hi all this tweak will allow the camera to save images at a less compressed jpeg rate, meaning that the image is sharper and more detailed, the image increasement has been noted though out the tread my many people to be a huge improvement, i also thing my mod works well and with it you can get soem very detailed sharp images, their are a few ways to install the mod and also a few camera settings you can use to get the best possible piture from ur hd2 after installing this mod, please read below for all info you may need to get the best out of ur device
INSTALATION only need to do one of these three.
1) edit the registry ur self and replace the values like below.
HKLM\software\htc\camera\image\jpegquaity\superfine
replace the 5Msize = 643628 value with 746028
2) install the cab "HD2 746028 SuperFine Camera Tweak" a friend created from bottom of post it only does what the above reg tweak does nothing else is changed
3) install BsB Tweaks 1.5, y registry mode is now included with this tweak app which i might add i think is a must for the hd2
BEFORE AND AFTER SHOTS FROM ME AND OTEHRS ON THIS THREAD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5157324&postcount=107
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5135805&postcount=55
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5135911&postcount=56
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5130666&postcount=3
SOME RANDOM SHOTS AFTER MODE
superfine, average focus, 5mp + with quality tweak
superfine, center area focus, 5mp + with quality tweak
Have you tried it? Just being present in the registry doesn't mean it will be always working.
5Msize = 643628
8Msize = 746028
these are the default valuses im trying this now
test1
5Msize = 746028
8Msize = 746028
ok here test1 results:-
autoWB / 5mp / superfine / noflash
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indoorWB / 5mp / superfine / noflash
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both the after shows are sharper and more detailed i think you will agree
picture MB size before / after are also different, so this must mean its made a difference to the picture quality or they would be around the same
pictures at default values are 1.14mb and after their both 1.30mb
Be careful, this could just as easily mean interpolation of your image up to whatever specs you define.
Most probably this simply means that the camera software is capable of working with higher resolution hardware.
I'm not a camera expert
I'm no camera expert, but wouldn't you all agree that there is improvement with the photos when comparing the 5M with the 8M shots. Zooming in on either photo, the images are less blurred and are sharper. And if it were just a software that was being limited by the hardware, then how do you explain the 200kb increase in the data size of the photos. If the camera were only able to support 5 megapixels, then after doing that registry change for higher res shots, wouldn't the images stay the same size?
Actually, after some though, it does look like the improvement isn't enough to make it match 8MP quality, but it does seem to be the case that after doing the tweak within the software to make 8M shots, that it pushed the camera hardware to its absolute maximum performance, slightly improving the quality of the images. So, even though it's not 8-Megapixels, its still an effective method for improving the picture quality even more, right?
DAMIEN123_666 said:
5Msize = 643628
8Msize = 746028
both the after shows are sharper and more detailed i think you will agree
picture MB size before / after are also different, so this must mean its made a difference to the picture quality or they would be around the same
pictures at default values are 1.14mb and after their moth 1.30mb
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What's with the pink hue in the pictures? Didn't you apply the hotfix ?
What's with the pink hue in the pictures? Didn't you apply the hotfix ?
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yes but like most others in fake light, house halogon bulbs the pink is still their but just not as bad, also in day light it seem almost gone
conyeje2 said:
I'm no camera expert, but wouldn't you all agree that there is improvement with the photos when comparing the 5M with the 8M shots. Zooming in on either photo, the images are less blurred and are sharper. And if it were just a software that was being limited by the hardware, then how do you explain the 200kb increase in the data size of the photos. If the camera were only able to support 5 megapixels, then after doing that registry change for higher res shots, wouldn't the images stay the same size?
Actually, after some though, it does look like the improvement isn't enough to make it match 8MP quality, but it does seem to be the case that after doing the tweak within the software to make 8M shots, that it pushed the camera hardware to its absolute maximum performance, slightly improving the quality of the images. So, even though it's not 8-Megapixels, its still an effective method for improving the picture quality even more, right?
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well id say increasing this must make a difference seen as the values for the 5mpixels are different for the quality u select in the camera app, i.e. under basic/normal/fine/superfine @ the 5msize setting in the reg are all different their approx 85000 higher per each setting,
here another photo their seems to be a good difference look at the black key ring and serial on £5
so... don't You think that megapixel count may be determined by physical aspects like 5mp matrix beeing used? why would the manufacturer want to sell it as a 5mp if it's really 8? it's like digging for tv-out on xperia only because someone found some **** in the registry.
jeeez... I hope You'll get great results and fame for this discovery. seriously.
bronx said:
so... don't You think that megapixel count may be determined by physical aspects like 5mp matrix beeing used? why would the manufacturer want to sell it as a 5mp if it's really 8? it's like digging for tv-out on xperia only because someone found some **** in the registry.
jeeez... I hope You'll get great results and fame for this discovery. seriously.
