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Hi developers,
May be you think that this is a wiered topic to post here, but it is certainly important for most of developers, especially those who aim to target the PPC market and don't know the feasibility of this market.
Personally, I am about to graduate from the Computer Engineering dept, and I am mainly interested in programming especially c++, most students in my age look to work for companies in the country but I see that it is not so much feasible compared to the international market, for example, here in my country (Jordan) the work is 10 hours/day and 6days/week while the salary is ($500 - $ 600) monthly which is not much for a computer engineer.
So I decided to try the market of PPC (as many other programmers aim to), and I need some light about the market.
Any body had experience in this market? do you have a product (large or small) for sale? how much do you gain from your product (monthly)? how many copies of software do you sell? and for how much $ do you sell each copy?
and let's look at some companies in the market like Resco, Spb and SBSH and maybe others.. how do approximate their monthly sales for each program for the above three criteria (copies/month, $ per copy, total $ per month)?
for example:
Resco Photo Viewer:
Copies/Month: 1000
$ per copy: $15
Monthly $: $15000
Hope will help us here guys and business men
Regards and good luck for all,
Mohammad
AFAIK writing shareware either a hobby that allows to justify buying new toys somehow, or to create a portfolio to win special orders, from operators or companies that need custom software. Only a few PPC software writers sell enough to live from it.
Note, that customer support requires a lot of efforts. In PPC world it also require to have either a lot of devices to test on, or a number of loyal betatesters.
Well, that seems to be bad news.
Any good news guys?
Any one sells enough? what about donations? are they satisfying?
Let us know guys, the issue is mportant and interesting
Ok. I have this idea that could make millions of dollars if pitched correctly. This invention would work for the Kaiser and many other phone manufacterers but I'll just stick to WM platform for now. How would I be able to get developers to help out on it without the fear of it getting stolen?
I'm currently looking into getting a patent. Any recommendations other than that to safeguard my idea?
i guess you can never trust people in this kind of things. one thing you could do is to find some people that will sign some kind of contract and then make this contract official (find some lawyer to make this contract for you and approve it)
Thanks dude. I'm saving some money so I can hire a lawyer and get paperwork straight. This idea is genius and practical. I just needed the help of some genius developers too. Didn't want to spill the info but wanted some re-assurance.
I was thinking about something.
You hear people suing people over a song that they originally created. The funny thing is that the lawsuit comes up when the song becomes popular and rakes in millions. That's a smart thing. I mean if my idea ever got stolen. Anways any lawyers on this forum. Any idea of the cost of getting this into contract and patented?
if this idea of yours got anything to do with wm i guess you can find quality developers here on xda. just search and find developers that created software somehow related to your idea (same developing tools used, same environment...).
as for the costs, i got no idea and it depends on country you are in. but the costs can not exceed the profit if plans are realistic. so, all you need to know is how sure are you that the idea is good, possible to realize, has market and things like this. you also need to know that you must invest if you wan't to make a profit.
my advise to you is that you reconsider your idea and it's realism and then if you really believe in idea and yourself just go for it. the point is that you must be sure in what you are doing and do it in right time. as people say, time is money.
p.s.: i would suggest you to find some moderator and ask him to move this thread in some more relevant forum (some in general forums) as there you have more chance to get some reply
Here is what I would do first off -
I would describe the entire project and then mail it to myself registered mail and do NOT open the envelope. This will be your proof that you had the idea on this date as you describe it in the note.
Bill
whk said:
Here is what I would do first off -
I would describe the entire project and then mail it to myself registered mail and do NOT open the envelope. This will be your proof that you had the idea on this date as you describe it in the note.
Bill
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But this has absolutely no value in case you need to go to court.
What has is the date you file a patent application with a brief summary of the idea. The best is to to that ASAP. After that, you have about one year to formulate the exact patent text highlighting the exact key points that can apply for a patent (that are considered innovative) and that you want to protect. This will then have to be approved, and then (this can be months/years later) the patent is active and you can start suing potential copiers. BUT, the important point is that the date you filed the application on is the one that is valid in case someone else files another patent on the same subject, the one applying first wins. Note that nothing of it can be made public before this is done or everything is void.
