Seems like good news for 2nd Gen Moto X Retail models.
Read this: https://plus.google.com/app/basic/s...tform=1&spath=/app/basic/+DavidSchuster/posts
If anyone captures OTA zip for retail models, please post it here.
I don't understand David Schuster... He doesn't say a word about the reason why xt1096 and xt1097 at&t doesn't get upgraded.
It's like he doesn't care from all that owners who own these models...
At lease he need to tell us why
According to frandroid.com update starts rollout today in France
I have EU 1092 (i from Czech Republic), so why he wrote Germany etc, but what means EU? It's not Germany, because version it's "retde" but i have reteu.
pepino34 said:
I have EU 1092 (i from Czech Republic), so why he wrote Germany etc, but what means EU? It's not Germany, because version it's "retde" but i have reteu.
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Worry not, I can tell you that soak test for your model has started. Your Model is the same as mine (RETail-EUrope). Next week release, if everything goes smooth.
Deatscythe said:
According to frandroid.com update starts rollout today in France
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Link? Cannot find this on frandroid.
Judge584 said:
Link? Cannot find this on frandroid.
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I would have give you the link but it's useless, I just received the notification for 6.0 on my xt1092! But my battery is too low I will do it tomorrow!
OrenGazala said:
I don't understand David Schuster... He doesn't say a word about the reason why xt1096 and xt1097 at&t doesn't get upgraded.
It's like he doesn't care from all that owners who own these models...
At lease he need to tell us why
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He probably doesn't want to burn bridges with AT&T by publicly calling them out on it.
Finally got OTA .. XT1092 , Indian Model
I got my update to Marshmallow yesterday. Pretty impressed at the speed of this one as Lollipop took forever to arrive!!
The actual update process went very smoothly.
It's made the overall feel of the whole OS a lot nicer and smoother. Definitely feels more polished to me. Also love the unbelievable control of app permissions in this one! They've really ramped up on security here.
Another small but amazingly useful change: the addition of battery percentage!!!! Took them long enough but finally it's here in some form or another!
Everything seems to work quite well without having to reset the phone like I used to have to do when upgrading from other versions of Android.
Not tested battery life just yet but hoping it'll have improved thanks to Doze.
So far I'm very impressed with this one and am actually considering sticking to Android a bit longer as my plan was change my phone for an iPhone 7 when released as was getting really sick of the silly little Android bugs.
Got the OTA yesterday. XT1092.
Got mine today 6.0 1097 at about noon
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Got the OTA yesterday. XT1092.
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Could you share your system version?
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What did I do wrong. My xt1092 became laggish especially in Chrome. Even after full wipe and cache wipe?
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There are a lot of people who mentioned low performance after update. Only 6.0.1 update can fix that.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/rq-N3oo2P40;context-place=forum/nexus
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What did I do wrong. My xt1092 became laggish especially in Chrome. Even after full wipe and cache wipe?
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There are a lot of people who mentioned low performance after update. Only 6.0.1 update can fix that.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/rq-N3oo2P40;context-place=forum/nexus
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That is correct. I notice the lag too.
Deatscythe said:
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good
gekster said:
What did I do wrong. My xt1092 became laggish especially in Chrome. Even after full wipe and cache wipe?
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There are a lot of people who mentioned low performance after update. Only 6.0.1 update can fix that.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/rq-N3oo2P40;context-place=forum/nexus
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try using chromium or cm browser no lag at all on those I'm running a Brazilian 1097 twrp backup from last month on my 1095. No lag in the system but terrible with chrome. using those browsers solved my issue.
Chromium is it the same as Chrome Dev?
not only chrome many apps shows lag like instagram whatsapp facebook side scrolling phonograph(too much) .
try chrome dev or chrome beta, the animation stutter on the 3 dot menu bar on top right is not there on the beta and dev version.
also if you turn on moto voice from settings>accesibility, chrome will go berserk and start lagging more and switching it off makes it normal again.i dont know why this is happening, anyhow i already reported this on moto forums
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Chromium is it the same as Chrome Dev?