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i agree with you , however Asus P750 is sold with a hardware VGA screen that runs in QVGA mode... so i guess manufacturers have their own logic...
bronx said:
so... don't You think that megapixel count may be determined by physical aspects like 5mp matrix beeing used? why would the manufacturer want to sell it as a 5mp if it's really 8? it's like digging for tv-out on xperia only because someone found some **** in the registry.
jeeez... I hope You'll get great results and fame for this discovery. seriously.
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i dont think its a mpixel thing now it seems to be the overall quality of the pic, ill explain
the reg files say this for the 5mp in camera setting.....
quality modes:-
basic = 403599
nomral = 468660
fine = 556226
superfine =643628
so maybe this determines the image quality and the htc software is the thing that will support the 8pm not the hardware
ok when i increase the superfine amount x8 my total spacve to take pics drops **** loads, with no tweak i can take 2618pics with the x8 tweak it says i have space for 720pics
ok, so if it's not the hardware, then picture must be interpolated to reach the higher mp count. is there anyone reading this with some more techie knowledge? is it total bull, or just tiny little bullie sh... where are these extra pixels coming from? milions of pixels to be precise...
It seems for increasing the sharpness of the image.
In good lighting it may have better results.
But, in such case, in low lighting conditions it may show more grains/colored pixels.
If it happens so, it will confirm the fact.
I think the better photos are just more sharp and I mean a software sharpening. So I assume it's just the way the HTC software processes the photos to result in smaller files. Kind of a trade-off between sharpness and file size and yes applying software sharpening does increase the file size because of the way JPEG works. The difference is definitely not on par with a 3 million pixel improvement.
For whatever is is worth, and while I agree that if the HD2 had an 8mpx camera HTC would most likely have marketed it as such, the original Nikon D1 camera, when it first came out, was sold as a 2.7mpx camera when in fact the sensor had exactly twice as many pixels. However they chose to bin them together to increase its sensitivity... not saying that this is what is happening here, but just that there have been precedents of manufacturers decreasing the pixel count of their sensors.
The cam may be 8MP, but unless the mod makes the images physically larger in pixel number then its not changing the resolution, its just lowering the compression. That will increase quality on its own. Indeed the pics after the mod are still 5MP, just less compressed. You can set the number to almost anything you like, i set it to 800000 and it works fine. Try higher numbers and see if the quality improves more.
Ok i was very interested in this, so i applied the tweek and took a shot.
Wow it does look better, take a look at this.
Is there a way to enable the 8MP option in the camera menu so that we can select it, this is by far the best pic this phone has taken for me, i dont care what it does and how it does it, but good find.
It works for any number pretty much. Might go wild and try 10Million (from the original 750,000 or so).
I think the 8MP is just a legacy setting, possibly they tried 8MP units in early production samples, but went for 5MP in the end. The registry settings were just not removed.
How interesting. I wonder whats going on....?
I have my Resolution setting on my HTC HD2 set to 5M (2592/1552) in camera, but when I take photos and check the properties of the photos I took, they are only 800 KB, how do I get them to be at 5 MB?
its 5 million pixels, not 5mb in size.
Thanks Ran, is there anyway to improve the quality?
Buy a real camera if you want quality.
Check the camera settings and set quality to 'superfine' by default it is set to 'Fine' also download and install BSBTweaks, there is an option, amongst other things, to increase the quality of photos to 8MP. Well worth doing.
The "8MP" tweak just enables on-the-fly interpolation. You can't make a 5MP camera take 8MP pictures.
Yeah i know, but the pics do come out better.
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Yeah i know, but the pics do come out better.
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No they not. They just smoother. And sometimes this option break quality of picture as you cant see some very small objects.
I am no expert when it comes to photography, i'll have to take your word for it.
Today on my walk with the dog I was lucky enough to take a photo of him "Uwe" during run, I really like it but after back home and uploaded photo to the computer I've quickly notice there is a very bad pixelation all over the photo visible at 100% size with my 32'' 2560x1440 monitor
there is lots of hair / grass details destroyed by the huge pixels! so I am asking is this normal ??? photo was taken in HDR mode 5312x2988
there is the photo:
http://f.cl.ly/items/0P2w1W2D461i3L2E1V28/20141103_151549.jpg
and this is zip file with the original jpg taken from phone, this is probably the same as above quality but just in cast server side compression
http://cl.ly/2Q0A2M2v2C2l
This picture has to be considered excellent!
The N4 camera managed to capture the action and the focus is perfect on the dog.
Regarding your concerns, you can NEVER, and I say again, NEVER judge a smartphone (or even point&shoot) camera by looking at it on 100%.
This is because very heavy noise-reduction algorithms are applied to the picture, and this results in smearing of details when looked at 100%.
But I can assure you that if you print it as big as poster size (A3), the result will still be great!
Only cameras with big sensors can produce excellent quality at pixel level (when viewed at 100%).
So, rest assured that you own a phone with a very capable camera.
