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[Q] HTC One X Plus vs Nexus 4?

Which one would you recon would be a better all around phone
One X + specs http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4976
Nexus 4 specs http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_4_e960-5048.php
I would go for the nexus 4 but the 16gb space seems too limiting and I love the sense UI but also hate how manufacturers take ages to release the android os updates hence always turn to custom roms and am a frequent flasher.
which one would you also recon has better battery life?

i would compare htc with samsung but not with nexus..
getting a nexus phone isn't only about the specs of the phone,
if u need pure android and fast updates with limited hardware specs then go for nexus
if u need a device for its hardware spec like storage and the ability to increase is then i suggest u go with htc.
since the sgs 1 i got i will never go for other than the nexus samsung left as with their GB and never got updates since then..although we got many custom roms but still not like stock.
at the end it is ur decision be wise and think twice before taking the next step.
GoodLuck

It's your call on the phone. They have pros and cons. The flagship phones usually get updates longer then lower end models. HTC has good hardware. Nexus is bare bones and designed to be minimalist.

Why do people keep saying the Nexus is limited this or lacks hardware that? The Nexus 4 is one of the most powerful devices on the market. In fact, it has the smoothest performance out of all the devices. Do yourself a favor and get the Nexus, If you want somewhat better pictures then get the One X.

1gb of ram is fail, especially on a sense phone where the ui uses a third of your ram from boot
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marwan91 said:
i would compare htc with samsung but not with nexus..
getting a nexus phone isn't only about the specs of the phone,
if u need pure android and fast updates with limited hardware specs then go for nexus
if u need a device for its hardware spec like storage and the ability to increase is then i suggest u go with htc.
since the sgs 1 i got i will never go for other than the nexus samsung left as with their GB and never got updates since then..although we got many custom roms but still not like stock.
at the end it is ur decision be wise and think twice before taking the next step.
GoodLuck
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no sd card
and who says nexus 4 has limited hardware! its a powerful phone mc4 whit max setting(mod) runs at 50-29 FPS

I used to have a one s and a one x...and i would definitely keep the nexus over both. HTC's always get support for like a couple of months after release then just die. Also updates never happen. After the one s and x i'm most likely never going to buy another HTC again.
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How many VS. threads are yet to follow to clutter up XDA Use (for instance) Google and Youtube to search for and compare phones.

doesn't matter anymore
Since Google now updates apps instead of Os, getting a Nexus device no longer matters. Jelly Bean is a mature OS. Nothing really new out there. Rumours are 4.3 will contain minimal improvements. Not as important anymore. Go with phones that has features that matter to you now. Not 2 years from now.

but when 5.0 comes out people will come back to Nexus and bashing the OEM's again for being late because its a major update and that will take awhile.
plus, Seriously considering One X series?? do yourself a favor and get HTC One(M7). else, Nexus it is! spec might not be as good as S4 or One, but definitely smoother than them. We are talking about a device which is optimized/in-sync with the OS itself here.
its a no brainer to choose Nexus 4 for me cuz of the price. and updates are important, cuz you know money doesn't easily come so i have to make it count. i'm a geek so i have to be the latest in software. haha.

Stevedion said:
Since Google now updates apps instead of Os, getting a Nexus device no longer matters. Jelly Bean is a mature OS. Nothing really new out there. Rumours are 4.3 will contain minimal improvements. Not as important anymore. Go with phones that has features that matter to you now. Not 2 years from now.
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Incorrect. Nexus devices so matter. Nexus has one thing that other phones do not and that is the availability of working drivers from the very start.
When Android 4.3 come out, other phones will have broken auto rotate, cellular data, bluetooth, gps or whatever it may be because of the drivers not working properly with 4.3 and when 5.0 comes out, it will be even more significant to the point that it will be a large transition kind of like Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich depending on what 5.0 includes.

LuffyPSP said:
do yourself a favor and get HTC One(M7). else, Nexus it is! spec might not be as good as S4 or One, but definitely smoother than them.
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Agreed with everything else in the comment, but the HTC One is just as smooth as the N4 from what I've seen.