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No https://download-chromium.appspot.com/
Related
New Firmware Rolling out N8000 for Nordic & United Kingdom,
Links :
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/181141887/a124cae/N8000XXBLK2_N8000OXXBLJ2_NEE.zip.html
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/181141843/b03beae/N8000XXBLK2_N8000OXXBLJ2_BTU.zip.html
Its 4.1.1 will upload a torrent file soon so easy for others to download
What's new in this Rom ?
Sweet. I'm still waiting for the n8010 update :/.
I can't imagine it will be released much later though really
I think should be the same as the German rom but we shall only know when someone downloads it and post a review
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What's new in this Rom ?
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Well, there doesn't seem to be much difference between this ROM (there's only one; the Dutch and UK ROMs are the same) and the German ROM I've been using for a while.
Here's some subtle differences:
- The icons in the notification bar seem to have been updated so their a little cleaner and better spaced apart.
- The S-Pen seems a little less twitchy. Using it in hover on the German ROM seemed like it was set too sensitively.
- Polaris is still the older version and the newer one in Samsung Apps still FC's after you install it. And PDF annotate still doesn't work.
- The quick apps on the home screen are back.
- The display seems like its calibrations have been changed. Colors seem a little better balanced and text seems clearer (this could be placebo).
- Auto-brightness seems a little smoother in its transitions (also could be placebo).
- The mobile signal seems to lock faster when you're turning it off and on (another possible placebo).
- The "check for update" error is gone.
It "feels" the same as the German ROM performance wise but other than the above I haven't found any other differences.
So the question why did Samsung take a month to roll it out really stupid of them
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So the question why did Samsung take a month to roll it out really stupid of them
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Trying to figure out why Samsung does what they do and the order they choose to do it in will just give you a headache. It's kind of like riding a specific roller coaster for the first time. You'll never know what's coming up next.
LOL good one
They may very well have been using the German rom as a beta... Any subsequent fixes can be patched later with an TA update after rolling out to rest of the world....
As there weren't any real problems with the German rom, and giving it a month to get bug reports, they are now rolling out tweaked version to everyone else...
Got it this morning in norway
GT-N8000
BarryH_GEG said:
Trying to figure out why Samsung does what they do and the order they choose to do it in will just give you a headache. It's kind of like riding a specific roller coaster for the first time. You'll never know what's coming up next.
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Let's setup a gambling game and take bets on which country is going to roll out jelly bean.
Come on OTA. Make your way to Asia *****.
Nothing in Finland yet.
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would be a good biz
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Asia should be next but considering how much time it took to travel from Germany to UK I think its walking on foot So Asia could be a year or two away lol
Should release within this week normally it happens the next day after UK gets the update but can never trust Samsung on updates only thing is for sure it happens first thing in the morning
So this better than 4.1.1 german right ?
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Grrr Samsung just push the button for all regions lol
Its almost the same with some polishing but country specific
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Its almost the same with some polishing but country specific
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Does the UK rom have bloatware and English US language?
WPMan said:
Does the UK rom have bloatware and English US language?
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In Italy still waiting...................................
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Sorry guys, what are the differences between N8000XWALG7_N8000BTUALG6_BTU.zip and N8000XXBLK2_N8000OXXBLJ2_NEE.zip ??
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*But it doesnt say what devices are getting it. And nothing on my 6 yet.
http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/2015/03/android-51-unwrapping-new-lollipop.html
stevessvt said:
*But it doesnt say what devices are getting it. And nothing on my 6 yet.
http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/2015/03/android-51-unwrapping-new-lollipop.html
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here is another one
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-51-updates-nexus-5-could-begin-today-t-mo-docs-suggest
wonder when well see some updated roms
it can take up to 3 weeks to get an update once google starts. within 3 weeks is what google promises.
Newest nexus device = last device to get the update it needs and has needed since it's botched release. Gj googs
Guess it's time to turn back on the webpage update add on for the factory image pages. I mostly just want to try a new modem.
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dhufford81 said:
Newest nexus device = last device to get the update it needs and has needed since it's botched release. Gj googs
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People say this, but I don't really have any problems. Everything works. I just want to see if I can get some better reception in a few spots, but really it's very minor.
brizey said:
Guess it's time to turn back on the webpage update add on for the factory image pages. I mostly just want to try a new modem.
