A gerneral question about roms and stuff - Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

whats the use of a stock rom, and how would i use it?

Useful for recovering a bricked device using Odin or Kies. But there isn't one available for the SM-S920L and probably never will be as this is a straight talk phone and they simply will not release the rom and neither will samsung.

bfoos said:
Useful for recovering a bricked device using Odin or Kies. But there isn't one available for the SM-S920L and probably never will be as this is a straight talk phone and they simply will not release the rom and neither will samsung.
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Sorry for the amateur question but in cases like this, when the company won't release the Rom, can someone with the tools/knowledge, extract the stock Rom directly from the phone?

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[Q] Safe to flash or wait?

Picked my Galaxy I9000 s up 3 days ago, sort of happy with it, I unlocked the sim and rooted it...
Coming from a G1 Android these phones seem a nightmare to change Roms, reading through these forums it appears 50 / 50 if it will end up bricked.
There seems to be more horror stories of messed up phones than people actually being able to use their phones after updates.
I used to change the rom on the G1 daily as I wanted, drop into recovery, nandroid backup, select rom zip, flash, reboot voila.
Will there ever be an easy way to flash a ROM on these phones?
I am beginning to think I should have grabbed a desire or HD2 as they are really easy to hack.
all the methods are easy.
Odin is easy
ROM manage is easy
Kies is easy
Heimdall is easy
what else do you need?
as long as you have the 3 button download mode working then you'll be safe
Allgamer,
Its all easy once you know what your doing, on the G1 it was easy because I knew hopw to do it....
On this its all these numbers, my phone I have:
PDA: I9000XXJF4
PHONE: I9000XXJF3
CSC: I9000TMUJE6
After reading up on this for 3 days theres so much conflicting information it gets confusing, I have read:
Dont go from you country codes, XXJF3 means I have to stay with XXJ** but theres not many XXJ`s about.
Lots of people report that after flashing they lose their 3 button recovery option.
Rom Manager is showing me ZERO roms for the I9000
I Tried the Kies windows registry hack but got nothing offered
Not seen Heimdall, thought that was not released yet, I will search.
I hate asking this stuff, I know you get the same questions over and over again and must get frustrating for you so I can only apoligise.
If my phone was on contract I would not worry but this is a cash purchase and as such I dont have anything to fall back on.
Cheers for the reply,
TrOjAn
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
AllGamer said:
all the methods are easy.
Odin is easy
ROM manage is easy
Kies is easy
Heimdall is easy
what else do you need?
as long as you have the 3 button download mode working then you'll be safe
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err. WRONG! a lot of users completely brick they'r phones. unless you are at least 99% sure what you are doing, i suggest you stay back.
wait for Froyo....
swatsqad said:
err. WRONG! a lot of users completely brick they'r phones. unless you are at least 99% sure what you are doing, i suggest you stay back.
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erm as long as you know what you're doing you can't brick the phone if you've download mode working ... which implies the former anyway oO
so if you've download mode and you don't know what you're doing.. it doesn't help you uh ;D

TOTAL N00B: Where do I start?

