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Micro SD card continually formats

Hi, was just wondering if anyone else has had any issues with their mojo continually formatting itself/loosing all data.
Mine is literally doing it none stop. I use a USB drive for my music and video files which I've not had many issues with.
But my micro SD is literally formatting it self every few hours it seems. Which is an absolute ball ache as I want to use the SD card for my apk data files. It seems to occurs when I stop using the mojo and come back to it a few hours later the SD card is completely empty again.
Transfered close to 40 GB android apps on to it yesterday in one last attempt to use the micro SD and all my apps where on the SD card and worked fine. I went to bed, just woke up this morning and yet again my mojo now shows the SD card as being completely empty.
I don't think theirs an issue with the SD as I have used the card for about 6 months no problems in my phone and tablets.
Edit: By the looks of it its every time my mojo freezes or crashes is when the SD card gets formatted, making it totally useless for android gaming in my books if the SD card ain't accessible

Ash180287 said:
Hi, was just wondering if anyone else has had any issues with their mojo continually formatting itself/loosing all data.
Mine is literally doing it none stop. I use a USB drive for my music and video files which I've not had many issues with.
But my micro SD is literally formatting it self every few hours it seems. Which is an absolute ball ache as I want to use the SD card for my apk data files. It seems to occurs when I stop using the mojo and come back to it a few hours later the SD card is completely empty again.
Transfered close to 40 GB android apps on to it yesterday in one last attempt to use the micro SD and all my apps where on the SD card and worked fine. I went to bed, just woke up this morning and yet again my mojo now shows the SD card as being completely empty.
I don't think theirs an issue with the SD as I have used the card for about 6 months no problems in my phone and tablets.
Edit: By the looks of it its every time my mojo freezes or crashes is when the SD card gets formatted, making it totally useless for android gaming in my books if the SD card ain't accessible
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I've seen the same issue, i stopped using mircosd cards. SAnDisk 64gb card

Marshmallow Internal SD problem - apps still use phone internal?

I upgraded my 16GB MXPlay to 6.0 and so far everything has been going great, except I'm having issues with Adaptive storage SD. I chose to format as internal, as when given the option it said this will let me store anything on the device including apps on the SD card, but after formatting and installing some apps I've realized the app installation and storage behavior doesn't seem to have changed since 5.1.1.
For example, if I go install some apps from the play store, they still chew up my internal 16GB unless I manually go to settings and move them to SD storage. In addition, this only works on apps that have built-in support for external storage, and it seems like it only moves the .apk, not any associated .obb files. If I keep installing apps and games, it will eventually (quite quickly actually), fill up the 12 GB internal partion and tell me to uninstall some apps, even though I've got barely 5GB of stuff stored on my Micro SD Card.
Literally all that seems to have changed is that /home has moved to external storage, and everything else stays the same. Am I missing something, or is the merged storage option for Marshmellow Moto X Play not all that merged?

nourez said:
I upgraded my 16GB MXPlay to 6.0 and so far everything has been going great, except I'm having issues with Adaptive storage SD. I chose to format as internal, as when given the option it said this will let me store anything on the device including apps on the SD card, but after formatting and installing some apps I've realized the app installation and storage behavior doesn't seem to have changed since 5.1.1.
For example, if I go install some apps from the play store, they still chew up my internal 16GB unless I manually go to settings and move them to SD storage. In addition, this only works on apps that have built-in support for external storage, and it seems like it only moves the .apk, not any associated .obb files. If I keep installing apps and games, it will eventually (quite quickly actually), fill up the 12 GB internal partion and tell me to uninstall some apps, even though I've got barely 5GB of stuff stored on my Micro SD Card.
Literally all that seems to have changed is that /home has moved to external storage, and everything else stays the same. Am I missing something, or is the merged storage option for Marshmellow Moto X Play not all that merged?
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It's an Android 6.0 problem. Don't flash your card as internal. Installed apps would always install on internal storage. Just try to move every other thing like songs and images to external timely. Also use a cache cleaner to remove cache.
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So it basically doesn't work? Got to say that with a 16gig X Play it was the main reason for an upgrade to 6 (MM). Is this just on the Play or common to all devices running 6?

