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Hi, so.. I forgot my charger at work.. and everyone around me use iphones and I have to charge my phone
I found an old samsung galaxy 1 charger, and so far it's charging pretty good..
but I want to make sure that it's safe. do you guys know if using a samsung charger can do any damage to my battery?
I also have dorimanx kernel forcing fast charge mode.
thanks in advance.
Nightbeat said:
Hi, so.. I forgot my charger at work.. and everyone around me use iphones and I have to charge my phone
I found an old samsung galaxy 1 charger, and so far it's charging pretty good..
but I want to make sure that it's safe. do you guys know if using a samsung charger can do any damage to my battery?
I also have dorimanx kernel forcing fast charge mode.
thanks in advance.
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Nope, it's fine. It might charge slower, but the voltage will be the same. A non-android compatible charger will only charge at 500mAh due to the way Android determines USB vs AC charging, that's really the only difference you'll ever see on such a charger beyond the capacity of the charger itself, which would just manifest itself as slower charging.
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I am planning to buy this phone.
Can anybody confirm if faster charging is possible with a 2A non stock charger? How much time does it take to reach 100 percent?
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The phone doesn't have fast charge
For me, it takes 1h 30m to charge from 0% to 100%
Johnny TDN said:
The phone doesn't have fast charge
For me, it takes 1h 30m to charge from 0% to 100%
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Absolutely correct, the phone doesn't have FAST/QUICK charger technology...
However a higher ampere charger like 2A could still charge a phone faster, hence my query above
Are you sure it takes 90 minutes to fully charge with stock 1A charger as mathematically it's not possible
3000mAH/1000mA=3 hours
Or
3000mAH/1.5H=2000mA or 2A
Pehaps you are using a higher capacity charger? That would explain it...
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The time of charging with 2A is the same using a original charger with 1A. The limit is inside at the circuit control of charge.
garf02 said:
The time of charging with 2A is the same using a original charger with 1A. The limit is inside at the circuit control of charge.
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Thanks
This is the 3rd comment I have seen from a user confirming 1A is the max phone can utilise
Such a shame as I think this is the only real flaw with this phone, otherwise it's a great device...
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Yes, you have right.
We can put a 10 A capability charger at our device, but charge control circuit is doing his job and let device charging with 1 A max, even if is there 10 A disposable....
Maybe with some command in hidden menu or with some customized firmware is a way to override this limitation.
(At LG 4X HD is in hidden menu a command that enable fast charging).
Where exactly does one have to change what in the root directory?
I want to test this time.
Senaxo said:
Where exactly does one have to change what in the root directory?
I want to test this time.
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I doubt we will be able to find any such software hack to allow fast charging.
There just isn't enough development going on for this phone for anyone to discover and share such information
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-p9-lite-review
Above review was found by another user on this forum where it's mentioned that phone supports 10W (5V×2A)
So this is what I am hoping is correct and is verified by someone who owns the phone already
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That would be really very nice, I would be really happy ).
Maybe fast charge working with another type of charger: Huawei 9V2A Quick Charge Travel Charger
Instead of 5V1A(5W) or 5V2A(10W) with 9V2A(18W) charger, the charge circuit control will sense 9V instead of 5V and maybe switch to fast charge...
2 Amp charger are only needed if you are using a 2 or 3 meter USB wire.
gtdaniel said:
Maybe fast charge working with another type of charger: Huawei 9V2A Quick Charge Travel Charger
Instead of 5V1A(5W) or 5V2A(10W) with 9V2A(18W) charger, the charge circuit control will sense 9V instead of 5V and maybe switch to fast charge...
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I dont think so.... the options you mentioned actually mean QC 2.0 technology which we know for sure isn't available in P9 lite
There are few mentions of phone supporting 5Vx2A online; one such link shared by me in earlier post...
Read up on QC technology if you want to at below link
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
Lieutenantdaan said:
I dont think so.... the options you mentioned actually mean QC 2.0 technology which we know for sure isn't available in P9 lite
There are few mentions of phone supporting 5Vx2A online; one such link shared by me in earlier post...
Read up on QC technology if you want to at below link
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
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The P9 Lite doesnt support any sort of fast charging. The ability of a phone to charge faster depends on it's hardware and the use of a fast charger. However, with a 2A charger, it slightly decreases charging time since the phone pulls approximately 1050mA. Be careful not to use a charger thats higher than 5V as it will fry your circuitry.