Nigeldg said:
Agreed with everything else in the comment, but the HTC One is just as smooth as the N4 from what I've seen.
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It's not noticeable but the slight stutter is there. I played with One almost everyday. It is fast, with RARE slowdown. Sometimes in loading an app.
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I have both phones and I would suggest to somebody to get the n4 over the x+ in a heartbeat. It's just an overall better phone in fact it's the best phone I've ever had the pleasure of owning. Plus if you are into modifying your your phone with roms and kernels then I do not suggest getting an x+. On the flip side the n4 has a huge development community that is extremely active
Meh Kittehs say meow from my Xperia TL

shadymouse said:
Why do people keep saying the Nexus is limited this or lacks hardware that? The Nexus 4 is one of the most powerful devices on the market. In fact, it has the smoothest performance out of all the devices. Do yourself a favor and get the Nexus, If you want somewhat better pictures then get the One X.
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True it is quite powerful, but when I was comparing the N4 to say a used S3, couple of things stood out (And course this could be the same comparison to a One X+)
- No user-removable battery, as such no extendable battery, the N4's powerful cpu can suck down that 2100mA battery pretty easy.
- No micro-SD card , so no readability there, but can put a 64GB into an S3
- No USB-OTG support (so can't just plan on using some 32GB thumbdrive, and you only have a choice of 8GB or 16GB, no 32GB model yet)
That's basically what my take on it, an its usually non-issue to most people.
Far as a N4 vs a One, just in terms of practicality and not doing number crunching, especially since I feel like both of them are rather nice and would likely be happy with either for day to day use.
On the N4 :
1) Extremely easy to unlock the bootloader (fastboot oem unlock, no codes, etc).
2) Extremely easy to add a custom recovery (fastboot flash recovery name-of-recovery.img)
3) Extremely easy to just add a custom rom (boot up into recovery, wipe, adb push what you want, flash)
4) Rather easy to root stock AOSP once you got recovery (TWRP will isntall SuperSu for you, just let SuperSu do the rest)
5) More likely to use the shipped AOSP rom than I would HTC Sense
6) If google says a phone is getting an update, it's getting an update, none of that HTC BS bout Desire-HD getting ICS then all the sudden Nope.
And besides, it's nearly impossible to hard brick a Nexus 4, if you're a flash-a-holic, unlike the HTC One X that my brother somehow hard-bricked (he only had it rooted, nothing more) and just shut down and is a paperweight (I spent maybe 3 weeks on seeing if I could repair it before it got tossed).

You could get an HTC one Google edition
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Sprint Galaxy S3 "Supernexus"
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Whiplashh said:
You could get an HTC one Google edition
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Sprint Galaxy S3 "Supernexus"
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Look it up.
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What price those going to run at anyways? I mean if it's 200-300$ more than the normal edition with Sense, I'd rather get a Nexus4 that already had the same treatment, or wait until the AOSP version been out a while, root a normal OneX+ and then put a rooted AOSP rom based on that release onto it and save a few hundred. (assuming physically both models are the same... though not likely).
Though if the price is at what NewEgg has it at right now (399$ (50% off) for an Unlocked HTC One X+ 16GB) , then it's a bit of a tougher decision compared to the 350$ you'd pay for the N4 16GB. But if it's at the 600-700$ range... I'm going for the N4.

This discussion began in Jan and the person who started this must have bought his phone by now. Shouldn't this thread be closed?

noobdroid_90 said:
This discussion began in Jan and the person who started this must have bought his phone by now. Shouldn't this thread be closed?
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Looks like kamranhaghighi (and maybe LuffyPSP) are to blame for necro-bumpin'
PS: In the searchable interwebs, topics like these rarely stay for the sole benefit of just the original poster. (course that being said I wonder how many other N4 vs HTC One [blank] threads there are).

kbeezie said:
In the searchable interwebs, topics like these rarely stay for the sole benefit of just the original poster.
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Noted

Anyone else had enough of Samsung

Ive been with aamsung since the s3 days. Before i was a sense guy for the longest. Now with samsung waiting ages to release lollipop for a phone that cost me almost 900$ im almost fed up and really want to go another route next time i buy a phone..

