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Intersting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYbWZNtCjA

mj0528 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYbWZNtCjA
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I saw this posted earlier. I think the big question is does he release it and thus burn an exploit or does he wait for 4.3 in hopes that it is still there and thus provides a root option for 4.3 as well. I'm not sure which is my preference. The only thing I personally miss by not being rooted is the tethering, which I only use in emergency situations anyway, so its not crucial for me. However, it is nice to have freedom from the carrier release cycle if we get a way to flash roms without an unlocked bootloader.

bugsy said:
I saw this posted earlier. I think the big question is does he release it and thus burn an exploit or does he wait for 4.3 in hopes that it is still there and thus provides a root option for 4.3 as well. I'm not sure which is my preference. The only thing I personally miss by not being rooted is the tethering, which I only use in emergency situations anyway, so its not crucial for me. However, it is nice to have freedom from the carrier release cycle if we get a way to flash roms without an unlocked bootloader.
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you got any idea what was going on with the order in which he clicked on things in the about phone menu? was that part of the exploit or what? I couldn't tell if it was doing something or he was just showing you it was the OTA.

jayboyyyy said:
you got any idea what was going on with the order in which he clicked on things in the about phone menu? was that part of the exploit or what? I couldn't tell if it was doing something or he was just showing you it was the OTA.
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Just proving the version.

I would rather that he wait and see if the exploit is still available in 4.3. There's a way to go back to the first build from this update, so if you really need root that badly, you can always just do that. Once SafeStrap is ready, we'll probably see a zip of the update that can be flashed, so I find little reason for him to burn this flaw right now.

freak4dell said:
I would rather that he wait and see if the exploit is still available in 4.3. There's a way to go back to the first build from this update, so if you really need root that badly, you can always just do that. Once SafeStrap is ready, we'll probably see a zip of the update that can be flashed, so I find little reason for him to burn this flaw right now.
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how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?

mj0528 said:
how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
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You can't. Jcase stated in another thread that the exploit he used wasn't practical for most users so he probably won't release it. Was more a proof of concept
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mj0528 said:
how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46007395
Not sure if anybody ever tried that on a locked device, but I think it should work.

is there a root for 4.4? need to unbloat and freeze

Ok so to update my 4.2 att g2 to 4.4 I had to unroot it and now I need to freeze and uninstall all of this crapware . How can I root 4.4 or freeze/uninstall all the bloat ?. System turner is not working

joeynox said:
Ok so to update my 4.2 att g2 to 4.4 I had to unroot it and now I need to freeze and uninstall all of this crapware . How can I root 4.4 or freeze/uninstall all the bloat ?. System turner is not working
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U need to downgrade back to 10o and contact att for the q update. When you have the q update installed use the manual root method for 10o from autoprime. Skip adb step 5. Once rooted take the kitkat update and root will stick.

Thanks for the reply but that sounds like too much work. I'll just wait for an easier method. Thank you

joeynox said:
Thanks for the reply but that sounds like too much work. I'll just wait for an easier method. Thank you
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You're on the wrong forums if you want everything in easy mode.

podagee said:
U need to downgrade back to 10o and contact att for the q update. When you have the q update installed use the manual root method for 10o from autoprime. Skip adb step 5. Once rooted take the kitkat update and root will stick.
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Can you even downgrade from 20c back to 10d or 10o? Has anyone even attempted it?

Tremulant1 said:
Can you even downgrade from 20c back to 10d or 10o? Has anyone even attempted it?
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A bunch of have downgraded i did to obtain root.

podagee said:
A bunch of have downgraded i did to obtain root.
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Well thats good, atleast LG didnt do what Samsung did and create e-fuses that prevent you from downgrading firmware....yet another reason why I no longer have/ever will have a Samsung phone again.