I have the SCH-I400 (hardware version i400.0.6) , still with stock software:
Firmware version: 2.1-update1
Baseband version: S:i400.0.6V.DL17
Kernel version: 2.6.29
Build number: SCH-I400.DL17
I would like to upgrade it to Android 2.2 (or higher) with minimal risk of bricking it.
Where do I start?
Are there special tools that I need?
Is there a difference between "firmware" and "ROM"?
Which is the latest stable firmware/ROM that you can recommend?
Is it possible to try a particular firmware/ROM without replacing the current firmware/ROM?
What do I need to do to save the current stock firmware/ROM so that I can restore it later (if I ever want to).
I am basically clueless at this point, so any tip or link would be very much appreciated.
Thank You!
There's answers to most of your questions throughout the forums. Look around.
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Well, you can start with the search bar.
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Well, you can start with the search bar.
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samuelhadams said:
There's answers to most of your questions throughout the forums. Look around.
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That's what I did before posting my question but the best I could find was this HOWTO for Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10.
My understanding is that instructions that are good for one brand/model are not necessarily good for another. I couldn't find such a HOWTO for the Samsung Continuum SCH-I400 and I really don't want to brick my phone just to find out that I missed or misunderstood a step. Can you help?
For example, I found in this thread a reference to something called odin:
Is this the recommended way to flash the Samsung Continuum SCH-I400?
Is v1.85 the latest & greatest?
Is it possible to try a particular version without flashing it? (I have almost 8GB of free SD space)
Do I have to root the device before attempting any firmware trial or flash?
Just look in the development section
Literally all of your questions have been answered throughout the forum..
1. you'll want to download odin (or heimdall if you're on mac/linux)
2. firmware is the version your phone is running, and a ROM is a custom OS. for example, you're firmware is 2.1-update1. however, you are using the stock ROM. for the samsung continuum, as far as i know there is only one other ROM on 2.1-update1 (which is the firmware) and that's the debinged/debloated DL17 ROM (which is the custom OS).
3. just go through the development system and look through the ROM's and look at the comments to see if there are any bugs. currently the latest firmware is 2.2 but i don't know if there are any bugs.
4. not quite sure what you mean by that
5. what you're talking about is a nandroid backup. to do a nandroid backup you have to get clockwork recovery. just check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057072
ntien said:
1. you'll want to download odin (or heimdall if you're on mac/linux)
2. firmware is the version your phone is running, and a ROM is a custom OS. for example, you're firmware is 2.1-update1. however, you are using the stock ROM. for the samsung continuum, as far as i know there is only one other ROM on 2.1-update1 (which is the firmware) and that's the debinged/debloated DL17 ROM (which is the custom OS).
3. just go through the development system and look through the ROM's and look at the comments to see if there are any bugs. currently the latest firmware is 2.2 but i don't know if there are any bugs.
4. not quite sure what you mean by that
5. what you're talking about is a nandroid backup. to do a nandroid backup you have to get clockwork recovery. just check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057072
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He is talking about running a ROM off his SD card. That's probably the one unanswered question. From what I know, not you can't.
You have a LOT of reading and research to do before you're ready to do any of this stuff. Read through the Android Development sub-forum.... Then read it again... if anything is confusing, read it again. You can SERIOUSLY mess up your phone if you don't know what you're doing... Once you understand it all, then try it out.
My advice would be to first do research on the terminology. Once you know what words like flash, rom, odin, cwm, cwm cyan vs. yellow, recovery, and what things like a tar.md5, and update.zip, mean and do, it will be a lot easier to understand what you are reading. Google is your friend. Most of what I've learned has come from there. Also, peruse different forums. I understand that this one can get a little techincal for a noob. I still have to scratch my head about half of the time and think about what I'm reading before it makes sense. It will come, slowly. Just save yourself a lot of headache, and read read read, and if you have ANY doubts, find the answer BEFORE you start the process.
This video helps a lot with cwm, and flashing via odin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHpl0s7qhk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Start by googling root and cintinuum and look for addictivetips tutorial and then look for how to install clockwork mod recovery (this was the difficult part imo) should also be at addictivetips. By time your done you should at least be familliar with programs involved and asking troublshoot Q's instead of general "how do I" Q's......
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Thank you all so much! You definitely helped.
TUT
There is a great tutorial on getting to 2.2.2 in the EC07 clean thread in development.
The quickest method ive use so far (i am newbie 2 rootin etc) is download the tool to root 'superoneclick' then youl have to search for the correct flash tool for your device,then download cwm recovery to backup/restore and install your 'mod rom'. Theres some very good roms about on this site,im only on a x1o mini pro came with 2.1 and s.e refused to release any futher updates 4 this model!but its now running either 2.3.9 or 2.3.5 quite smoothly ..made up ,so u should be able to find and try later than 2.3 and choose which rom you prefer.
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smallz2k said:
The quickest method ive use so far (i am newbie 2 rootin etc) is download the tool to root 'superoneclick' then youl have to search for the correct flash tool for your device,then download cwm recovery to backup/restore and install your 'mod rom'. Theres some very good roms about on this site,im only on a x1o mini pro came with 2.1 and s.e refused to release any futher updates 4 this model!but its now running either 2.3.9 or 2.3.5 quite smoothly ..made up ,so u should be able to find and try later than 2.3 and choose which rom you prefer.
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well you dont have to start by rooting your phone... rooted roms flashed by odin work on stock 2.1 thats how i did it... i used superoneclick only once, on ec07 stock. havent had to since, cause i flashed roms with odin/cwm that are rooted and deodexed.