Buy a Nexus then and enjoy beta testing? Getting any update is a crapshoot for pretty much any other OEM and varies from phone to phone...

$900. You got ripped off. LoL

Sorry man, just because they don't give your phone an update is not justice to say off with your head. They did not leave you with a broken non functioning phone. Whats next are we gonna put together a class action lawsuit. I still say samsung always has had the best hardware when it comes to phones. That's what intrigued me was the hardware not android. I used to be an HTC guy too back in the day. I switched because samsung phones always outperformed the HTC. This is still true to this date. If you mad cuz they haven't updated to lollipop, well that is just crazy.

I love Samsung, in fact most of my electronics are Samsung....no issues what so ever. FYI....I would've paid $900 with no problem, but it didn't cost no where near that.

Why r u so worried about getting lollipop? It's pretty crappy still. I have 5.0.1 on my Shield tablet it's got a bunch of weird bugs. I also have 5.0.2 on my nexus 5 and it's a piece of shirt now because of it.
Sometimes it's not best to be first. If you want lollipop so bad flash an AOSP ROM and deal with all the bugs just like everyone else is.
I have no issues with house this phone runs on TW. It's way better than either of my Lollipop devices.
The grass always looks greener. But tbh lollipop I'd looking like a huge fail. Hopefully 5.1 will fix a bunch of issues.
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If you want the fastest updates, get a Nexus. If you want spectacular hardware and a polished looked, keep your Samsung.

So is there a magical bug that makes every OEM skinned device a brick when Google releases a new version of android? Is your phone somehow less useful?

Am I the only one who is not anxious for lollipop to drop? I'm perfectly happy with kit Kat at the moment. It was a different story from Gb to ICS back in the Galaxy S2 days.

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Why r u so worried about getting lollipop? It's pretty crappy still. I have 5.0.1 on my Shield tablet it's got a bunch of weird bugs. I also have 5.0.2 on my nexus 5 and it's a piece of shirt now because of it.
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Agreed. Nexus 7 and Shield Tablet. Lollipop is a complete mess. I can't believe they released it at all so far. Disappointed.
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Sigh, some folks get so dramatic over things. Outside of Nexus devices, other OEMs are not significantly different than Samsung. A month or two either way doesn't change the lifetime enjoyment of a device.
Would you rather have a device with an inferior screen, no S-pen, lesser performance, less functionality, a worse camera, etc? The Note 4 has been tops since it was released and will be top dog until the new phones come out at MWC.
Also - Samsung is updating the Note 2 with Lollipop- that's 2.5 years after release. Have other OEMs committed to updating their phones from 2012?

Well let's see. I've been a fan of amhung since the captivate days(galaxy s series)so that pretty much makes me a die hard amhung fan. Will I choose a different brand phone? Probably not. ?
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I love Samsung products. I've become a little bored with there design philosophy but as a whole I think there as good as it gets. I personally could careless how long it takes for the update as long as everything works like it's supposed to and as of right now it does with KitKat. Like others said, there have been a lot of bugs with LP so far and I'm kind of glad there taking there time instead of rushing it and needing to push several updates. If they were to push it and things were messed up, most of the people complaining about it taking so long would then complain about that.

And then when we finally get Lollipop there will be 20 threads about how bad/buggy it is and a bunch of people constantly asking how to flash back to KitKat.

I am using my iPhone 6+ until lollipop is released.
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I don't get all the hate on lollipop. I have it on my N7, had it before my One M7 GPE died and tried it on here. It ran perfect and lag free for me.
However I just enjoy the fingerprint scanner, the full S Pen functions and the one hand use features.
Also WiFi calling is a must for me at work right now.

Post started by someone who once they receive the update will also have something to complain about.
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egren58 said:
Ive been with aamsung since the s3 days. Before i was a sense guy for the longest. Now with samsung waiting ages to release lollipop for a phone that cost me almost 900$ im almost fed up and really want to go another route next time i buy a phone..
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So you blame Samsung for not getting Lollipop already? Samsung released Lollipop for most of the international phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/910f-official-lolipop-germany-dbt-t3029508 just an example...perhaps you should find out what is the hold up from your carrier trying to stuff T-Mobile bloat onto Samsung's existing release or any other US Carrier for that matter.

