Only quadcore cpu? - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What is this, i read everywhere that the Tegra X1 i an octa core with 4x a57 and 4x a53 cpus, yet i received the console today and all apps report it as being octacore, only seeing/using the a57 cores and not the a53 cores. to all of it it seems like nviidia has changed their page so that it reflects the shield tv to be quadcore???
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv/shield-androidtv-vs-appletv-vs-roku-vs-firetv
are other people seeing this as well (for instance if you check with aida64 or with 3dmark), perhaps firmware blocked with new firmwares or is the hardware in the newer consoles actually inferior to the older ones?

I've only ever seen the Shield advertised as quad core even if the SoC is 8 core

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Qualcomm's Dual-core Processors for HTC

Is it true that Qualcomm's dual-core CPU's will be based on the older ARM Cortex-A8 architecture set instead of the modern Cortex-A9 which is being used by Apple's A5 Chip and Nvidia'S Tegra 2 ?
Source:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...msm8660-12ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-processor/
The hardware benchmarks on the dual-core MSM8x60 1.2 Ghz chip used by HTC Pyramid (Sensation,Doubleshot) and the Evo-3D do not look pretty good.
Source:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=258
Need a bit of clarification on this issue why they didn't choose the Cortex-A9 path.
Ok so I just read this report from Qualcomm explaining this issue:
http://www.qualcomm.de/documents/files/linley-report-dual-core-snapdragon.pdf
Apparently their architecture set is compatible with ARM's instruction architecture set and they claim its better than the A9.
"The superscalar CPU uses a 13-stage pipeline to generate faster clock speeds than competing products can achieve using ARM’s Cortex-A8 or Cortex-A9"
Having said that still not sure why the hardware benchmarks are not near the Cortex-A9 dual-core processors.
Adreno-220 is pretty good though compared to other GPU's.
mjehan said:
Apparently their architecture set is compatibily with ARM's instruction architecture set and they claim its better than the A9.
Having said that still not sure why the hardware benchmarks are not near the Cortex-A9 dual-core processors.
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Because bechmarks are meaningless and HTC have yet to put the work into fiddling them yet!
Quamcomm has been claiming that their design is better than ARM's Cortex A8 before but other than few special occasions, they are mostly equal at the same clock speed. Since MSM8x60 is also based on the identical cores, I don't see how it could be better than Cortex A9. In fact, Qualcomm is working on their own "equivalent to A9" version right now.
FYI, # of pipelines don't tell the whole story about the speed of CPUs. If not implemented well, it will simply cause longer stall delays. We have seen this in the old Pentium 4 architectures.
I think the 128bit fpu makes scorpion equivalent to a9 in floating points calculation
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Welcome the New Beast from Samsung Exynos5 Octa the 8 Core Processor

Samsung just launched a new processor line up called Exynos5 Octa the story is still developing but the following are some details that are out
Samsung unveiled a brand new processor that will power its future mobile devices. Dubbed “Exynos5 Octa,” the new chip features two sets of four cores and a 28nm process that will eventually drop down to 10nm in the coming years. The chipset provides significant performance enhancements over Samsung’s previous-generation quad-core Exynos processor, which is now found in more than 53 million mobile devices. The company also said that the new Exynos5 Octa has a power-saving mode that helps improve battery life by reducing consumption when devices are idling and in other situations where full processing power is not required.
So between Exynos 5 Quad which is an A15 32nm chip that's supposed to be used in the SGS4, Krait v3 which is 15% faster version of S4 Pro, and now Octa, Nvidia may as well pack up their marbles and go home.
For geeks, here's some details on Exynos 5 which is Samsung's current "state of the art."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual
And S4 Pro
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Here's some disucssion of Teg4 from a chip forum. People who do chips for a living aren't impressed; especially with the GPU.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6224
Watch out. Demandarin might come around and tell us how great the Tegra 4 is Youg looks good, I wonder if it will be involved in devices before August 2013
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8 cores..wow...overkill.
It wasnt long ago (less than a year?) That reviewers were stating quad core is abit of a gimmich right now on phones and tabs etc.
Im all for it ofcourse..but wow 8 cores
The 8 cores will be device into 2 sub 4 cores - 1 sub 4 core will be an A7 1.2GHZ quadcore processor for lighter task and the second sub core will be 4 core A15 1.6GHZ of above quadcore processor.
The same will be built on 28 NM technology and later 10 NM technology over a period of time.
Again these are not confirmed specs

