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Which one to pick?

Hi,
it seems to be my first post on this forum.
The question is obvious: which model will suite my requirements? There's a lot of them and I'm simply lost
First: price lvl: up to $250
Other: 2 DIN, full BT (I'd like to use the screen as additional gauges showing data from my car ECU), DVD/CD, WIFI, GPS, 3/4G. Rootability always well seen.
Where am I supposed to look for it? Does anyone have his/her favourites Android headunits meeting my expectations?
Thanks

You can have a look at this website.

Pumpkin 11-C0255: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pumpkin-Android-Support-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B018I6XSSS/

No DVD in this pumpkin. Pity.

I regret going with Pumkin over Joying.
I cannot tell you how many infuriating conversations I've had with their so-called "support". I am actually considering tearing it apart and putting a Raspberry Pi 2 in the unit.

$250 for a DVD unit? Unless you want a dual core, 6.25" screen unit used I think you are going to be very disappointed with what you get.
My Joying quad core, 7", non DVD unit was $300. Their customer support and warranty are excellent.
You can convert your dvds to mp4 and play them on whatever HU you do go with. A better option IMO because you don't have to deal with skipping or pause delays.
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Or download the free VLC app and then you can play any format on you HU (mp4, ISO, etc).
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zzEvilGeniuszz said:
I regret going with Pumkin over Joying.
I cannot tell you how many infuriating conversations I've had with their so-called "support". I am actually considering tearing it apart and putting a Raspberry Pi 2 in the unit.
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Is the support lack of technical knowledge or experience or what?

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Is the support lack of technical knowledge or experience or what?
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Well... it was a issue of incompetence more than anything. They tried to rip me off. I ordered 2 microphones and only one was shipped. They claimed I only ordered one. So I showed them a screenshot and proof that I ordered two of them. I felt they should have known this from their end but they didn't. It took me showing them my order for them to believe me. They offered to send me another or refund. I chose refund and it never came. Then... when inquiring about rooting they did not help me and said rooting the unit was forbidden on the head units. I told them they have no control over what I do with my unit. They still did not assist me. Then... I couldn't get the USB dash cam to work and again, they were absolutely zero help. Offering me no assistance in fixing it. Then I decided I wanted to return the stereo and replace it with a different model and I was told that I could do that if i paid the difference which was fine. However they chastized me that I should have checked what kind of unit fit my car before I bought it. Told them it was universal unit so I didn't need to. Never heard back from them after that. At that point I was finished with them. I Craigslisted the stereo and was done.
Like I said.... I should have gone with Joying.

There are a few on Amazon for around $250 but, it seems the better models are closer to $300. Keep in mind that you might end up spending $50 on the accessories you need with some of the models so you need to weigh the price with what it comes with. A lot of people talk about cameras that are included with some not being very good so keep that in mind.
Personally, I've been holding out for a model with a little more ram. I haven't found a single model with more than 1GB of ram. I'd spend $500+ for a model with a modern processor and a decent amount of ram. I've heard ranges of startup times for different models being 30-50 seconds. I imagine there are a lot of factors including people adding lots of unnecessary apps.

I have a Ownice C200 with 16 gb nand flash and 2gb of ram bluetooth v3.0 and i am quite satisfied, it is a bit expensive, but you can buy the cheaper C180 with 8 nand flash and 1gb mem

Time to upgrade, thoughts?

Hey everyone,
I've had an AN-21 U for 3 years, and it's time to upgrade. I was wondering if anyone had any input on the "best" head unit out nowadays? I'll need the normal car stuff, GPS, WIFI, USB, fast (quad core I'd assume), OBD2 ( I currently have USB, but I can goto BT), capacitive touch, etc. I don't need DVD or anything else on the front, I'll just USB for everything.
Thanks for the input, I REALLY look forward to seeing how much better these have gotten in the last 3 years.