Richy101 said:
So it basically doesn't work? Got to say that with a 16gig X Play it was the main reason for an upgrade to 6 (MM). Is this just on the Play or common to all devices running 6?
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If at all possible, don't do it. I bought a class 10 UHS 3 microsd card (95MB/s read 45MB/s write). In the Moto it maxes at 55MB/s read and less than 8MB/s write. Compare to the internal @ 110MB/s read and 66MB/s write. The sdcard controller in the phone isn't capable of high speed read/write. You are seriously gimping your performance using a sdcard as internal memory.
I did try it once though, and it saw my internal memory and sdcard as one unit. I strongly recommend not going this route if you can avoid it.

scottdanpor said:
If at all possible, don't do it. I bought a class 10 UHS 3 microsd card (95MB/s read 45MB/s write). In the Moto it maxes at 55MB/s read and less than 8MB/s write. Compare to the internal @ 110MB/s read and 66MB/s write. The sdcard controller in the phone isn't capable of high speed read/write. You are seriously gimping your performance using a sdcard as internal memory.
I did try it once though, and it saw my internal memory and sdcard as one unit. I strongly recommend not going this route if you can avoid it.
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Thanks for info. I have a dual sim French Moto X Play. I'm in the UK but it's possible to buy them off Expansis. I downloaded the Indian Marshmallow 6 OTA off the thread here. Put it on the sd card and the phone picked up the update. Updated last night and all seems to be fine. I decided to give the adaptive storage option a try (before reading your reply) and so far it seems to work ok. My Play is a little tight for onboard storage due to Pioneers Avicsync app which with the maps of Europe gobbles a fair chunk up. Avicsync is a companion app for a Pioneer Avic F-77DAB head unit in my truck. Anyway Android 6 seems to be working very well and no issues. I guess I can reverse the adaptive storage if I need to but for now I'll see how it goes and report back here if there are any issues.

scottdanpor said:
If at all possible, don't do it. I bought a class 10 UHS 3 microsd card (95MB/s read 45MB/s write). In the Moto it maxes at 55MB/s read and less than 8MB/s write. Compare to the internal @ 110MB/s read and 66MB/s write. The sdcard controller in the phone isn't capable of high speed read/write. You are seriously gimping your performance using a sdcard as internal memory.
I did try it once though, and it saw my internal memory and sdcard as one unit. I strongly recommend not going this route if you can avoid it.
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You are wrong mate, the MXP is capable of fast writes on the SD card, it just needs to be the right SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161157&postcount=19

MrBelter said:
You are wrong mate, the MXP is capable of fast writes on the SD card, it just needs to be the right SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161157&postcount=19
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That's strangely low internal read speed. But I do like your sd write speed.

I have had internal read and write speeds all over the place mate, i had an internal write speed of 11MB the other day, never had an internal write over 70MB though.

What is the app for used above for benchmarking sd card?
I had a a SanDisk Ultra 32 GB and my Play was constantly "unexpectedly discounted sd card". A reboot or pull sim tray out and back in again solved it for a while. Then bought a SanDisk Extreme Pro U3 64gb and never had the issue again.
Only problem I've had with adaptive storage was SwiftKey unable to do predictive text - check sd card. I uninstaled and installed again and now working fine.
I say only issue, what I really mean is up until now the only issue. Early days so I'll see how it goes.

Richy101 said:
What is the app for used above for benchmarking sd card?
I had a a SanDisk Ultra 32 GB and my Play was constantly "unexpectedly discounted sd card". A reboot or pull sim tray out and back in again solved it for a while. Then bought a SanDisk Extreme Pro U3 64gb and never had the issue again.
Only problem I've had with adaptive storage was SwiftKey unable to do predictive text - check sd card. I uninstaled and installed again and now working fine.
I say only issue, what I really mean is up until now the only issue. Early days so I'll see how it goes.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a1dev.sdbench&hl=en

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a1dev.sdbench&hl=en
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Thanks for that
THe prob with Swiftkey reappeared - predictive text stopped working. Don't know if it's a MM or adaptive storage problem but suspect the latter. I'm now using Fleksy instead as i've used it in the past. It seems to work fine.