I kn I w its not all samsung but i don't think its fair thst we buy their latest flagship than become last in line to receive the new OS.

Life isn't fair. Nothing is promised to you and Note 3 and S5 users bought the latest flagship before you..

Long time note 4 owner got the Note 5, Worthy Upgrade

Well, let me tell you the truth friends. I was one of those folks who disappointed the Galaxy Note 5 because of not having the ability to swap the battery and the sdcard. I wasn't even considering an upgrade nor recommending to anyone! But boy, I've now changed my idea, why? because I realized that the note 5 is the best of phone out there.
Two weeks ago, someone brought me a 64 gb brand new galaxy note 5 and he wanted to sell it, I asked him how much he said 600, I said well I'll give you 450 he said okay. I called sprint to make sure if the devices is clean and they said good to go.... I gave him the money and here you go I started using my new note 5.. I really don't know the reason he was selling but maybe he was moving to outside of US, who cares the reason he was selling? the device is not reported lost or stolen... Anyway
I was using the device about two weeks and man, this device is so awesome. No more Samsung lags, no more freezing or stuttering, it's ridiculously fast and smooth. And that it's self is really big jump from the note 4. But it's not only that, the note 5 has the best screen, best camera, better speakers, better fingerprint and the most amazing thing which is Samsung Pay......... I was using that samsung pay one week and I haven't seen one single problem. Yes, the down side is that I was spending a lot of money lately because of that Samsung pay, every girl says; well we don't use mobile payments and I say to her well; well just watch and wait I'll show you, Oh my God what's this phone. I don't take my wallet no more, just my driver L. and that's all! Apple pay and Android pay works with only some NFC payment machines which sometimes they don't even turn it on!
In my conclusion, yes I'll miss sdcard and the removable battery but I have 64 gb internal memory and the note 5 has better battery life than my Note 4 so I can live up without these feature because of the many other good features of the phone..
I don't know about the upcoming Xperia Z5 Premium, but no other phone can compute with Note 5 today...

That was hard to read, but interesting and uderstood. Thanks for sharing.

They took away far too much for the 5 to be an "upgrade". Also, we now have Note 5 ROM's so there is certainly no reason to shell out the $ for the 5. Glad you like the new phone, but anyone on the fence to get the 5 or 4 coming from the 3 or other older phones should get the 4 hands down.

xbmoyx said:
They took away far too much for the 5 to be an "upgrade". Also, we now have Note 5 ROM's so there is certainly no reason to shell out the $ for the 5. Glad you like the new phone, but anyone on the fence to get the 5 or 4 coming from the 3 or other older phones should get the 4 hands down.
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I totally agree with said above.
bishaarcc said:
Well, let me tell you the truth friends. I was one of those folks who disappointed the Galaxy Note 5.
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This sounds more like an impulse buy, and a good price. I'm very content with my 4.
The write up was a bit hard to read, but got the gist. Thanks for your opinion.

xbmoyx said:
They took away far too much for the 5 to be an "upgrade". Also, we now have Note 5 ROM's so there is certainly no reason to shell out the $ for the 5. Glad you like the new phone, but anyone on the fence to get the 5 or 4 coming from the 3 or other older phones should get the 4 hands down.
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I was exactly saying something before but again the fact is that Note 5 is way faster and better than note 4. I had my note 4 a year and I know it very much. The phone is slow and laggy compare to the Note 5 and that's its self is worth an upgrade. I've installed note 5 rom on my note 4 but that's still slow unfortunately.

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I was exactly saying something before but again the fact is that Note 5 is way faster and better than note 4. I had my note 4 a year and I know it very much. The phone is slow and laggy compare to the Note 5 and that's its self is worth an upgrade. I've installed note 5 rom on my note 4 but that's still slow unfortunately.
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To each their own I guess. If you want to see slow and laggy you should see my wife's crappy Kyocera Torque. I started with the HTC Evo 4g years ago and where we are today is night and day compared to then. It all boils down to one's happiness with whichever phone, at least we are all smart enough to not be on team crApple.