If you Google search hotaudio dasaita, this unit just release early this month and comes with universal modal and few vehicle specialized modal
I think current trend is MTCD unit with PX5 CPU + 2GB or Intel Sofia CPU + 2GB

In exact same boat as OP.
My AN21u still serves its purpose, but I suspect any of the current generation should noticeably outperform it.
I'm leaning towards the Joying 2GB Sofia models simply because after catching up on these forums for the past few days, it just seems like the most solid and popular.
That being said, the only thing that is holding me back is talk of octa-core units that should be a step up, but so far there doesn't seem to be anything that stands out.
I think I saw mention that Joying will be putting out an octa-core soon, but does anyone have solid information on that?

booba5185 said:
Hey everyone,
I've had an AN-21 U for 3 years, and it's time to upgrade. I was wondering if anyone had any input on the "best" head unit out nowadays? I'll need the normal car stuff, GPS, WIFI, USB, fast (quad core I'd assume), OBD2 ( I currently have USB, but I can goto BT), capacitive touch, etc. I don't need DVD or anything else on the front, I'll just USB for everything.
Thanks for the input, I REALLY look forward to seeing how much better these have gotten in the last 3 years.
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Have had my new Joying 2GB installed for a couple days now and it's indeed night and day compared to the AN-21 U. There is some tinkering involved, like getting voice calling to work, but the snappiness and increased functionality are substantial. Also, as you can see, the support for this model on these forums is outstanding. I also got $120 for my AN-21 U which I wasn't expecting.

I think right now there are only two options: a PX5 or an Intel Sofia unit.

Awesome thanks for the followup guys. I don't currently have a cell phone (live in the country) so I don't need to worry about the calling. Do you have a link to the unit you bought?
Corpcd- Any advantage on one over the other? Links by chance?
As always, thanks guys.

booba5185 said:
Awesome thanks for the followup guys. I don't currently have a cell phone (live in the country) so I don't need to worry about the calling. Do you have a link to the unit you bought?
Corpcd- Any advantage on one over the other? Links by chance?
As always, thanks guys.
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I think Intel Sofia has better support, there is a post here at xda with tons of owners.
In terms of performance, I'vent seen yet a comparison between the two chipsets, they've got different architectures. But differences are more related to having 2gb RAM instead of the chipset itself, I guess.
Where to buy? Look at units that fit your car model and decide if you buy it from aliexpress (cheaper and long time to arrive home), the brand web or ebay. I'd recommend go for a (most expensive, usually) local reseller, if anyone is available.
Brands: Joying (looks like the most trustable so far), Pumping, Dasaita (hotaudio), Klyde, Xtrons, Erisin.

For me, the best way to get my Joying Sofia was to order from Joying Europe (Germany). Free shipping with DHL to most European countries, delivery is 3-4 days. As I've stated in other threads, I am very happy with the Intel Sofia unit. It feels like a next-gen stereo compared to the 3188 1GB, however I have no idea how it compares to the other new units.

nyogtha said:
For me, the best way to get my Joying Sofia was to order from Joying Europe (Germany). Free shipping with DHL to most European countries, delivery is 3-4 days. As I've stated in other threads, I am very happy with the Intel Sofia unit. It feels like a next-gen stereo compared to the 3188 1GB, however I have no idea how it compares to the other new units.
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The problem with Joying units is that there are only two for my car model (Skoda-VAG group), one does not have DVD nor SD (not to have SD is a problem, it limits the use of USBs ports, and probably you can´t install Nav software in the USB) and the other one has DVD slot, but it does not have a DVD drive inside! It says: "With no CD/DVD slot, the "Exit" and "DVD" buttons not working", which is a little bit anoying.
But yes, If I could I'd go for an Intel Sofia from Joying from the european warehouse.
Xtrons seems to have an european warehouse also.

corpcd said:
The problem with Joying units is that there are only two for my car model (Skoda-VAG group), one does not have DVD nor SD (not to have SD is a problem, it limits the use of USBs ports, and probably you can´t install Nav software in the USB) and the other one has DVD slot, but it does not have a DVD drive inside! It says: "With no CD/DVD slot, the "Exit" and "DVD" buttons not working", which is a little bit anoying.
But yes, If I could I'd go for an Intel Sofia from Joying from the european warehouse.
Xtrons seems to have an european warehouse also.
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I drive a Skoda Fabia I bought the one with the dummy DVD-slot. The buttons work fine (they've been re-labelled to something else, can't remember what right now). The dummy slot itself doesn't bother me.
Edit: I could take a picture for you after work

So something along these lines? https://www.amazon.com/JOYING-Android-Stereo-Navigation-Bluetooth/dp/B01M670UWI

booba5185 said:
So something along these lines? https://www.amazon.com/JOYING-Android-Stereo-Navigation-Bluetooth/dp/B01M670UWI
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Yeah, that's the one I got (JY-UL135N2). I ordered straight through the Joying web site. They have an 8% off promotion going on till the end of March. Their free shipping is DHL. I ordered on a Friday and received my unit (Toronto, Canada) on Tuesday (with $30 of duties to pay as they listed the value of the radio as a gift worth $80).