K.khiladi said:
It's an Android 6.0 problem. Don't flash your card as internal. Installed apps would always install on internal storage. Just try to move every other thing like songs and images to external timely. Also use a cache cleaner to remove cache.
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Do you have any sources that say it's an Android 6.0 problem? I have the exact same problem as the OP and it doesn't make sense that this problem occurs. I made a post on android.stackexchange.com about this issue, and even Motorola's official documentation say it should work.

toasted said:
Do you have any sources that say it's an Android 6.0 problem? I have the exact same problem as the OP and it doesn't make sense that this problem occurs. I made a post on android.stackexchange.com about this issue, and even Motorola's official documentation say it should work.
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I just am not sure about this but since the adaptive storage came with Android 6 and since then it has started occurring. It's not necessarily a problem. The device decides where to install an app and keep its data in Android 6 at least for moto x play.
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It seems the SwiftKey Team works very slow. Ive wrote them (i'm a beta Tester) first in middle December bout the Problem. It helps to change to switch the Keyboard (icon lower right) to default keyboard and back to SWK. Sometimes it works over Weeks without a problem. It's only happens after a device reboot and SD is set to intern/adaptive.
The bad thing is Google Music. It saves the Music on the real Space. Cant understand why Google fix it yet.
Some folks are very angry bout Android 6 portable SD permissions. You cant move apps to SD when the Card is set to portable. It's bad while using a Car Navigation like sygic. Atm you cant put the (big) Mapfiles to the SD. But i know the devs are working on a fix. Sygic said it will work the next beta.
At the Moment i use the adaptive intern Storage... But i hope Google will put some hands on this. It feels it isnt not 100% ready.
There is something wrong with the SD Speed Format-test too. Sometimes it shows "the card is to slow"! When trying to Format the same U3 again and again it works like magic.
Btw: There are many Users (with fast SD cards) in the offic Motorola Forum with this Problem.
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On Android 6.0 stock for MXP Spotify saves to Sd when you the Sd card as removable storage. Only thing to to is to give spotify permissions to use the storage - checked and it works.It is very similar to 5.1.1 .Not on Bliss ROM - no matter what i do. Maybe it's something to do with 6.0.1 permissions or rom itself .

Yeah Google music saves too on SD as portable (when set in the Options). But it saves it only on real intern when SD is set to intern. That's a joke! Who wants the Music on a 1-2 gb free intern (like the 8gb moto g3) instead of a 16-128GB intern SD card ?
It feels half finished... There are so many (Google) Apps out there they are not Android 6 adaptive SD ready.
But is indeed nothing new... SD card permissions...
With Android 6.3 its ready. And we see something new with Android 7. (i hope not) grr
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If you do a clean install of MM and before you do anything else you set the SD card as internal then any app that can be moved to the SD card will install on it by default. Any app that cant be installed to SD will install on the internal memory as usual.
If you dont do a clean install then you can uninstall apps one by one and as you reinstall them they will install to the SD card, if you just move them to the SD card then when the app updates it will install its self back to the internal memory.

Seems the Swiftkey Devs cant find a solution... https://vip.swiftkey.com/index.php?...d-m-when-moving-sk-to-sd-bug-reported/&page=4

Well I use swiftkey so it'll be a bummer if that doesn't work for me. Hmm.
I've just bought myself a nice shiney new 32gb u3 card to pop in and use as adaptive (bored of running out of space now) (16gb version).
One thing I need to check though, hopefully someone who has used as adaptive will know.
I have an app (bbc good foods) which has data of cookbooks. I got them when they were free but now they charge. The only way I found to back them up was to go into phone memory when hooked to a pc and copy them.
When I've bought new phones I've then copied them back to the right folder.
I know adaptive wont let you see the sd contents from a pc, so would someone be able to confirm whether they can explore their SD / memory with something like ES file explorer when they've done adaptive storage? If so can you, say, download a file from google drive and then move it to a specific location.
Thanks