Long story short... is LPY safe to use or not?

well, after several threads on the LPY issue
i hope someone can make some order in this mess and give us (the ppl) an answer on the LPY risk and how to avoid it.
while i myself don't have enough knowledge on the issue i hope someone who does would answer and i will link the answers in the first post (this one)
iakovl said:
well, after several threads on the LPY issue
i hope someone can make some order in this mess and give us (the ppl) an answer on the LPY risk and how to avoid it.
while i myself don't have enough knowledge on the issue i hope someone who does would answer and i will link the answers in the first post (this one)
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Depends who you ask. I say yes, it is safe. The best thing you can do is wait a day or two and see what happens. If there is truly a problem, you will see more than just one brick.
I had a brick la7 or how was it called. Was using stock Rom and upgraded with Kies. **** happens you can't do anything if it has to be.
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Simple answer : The ICS kernel leaks are not safe. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROM. IT IS THE KERNEL.
Long answer : Clockwork doesn't play well with the new kernels... No one knows why. Some people brick... Some don't. I didn't. Chas did.
Real simple answer : If you have to ask, then don't do it.
Just like with the leaked kernels LP5/LP6 ,some people would brick while others are fine.
Just avoid it if you can ,and if you must taste ICS then may I advice you to flash cm9 ,it's far better than the stock in my opinion .
Short answer: maybe..
This is not a leak! It is a official release from Samsung.
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but if you are in germany and get the ota is dangerous too?
I bet a good portion of bricks are user error.
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tyrael64 said:
but if you are in germany and get the ota is dangerous too?
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No, only if you root and wipe.
tyrael64 said:
but if you are in germany and get the ota is dangerous too?
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I don't think that people being in another country be a reason that it bricks for other people or not.
In the end the versions are all the same, just with some modifications. (I mean the versions that are brought out per country)
I have xeu uk unlocked phone and i updated to ics via odin and german update love it note is nippy and so far no crashes on apps
Battery seems ok to glad i took plunge
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Official Samsung ICS Update -> Safe
Official Samsung ICS Update + anything related to flashing/getting root -> AT YOUR OWN RISK
If you want a stock Touchwiz ICS experience you're going to be OK. If you want to do more with your device, like always you do that at your own risk.
I jump sooner than i usually do and flashed it because i thought stock roms were safe. It did brick my phone when i made a backup and then using that backup. How i got my phone back going is downloading pc odin and an older gingerbread and flashing it. The ics rom do work very well. But you cant used the backups made with cwm. Im using LPY rightnow after unbricking it with pc odin and an older gingerbread. If u get it going LPY is worth flashing its smoother than gingerbread and very responsive. I hope someone can figure out why we cant use our backups.
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The answer is very simple.
Can you follow directions? Can you not do things outside of what is needed?
If so then yes.
If you go from GB rooted to ICS Official (with or without CF), By the book, you will have no problems.
Do not do something stupid, like say flashing CF Kernel with CM9 first
crawlgsx said:
The answer is very simple.
Can you follow directions? Can you not do things outside of what is needed?
If so then yes.
If you go from GB rooted to ICS Official (with or without CF), By the book, you will have no problems.
Do not do something stupid, like say flashing CF Kernel with CM9 first
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I agree with this. If only people will follow procedures based on the guidelines and without experimenting or creating new instructions outside the normal conditions, i guess it should work accordingly.
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I think the safest thing is if you want to go to another rom go via a stock gb and make sure to pc odin and flash pit with repartition check then root and run cwm from it
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Right now: We don't know. We have at least one person who bricked when wiping with the new kernel.
That's the most dangerous operation - wiping in recovery. However a large file deletion could trigger the issue. It's not likely, it hasn't happened yet, but it's a similar eMMC access pattern so it's possible.
Jack143 said:
It did brick my phone when i made a backup and then using that backup. How i got my phone back going is downloading pc odin and an older gingerbread and flashing it.
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Not sure that is the kind of brick "we" are talking about. The bricks that happens with ICS i9220 leaks are hard bricks and there is no way to recover from them except a motherboard exchange.
However, there is always a small risk to softbrick (when flashing anything) but these are not severe and you could recover from them in different ways depending on what type of softbrick it is.
It is still under debate if the new ICS based on LPY has the same potential to hard brick your note as the ICS i9220 leaks.
Personally I belive that if we don't get any more reports of true hardbricks then it must have been a combination of bad luck and in some way bad hardware.
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Right now: We don't know. We have at least one person who bricked when wiping with the new kernel.
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We have one person who bricked their phone by wiping from CF Kernel combined with CM9 Official, clearly NOT what the recommended is anyway.
We have 0 (reported) bricks from those of us who follow the directions.
If on anything other than GB, ODIN to stock GB. Then use mobile odin or odin to flash ICS offical; with or without latest CF Kernel (if you want root). THIS is the safe and recommended way. If you follow any other idea's or thoughts, you are doing so KNOWING DAMN WELL you could brick your phone. Do NOT use CWM functions from any other build of ICS, Period. That is what is safe right now.
Why is this so hard for people?
Why does everyone feel the need to panic and spread chaos and over exaggerate the problem.
No offense Entropy, I know you are a smart man and you know your stuff, but seriously you are making this MUCH worse than it should/needs to be. It has gone from a general "at your own risk" to a spread of fear and chaos.
Strictly my opinion of course.