What do you think of it so far? A deal breaker for me is the OBD2 problems. I need that, and decent sound quality.

booba5185 said:
What do you think of it so far? A deal breaker for me is the OBD2 problems. I need that, and decent sound quality.
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Sound quality seems good to me, and I think the newest ROM addresses ODB2 issues. Don't have an adapter yet so not sure about that. The overall speed and instant on make it a very impressive upgrade from the AN-21 U. Hands free voice calling is pretty cool.
Overall very happy with the upgrade.

Thanks for the input, I went ahead and bought one. For some reason this one is coming from China so it's going to take awhile lol.

booba5185 said:
Thanks for the input, I went ahead and bought one. For some reason this one is coming from China so it's going to take awhile lol.
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Their free shipping option is DHL which took three days from China to Canada. I believe on Joying's US site, they list some units separately as being in the US Warehouse, but they are priced slightly higher.
By the way, I hooked up my generic ODB adapter and Torque is running with no issues.

3 days is pretty quick, I'm in the Missouri so it'll probably next weekend that I receive it and do the install. I can't wait. The lag on this AN-21 U is driving me nuts lol

Well, I stand corrected. I just got an automated call from DHL, should be here Tuesday, lol. Time to start reading the forums...

Don't upgrade to anything. New units will arrive march with octa core. Just now joying release it!
Just wait 1 more month
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Joying TM121N2 vs TO139P4

Hi folks,
I'm replacing a busted factory navigation unit in my 2011 Camry and after reading through these very helpful forums I've more or less settled on Joying, but would like advice on choosing between a TM121N2 or TO139P4. After sending car info and dash pics Joying recommended the PX5-based TO139P4; looking through their site the only other option that fits my fascia seems to be the SoFIA-based TM121N2.
On the surface the TO139P4 would seem to be a better choice (newer design, 9" vs 8", 4gb RAM vs 2gb, Android 8.0 vs 6.0) but I get the impression from the forums that this unit would be harder to customize than the TM121N2 (which I believe will work with the custom ROM posted by gtxaspec - please correct me if I'm wrong).
I don't intend to do any extreme customization, I just want to be able to fix things that don't work as I like then leave it alone. Primary usage is just navigation and music (since in reality 90% of the time my wife drives this car).
All other things being equal, given the choice, which one would you guys choose?
TIA for any advice

you also an choose TO121P2 or TO121P4:

Please read the reviews on amazon regarding Joying after sale service. I would recommend another brand. If your unit broke after 15 days (Joying policy), it will cost you almost double to get it repaired. I am one of the recent victims with TM121N2.

SummerLiu said:
you also an choose TO121P2 or TO121P4:
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Thanks, somehow I missed seeing TO121P2. I can't find the P4 on their site (at least not in their search) but it does turn up on AliExpress.

cwinoz said:
Thanks, somehow I missed seeing TO121P2. I can't find the P4 on their site (at least not in their search) but it does turn up on AliExpress.
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Get the P4, I just got it. Works great. Service and support is decent, had no problems. My first joying was defective and they exchanged it, and paid me the cost of shipping it back to them 100%. Firmware updates regularly, what more could you want?
If you see an Intel model, you can special order it from joying in a P4 model, which is what I did. My model is only offered in an Intel N2 model, and they were able to give me the same facia in a P4. Really great.

Thanks for the advice folks, I ended up ordering a TO121P4 and received it today.

Help with buying reliable OEM headunit!

Hello people,
I am looking to buy an OEM headunit for Renault Megane III car.
I don't know much about these kind of headunits so I would like to help me if you can...
I want it to have:
-reliability
-performance
-sound quality (as much as possible)
-built quality (as much as possible)
-after sales service
After some search I conclude that I have to choose a device with:
-px5 or px6 (and maybe px30) cpu
-2 or 4 gb of ram
-dsp chip
-ips screen
What do you think?
Also I found several brands like Xtrons, Witson, Isuddar, Teyes, Zwnav but I don't know which is the best choice...
Could you help me?
Thank you anyway!

i bought an EONON? i probably got that wrong about 4 years ago now there is no sound output. it did provide a good service so I'll just watch this thread for any ideas.