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People say this, but I don't really have any problems. Everything works. I just want to see if I can get some better reception in a few spots, but really it's very minor.
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Yeah I really don't have to many issues either I was just being snide. I do think it burns too much battery while sitting idle with screen off though. I shouldn't be losing 5 to 10 percent battery overnight. Mind you my overnights are 6 to 7 hours usually.
brizey said:
Guess it's time to turn back on the webpage update add on for the factory image pages. I mostly just want to try a new modem.
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People say this, but I don't really have any problems. Everything works. I just want to see if I can get some better reception in a few spots, but really it's very minor.
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Main issue I want fixed is the sound issues then all will be fine for me.
Everyone calm down, it's not in aosp yet
and all i want is just a stock deodex rom =/
so what is new besides the HD voice and device protection ?
italia0101 said:
Everyone calm down, it's not in aosp yet
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Finally, someone with common sense (and you beat me to it).
ROM's won't appear until it's in AOSP and Dev's re-compile.
for those devices it goes out to, we might see the OTA available if someone captures and upload it to their favorite BB
And then this could lend credence to VZ's hitting stores with 5.1 a week from Thursday (But I still think those would be a 5.0 variant with a open and update to 5.1 myself ...)
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so what is new besides the HD voice and device protection ?
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Still think were waiting on an official change log from google. Here's some 5.1 changes that have been posted: http://www.androidpolice.com/tags/android-5-1-feature-spotlight/
Sent from my Nexus 6
I hope google fixed the increasing tone (or allowed to disable it)
Looks like factory images dropped for the N5 and N10, but nothing yet for Shamu
The 2012 Nexus 7 also got some love.
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Looks like factory images dropped for the N5 and N10, but nothing yet for Shamu
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shamu takes more time for some reason, its usually later than the rest
It is being pushed to aosp now: https://android.googlesource.com/device/moto/shamu/+/lollipop-mr1-release
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...d-5-1-lollipop-source-code-to-aosp-right-now/
The system images are live for the nexus 4&5. But not the nexus 6 as per usual.
Why is the 6 slower to update? Is it done chronologically?
5.1 Could Begin Today
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-51-updates-nexus-5-could-begin-today-t-mo-docs-suggest
Just got the notification for 5.1 update, in USA XT1527 anyone else getting it?
Nothing with EU (XT1524)
Same here in Greece, nothing yet! (XT1524)
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Just got the notification for 5.1 update, in USA XT1527 anyone else getting it?
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LOTS of Questions !!
1. Have you registered for the Soak Test for this phone ? (Is this a Soak Test update or an official one ?)
2. How is the performance of the phone ? (Benchmark comparisons, Gaming)
3. Any improvement in battery life ? (I know it is early but you must have felt something)
4. Screenshots ? Please ??
5. Can you make a Youtube video review for this ? (You'll get lots of views !! )
Yup...
The update is coming soon to other regions....
As motorola releases the android 5.1 Update notes for moto e 2nd generation...
Just Google it to find out
Yes, it is not Soak firmware: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105252
ill have to check my wifes moto e. but since its rooted with twrp i wont be able to take it anyways. ill have to wait for stock firmware to be posted.
I just got it ota yesterday (NY) with AT&T
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I just got it ota yesterday (NY) with AT&T
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5.1 or 5.1.1? Which build number did you get? See the bottom of the "About phone" page in settings. It will probably be of the form LPI23.##
5.1
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LPI23.29-15
There is no update avialable in germany...
Nothing on the XT1521 (India) so far.
Nothing yet, USA, Texas, AT&T.
Wooohooo!
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Wooohooo!
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Yep. Got mine today too. FL USA. Seems much snappier, and even smoother. I also have more room now on the internal by about 200MB. Nice update.
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Yep. Got mine today too. FL USA. Seems much snappier, and even smoother. I also have more room now on the internal by about 200MB. Nice update.
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Yeah, totally snappier and quick--very excited because to be honest, I was a little disappointed by the phone's performance. T-Mobile, MN, USA.
On Verizon wireless in us no update yet thanks for the heads up however
Same for me. Much snappier feeling. It took quite a while to load some apps initially with 5.0. 5.1 is absolutely better. I'm an android Dev and have access to a lot of more expensive phones and am using this for its amazingly great battery (way better than my 2013 moto x . over double for my use ) and to hold me over until 2015 moto x. Not a bad phone all
Anybody tested supersu yet? Does it still break camera?