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I was exactly saying something before but again the fact is that Note 5 is way faster and better than note 4. I had my note 4 a year and I know it very much. The phone is slow and laggy compare to the Note 5 and that's its self is worth an upgrade. I've installed note 5 rom on my note 4 but that's still slow unfortunately.
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Dude ill keep my 4 with port of 5 its awsome have a 256g sd love my note 4[emoji4]
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xbmoyx said:
To each their own I guess. If you want to see slow and laggy you should see my wife's crappy Kyocera Torque. I started with the HTC Evo 4g years ago and where we are today is night and day compared to then. It all boils down to one's happiness with whichever phone, at least we are all smart enough to not be on team crApple.
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hahaha, I absolutely got your point. It looks like phone manufactures are moving away from expand-ability and even removable batteries. Look the new Google nexuses, the new v10 phone from LG, and so on, so let's see how it goes. as long as I got enough battery and storage I honestly don't care.

The v10 has removable battery plus expandable storage.

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The v10 has removable battery plus expandable storage.
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That it does! Looks pretty sweet too as far as customization.

Yeah I'm rush for an upgrade just yet but that V10! Lol. I am curious to see what Sammy does with S7 though.
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Currently have the Note 4 (and 3 and 2 before that). Since they took away the microSD and battery on Note 5, i was going to skip upgrading this year. Ended up pre-ordering the Nexus 6P (128gb) though. Figure if I didnt have microSD and removeable battery, id rather go stock android route. Hopefully I wont miss the removable battery too much since I do use that often.

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They took away far too much for the 5 to be an "upgrade". Also, we now have Note 5 ROM's so there is certainly no reason to shell out the $ for the 5. Glad you like the new phone, but anyone on the fence to get the 5 or 4 coming from the 3 or other older phones should get the 4 hands down.
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Exactly what I did and loving my new N4. I played with the 5 on several occasions and I just didn't fall in love or even like with it. I wish I had because I could have gotten a 5 easily - but I fell in love with the 4 and it just kept drawing me back to it. From the 5 that is.
Coming from a Note 3 that I've had since it was released - the 4 is a very worthwhile upgrade. Very classy and fast as lightning running Sacs N5 2.1
Couldn't be happier.
Jack
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I love my Note4, my wife just got a Note5 and I really love it too. Samsung really upped their game with the Note5.

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I love my Note4, my wife just got a Note5 and I really love it too. Samsung really upped their game with the Note5.
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I'd love to have the Note 5 for the fast wireless charging and MST for Samsung Pay. I have tons of free space on my 32 GB Note 4 with a 64 GB microSD. 20 GB free on the phone and 55 GB free on the microSD. I put everything on the cloud or on NAS. So microSD isn't a big deal for me. I'd be fine with a 64 GB Note 5. It would be nice to have a removable battery, but I can live without it.

To the OP...Im not trying to be a d here....But you know the saying.
I have messed with BOTH side by side. Took about 1 hour on my lunch break with a lady a coworker who just got the note 5 and i asked her to please lets check the differences. She was pissed off. The sprint rep said they were all out of note 4 she wanted the sd ir and battery being bigger and removable option. So being she wanted to know the difference too we had a group of us. We had people coming in and out of the breakroom. Asking randomly which screen looked better. Few said mine. Few said hers but most said same phones. Lol. Pics? Most were unable to tell. Granted we were inside it was well lit.
I wanted the note 5 to be so much more. But samsung really lost ground this year. The benchmarks are the only thing that stands out. That is all. Now add what it doesnt have? Its pure and simple the better choice however subjective.
Not to say I wont ever own one. I just cannot let marketing run my opinion. I am happy that you are happy and anyone that bought the phone. I can upgrade too and snag one for 200. Then 10 a month. But i really can not think of why i would pay for again for a lesser featured phone that offers way way way too close if not identical screens and cameras which are my focal points. Thats my thoughts.
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I got to play with a N5 for a few days.....very disappointed......The V10 might be the direction I go, Samsung has forgotten it's roots in its quest to be Apple...