Enhanced Exynos 5 Octa unveiled, on its way to Galaxy Note III

Samsung has just announced an enhanced version of its Exynos 5 Octa chipset.
Currently the Octa chipset is available only on the I9500 Galaxy S4 flagship.
The second generation Exynos 5 Octa might be called Exynos Evolved and it will be more powerful, enhanced Exynos 5 Octa".
Speculation calls for the new chip to be the Samsung Exynos 5420 and will feature a higher clock speed along with improved optimization for the 8 integrated cores.
Stay tuned for more news next week:highfive:
They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.
Wrong forum,It's galaxy S3 forum section,Exynos 4 not 5.
Theshawty said:
They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.
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It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa
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It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa
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Agreed. Read here The HMP processing does require all the 8 cores available online.
Misconception #6: Yes the CPU is a true 8-core processor. It's just not being used a such in its initial software implementations
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AndreiLux said:
The to-be-announced new processor is the 5420, it's not a new revision of the 5410. It has the same target clocks as the 5410 but with a properly working CCI to be able to use GTS, and the GPU is replaced with a new generation Mali T62X instead of the SGX 544. It also has some other miscellaneous updates like VP9 encoder/decoder. It'll debut in the new Chromebook this fall.I already know the differences. In any case - it's not useful in regard to the 5410.
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Snapdragon 400 Cuad vs Snapdragon S4 Pro

Simple question, I purchased a Moto G GPE and its on its way but i have the curiosity about how the SOC Snapdragon 400 Cuad Core compares to something like the S4 Pro that was in the Nexus 4 which ran great. I know its a newer chip but i havent found any real evidence whether the architecture is superior or inferior to the S4 Pro since it was a flagship chip but the 400 is budget. Anyone has any insight on this? Thanks.
best way to compare the two.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
mike21pr said:
Simple question, I purchased a Moto G GPE and its on its way but i have the curiosity about how the SOC Snapdragon 400 Cuad Core compares to something like the S4 Pro that was in the Nexus 4 which ran great. I know its a newer chip but i havent found any real evidence whether the architecture is superior or inferior to the S4 Pro since it was a flagship chip but the 400 is budget. Anyone has any insight on this? Thanks.
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Snapdragon 400 is positioned more like S4 Plus, not Pro. As in marketing positioning.
Speaking in technical terms however, those two SoCs have a completely differnet architecture. S4 Plus always has Krait cores, while our S400 has Cortex-A7 cores, which is generally somewhat slower than Krait, partially because Krait is an Out-of-Order architecture, while Cortex-A7 is In-Order.
In terms of cores S4 Plus always had two cores (up to 1,5 GHz), while our S400 has four cores @ 1,2 GHz.
Now go figure what´s faster. I´d personally prefer two Kraits
Note: Qualcom had really messed up the naming in S400 series as the chips can contain either two Krait cores or four Cortex-A7 cores. Don´t get me wrong, Cortex-A7 is a great architecture , mostly because its performance/power consumption ratio, but the SoCs containg those cores should have been labeled as Snapdragon 350 or something like that.

Choosing SoC MTK 8127A vs PX 5 RK

Hello want to change my aunt and I am in big trouble
My choices are an Android device based on MTK 8127A from ATOTO but that come with 2 GB of RAM or a regular one based on PX 5 which come with 4 GB of RAM.
I understand that the MTK car goes devices are a little bit rare
So what to choose:
ATOTO with a MTK PROCESSOR and 2 GB of RAM, pretty good support and rom updates or a PX 5 ?
Which is faster and more stable?
Thank you
sandibad said:
Hello want to change my aunt and I am in big trouble
My choices are an Android device based on MTK 8127A from ATOTO but that come with 2 GB of RAM or a regular one based on PX 5 which come with 4 GB of RAM.
I understand that the MTK car goes devices are a little bit rare
So what to choose:
ATOTO with a MTK PROCESSOR and 2 GB of RAM, pretty good support and rom updates or a PX 5 ?
Which is faster and more stable?
Thank you
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From what i have heard, MediaTek has better reputation than Rockchip. Which one is more stable / faster depends on how the SoC is integrated into the platform, how the Software Governers control the clock rate of the SoC. So this is difficult to answer strictly based on the SoC chip itself.
SoC Chip: MTK 8127A
Soc-based Quad-core 1.5Ghz Cortex A7 CPU
GPU ARM Mali-450 MP4 .
System Version: ATOTO AICE OS 9.4, which is developed & customized based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow OS;
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PX5
8 core ARM Cortex-A53 (ARMv8) 1,5 GHz
GPU owerVR SGX6110 jusqu'à 600 Mhz (OpenGL 3.2, OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0/3.1, OpenCL, DirectX9.3)
Android 8.0
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but there are also :
PX6 ! devices (but it's news no more info a this moment) :
Android 8,1
CPUX6 RK3399
2 Core cortex A72 2ghz
4 Core Cortex A53 1.5ghz
RAM: SAMSUNG DDR3 4 GB
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-android-unit-cortex-a72-four-cortex-t3847427
And A72 Core is a lot better than A53, and A53 is a little bit better than the very old Cortex A7
I agree with @mum1989 that A72 and A53 CPU cores have much better specifications than the A7. If the applications you run on the head unit can take advantage of the ARMv8 instruction set or if the workload can be distributed across the cores, then PX6/PX6 SoC may well perform better than MTK8127A. On the other hand, in my day-to-day use of ATOTO A6 Pro which uses MTK8127A, I have never observed it to be slow or stutter or otherwise show signs that older A72 Core was limiting the end-user experience.

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