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Anybody tested supersu yet? Does it still break camera?
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I just installed SuperSU 2.49 beta, and also the beta Xposed. Camara and other work perfectly. In 5.0.2 the camera stopped working, but not now. greetings
10f firmware update for Unbranded Australian ready for download now.
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Update changes
And touchscreen seems perfect. Finally.
good to know. Waiting for H815 Europe too
did you upgrade from 10c or 10b? can you screen cap the software version with the baseband and kernel versions?
Thanks
Was in V10b previously.
Can confirm 100% touch is fixed. Feels like a premium phone now.
Before the News & Weather app was almost unusable due to touch and scrolling issues. Now it's flawless and typing with LG keyboard is fluid.
Edit.
Not just placebo. LG have fixed it.
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Software version.
do you guys have heat problems?
Bizarre. My EU unit is still on 10b with no additional updates showing.
Never got 10c or 10d.
So far waiting for d or f on EU 10c
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Bizarre. My EU unit is still on 10b with no additional updates showing.
Never got 10c or 10d.
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First of all, where do you live? Second, I'm from the Netherlands and my gf got te V10C update yesterday, I did too after I rebooted my phone.
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I imported my phone from Handtec (UK) and live in the USA.
Oddly, recently when I check for updates, I get taken straight to LG's app update page instead of being prompted to between app updates and software updates.
I wonder if something is suppressing the software update check (which I had previously configured to run once a day).
i wonder what changes they made to fix it. Lot of people were saying it's a hardware fault rather than software
10f isr. From Israel. Can confirm that screen issues have been fixed. Also the phone doesn't get as hot as it used to. Good job lg for taking your customers and products to seriously.
Are mutli-touch tests working up to 10 fingers now? Or is it just sensitivity increase?
xchasa said:
Update changes
And touchscreen seems perfect. Finally.
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uptade size ?
Flat on the table I get 9.
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Flat on the table I get 9.
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uptade size ?
elcom said:
Flat on the table I get 9.
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How are your temps?
Size was quite large around 380 mb.
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How are your temps?
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Temp also seems to have been addressed. Phone is running a lot cooler. Very noticeable. It's definitely not placebo even though I haven't checked the actual temp. All in all a very solid update. Fixed both of the biggest problems I had with the device.
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Size was quite large around 380 mb.
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Temp also seems to have been addressed. Phone is running a lot cooler. Very noticeable. It's definitely not placebo even though I haven't checked the actual temp. All in all a very solid update. Fixed both of the biggest problems I had with the device.
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Thanks for the reply hopefully it comes soon on the h818p model
I just got this update a few minutes ago. I can't seem to find anyone talking about it. Anyone got any information on changes?
Just the stage fright patch
To me this is kind of a disappointment, considering that the time was taken to produce a security update for an exploit that has been around a while, but the release a new os for the ultra/maxx/mini users that could better the experience and patch the security issues is nowhere in sight. Furthermore with this patch, its very doubtful that we will see L on our devices.
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Just the stage fright patch
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Yep, my thoughts exactly.
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Shovales said:
To me this is kind of a disappointment, considering that the time was taken to produce a security update for an exploit that has been around a while, but the release a new os for the ultra/maxx/mini users that could better the experience and patch the security issues is nowhere in sight. Furthermore with this patch, its very doubtful that we will see L on our devices.
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Big disappointment indeed. This is all Verizon has to offer? A patch for the stagefright bug? Wow, I'm impressed. Not!
Yeah, I think at this point droid maxx/ultra/mini users can pretty much forget about getting Lollipop. I mean come on, L has been out for a year and these phones are two years old now. They (the carriers) are not going to waste time,money,and effort on dinosaur phones, especially with Marshmallow out now.
Edit: Just got my "New system software available". Had to go into settings>system update to get the notification. The update is only 2.7 megabytes. Just a bug patch, that's all.
Whoopee! Not!
So if they don't deliver, will maxx users get a kickback like atrix hd owners did when kk wasn't delivered.