phone bricked after ics wipe cache/partition

Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
richterbelmont said:
Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
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Completely stock?
richterbelmont said:
Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
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You bricked your device completely. Do you have warranty?
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PoisonWolf said:
Completely stock?
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yes man..im on official ics 4.0.4 germany rom
Have you tried swapping batteries? Just trying to rule out a dead/faulty battery of sorts...
A brick from stock recovery.. Can you get hold of Entropy? This is a valuable info about the brick bug.. Sorry about the incident buddy..
please don't send your phone in for warranty until you've spoken to entropy!!
richterbelmont said:
yes man..im on official ics 4.0.4 germany rom
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Not CF-Root, no CWM fakeflash with ROM Manager?
If it was in Samsung's own stock recovery ("3e" recovery), I want to put you in touch with a contact of mine at Samsung.
Could you PM me your email address please?
And can you go into very specific detail about what firmwares you have had installed on this device previously?
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yes man..im on official ics 4.0.4 germany rom
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Get your motherboard replaced asap.
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sahilarora2003 said:
Get your motherboard replaced asap.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Seriously... If we ever want this nightmare to end, we need to get evidence of danger in stock recovery to engineers at Samsung (not their service centers... they're clueless... If it goes into a service center, it's a lost opportunity). Thank you very much for your attempts to sabotage those efforts.
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Get your motherboard replaced asap.
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We are trying to get info from this user. This brick is so valuable if indeed it was pure stock recovery and what we can get on this brick can benefit the whole note conmunity and other devices that have the brick bug.. we know he needs a mobo replacement but please DO NOT send the device to service asap..
richterbelmont said:
Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
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Hope you can communicate with Entropy first before you decide to send your device.. He has a contact at Samsung..
i hope you can get in contact with entropy,, samsung will likely replace your unit with a brand new one.. we all love brand new things, don't we?
Unbelievable.... I never thought stock ICS 4.0.4 can brick our phone....
By the way to the OP... where you also using the stock kernel when you wiped partition /cache? or where you using a custom kernel?
*now this me think on the credibility of all stock ICS (including the latest 4.0.4) ones already... If the OP got hit by this hard brick bug (on stock 4.0.4 ICS, assuming he was using also the stock kernel that comes with it), how many more do you think will follow the OP's plight of hard bricking their phones...?
...and come to think 4.0.4 ICS is beginning to be released already in every region of the world..... this is quite an alarming news.....
What do you guys mean with stock recovery? You mean the one that you use to flash cwm to flash a rom in order to not overwrite some binary so you're phone doesn't lose warranty?
stock recovery is the recovery you have when you buy the phone or just after you flash a stock rom.
If it's a full stock and the wipe was done during automatic upgrade then samsung has to release a solution. But will they?? Entropy has been battling so much and still are people that rush in and say: "replace as fast as you can with a ss"...... unbelieveble.
I think there are more that had the same problem but or aren't users of the WWW or just didn't realise that it was the bug. I'm sure that there are a number of devices that were already repaired by some ss WITHOUT knowledge, just a swap of the mb, new flash and new phone !! That makes the customer happy but doesn't solve the problem.
Ok, it must be hard to be without a phone (i know) but if you are willing to sacrifice some time to solve a WORLDWIDE problem i'm pretty sure that you'll be considered a hero..... :laugh:
As i read here Entropy did already knows of this so just hang in there....
Wish a swift and good solution not just for you but for all....
beco
Follow Entropy that is best way.
Can you plz change title of thread?
it will be easy n better to find if it will
'Bricked not by emmc bug on pure stock ROM' or like something.
hunterhp said:
What do you guys mean with stock recovery? You mean the one that you use to flash cwm to flash a rom in order to not overwrite some binary so you're phone doesn't lose warranty?
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Recovery is the system you get by pressing "vol up", power and menu at the same time at startup
Stock is the one that you get out of the box, looks like this:
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=867265stock.png
CWM is installed with custom roms and CFRoot, looks kis this:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/backup-cwm-rooted-galaxy-note-3-690x431.jpg
You know which one you used ?
We just have to wait for the OP to report back, if it is not a false alarm. I mean, he has only 3 posts, could be anything. I hope he was on stock, but it smells like a noob not following the instructions. Forgive me if I'm wrong. In any case:
DO NOT SEND THE DEVICE to the service centre before contacting Entropy!