Tremulant1 said:
Well thats good, atleast LG didnt do what Samsung did and create e-fuses that prevent you from downgrading firmware....yet another reason why I no longer have/ever will have a Samsung phone again.
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i really do not like samsung either....dont know what all the hype about it is for. samsung is like the apple of android....garbage. my opinion.

podagee said:
i really do not like samsung either....dont know what all the hype about it is for. samsung is like the apple of android....garbage. my opinion.
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Last great phone is the S3....S4 they went full blown Applemode....sorry for going off topic! Last Samsung/Apple blasting post for me.

Tremulant1 said:
Last great phone is the S3....S4 they went full blown Applemode....sorry for going off topic! Last Samsung/Apple blasting post for me.
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even the s3 wasnt all that great.my wife got one i touched it for about 10min. instantly got rid of it. nothing spectacular.

I rooted mine on 4.2 via kingoapp.com. Root stayed with the 4.4.2 update but if it didn't I was going back to Kingo to root again. I've rooted 4 different phones with it, the last being a T-Mobile Nexus 5 with KitKat and it's always worked fast and easy. Some people bad mouth it but it works for me.

[Early Warning] DO NOT TAKE OTAs after upgrading to Lollipop

If you've upgraded to the new Lollipop 5.0.1 update (N910VVRU1BOAF) for Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910V):
MAKE SURE YOU NEVER TAKE ANY OTA
unless/until
IT IS CONFIRMED THAT IT IS SAFE TO UPGRADE/DOWNGRADE
or
A dev has made a SAFE UPGRADE via Odin or recovery-flashable .ZIP​
One of the main advantages of this update is that you can use ODIN to go back to KK 4.4.4 at anytime, since the bootloader isn't incremented.
For Retail Edition: This is very important if you want to gain ROOT access when available & keep it over OTAs then.
For Developer Edition: Some of you have taken the OTA & restored his aboot backup via Odin. This was fine ONLY for this update. However, if the bootloader is incremented with any coming OTA, it'll block your unlocked bootloader for good & you'll end up with a Retail Edition. Moreover, if you were able to restore your aboot over an incremented bootloader using ADB/dd/etc utilizing ROOT access, you'll most likely HARD BRICK your device since the other critical partitions (TZ, SBL, ... etc) can break boot sequence due to failure in signature verification or version check.

Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?

^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.

Hibby- said:
Do we know if the updates will automatically install after a period of time?
I'm still on 4.4.4 NJ5, and the dialog pops up periodically. I am running without using the "no OTA" script at the moment. Has anyone experienced the phone update by itself after a while?
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droidx2.3.3 said:
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
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It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.

When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"

itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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I believe your looking for "SDM"

rhilway said:
I believe your looking for "SDM"
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You are correct.

Manually updating
hsbadr said:
It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
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Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated

Nameless crowd face said:
Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.
Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)
Much Appreciated
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For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!

So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?

hsbadr said:
For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
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Thank you again man

samhainww said:
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
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I did last night, just use Odin to flash the NJ5 firmware, when it tries to boot the first time it will bootloop. Pull the battery, replace the battery and boot to recovery (vol up+home+power) then wipe data. The phone will boot to the setup wizard for KK.

I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.

starbuckk said:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.
Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
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Nameless crowd face said:
From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
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+1
Another example, some Note 3 users fall into the trap of 4.4.4 OTA update & with no option to downgrade, they lost root, custom TW ROMs, and almost everything. Now, they're waiting with Note 4 users for a root method to rejoin the party while Note 3 on 4.4.2 can be rooted using TowelRoot.

Which tool?
itspeat said:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
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All of the debloat tools that I find require root, which are you using?

There's a script that someone wrote to disable Ota and debloat. It doesn't need root. Sacher around on here for it

So would it be a bad idea to update just using the software update in the phones settings menu? Or should I do it by running odin? What actual difference does this make? Will this cause me issues once we do have a root method for this device?

As of now it makes no difference.

Stupid question, but how do you turn off automatic OTA on lollipop?

Not getting any security patch update after january!

Hi,
I bought my 6p a month ago. I received updates till january on the same day i booted the device and then i received the february update but because i had to go out i did not install it then. After i came home, there was no option to update and since then i am stuck on january patch level and it shows 'device up to date' in system update.
Please help! I do not want to do it manually. Is there any way?

