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Awesome video potential

I've just videoe my TV screen (with ceiling light above me too)
The stock camera app recording was fuzzy around the edge (grainy) and the TV picture wasn't that clear at all (was half zoomed in)
So then I used the LG camera app. Turned FPS to 60 and rate to 10mbit... EPIC!
Yes it uses more space, but the quality is amazing!
Anybody wanting to test video capability, download LG camera app, set FPS to 60 and check it out! (it doesn't look,great until you start recording)
Am just uploading a sample,video which is on highest settings in LG camera app. It's a whopping 250mb for just under a minute!!

wezzel98765 said:
I've just videoe my TV screen (with ceiling light above me too)
The stock camera app recording was fuzzy around the edge (grainy) and the TV picture wasn't that clear at all (was half zoomed in)
So then I used the LG camera app. Turned FPS to 60 and rate to 10mbit... EPIC!
Yes it uses more space, but the quality is amazing!
Anybody wanting to test video capability, download LG camera app, set FPS to 60 and check it out! (it doesn't look,great until you start recording)
Am just uploading a sample,video which is on highest settings in LG camera app. It's a whopping 250mb for just under a minute!!
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Where did you download the app from?, you should post this in the themes and apps section aswell.

Just search on the play store
.. Its free
Still waiting for it to upload, taking ages

wezzel98765 said:
Just search on the play store
.. Its free
Still waiting for it to upload, taking ages
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yeah i just checked and installed it, its the middle of the night here so il test properly tomorrow, i remember using this app a long time ago when i had my htc sensation.

Here's the sample
Not bad for an indoor false light video of a TV! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWq1CVkuwNU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

wezzel98765 said:
Here's the sample
Not bad for an indoor false light video of a TV! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWq1CVkuwNU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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what video settings did you use, what bitrate did you use. the samples good for the condition, i think we need to test this in normal daylight to see what it can really do. I took a video 32 seconds and it was 80mb

wezzel98765 said:
I've just videoe my TV screen (with ceiling light above me too)
The stock camera app recording was fuzzy around the edge (grainy) and the TV picture wasn't that clear at all (was half zoomed in)
So then I used the LG camera app. Turned FPS to 60 and rate to 10mbit... EPIC!
Yes it uses more space, but the quality is amazing!
Anybody wanting to test video capability, download LG camera app, set FPS to 60 and check it out! (it doesn't look,great until you start recording)
Am just uploading a sample,video which is on highest settings in LG camera app. It's a whopping 250mb for just under a minute!!
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thnx my frnd... it is indeed an amazing app and really the vids r much much better.. n so are pics too

wezzel98765 said:
Just search on the play store
.. Its free
Still waiting for it to upload, taking ages
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Can you pls post the link.
Cant seem to find it.

amey2606 said:
Can you pls post the link.
Cant seem to find it.
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Its in the play store, just search its called LG Camera.

If this is the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=en
then 60fps not supported, I just checked it out, 1 file on 30fps and 17mbit, the other file at 60fps and at 60mbit or whatever it was. Both files are at 29fps, so until sony adds a [email protected], I don't think it will be supported.

ascariss said:
If this is the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=en
then 60fps not supported, I just checked it out, 1 file on 30fps and 17mbit, the other file at 60fps and at 60mbit or whatever it was. Both files are at 29fps, so until sony adds a [email protected], I don't think it will be supported.
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Yeah thats the one....damn i was hoping for the 60fps option to work

MX Player detects 59,4 Hz!

OfficerTux said:
MX Player detects 59,4 Hz!
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That is something else, fps means frames per second and i have just checked on my pc and the videos max out at 30.1fps.