It should cost a couple of thousand $ to get the application done, then once your patent is accepted the amount you need to pay depends on the number of countries you want to protect it in, and can reach $10k or more per country per year.
I have filed a patent application myself about 2 years ago, and that 1 year delay to file the definitive text was enough to convince me that the move was just useless. But my idea doesn't make millions anyway.
Personally for something that is software-based, as an individual, if the idea is really good and has a lot of potential I'd just file an application to have that first filing date in case really needed, but I guess I wouldn't go further. The problem is above - you need to choose the countries the idea is protected in. For software, if you don't go worldwide then all it would take to someone wanting to copy you would be to open an office in one of the countries you didn't list and start spreading his copy from there without you being able to do anything against it, but still having paid the patent a fair lot that is now lost...
Note that all of this is my experience and what I've learned from it - I'm no lawyer and you should still ask advice from one to take the right decisions. It's valid for international protection, if you're in the US and want to file a US only patent things are simpler and go faster from what I've heard.
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But this has absolutely no value in case you need to go to court...snip...
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Very little has any value in court.
I have spent $60,000.00 defending software written by me. It was obvious that the person violating the software had deeper pockets than we did and could simply tie us up in legal maneuvers forever - we simply had to quit prosecuting.
Bill
I have run my own company for 30 years. Now let me get this straight, you have an idea but want everyone else to develop it for you, so you can make millions. Does that sum it up?
People only steal and misappropriate when they feel (rightly/wrongly) that they are getting taken advantage of to line someone else's pockets.
"I deserve all the money because it was my idea," doesn't cut it. Make people feel they are helping themselves as much as you. Give them a fair share and they will work hard and be honest.
Now before you nay sayers start telling me I live in a fantasy world, as I said up front ,I've been doing it for thirty years.
Oh yeah, and keep a real good eye on the Ledgers.
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Thanks dude. I'm saving some money so I can hire a lawyer and get paperwork straight. This idea is genius and practical. I just needed the help of some genius developers too. Didn't want to spill the info but wanted some re-assurance.
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Hire someone.
Ok. I wasn't saying that I was going to get all the money. Obviosly If I hired some developers from this site I would state in contract what the terms would be and what everyone's share would be. I'd doubt a developer would work on a project blindly without knowing what they were going to get out of it. I just wanted information and once I get all this sorted out then I can speak on the project. It is for windows mobile and could be used by millions of people in different professions.
I am not familiar with Facebook app development, but my company is sorely in need of it, I believe. My company is fairly small and I don’t have anyone on staff that is skilled in development, so I need a company that can complete an application project without huge fees. Does anyone know of a reliable company I could hire for a project?
No matter the size of your company
No matter the size of your company, Facebook application development can help your company grow exponentially in terms of customer size, as well as sales and revenue. Sometimes it is better to outsource application development projects rather than assigning the project to someone on staff - if you even have anything on staff! When you outsource this kind of work, it is completed more thoroughly and more quickly. I know that a company like ConvoSpark, which is based in San Francisco, is able to complete projects both large and small in a short amount of time. They are definitely one of the best out there and can help you reduce the costs associated with application development.
I have come across a website where apps can be developed by any person even if they lack programming language. All I want to know that is it really possible to earn some money by getting into the app development industry now for a person who lacks programming skills?
If yes, then what are the ways in which someone can earn money through this industry.
App Designing monetization
What you are actually talking about here is maybe app designing. When it comes to making any app, be it web app or mobile, UX(User Experience) Designing is absolutely essential. IT basically deals with the logistics part of exactly how the interface of the pp is going to be like and how it will look broadly. Of course there is money in it but the skill set required is quite different from that of a developer. Its about creativity really, how can you make the experience as simple and attractive to users as possible. The approach is also different for gaming apps to e-commerce apps.. Try it out a bit and if you like it start looking for assignments. Best of luck