If you are not willing to do it manually, there's not a lot more you can do.

brichardson1991 said:
If you are not willing to do it manually, there's not a lot more you can do.
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If i do it Manually then will the next updates come to me normally? Or will i have to do these updates manually from now on?

rishabhkumarrb said:
If i do it Manually then will the next updates come to me normally? Or will i have to do these updates manually from now on?
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If you stay stock after manually sideloading, and stock recovery, you can accept future OTA'S with no problems.

jaytv said:
If you stay stock after manually sideloading, and stock recovery, you can accept future OTA'S with no problems.
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Could you guide me how to do that? Or maybe give me a link for it? I am new to it.

rishabhkumarrb said:
Could you guide me how to do that? Or maybe give me a link for it? I am new to it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

brichardson1991 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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Thanks a lot

brichardson1991 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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*update*
I got the security patch update automatically working two days of creating this thread. I guess they sent it to me as the April patch update was coming ( i may be wrong).

May Security patch?

Seems very quiet?!?

Based on release history, they are released anywhere from the 1st to the 7th of each month.

Wondering myself if they are going to wait to release for Google I/O next week.

Monday, May 7th has my bet! :good:

May 5, 2018 is not posted yet. You can download it to sideload on the 4th or 5th from this link: https://developers.google.com/android/ota

May 5th, but don't quote me!

I vote may 8th when Google I/O starts. Also hopefully the second developer preview of Android P

It's always the first Monday of the month. That has not occurred yet.

TonikJDK said:
It's always the first Monday of the month. That has not occurred yet.
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This
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I'm running stock rooted with magisk. Can I take the OTA and then re-root it again? or I have sideload or is there a different process? thanks

patt2k said:
I'm running stock rooted with magisk. Can I take the OTA and then re-root it again? or I have sideload or is there a different process? thanks
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You can unrooted completely, then side load the OTA, or, fastboot the factory image with the -w removed from the flash-all.bat file, then just flash twrp and magisk again when finished. I personally don't like going the OTA route, this is my method every month for updating if you want to have a look :good:

Badger50 said:
You can unrooted completely, then side load the OTA, or, fastboot the factory image with the -w removed from the flash-all.bat file, then just flash twrp and magisk again when finished. I personally don't like going the OTA route, this is my method every month for updating if you want to have a look :good:
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Dude, your running stock still? If I flashed the new stock image sans the -w over top of AquariOS, will it boot??

CyberpodS2 said:
Dude, your running stock still? If I flashed the new stock image sans the -w over top of AquariOS, will it boot??
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Brother Cyber! How ya been bruh?! Yep, I went back to stock. It should boot, however, you may want to restore your stock backup first :good:

The post three above mine is the correct answer. Clean, easy and zero failures. You will have issues trying to unroot in most cases. Not worth it.

...But we still dont have a fully functioning twrp . and i dont think its gonna decrypt the new security patch

dlb4all said:
...But we still dont have a fully functioning twrp . and i dont think its gonna decrypt the new security patch
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Guess we'll find out on Monday. What makes you say that outa curiosity? ?

Badger50 said:
Guess we'll find out on Monday. What makes you say that outa curiosity? ?
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just a pessimistic guess and many years of experience . but hey , lets hope im wrong

TonikJDK said:
It's always the first Monday of the month. That has not occurred yet.
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That might be true but in past months there has been official mentions of the monthly update by this point.
I'm hoping for some battery life fixes or, at the very least, not getting any worse.

Badger50 said:
You can unrooted completely, then side load the OTA, or, fastboot the factory image with the -w removed from the flash-all.bat file, then just flash twrp and magisk again when finished. I personally don't like going the OTA route, this is my method every month for updating if you want to have a look :good:
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i just flash the ota in twrp lol, easy as it gets

dlb4all said:
...But we still dont have a fully functioning twrp . and i dont think its gonna decrypt the new security patch
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it takes 2 seconds to turn off security while u update lol..