As a rule of thumb, always try to have as much light as possible in the frame, this will reduce this "smearing" effect.
I have to agree with the original poster. There's something odd going on with this camera. It's either over-compressed at higher resolutions or they're playing some kind of game to simulate a higher resolution than the camera can achieve clearly. Or maybe they have a really bad high-pass filter on these.
Also, I doubt that these will look good when printed at A3 but since I don't want to use the ink to find out, I won't argue that point.
One thing I've found is that the images are sharper and less mottled looking when I use a lower resolution. 5 or 8MP. It's also very sensitive to light levels. In typical Samsung fashion not all Note 4's are created equal. I've got the US T-Mobile SM-N910T. Other versions may behave better (or worse).
I'm putting together some comparison shots and will post when I'm finished. I've taken shots with the original Galaxy S, original HTC One and my Note 4.
A lot of my pictures look way over-sharpened.
Maybe another camera software could fix this, but I haven't played around with it yet.
Obecny said:
Today on my walk with the dog I was lucky enough to take a photo of him "Uwe" during run, I really like it but after back home and uploaded photo to the computer I've quickly notice there is a very bad pixelation all over the photo visible at 100% size with my 32'' 2560x1440 monitor
there is lots of hair / grass details destroyed by the huge pixels! so I am asking is this normal ??? photo was taken in HDR mode 5312x2988
there is the photo:
http://f.cl.ly/items/0P2w1W2D461i3L2E1V28/20141103_151549.jpg
and this is zip file with the original jpg taken from phone, this is probably the same as above quality but just in cast server side compression
http://cl.ly/2Q0A2M2v2C2l
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Next time try to turn off hdr so moving objects dont look blurry on the picture. I believe hdr takes multiple pictures to create final picture
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darekz said:
Next time try to turn off hdr so moving objects dont look blurry on the picture. I believe hdr takes multiple pictures to create final picture
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Yes, HDR is known to degrade the image quality if there's a lot of movement. I only use HDR for still scenes.
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What are the disadvantages of lowering camera resolution (shooting at non native resolution)? For example from 16 MP to 8 MP.
The resolution and file size would obviously be smaller but would it reduce quality of photos as well? Would it be better if I taken photos at native resolution and then resize them with some software?
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What are the disadvantages of lowering camera resolution (shooting at non native resolution)? For example from 16 MP to 8 MP.
The resolution and file size would obviously be smaller but would it reduce quality of photos as well? Would it be better if I taken photos at native resolution and then resize them with some software?
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Pjerisimo said:
What are the disadvantages of lowering camera resolution (shooting at non native resolution)? For example from 16 MP to 8 MP.
The resolution and file size would obviously be smaller but would it reduce quality of photos as well? Would it be better if I taken photos at native resolution and then resize them with some software?
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The file size will be smaller and the resolution will be smaller. You wouldn't notice any quality reduction at all. Why not just shoot at 16mp and crop it to your likings anyways? Thats a better option.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
The file size will be smaller and the resolution will be smaller. You wouldn't notice any quality reduction at all. Why not just shoot at 16mp and crop it to your likings anyways? Thats a better option.
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Indeed, unless there comes some pixel bind mod there is no real benefit apart from the smaller file size.
Although saying that I ain't that bothered anyway. Have my proper cameras for important pictures, phone is for make do snaps
Shouldn't taking/saving pics be faster when lower resolution is selected?
more megapixels means more details (but when you zoom)
if you want to see photos on phone or regular TV or laptop (without zoom) , there are no difference between 16 or 8 or even 6 megapixel
but if you want to zoom or see on a large screen (cinema!!!) you can see difference
srsly...
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srsly...
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This.... People with their questions.... As if they came from the moon.
I have a dumb question I don't think the stock camera has this option but is it possible to save pictures taken from the stock camera app in a smaller size?
I mean it's great and all that I have this 16mp shooter but if you're just snapping a quick reference pic to share with friends sometimes 5mp or less will do.
Cameras used to come with some selection of small medium and large or quality settings which is effectively a size reduction I don't see this option anymore.
It's not a huge deal but it does mean that I get into the habit of dropping the size before I send things with another image editor.
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I have a dumb question I don't think the stock camera has this option but is it possible to save pictures taken from the stock camera app in a smaller size?
I mean it's great and all that I have this 16mp shooter but if you're just snapping a quick reference pic to share with friends sometimes 5mp or less will do.
Cameras used to come with some selection of small medium and large or quality settings which is effectively a size reduction I don't see this option anymore.
It's not a huge deal but it does mean that I get into the habit of dropping the size before I send things with another image editor.
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I found Google camera apk had this option..
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Well, the stock cam won't let you choose resolution as far as I know, but if you really wish to save a couple of MBs you can take photos in a different aspect ratio (16:9 or 1:1 which are cropped versions of the main 4:3 ratio).
Although, I must admit the solution posted above (Google cam) will definitely serve you better. Cheers!