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I got to play with a N5 for a few days.....very disappointed......The V10 might be the direction I go, Samsung has forgotten it's roots in its quest to be Apple...
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Exactly. With the Note 4 being what it is and owning it still waiting for that right move to jump to a next phone... not knowing 2015 would be the year of Sh!t Smartphone releases. Now knowing, I think im just gonna ride out my 2 year (Oct '16, phone is owned, not 'leasing') and by then ill have a definite, if not before that date, answer of whether seeing that Samsung can rectify their COMPLETE lack of misdriven philosophy of form over function(form should always Follow function in my book) allowing me to make the decision to ditch Samsung altogether or jump ship...

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Exactly. With the Note 4 being what it is and owning it still waiting for that right move to jump to a next phone... not knowing 2015 would be the year of Sh!t Smartphone releases. Now knowing, I think im just gonna ride out my 2 year (Oct '16, phone is owned, not 'leasing') and by then ill have a definite, if not before that date, answer of whether seeing that Samsung can rectify their COMPLETE lack of misdriven philosophy of form over function(form should always Follow function in my book) allowing me to make the decision to ditch Samsung altogether or jump ship...
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lol....I've thought about just keeping my N4 for the full two years as well......That will be a struggle, never had one for more than a year...

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I got to play with a N5 for a few days.....very disappointed......The V10 might be the direction I go, Samsung has forgotten it's roots in its quest to be Apple...
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I don't know much about the LG world but just checked out the V10. Looks like everything Samsung should have done with the Note 5, but this will not be on Sprint? If so that really blows.

Is the Note 4 the last great dev friendly Samsung phone for the near future?

The S7 and S7 edge has a locked bootloader for US versions, and conceivably the same for the upcoming Note 6. S6, S6 edge, note 5 have no removable storage/batteries.
Awesome development on the Note 4 here, and if we possibly get Android N, I can't see myself leaving the Note 4 for a long time.
Btw, seems like LG G5 has an unlockable bootloader but it's not possible to load a custom recovery. Not good. Seems like preventing customization is becoming a trend with the newer US phones. Of course there's still the Nexus but the hardware is only ok IMHO

I'm actively looking for a dual OS phone, contract ends Cyber Monday so I got some time. so far the only decent one I've seen is the Meizu Pro 5 n can't remember exactly why but something about it kept me looking elsewhere lol

I'm keeping both of my note 4's until i know for sure if the N6 bootloader is locked or not. I plan to stay on the N4 and continuing making roms as long as I can and until I have to upgrade my phone due to it being too outdated.

The Note 4, the last great phone Samsung ever made.
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tx_dbs_tx said:
I'm keeping both of my note 4's until i know for sure if the N6 bootloader is locked or not. I plan to stay on the N4 and continuing making roms as long as I can and until I have to upgrade my phone due to it being too outdated.
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Yeay!! Thanks for giving us hope tx.
I have no desire to switch phones anytime soon. I love my note 4. It does everything I need it to do and when the battery dies I'll get a new one and the phone will be new again.

This is the best phone ever! Its Limitless!

deeken said:
Yeay!! Thanks for giving us hope tx.
I have no desire to switch phones anytime soon. I love my note 4. It does everything I need it to do and when the battery dies I'll get a new one and the phone will be new again.
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i have been pondering this question since first getting the note 4 . I love everything about it, but after lollipop caused touch screen issues and battery discharge, i thought i might have to go all in for something else- tried the G4 which was def a beast but it cant stand up to this powerhouse and with marsh 6.0 falling from the heavens... everything has been fixed, including the lack of response in the screen(entire top/left corner). if i have to i will buy note 4 replacements until the software starts falling short

I have a good idea. For those of us who want to stick with the N4 due to the locked bootloaders on the new devices, just put insurance on your line and keep using the N4. By the time your N4 finally dies or if you lose or break it, you can get a insurance replacement and most likely will be given a N5 or whichever device is comparable and available at the time. Most likely there won't be anymore refurbished N4's by then. The deductable is still cheaper than the 2-year new contract prices of new high-end smartphones and cheaper than paying out installments for those who do that. So it will all work out for the better if you just wait it out and see how devices & bootloaders turn out.