[Q] I need help with installing 2 things. Been going at it for a week or two.

I have been trying for a week to get this pacman aio rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2667834 ) to actually work on my Samsung Galaxy S4 SAMSUNG-SGH-1337Z . I don't even know how to install clockworkrecovery on it either ! If someone can please tell me the steps on how to do it and I'll gladly do it.
TL;DR I dont know how to put 4.4 kitkat pacman rom on my s4 and i need to learn how to install clockwork recovery mod onto it too.
Stop what you are doing. You are making really really big mistakes.
The link that you posted is for a different device. It's for the Moto G. If you flash that one your device, chances are you can trow your cellphone into the bin.
Second, you don't have a standard S4, you have one from AT&T. You are in the wrong part of the forum.
I think untill you stop making these basic mistakes, you should stop trying to flash. Browse the correct forum for you device, read and learn. If you keep going this way then you end up with a bricked device.
Go read the threads in this part and learn the basics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
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Stop what you are doing. You are making really really big mistakes.
The link that you posted is for a different device. It's for the Moto G. If you flash that one your device, chances are you can trow your cellphone into the bin.
Second, you don't have a standard S4, you have one from AT&T. You are in the wrong part of the forum.
I think untill you stop making these basic mistakes, you should stop trying to flash. Browse the correct forum for you device, read and learn. If you keep going this way then you end up with a bricked device.
Go read the threads in this part and learn the basics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att
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i just need to know which thing to download from http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/jflte/
PraisethesunnyD said:
i just need to know which thing to download from http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/jflte/
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No you don't. You need to read how to root, how to install a recovery. Then you can start thinking of flashing roms. Do you know for certain that Pacman is available for your device?
Lennyz1988 said:
No you don't. You need to read how to root, how to install a recovery. Then you can start thinking of flashing roms. Do you know for certain that Pacman is available for your device?
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Already rooted with kingo and i dont know how to use TWRP because it doesnt have my device when i go to install recovery.
yes pacman is available its all aio types like 1337Z so yeah man i need this so bad ive been trying for so long !
Lennyz1988 said:
No you don't. You need to read how to root, how to install a recovery. Then you can start thinking of flashing roms. Do you know for certain that Pacman is available for your device?
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ok i have recovery now which one do i pick in the link i sent
I would pick the latest nightly.
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use ATT's CWM or Cricket's TWRP, or even International. Ive tried all of them and they work. The only one that wouldn't stick was ATT's TWRP. it looped into odin mode. Get Cygwin to convert any .img to tar. I'll explain how if you need any help.

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