note 3's hardware, but I'm hoping the roms/touchwiz won't push me toward the nexus 5....
One additional question, all these model numbers are confusing as hell. I have the N900W8, will that hinder my ability to use custom roms? Is it an equivalent to another model number? (X-Note is the only roms I've seen so far the explicitly says its compatible with the 900W8)
Answer:
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Since Canadian users can flash T-Mobile and N9005 ROM.
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From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497263
All suggestions welcome.
Edited with solutions in blue. I haven't tried them yet
If you open Magazine and hit menu, then choose Settings, you can turn the double home press off from in there.
The swipe from the bottom gesture can't be disabled short of doing something like freezing Magazine with Titanium Backup.
bnevets27 said:
I'm have slight buyers remorse, but I have a few more days till I can't return it for a full refund. I hoping to find out if any of the issue I have with the Note 3 or more accurately touchwiz will be able to be solved. I'm coming from a history of running customs ROMS on my galaxy S1 and galaxy S2, most of the time cyaogenmod. Lucky I find touchwiz has improved but here are my over all gripes:
I would love on screen buttons, with this much screen restate it's a great phone for on screen buttons, I also find getting low enough to press the capacitive buttons with my thumb and still holding the phone a bit difficult and I think I would have no trouble if there was on screen buttons
Can't change the vibration pattern for notifications, most importantly text messages and emails. You can create customs patterns but they are only for calls.
Home buttons wakes the phone - I did read somewhere this was able to be disabled
Double home press open magazine
Replace S Voice with google voice.
Remove all toggles from notification area, have all the toggles in the toggle pane
Remove the persitant icons from the task bar (blocking mode, smart stay, NFC)
All logs in phone log - fixable with app, easiest one yet.
How likely is it that my gripes with touchwiz can be fixed, yet still stay on touchwiz framework due to not wanting to lose functionality? I am aware it will require root and most likely a custom ROM, but if I was able to start out with just some modifications to stock rom, that might be a good start. I might find out but 1-4 are my biggest complaints. I love the note 3's hardware, but I'm hoping the roms/touchwiz won't push me toward the nexus 5....
One additional question, all these model numbers are confusing as hell. I have the N900W8, will that hinder my ability to use custom roms? Is it an equivalent to another model number? (X-Note is the only roms I've seen so far the explicitly says its compatible with the 900W8)
All suggestions welcome.
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would love to know the solutions to this list as well!
wilflare said:
would love to know the solutions to this list as well!
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A fwlew of these things are easily fixed with xposed wanam module. You need to be rooted though. As for Google voice, freeze svoice (maybe you can just clear defaults, but I froze it) then when you double tap home, you'll be given options in what you want that to do.
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I would love on screen buttons, with this much screen restate it's a great phone for on screen buttons, I also find getting low enough to press the capacitive buttons with my thumb and still holding the phone a bit difficult and I think I would have no trouble if there was on screen buttons
Remove all toggles from notification area, have all the toggles in the toggle pane
All logs in phone log - fixable with app, easiest one yet.
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looking how to change these. hmm
Hi folks, I recently got the update notification and updated my D6603 to Lollipop. I do like Lollipop's new features, but there are a few things I miss from the previous version:
Slide from left to right in the middle to unlock. I used to be able to hold the phone with one hand and slide with my thumb, but now it's from bottom to top. The motion is harder to do, but it's something to get used to.
Remove all from recent apps menu. I cannot find a button to remove all apps in one press. It's not there anymore.
Wishful features/changes:
THE CAMERA! I don't see any improvements on the camera. Still smudgy photos and pink issue with white background, etc. Going through the picture thread is still a disappoint. My hopes for this fix with the update has been lost.
Remove Small apps completely from Recent apps menu. I have never use this and it takes up space on the bottom of the screen, especially when flipping through Recent apps cards. Got this removed, thanks to lu99ke!
That's all I can think of for now. Got yours? Please share!
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Hi folks, I recently got the update notification and updated my D6603 to Lollipop. I do like Lollipop's new features, but there are a few things I miss from the previous version:
Slide from left to right in the middle to unlock. I used to be able to hold the phone with one hand and slide with my thumb, but now it's from bottom to top. The motion is harder to do, but it's something to get used to.