You are not going to get any of that from any vendor of these units. Except maybe performance if you mean fast loading and responsive apps.
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You are not going to get any of that from any vendor of these units. Except maybe performance if you mean fast loading and responsive apps.
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What is your suggestion?

I don't think that any of the Chinese head units are going to be able to deliver on your requirements. From what I can see, none of the Chinese manufacturers provide any form of meaningful after-sales service, which is one of the reasons there are so many people posting in these forums. Also, reliability is suspect. While there are people who have units that have worked for many years, there are also a lot of people that post here after their units have failed over much shorter time-frames. The old adage is true: You get what you pay for. The Chinese head units provide great bang for your buck, good features, and good functionality. But you're just not going to get the same reliability and after-sales service that you would from one of the Japanese brands.
Disclaimer: I've only been in this space for a few months after buying a PX6 based unit. I have had a few small problems with it along the way which I have been able to solve with help from users on this forum, and it's now at the point where I am really happy with the unit. It still has some annoyances, but overall I think it has been a fantastic upgrade. I'm just basing what I wrote above on what I have seen in these forums over the past few months, and on my own experiences.

Fully agree... but:
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But you're just not going to get the same reliability and after-sales service that you would from one of the Japanese brands.
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I had some Pioneer and Kenwood in the past years now and I found out that the support by them is not even better as the one from any Chinese seller.
That is the reason that I only buy directly from Klyde and Joying.
There I can say that the support is acceptable... more or less.

I've experienced a fairly good level of support from Xtrons so far. I've had several questions over my 20 month ownership and they've always been prompt at replying. I've received updated firmware from them, and most recently the unit stopped detecting reverse gear in order to switch to the reverse camera. I had a good email exchange, returned the unit to a UK company - basically a logistics hub - for "repair or replacement". I received a brand new replacement unit within 10 days with no hassle.
The reason I chose Xtrons was for the 2 year warranty, official sales and UK shipping. My advice is to be careful who you buy from. You can buy Xtrons on eBay, but the reseller might not offer the same guarantees.
By the way, I since bought a Erisin unit from eBay. It was 2/3 the price and the seller assured me 1 year warranty. It works great so far, just as good as the Xtrons but better looking. But I won't hold my breath on it lasting for years.

Current Head unit models?

Hey folks
A few years ago I was following PX6-based head units here and a few reputable Aliexpress sellers seemed to be the go-to. Now it seems PX6 are still regularly discussed but I can't find mention of anything newer - could someone confirm for me if there is a better specced SoC that has become the new norm for these chinese manufactured units, and who is selling them? Or are PX6 based units still the best on the market? My primary concerns are stability and responsiveness, hence wanting a well supported, mature product that is known to either have a good ROM from the factory or support for one of the ROMs the legends here on XDA have put together.
FWIW, I am after either a standard double-DIN unit or double-DIN with oversized display.
Cheers!

TimTams said:
Hey folks
A few years ago I was following PX6-based head units here and a few reputable Aliexpress sellers seemed to be the go-to. Now it seems PX6 are still regularly discussed but I can't find mention of anything newer - could someone confirm for me if there is a better specced SoC that has become the new norm for these chinese manufactured units, and who is selling them? Or are PX6 based units still the best on the market? My primary concerns are stability and responsiveness, hence wanting a well supported, mature product that is known to either have a good ROM from the factory or support for one of the ROMs the legends here on XDA have put together.
FWIW, I am after either a standard double-DIN unit or double-DIN with oversized display.
Cheers!
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There are a lot resellers of PX6 units. I self bought a Teyes CC3 with a new CPU. The competitors of Teyes are King beats and Joying who uses also the new octa core cpu. The Teyes and King beats radios are quite thin so they fit in almost any car (if your car is supported with Oem panels for in the dashboard) Teyes and King beats are popular in Russia and Malaysia. There are no dealers in Europe or the US, but i hope they can find a dealer in Europe because i bought the radio now on Alibaba.