Well in this case Hz and fps actually are the same, as long as we are talking about the captured framerate and not the outputted one, which can very well differ.
Still you're right! MX Player is detecting bull****, Media Info on my PC does show 29,716 fps.
Would have liked it to by different though, 60fps would have been great for some slowmo action

OfficerTux said:
Well in this case Hz and fps actually are the same, as long as we are talking about the captured framerate and not the outputted one, which can very well differ.
Still you're right! MX Player is detecting bull****, Media Info on my PC does show 29,716 fps.
Would have liked it to by different though, 60fps would have been great for some slowmo action
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nah im sorry Hz and fps are 2 completly different things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
MX player indicated correctly, it just didnt show you fps

Hz describes a frequency and just means "per second" and normally when I use it to describe framerates people do understand what I mean, even if fps is the better word
If you take a look at my earlier Screenshot you will see that MX Player never claimed it to be Hz, it just says "Bildfrequenz", which means framerate, and does not use any unit.

you're right, the quality seems much better with lgCamera. :good:
EDIT: also took some pictures but the quality of them does not seem to be improved.

Well either way, whether it improves FPS or not (which I didn't check it.actually did), it does improve the video massively. That video was captured using the highest bitrate, which is what defines the quality of the video
video. You don't have to use maximum setting all the time, but it truly is much better than the stock app.

camera mod for High bitrate?

been searching high and low, is there a working mod (like Camera HX for S3) for the i9505?
I have tried editing the settings file, but is seems to ignore that.....

video of the features you can look at

?? i don't understand?
you want a video or have a video?

I definitely like to be able to change the bitrate and framerate. I actually need lower bitrate a lot of time. I mean there's no point using sky high bitrate if the limiting factor is actually the camera and lens. I was recording at 720p the other day and the s4 produced a 400mb file for 4 min of video. That is ridiculous...4 min of 720p should not take anywhere close to 400 mb....

Lol completely the opposite of what I want...to each his own I guess

can someone make a getPreviewFpsRange tester?

it would be interesting to see how fast the S5 can actually record video, especially at lower resolutions
the built in "slow motion" "1/8" mode would suggest its capturing at 240fps at 1280x720? Somehow I doubt that.
But who knows what its capable of at 640x480..might be able to capture insanely fast and we could have a really cool high speed video app.
The SDK says: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.html#setCaptureRate%28double%29
public void setCaptureRate (double fps)
Added in API level 11
Set video frame capture rate. This can be used to set a different video frame capture rate than the recorded video's playback rate. This method also sets the recording mode to time lapse. In time lapse video recording, only video is recorded. Audio related parameters are ignored when a time lapse recording session starts, if an application sets them.
Parameters
fps Rate at which frames should be captured in frames per second. The fps can go as low as desired. However the fastest fps will be limited by the hardware. For resolutions that can be captured by the video camera, the fastest fps can be computed using getPreviewFpsRange(int[]). For higher resolutions the fastest fps may be more restrictive. Note that the recorder cannot guarantee that frames will be captured at the given rate due to camera/encoder limitations. However it tries to be as close as possible.
Can this be taken at face value? I.e. can you really see what the phone will max out at fps-wise at a given resolution?
Could someone make an app to do this test and show how fast it can capture at various resolutions?

Why can't record 1080p with 60fps?

Why is this not available on the newest version of nexus line?
If you pick a other app, is then possible to record 1080p 60fps?
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Technically speaking the Snapdragon is capable of processing 1080 @ 120 FPS, however there may be either a hardware limit on the sub-processor of camera (haven't even looked if there was one). As far as I can see from the kernel source posted on AOSP there is a high media profile for [email protected] fps and [email protected], Theoretically you might be able to just create another entry in the profile to enable it.

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I'm very very interested to this discussion! The last nexus 6 was 100% capable of recording fullhd videos @60fps but Google disable that function and nobody know why, I was absolutely sure that in this nexus 6p that record mode would be present! There are no reason why it should be disabled, who cares if I can record a bird at 240fps (in slow motion), how many times somebody use this functions? One in a month?
How many instead make some (normal) videos? Maybe two/three times a week or even more and recording @ 60fps instead of 30fps is like day and night! Damn Google.

Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.

nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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Because 60fps looks a lot better - obviously.
I don't know how you, or anybody can even come close to thinking the 30 frames per second is OK when you have the option of 120 and 240.
Have you never seen a YT video with 60fps!? Yeah... You're blind if you can't see the difference. It makes no sense for Google to have those very high frame rate options but still not have 60 frames per second at 1080p.
Also, no, you are wrong about people slowing down 60 frames per second video. You would slow down 120 or 240, yes, but nobody in their right mind would use 60 frames per second down to 30 in today's world. You would just use the 60 frames per second video because it looks a lot smoother.
You sound very ignorant in your post. Nearly all of what you said is bull****.

nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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I don't know about your source, but the human eyes are seeing the world at arround 2000fps.
PS: you can clearly see the difference between 30vs60 and you can see a little difference at 120fps

I think that poster is either a troll or a moron - or has been reading console forums (because anyone with half a brain knows that what they said is a complete lie)
Me thinks they didn't read before spewing garbage. Shame really...

marcoruzza said:
I'm very very interested to this discussion! The last nexus 6 was 100% capable of recording fullhd videos @60fps but Google disable that function and nobody know why, I was absolutely sure that in this nexus 6p that record mode would be present! There are no reason why it should be disabled, who cares if I can record a bird at 240fps (in slow motion), how many times somebody use this functions? One in a month?
How many instead make some (normal) videos? Maybe two/three times a week or even more and recording @ 60fps instead of 30fps is like day and night! Damn Google.
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nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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iRub1Out said:
Because 60fps looks a lot better - obviously.
I don't know how you, or anybody can even come close to thinking the 30 frames per second is OK when you have the option of 120 and 240.
Have you never seen a YT video with 60fps!? Yeah... You're blind if you can't see the difference. It makes no sense for Google to have those very high frame rate options but still not have 60 frames per second at 1080p.
Also, no, you are wrong about people slowing down 60 frames per second video. You would slow down 120 or 240, yes, but nobody in their right mind would use 60 frames per second down to 30 in today's world. You would just use the 60 frames per second video because it looks a lot smoother.
You sound very ignorant in your post. Nearly all of what you said is bull****.
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I don't know about your source, but the human eyes are seeing the world at arround 2000fps.
PS: you can clearly see the difference between 30vs60 and you can see a little difference at 120fps
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iRub1Out said:
I think that poster is either a troll or a moron - or has been reading console forums (because anyone with half a brain knows that what they said is a complete lie)
Me thinks they didn't read before spewing garbage. Shame really...
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I can definitely say that I can see it. Between 30fps and 60fps. Soooo much smoother and crisp. If you look a sample on youtube. You only want 60 fps.
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The human eye does not "view" at around 2000fps, it doesn't actually see in any fps while viewing the natural world. The human eye sees things live, as in ~fps. Those of us with good eyesight can definitely see the screen refresh on lower rates like 60fps. My TV is 1080p hd @ 50hz (which is not fps) & its gotten so painful to watch it, that I am considering a new TV. When you watch a 60fps video on a 50hz TV, the refresh rate & the frames of the video don't coincide & make the experience jumpy. 30fps looks better because the fps is slower than the refresh rate.
On our 2k phone screens however 30fps looks jumpy because the resolution is higher & our eyes are trying to view it in the same manner as we view the natural world.

iRub1Out said:
I think that poster is either a troll or a moron - or has been reading console forums (because anyone with half a brain knows that what they said is a complete lie)
Me thinks they didn't read before spewing garbage. Shame really...
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I actually studied photography and film extensively in college as it was my major. It is true that 30fps is standard and 60fps would look awkward. There are some human eyes that notice changes up to 200fps but those are basically jet pilots, the exception not the rule. No human eye would be able to notice 2,000 fps. That is not possible. Lastly, set your camera to 240 fps and see how everything gets darker. That isn't a lie. It is a fact that high frame rates will result in darker, noiser videos because they require more light.