Remove all from recent apps menu. I cannot find a button to remove all apps in one press. It's not there anymore.
Wishful features/changes:
Remove Small apps completely from Recent apps menu. I have never use this and it takes up space on the bottom of the screen, especially when flipping through Recent apps cards.
That's all I can think of for now. Got yours? Please share!
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Hey Hanime
Your wish has been granted!! There is a way to remove small apps from the recent screen - no root required! You just need to be able to run and ADB command ...
I can't post the link but google "remove small apps z3" and you will see a post in the android central forums..
Look for comments on this post as with lollipop, you need to use "hide" instead of block.
See attached pic of it on my phone... Looks HEAPS better.
Cheers
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Hey Hanime
Your wish has been granted!! There is a way to remove small apps from the recent screen - no root required! You just need to be able to run and ADB command ...
I can't post the link but google "remove small apps z3" and you will see a post in the android central forums..
Look for comments on this post as with lollipop, you need to use "hide" instead of block.
See attached pic of it on my phone... Looks HEAPS better.
Cheers
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Lu99ke, thank you for this! I will give this a whirl when I get home tonight. Awesome!
NP!
Sound Mode in Quick Settings. I can't mute calls / messages anymore while listening to music as it only affects the media volume.. I would have to go the long way over settings. Is there any work around? Preferably not a widget.
LED notification light in Silent mode
If you switch your phone to silent mode the LED notification light you will not be on If you got a notification.. This not Sony fault
very annoying
Notification bar icons. Not only are they pretty ugly designs but they're also varying in sizes and don't seem to follow any kind of consistent theme.
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If you switch your phone to silent mode the LED notification light you will not be on If you got a notification.. This not Sony fault
very annoying
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You still get the notification light if you set it to vibrate. I rarely use silent as I think vibrate is well, silent enough.
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You still get the notification light if you set it to vibrate. I rarely use silent as I think vibrate is well, silent enough.
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For me I hate vibration a lot !! I usually disable everything called "vibration" in my phone
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For me I hate vibration a lot !! I usually disable everything called "vibration" in my phone
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Speaking of vibration, how do I get rid of the vibration on keypress of the home row buttons on the bottom (including back and recent apps buttons)?
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You still get the notification light if you set it to vibrate. I rarely use silent as I think vibrate is well, silent enough.
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hanime said:
Speaking of vibration, how do I get rid of the vibration on keypress of the home row buttons on the bottom (including back and recent apps buttons)?
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For me I always hide the soft menu keys So I didn't try that
hanime said:
Speaking of vibration, how do I get rid of the vibration on keypress of the home row buttons on the bottom (including back and recent apps buttons)?
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Settings > Sounds and Notifications > Other sounds
freddy1991 said:
Settings > Sounds and Notifications > Other sounds
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Thank you very much!
I noticed the physical camera button opens the camera app with a chime sound now. I turned it off via the camera settings (Sound = Off), but it still chimes. The touch version opens the camera silently. Anybody know how to turn the chime off?
Also, on the lock screen, it says "No Service" even when I have service. And it continues to say so until a good restart or when I download the "Internet Settings" again. Normally, it should show my carrier, T-Mobile. Anyone having this issue?
My Xperia with Facebook app does not work. I have it and had put my FB account but when I want to share a picture there is no opiton to use "Xperia with Facebook"
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Also, on the lock screen, it says "No Service" even when I have service. And it continues to say so until a good restart or when I download the "Internet Settings" again. Normally, it should show my carrier, T-Mobile. Anyone having this issue?
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Yes. But i find it's a good indicator whether the phone rebootet itself again or not.
I miss
landscape in tv launcher with mhl
I miss location based wifi
hanime said:
I noticed the physical camera button opens the camera app with a chime sound now. I turned it off via the camera settings (Sound = Off), but it still chimes. The touch version opens the camera silently. Anybody know how to turn the chime off?
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Didn't found how to, but it was the same in KK.
i missing unlock via Bluetooth, a loved this feature on kitkat via my smardband 10, on lollipop there is only smartlock an this is sh**y, because you can not set a distance for the feature to unlock.