doncoop said:
Well I use swiftkey so it'll be a bummer if that doesn't work for me. Hmm.
I've just bought myself a nice shiney new 32gb u3 card to pop in and use as adaptive (bored of running out of space now) (16gb version).
One thing I need to check though, hopefully someone who has used as adaptive will know.
I have an app (bbc good foods) which has data of cookbooks. I got them when they were free but now they charge. The only way I found to back them up was to go into phone memory when hooked to a pc and copy them.
When I've bought new phones I've then copied them back to the right folder.
I know adaptive wont let you see the sd contents from a pc, so would someone be able to confirm whether they can explore their SD / memory with something like ES file explorer when they've done adaptive storage? If so can you, say, download a file from google drive and then move it to a specific location.
Thanks
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Adaptive WILL let you see the contents of the *SD* from a PC via USB, just connect and swipe down USB for MTP...well, at least my XT1562 (Sandisk extreme pro) does.

Help Please! MAJOR SD card issues!

New to XDA, not new to Android.
Phone: Moto X Play
Rom: Stock Marshmallow 6.1
Issue: SD Card disappears randomly (formatted as internal storage!!!)
Bootloader never unlocked, never rooted.
I have a sandisk 32gb micro sd card that works when I first start the phone. The problem is that it will randomly, completely, disappear.
Now I'm not, IMO, a complete noob. I am fairly (99%) sure it is indeed the sd card at fault. Ok, not an issue, I can always replace it with a new one.
The issue is, of course, that EVERYTHING is on my SD card, most importantly, my photos.
Even without accessing a file manager (phone idle, browsing web, playing games) the sd card will eventually fail leaving it inaccessible until the phone is restarted. When attempting to access my photos, which is what I need most, it fails MUCH quicker.
Having not used the "Google Photos" app before (just Gallery), I am not at all sure if my photos were ever backed up online, If they were, I'm not sure where to look.
Trying to access them via usb, wifi file transfer, bt tranfer, and even from file managers on the phone itself, result in an almost immediate failure of the sd card. 5 seconds or so tops.
The card is formatted as "Internal Storage" and I have not been able to find a way to get a computer or anything else to read it, and I would imagine for security reasons, there is no way.
Here's the question: Is there any way to get photos off the sd card, that wont take me three million years in 5 second intervals, while having to restart the phone every bleeping time the sd card fails to get it to recognize the sd card again?
Suggestions please!
Thanks in advance,
Canabian

Canabian420 said:
New to XDA, not new to Android.
Phone: Moto X Play
Rom: Stock Marshmallow 6.1
Issue: SD Card disappears randomly (formatted as internal storage!!!)
Bootloader never unlocked, never rooted.
I have a sandisk 32gb micro sd card that works when I first start the phone. The problem is that it will randomly, completely, disappear.
Now I'm not, IMO, a complete noob. I am fairly (99%) sure it is indeed the sd card at fault. Ok, not an issue, I can always replace it with a new one.
The issue is, of course, that EVERYTHING is on my SD card, most importantly, my photos.
Even without accessing a file manager (phone idle, browsing web, playing games) the sd card will eventually fail leaving it inaccessible until the phone is restarted. When attempting to access my photos, which is what I need most, it fails MUCH quicker.
Having not used the "Google Photos" app before (just Gallery), I am not at all sure if my photos were ever backed up online, If they were, I'm not sure where to look.
Trying to access them via usb, wifi file transfer, bt tranfer, and even from file managers on the phone itself, result in an almost immediate failure of the sd card. 5 seconds or so tops.
The card is formatted as "Internal Storage" and I have not been able to find a way to get a computer or anything else to read it, and I would imagine for security reasons, there is no way.
Here's the question: Is there any way to get photos off the sd card, that wont take me three million years in 5 second intervals, while having to restart the phone every bleeping time the sd card fails to get it to recognize the sd card again?
Suggestions please!
Thanks in advance,
Canabian
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Format the card using computer (Not quick format )
Quick format didn't worked for me.
And don't make card as internal, use it as portable

with the sd card in the phone, go to settings - apps, show system apps. then select External Storage, force stop it or clear it cache. do the same to Media Storage. reboot the phone, once everything loaded wait for 5-10 minutes especially if you have lots of files in a large sd card. once that done, connect the phone to your pc (use mtp if i'm not mistaken) and hopefully you can now access the internal (sd card) contents.