60 fps is not a good speed to shoot at. Especially in a sensor without IS. You will get more jitter in your video. I produce video for a living, as In it is my job and I do it daily. You dont EVER record in 60 fps unless you are capturing very fast action or are intending to slow it down. And when you record in 60 FPS, you always export it at 30 fps or 25 fps from Premier pro of Final cut, whatever you use.

All I know is that on my Note 4, I only record at 60fps 1080p and wow does it ever look better then anything I've ever recorded in 30fps.

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Photography and videography are not the same.
60fps is better than 30fps for any and all reason regardless of whatever you think you know - nobody agrees with you if they've seen 60fps video. It's day and night, and if you read anything from YT users, gamers, normal humans, they all say 60fps is better - in any scenario.
Back on point, however, still mind blown that this wasn't included with the camera.
I use Premier Pro and After Effects, and 60fps is my only export option - I wouldn't even consider lower unless it was SHOT lower, but never is. Look at my YT page. Nothing under 60fps once I had my hands on a camera capable of 60fps. I practice what I preach.
I would NEVER shoot 60 fps video with an intention to slow it down, that's stupid - that's what 120/240fps are for - those are to be slowed down.
60 fps is for normal viewing speed - anything higher is OK to slow down, but 60 down to 30 - no thanks. That's just a waste of good 60fps footage.

Any one tried snap camera on N6P yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2055140

nonnasmyladie said:
Why would you ever want to record 1080p videos @ 60fps? You would never be able to tell the difference from from 30fps. The human eye can only see about 42-45 fps. If you shoot a video at 60fps it is actually going to look unnatural. Most that shoot 60fps do so only because they intend to slow it down to 30fps in post production.
30fps is the standard and it is rare to shoot video at higher frame rates. In fact, shooting at 60fps would reduce your shutter speed requiring more light to get a quality video.
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I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or not , but I can tell you 100% that a human eye can see beyond whatever you have stated. I game on a 144hz monitor , and yes I could tell and feel the difference between 30/60/144.
Back on topic , I found it very weird already when the Galaxy s6/note 5 with the fast processor not being able to record in 240fps . Also , I've noticed slow motion inconsistencies regarding the 6p's 240fps , some youtube videos look buttery smooth , some looks like some slideshow. No idea what's causing this , any thoughts?

nonnasmyladie said:
I actually studied photography and film extensively in college as it was my major. It is true that 30fps is standard and 60fps would look awkward. There are some human eyes that notice changes up to 200fps but those are basically jet pilots, the exception not the rule. No human eye would be able to notice 2,000 fps. That is not possible. Lastly, set your camera to 240 fps and see how everything gets darker. That isn't a lie. It is a fact that high frame rates will result in darker, noiser videos because they require more light.
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Don't assume what others would find awkward. Guessing a lot like it since Google allows those to see it on Youtube. Even besides that, you say you can't see it or its "awkward". Okay. Me and plenty of others like it and can see the difference. Videos are not dark looking when I record ALL my videos with my iPhone.
Sad to see Google didn't include this with this latest Nexus device.
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For those that have it. Quick 4K info..

Whats the 4K recording bitrate and hows it compared to other phones . Also, is there a 5 min limit like on my note4?
--Thx

I did a quick test and got 90MB for 15 seconds, around 6MB/s.
But, I wasn't sure if there was some way to stress the bitrate of the codec - bright scenes? dark scenes? high contrast? If anyone has any insight into which are the hardest scenes to compress I can repeat the experiment.
Or, is the codec somehow a constant rate codec (as in fixed rate MP3 vs variable rate)?

how about the time limit? how long can you record 4K?
I think 6/MB is average. I heard of people that root note 4 able to up the bitrate. Even if it is the same it still might look better then other phones with the same bitrate due to the lens and so forth. I think the main issue is going to be with the stabilization. OIS helps but I guess you can run it through adobe or some other program to get software to add to that. I wonder if I record in 1440 if the software will work for that.