My wife just got a new Note 5 for a broken Note 3!
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The Note 4, the last great phone Samsung ever made.
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So my wife's note 4 died and our insurance gave her a note 5. She admits she is non-techie and only uses basic functions and yet she still misses the note 4 functions and hardware (custom rom, IR). Long live the Note 4 and roms from tx_dbs_tx!!

You guys are lucky my note 4 stopped working and they replaced my phone with another note 4 . It took 3 days to come to the sprint store it was refurbished too
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A replaceable batter is a must! On heavy use days I have to swap out batteries by mid-afternoon. Not to mention the fact that by the end of year one your original battery doesn't last as long as it used to. I've always had to get a new battery or two before needing a new phone.
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tx_dbs_tx said:
I'm keeping both of my note 4's until i know for sure if the N6 bootloader is locked or not. I plan to stay on the N4 and continuing making roms as long as I can and until I have to upgrade my phone due to it being too outdated.
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I agree with you, a few months ago I upgraded from my Note 2 to the Note 4 and other than missing the dual modem (LTE while using calls), this is the best Android phone I have had. I plan to stick with it until theres no life left as I cant stand the stock OS's (other than the ones you touch) so I cant see myself ever using a stock phone.
If they begin to lock the bootloaders everywhere, this will royally suck for Android. The best thing about Android is the freedom so I hope these asshole manufacturers and carriers listen to their customers before they are no longer customers.

The bootloaders can be unlocked with a little time and effort. However, there is only a very small number of people with the skills to to it. My advice would be to research these talented people and support their efforts in advance

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The bootloaders can be unlocked with a little time and effort. However, there is only a very small number of people with the skills to to it. My advice would be to research these talented people and support their efforts in advance
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I think I am either getting a developer edition of whatever phone is available at the time or move to the Nexus and use vanilla AOSP.
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I find this article to be quite amusing:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/05/10/the-galaxy-note-4-is-not-the-last-great-note-samsung-ever-made/

beezar said:
I find this article to be quite amusing:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/05/10/the-galaxy-note-4-is-not-the-last-great-note-samsung-ever-made/
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Interesting read, I personally didn't know the EXTSDCARD changes and sealed the battery. Dumb dumb dumb, hopefully Samsung figures out in time for my upgrade or I'm buying a Nexus.
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Long story short, I updated my old note 4 from OB7 five weeks ago to marshmallow, and hated it. My replacement note 4 from Sprint had marshmallow on it, so went to 5.1.1 OG5, due to that being all I could downgrade to, and hated it as well.
After 5 weeks of being miserable, I finally made it back to OB7 via a custom rom and OB7 modem, but still on OG5 bootloader.
So, due to me not liking either 5.1.1 or 6.0.1, I will keep my note 4 until I am forced off of it, due to network changes. I will then migrate to Apple.
I didn't like the last two versions of android, so I have zero faith in Android N and being able to root a sprint note 6.

qwash6563 said:
Long story short, I updated my old note 4 from OB7 five weeks ago to marshmallow, and hated it. My replacement note 4 from Sprint had marshmallow on it, so went to 5.1.1 OG5, due to that being all I could downgrade to, and hated it as well.
After 5 weeks of being miserable, I finally made it back to OB7 via a custom rom and OB7 modem, but still on OG5 bootloader.
So, due to me not liking either 5.1.1 or 6.0.1, I will keep my note 4 until I am forced off of it, due to network changes. I will then migrate to Apple.
I didn't like the last two versions of android, so I have zero faith in Android N and being able to root a sprint note 6.
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Why go to Apple? That's the worst thing you could do. You couldn't pay me to use those overpriced pieces of trash.
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What is the Future of this phone as of now ?