jerryn70 said:
Format the card using computer (Not quick format )
Quick format didn't worked for me.
And don't make card as internal, use it as portable
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This will HOPEFULLY resolve the issue AFTER I get my photos off the card!
What I need help with is getting roughly 10 gigs of data off a card that works intermittently for roughly 5 seconds at a time....
-Canabian

pijes said:
with the sd card in the phone, go to settings - apps, show system apps. then select External Storage, force stop it or clear it cache. do the same to Media Storage. reboot the phone, once everything loaded wait for 5-10 minutes especially if you have lots of files in a large sd card. once that done, connect the phone to your pc (use mtp if i'm not mistaken) and hopefully you can now access the internal (sd card) contents.
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I will try this and report back.
One question... If the card is formatted as internal storage, clearing data for external storage and media storage will not cause the phone to "forget" the sd card will it?
Thanks,
Canabian.

I think I have come up with a solution to my own problem. If this works satisfactorily, I will let others know as this may help many other people facing this issue.
I am on a linux pc. I am going to try to use RSYNC to copy the files over. This SHOULD copy files over, deleting them from the source folder as it goes. Once the sd card fails, which it WILL, once I reboot the phone and start rsync once again, it should "resume" where it left off.
Here is the command for anyone else that may need it:
rsync -v --progress --remove-source-files --recursive --append-verify /path/to/source/files /path/to/destination/folder
Hopefully this works the way I hope it will. Will post back with my results when I can.
Thanks again,
Canabian.

I had the same problem, and the solution (that maybe someone posted somewhere in the internet) is using a faster SD card. Since I switched to a sandisk extreme pro, the problem disappeared. Be careful, though, when using Samsung SD cards: my moto x play doesn't like them much (I had to replace them twice before buying the sandisk; in some way the partition tables of the Samsung SD cards were damaged, plus they became read-only, resulting in two unusable cards).

jauffre said:
I had the same problem, and the solution (that maybe someone posted somewhere in the internet) is using a faster SD card. Since I switched to a sandisk extreme pro, the problem disappeared. Be careful, though, when using Samsung SD cards: my moto x play doesn't like them much (I had to replace them twice before buying the sandisk; in some way the partition tables of the Samsung SD cards were damaged, plus they became read-only, resulting in two unusable cards).
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which samsung model did you use? I just replaced my normal class 10 strontium card yesterday with a brand new samsung evo plus u1 card and formatted it as internal storage. so far the phone feels a bit snappy with this card.

dude search a little in this section and i hope u find the fix.i just let u know that our device has very sensitive sd pins and many users had accidentally bented them and didn't know the problem!
i hope u are not one of them!so if you are lucky,next time u put the sd be veeeery careful!i personally didn't put it out from the time i bought it...

pijes said:
which samsung model did you use? I just replaced my normal class 10 strontium card yesterday with a brand new samsung evo plus u1 card and formatted it as internal storage. so far the phone feels a bit snappy with this card.
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It was just a Samsung Evo class 10. The strange thing is that I tried also a Sandisk of the same class, which gave me only the "external memory missing" problem, while the Samsung ones became just unusable plastic. But maybe I should try better Samsung SD cards.

First impressions horrible. Second impressions, love it.