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So if they don't deliver, will maxx users get a kickback like atrix hd owners did when kk wasn't delivered.
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Yeah, I think Verizon is going to give everybody a free Droid Turbo 2 with lifetime free unlimited data! :laugh: :silly:
Just kidding, of course.
Surprising that they are slacking so bad with so many 2013 droid phones that receive the same update with the ultra and mini supposed to get it too and the mini is still being sold at Verizon.
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Surprising that they are slacking so bad with so many 2013 droid phones that receive the same update with the ultra and mini supposed to get it too and the mini is still being sold at Verizon.
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Not so minor, read major BUG fix!
Stock launcher update, no more safe boot crashes while you have more than 200 apps.
For starters...
Look at the zip, many apps updated.
Will because of this I bet we are not gonna see 5.1 on are phones tell next year if at all.
And im also gonna hold off on updating in hopes of a bootloader unlock to install some roms/make my own.
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Will because of this I bet we are not gonna see 5.1 on are phones tell next year if at all.
And im also gonna hold off on updating in hopes of a bootloader unlock to install some roms/make my own.
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From .2 to .3
I do not think the boot is touched. Do not suffer bad sw for nothing.
Bought the Maxx at launch and still using it (I'm unlocked/rooted), but have already ordered my Nexus 6P. I'm done with Verizon's inability to update phones, so I'm taking them out of the equation.
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Not so minor, read major BUG fix!
Stock launcher update, no more safe boot crashes while you have more than 200 apps.
For starters...
Look at the zip, many apps updated.
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The "update" is only 2.7 mb in size. There is not a lot going on with the update. Just the stagefright patch that's all.
Verizon took all this time just to come out with a 2.7 mb update? This sucks bigtime.
I'm looking at getting the Moto X Pure. It is unlocked and can be used on Verizon's network. The bootloader is unlockable through Motorola/Lenovo. I don't want any more of Verizon's locked down phones.
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Will because of this I bet we are not gonna see 5.1 on are phones tell next year if at all.
And im also gonna hold off on updating in hopes of a bootloader unlock to install some roms/make my own.
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I don't think the Maxx is going to see Lollipop at all.
Also, if there is a bootloader unlock exploit developed, I don't think this minor update will prevent you from using it. That's just my opinion.
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I'm done with Verizon's inability to update phones, so I'm taking them out of the equation.
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The "update" is only 2.7 mb in size. There is not a lot going on with the update. Just the stagefright patch that's all.
Verizon took all this time just to come out with a 2.7 mb update? This sucks bigtime.
I'm looking at getting the Moto X Pure. It is unlocked and can be used on Verizon's network. The bootloader is unlockable through Motorola/Lenovo. I don't want any more of Verizon's locked down phones.
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I don't think the Maxx is going to see Lollipop at all.
Also, if there is a bootloader unlock exploit developed, I don't think this minor update will prevent you from using it. That's just my opinion.
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You're wrong! Many apps updated to fix long standing bugs. LOOK at the 2 sys app folders before you make ignorant statements. I took it based on the app folder content, it fixed a major bug. I bet it fixes the Bluetooth / Maps / Youtube bug as well.... You assume that vzw passes all the Moto details to us. They do not.
What is the build date on the update? And we are just now getting it.
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What is the build date on the update? And we are just now getting it.
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The build number is from a few mouths a go so this has been ready for some time bet it be the same for 5.1.1 as well.
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You're wrong! Many apps updated to fix long standing bugs. LOOK at the 2 sys app folders before you make ignorant statements. I took it based on the app folder content, it fixed a major bug. I bet it fixes the Bluetooth / Maps / Youtube bug as well.... You assume that vzw passes all the Moto details to us. They do not.
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I'm fairly certain that those apps updated from the play store, but again thats just a hunch.
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Well my stock MotLauncher2 no longer crashes on safe boot. Before it would crash if user apps were more than ~ 100 but I never remembered the cut off.
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From .2 to .3
I do not think the boot is touched. Do not suffer bad sw for nothing.
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Guys this is a minor update so if a bootloader unlock method was created then you can downgrade the version back to do the bootloader unlock method its not a Lollipop update just a like a new build update..Only problem is will this break root access if we update????