I've had this phone about 3 months now and thought it was going to be good in the dev community but as im seeing now it seems all dev for this phone is dead or dying, so what hope is there that we will have any roms or new mods for this phone?Yes i understand about the locked bootloader but i was looking at the note 7 forum and they have roms for there phone and the note 7 came out after the 7 edge? i would just like to know in everyone's opinion should we be waiting and hoping for someone to break the codes and unlock our phones true potential or just shut my mouth and sit back and take what i've got and be happy with it. Don't get me wrong i commend the Echoe rom team and all the hard work they did for us and that should not be overlooked. All im saying is what do we need to get this phone poppin like all the other phones ?
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I guess all we could do is hang on to this one and trade it in or sell it when the S8 comes out and maybe we won't get screwed on the next model.

I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.

If you're looking for a mod friendly device, you should look elsewhere. With a locked bootloader, you're not going to get much dev support. Having said that, I would say that the future of this phone is bright. I can honestly say that I see no reason for me to mess with the system. It's excellent as it is.

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I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The Google pixel will be a joke. You'll see iphone 7 Will be years ahead of it. And I'm a android guy
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Yea, hate to say it, but Google should stick to making software. Either that, or actually develop the production capacity to do your own manufacturing or at least quality control, instead of farming it out to random Chinese manufacturers. My only experience with Nexus is the Nexus 5, but that device was awful. In fact, I can't think of a single redeeming quality of that device.

I'm selling mine and going back to the Note 4

slayerh4x said:
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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yeah. I'm thinking about the OnePlus 3, the support for that phone seems very good. Plus it is not too expensive. I wonder what my options are for switching phones, I don't think T Mobile will take back my phone and stop charging me my monthly device installment.

Yeah, I think you have to wait a bit more to be eligible for jump
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.

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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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I've been a nexus user since the Nexus 5 launched. and a CM user for years before then. the S7 edge is my first Samsung device (and only because I got it for free), because I have always felt the same way about Samsung as I do about apple. all hype, all trend, ignorant (non-power-user) fanbase. Samsung is literally the apple of Android, if you know what I mean. I'll never own another Samsung device after this one.

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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development

slayerh4x said:
Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
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Typically LG doesn't lock their bootloaders, and since its going to be the same phone internationally its dev community may be loads better.
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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.

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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.
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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?

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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?
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Goodness no. If you root and just care about speed, battery and custom rom options on android 6/touchwiz (and don't care about US warranty support), I would say yes.
If you care about warranty support, want an unrooted phone (or the ability to root without tripping Knox), want to use Samsung Pay or like T-mobile's financing options, The US model is definitely the one. It also has more upside
Long Term, Samsung's Android 7 may see a boot-loader unlock option, which would jump start CM/kernel development (cutting the performance gap between the phones and giving people who like Samsung's industrial design but not their software design a good solution). Next month, there will be Nexus phones running SD820, which will continue the advantage Qualcomm based roms have in custom development.

I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.

axne1 said:
I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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i hope you are right i hate to get a new phone i really like my S7 Edge

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I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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The only fact here is that nobody really knows what may or may not happen. Wishful thinking is one thing, but it is far from fact.
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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The Nexus 5 was an awful device, with awful battery life, awful display, awful speaker, and awful camera. It was quick with stock Android, but it literally had no other redeeming qualities. Mine has been used as a paperweight, to keep papers from flying off my desk when my windows is open. I am not joking. I will take an Apple device over the Nexus 5 any day, and I can't stand Apple. And yes, I have an Apple device too. I have not had any other Nexus devices, and probably never will. Samsung devices have treated me very well over the years so I am sticking with them. And honestly, the GS7 is an excellent device all around, I couldn't care less about a locked bootloader. The days of spending hours/days flashing ROMs are behind me. I have more important things to do with my free time. So before you go off and make blanket statements such as "we don't know what we are doing," consider the fact that some of us don't share the same interests as you. The majority of the world wants a device that works out of the box and doesn't know what a bootloader is, much less that it can be locked or unlocked. You, and this community, are a tiny minority of smartphone users. And guess what, there are companies that cater to you as well. Don't be pissed at Samsung for delivering what their customers wanted.