LiaquateRahiman said:
The P9 Lite doesnt support any sort of fast charging. The ability of a phone to charge faster depends on it's hardware and the use of a fast charger. However, with a 2A charger, it slightly decreases charging time since the phone pulls approximately 1050mA. Be careful not to use a charger thats higher than 5V as it will fry your circuitry.
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Where did you get this 1050mA spec, did u measure it yourself? This could be true as well, as fast charging is not observed by anyone until now except few online sources which state otherwise...
The part about damaging phone is inaccurate as QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers are reverse compatible with old devices which support 5V only, the phone and charger never switch to 9V/12V/20V mode as the technology isn't there...
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Lieutenantdaan said:
Where did you get this 1050mA spec, did u measure it yourself? This could be true as well, as fast charging is not observed by anyone until now except few online sources which state otherwise...
The part about damaging phone is inaccurate as QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers are reverse compatible with old devices which support 5V only, the phone and charger never switch to 9V/12V/20V mode as the technology isn't there...
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I did measure it myself with the aid of a friend. By the way, I was referring to a standard 9V/12V charger, not the QC charger.
According to my knowledge, the voltage is like a gateway to your phone, your phone pulls the current. Hence, if you use a standard charger with higher than 5V, you'll most definitely burn your circuitry. BUT....if you use a 5V charger with an abnormally high amperage, the phone will only pull the current it needs.
LiaquateRahiman said:
i did measure it myself with the aid of a friend. By the way, I was referring to a standard 9V/12V charger, not the QC charger.
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Great that you actually measured it, I am assuming using an external device...
That would confirm it without doubt that online reports are incorrect and phone can't charge above appx 1A
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Lieutenantdaan said:
Great that you actually measured it, I am assuming using an external device...
That would confirm it without doubt that online reports are incorrect and phone can't charge above appx 1A
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yes that is correct
LiaquateRahiman said:
yes that is correct
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So just a quick question.
This means that for a phone to be able to pull 2A, is not just software control?
It means that the hardware has to support the ability?
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ivanwong1989 said:
So just a quick question.
This means that for a phone to be able to pull 2A, is not just software control?
It means that the hardware has to support the ability?
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I believe that is true. Although, most fast chargers (like the samsung one) only supply 1.67A at a higher voltage, normally 9V. This combination increases the output wattage of the charger....Like i said on my earlier post, the voltage is the gateway to the phone while the phone pulls the amperage.
What do you guys think about it?
Is is "safe"?
What Chargers are you guys using?
thanks in advance!
I've read that G6 does not support QC3.0 for now but it's about to thanks to the incoming update.
But anyway, of course, why not!
I did so with my Xperia Z3 Compact which supported QC2.0 but it's pretty much the same case for our G6's. I never had any problems with the battery in my Z3C.
I'm also planning to buy QC3.0 charger, which one are you gonna use?
Well, i'm using the default charger, which is supposedly qc 2, but qc 3 shouldn't damage your battery in any way. It charges very quickly to around 85% and then slows down to preserve battery life.
romcio47 said:
I've read that G6 does not support QC3.0 for now but it's about to thanks to the incoming update.
But anyway, of course, why not!
I did so with my Xperia Z3 Compact which supported QC2.0 but it's pretty much the same case for our G6's. I never had any problems with the battery in my Z3C.
I'm also planning to buy QC3.0 charger, which one are you gonna use?
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first time i hear that
it says here:
http://www.lg.com/in/lgg6#specs/specifications
and here:
https://geizhals.de/lg-electronics-g6-h870-schwarz-a1584137.html
also in several yt video tests that it clearly can do QC3.
i use that charger:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B017XBDBI6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
WstrKuNoužč said:
Well, i'm using the default charger, which is supposedly qc 2, but qc 3 shouldn't damage your battery in any way. It charges very quickly to around 85% and then slows down to preserve battery life.