Had the Priv for a few days. I set it up with a 128gb memory card formatted as extended memory.
It was HORRIBLE. So laggy.. Facebook for example kept freezing so badly that android wanted to close it every few minutes. I can't tell you how disappointed I was. ?. I was going to return it.
I noticed that apps took ages to install. Like 5 minutes and more.
I reformatted as external media, reduced the animation times, and now it flies! Not as quick as my Huawei P9, but everything else makes up for it. Loving a more normal Android for a start, the P9 was great but they ruined android.
Now I love my Priv. If you have problems, try what i did with the memory card.
But i wish it had notifications pop up on the edge, when the screen is off.
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RedMist said:
Had the Priv for a few days. I set it up with a 128gb memory card formatted as extended memory.
It was HORRIBLE. So laggy.. Facebook for example kept freezing so badly that android wanted to close it every few minutes. I can't tell you how disappointed I was. ?. I was going to return it.
I noticed that apps took ages to install. Like 5 minutes and more.
I reformatted as external media, reduced the animation times, and now it flies! Not as quick as my Huawei P9, but everything else makes up for it. Loving a more normal Android for a start, the P9 was great but they ruined android.
Now I love my Priv. If you have problems, try what i did with the memory card.
But i wish it had notifications pop up on the edge, when the screen is off.
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Picked up a Priv the other day. I flashed the modified AT&T firmware with international software so no ATT bloat. But the phone is so slow and lags. WHen you state you formatted as external media, how did you do this> And are you referring to the internal storage or the SD card? For some reason my Priv will even recognize my SD card (32gb) I place the SD card in my pc and it sees it no problem. I have formatted the sd card to fat32/exFAT/ntfs, etc and no matter the format Priv will not see it....

The issue you're having is that you are not formatting the SD card correctly. That particular memory card that you are using was previously formatted as internal storage on another device and is encrypted. It's a fairly simple process through command line. A quick Google search will help you out. If you can't find, let me know and I'll pull it for you.

ozzmanj1 said:
WHen you state you formatted as external media, how did you do this> And are you referring to the internal storage or the SD card?
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I factory reset the Priv with a new card inserted. I honestly can't remember the exact procedure, but I'm pretty sure it asked me how I wanted to use it. Either as external media, or to extend the internal memory (So it all appears as internal memory, and encrypted)
For me, the best solution was to use it as external memory.

Anybody else having issues with sdcard?

I've been through a few 64gb sdcards and it's the same thing over and over. I bought the one for t his phone and it doesn't matter. The card flickers in the top corner over and over. I am getting tired of this. In my file explorers I have 3 sdcard slots, yes I'm confused, 3 slots to pit t?g gongs in and none work. This phone is just getting worse everyday. ANYBODY have a fix for this sdcard problem?

podagee said:
I've been through a few 64gb sdcards and it's the same thing over and over. I bought the one for t his phone and it doesn't matter. The card flickers in the top corner over and over. I am getting tired of this. In my file explorers I have 3 sdcard slots, yes I'm confused, 3 slots to pit t?g gongs in and none work. This phone is just getting worse everyday. ANYBODY have a fix for this sdcard problem?
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I have the s8+ and also have gone through the same thing you did. I think it's when we either Odin or flash through a different firmware we get that. I recently updated to 8.0 Oreo, a format cause I was confused with my card and the 3 slots, but, after formatting no issues. I think the software may be causing the issue. Also if yo uh have developer mode turned on, all the way at the bottom there is a selection to force apps to SD, make sure that is not on.

I had a brand new, high speed 128gb SD card in mine, it kept unmounting and then I lost all my files (pics, songs, videos, ect...). I reformatted it from within the phone, but still kept having issues. I then put in a 64gb Samsung SD card and have had no problems since.

tele_jas said:
I had a brand new, high speed 128gb SD card in mine, it kept unmounting and then I lost all my files (pics, songs, videos, ect...). I reformatted it from within the phone, but still kept having issues. I then put in a 64gb Samsung SD card and have had no problems since.
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Surprised the Samsung worked for you because the evo 32gb and 64gb both gave me headaches. I'm with a SanDisk and funny thing is that it only happens when I'm rooted. Are you rooted?

podagee said:
Surprised the Samsung worked for you because the evo 32gb and 64gb both gave me headaches. I'm with a SanDisk and funny thing is that it only happens when I'm rooted. Are you rooted?
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No, I'm stock At&t