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yep the included one can QC2 (asked LG support about it)
and ive read the same thing about qc3... that it is supposably battery "friendlier", thats why i was wondering what other lgg6 users do
I've confirmed that the charger that came with my G6 is QC3.0 (model MCS-H06UR, UK 3-pin). Using a USB power meter, the voltage will increase from 5V to 9V in small steps. If I use a QC 2.0 charger (stock charger from Note4/S7edge), it will jump from 5V to 9V immediately.
pustefix said:
I've confirmed that the charger that came with my G6 is QC3.0 (model MCS-H06UR, UK 3-pin). Using a USB power meter, the voltage will increase from 5V to 9V in small steps. If I use a QC 2.0 charger (stock charger from Note4/S7edge), it will jump from 5V to 9V immediately.
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Now, this is interesting and good to know. But QC 3.0 has two components to it. One is the variable voltage, but the second is actually using voltages up to 22V. So it would seem that this is QC 2.5
jdock said:
Now, this is interesting and good to know. But QC 3.0 has two components to it. One is the variable voltage, but the second is actually using voltages up to 22V. So it would seem that this is QC 2.5
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Well, it just means that it can support up to 22V but not that all charger must support 22V to be QC 3.0 compatible. If you look around most QC 3.0 chargers only support up to 12V.
Can i use a quallacom quick charge charger rated at [email protected] (i guess what turbo power gives is 9v at 1.67A)
P.s both give charging current of nearly 2500ma in ampere app,my original moto charger is not wrking and i am out of warranty
Yes I use my samsung charger (9v 2amp) on my G4 all the time shows as turbo charger when plugged in.
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
airafali said:
Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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Again, I don't understand what you mean. The SD625 support Quick Charge 3.0, but the charger supplied with the device is a QC 2.0 compliant adapter that is labeled "TurboPower", at least in the US. If I connect a Samsung GS7 to the Moto charger, it shows Fast Charging as well.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand what are you trying to say here.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
McKellen said:
But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
acejavelin said:
According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
McKellen said:
I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
McKellen said:
Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
Karlinski said:
Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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I'm just asking coz QC 2.0 charger is cheaper then QC 3.0 charger
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
Karlinski said:
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
McKellen said:
I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
McKellen said:
I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
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That is my charger at work... If you have a QC 2.0 charger, don't bother getting a new one. If you are buying one, get a 3.0 one.
I know this thread is a little dated and I'm a late comer to this thread, but I just bought the g5 plus on a black friday deal at best buy $300 down to $225, US xt1678 variant, 64gb storage and 4gb ram, I jsut could not resist it for that price, and....it was actually cheaper than the 32gb storage 2gb ram variant which was listed at $229
Anyways on to my question, this is for acejavelin. You said your qc 2.0 worked and came up as showing turbo charging (not just normal charging)? I hope I am reading this correctly. Also is this one of those Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, that's what I was looking at buying for my car and was curious if it worked. Just checking to make sure I'm reading the thread correctly.
I recently just bought a 2.1 fast charge lighter plugin, but guess what, it doesn't turbocharge only normal charge. I tried with the cord that came with the phone, as well as 2 other cords and still only normal charge for each one.
Now with my wall charger (the provided turbocharger that came with the g5 plus) in the house, all 3 cords work and show as turbocharge as long as I am using the provided moto turbo charge wall charger.
I also was curious and tried an old samsung charger that I used on I think it was the s4, last samsung I owned lol. With my nexus 5x which has USB-C worked wonderfully with it, but sadly turbo charge does not work so well with the samsung wall charger, because it does not show as turbo charge, but only normal charge on the g5 plus.
Using s8 fast charger it is rated as 5v , 2a im worried as is dont have lg original charger which supports 1.8a(fastcharge). My phone also got hot on samsung adapter . Should i buy original or its nothing to worry about. Kindly need advice.
AFAIK, there will be no difference. The chip controls how much energy is delivered to the battery, and even if you use a 3a charger, the phone itself will limit the maximum energy delivered so it doesn't affect battery.
It's normal that the battery gets hot on fast charge (even in normal charge) Just try to avoid using the phone or charging in a hot environment so the battery doesn't go further than ~40°C more or less.
zaighumjawad said:
Using s8 fast charger it is rated as 5v , 2a im worried as is dont have lg original charger which supports 1.8a(fastcharge). My phone also got hot on samsung adapter . Should i buy original or its nothing to worry about. Kindly need advice.
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The original one is 9V 1.8A so there won't be any problems with the Samsung one.