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So, Was not in the market for a new phone, stopped into at&t, great salesman added a tablet line and set me up with the phone for the contract price plus 10$ a month. good deal.
I Love this phone!! but as I'm moving from apple, want to be able to have absolutely full control over it including custom roms.
From what I'm reading I have the model (900A) which has the bootloader locked.
I am going to order another Note 3 right now and sell this one. What model is Best and will be fully customizable?
I'm sure this has been covered a thousand times. Please simplify this process for me as I continue to research. Thanks!
The one on ebay I'm considering is entitled:
New Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 Quad-Core 5.7'' 13MP 4G LTE 32GB Black Phone
It doesn't matter if the bootloader is locked... You can still customise till your heart content. .. my bootloader is locked. .. hadn't speed me.
To be fair. . There seems more roms available for the n9005 but I'm sure with time they will all get lots of development done
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alom5 said:
It doesn't matter if the bootloader is locked... You can still customise till your heart content. .. my bootloader is locked. .. hadn't speed me.
To be fair. . There seems more roms available for the n9005 but I'm sure with time they will all get lots of development done
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You can load custom roms with a locked bootloader? forgive me, I'm learning as I go
So if I have the 900a.. if I root it am I able to change the color themes etc throughout the system and modify it fully or should I go with the 9005?
If your rooted you are able to change just about everything.
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Once you root it and put a custom recovery like cwm or twrp... Flash what you like lol
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So what specifically are the disadvantages of the 900A vs the 9005?
Thanks for all the help!
Until you root and put in a new ROM the only difference is the ATT bloatware. I know becuase I also have a 900A and have two pages of Apps from ATT that I never will use and can't rid of. In a nut shell the 900A is just ATT variant of the 900.
If you want to see all the difference between the 900A and the 9005 head over to gsmarena and compare the 2.
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What can you do with a bootloader that you can't do with a locked bootloader?
Will I be better off with a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
Explain it to me like I'm a child. Like I said earlier, am moving from apple so it's all new to me.
I don't want to get deep into it and realize I need an unlocked bootloader to do what I want to do.
If it is a non issue tell me why.
Thanks for the help.
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With a locked bootloader you can still root, but if you try to flash a recovery/kernel/etc the bootloader will refuse to boot it because it is unsigned. That means no recovery, no kernels, no ROMs...only stock ROM tweaking. The N900A, N9005, N900T, and a few other models are all essentially the same phone with different bootloaders, modems, and stock ROMs. I'd recommend the N900T (T-Mobile) which has all the bands needed for AT&T LTE ready to use after you get it unlocked. The N9005 (international Qualcomm) version lacks the LTE bands for AT&T/T-Mobile I think but you might be able to flash a T-Mo or AT&T modem file to enable them as I think the hardware is actually the same inside.
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[Q] SM-N900V Demo unit or "4G Test Device" Help with Rooting and installing a ROM
This is back story if you want to get to the meat of the problem you can skip this paragraph:
Ok so I've done ROOTING and ROMing a few times now, with my first phone being the Samsung intercept, then the HTC EVO 4G, then it was a Nook color, then the Galaxy SII, and then I bought a Nexus and loved its Vanilla Android goodness.... but that was too small so I got myself a Note 3... I work at Verizon retailer (I'm sorry in advance) since I did a good job last month and the new Note4 came out, the owner gave me the Demo unit of the Samsung Note 3... it has never been updated because the Verizon servers does not see it as a Note 3, they see it as a "4G Test Device" even getting it turned on was a hassle since the system did not detect it as a phone more like a Jetpack I had to start up my servace with my Nexus, but the strange thing is Straight Talk (At&T) saw it fine as a Note 3... Verizon has total control of its updates and pushes them to phones as needed... mine will not update since the server does not know its a Note... SOoo I've gone back in forth from Verizon to Samsung and one just keeps pointing the finger at the other blaming each other saying that the other one is the one that needs to fix it in their system... I'm 90% sure its Samsung since they report the devices as they are made... but I digress the MAIN reason I wanted the update was for the firmware updates, but I have seen them KILL some of the V Notes signals, so maybe this is a blessing... I DO want to put a new ROM on this phone, but I'm a little worried that maybe its "different" then the other Verizon Note 3's and I could brick the device... yet I'd like to try since I am stuck with stock 4.3 and REALLY REALLY want a Google play edition type ROM on my device, something that is totaly Vanilla (GOD Verion has a ton of crapware) with some pen features of course
So since this is a Demo unit or "4G Test device" I wanted to throw out all the numbers here and have some of you check them, and or tell me if you have ever rooted and ROMed one of these... I'm guessing its the same device with some beta firmware or maybe just launch firmware. About phone goes as follows:
Device name: SM-N900v
Model number: SM-N900V
ANDROID VERSION: 4.3
BASEBAND VERSION: N900VVRUBMHV
KERNEL VERSION: 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 TUE Sep 3 23:50:17 KST 2013
BUILD NUMBER: JSS15J.N900VVRUBMHV
SELinux status: Enforcing
HARDWARE VERSION: N900V.07
What I am looking to do is Root then install the closest 5.0 or 4.4.4 ROM to stock as possible without loosing the PEN and remote apps... The google play store has NOTHING good for IR remote apps, but I can live without that... I can't live without using my sPEN... anyway if someone with more knowhow can check these numbers and get back to me that would be AWESOME I'd like to do this right away...
maybe a link or two would be awesome if its a standard Note 3 I'm not asking for a step by step here if its not needed...
StoneComputers said:
This is back story if you want to get to the meat of the problem you can skip this paragraph:
Ok so I've done ROOTING and ROMing a few times now, with my first phone being the Samsung intercept, then the HTC EVO 4G, then it was a Nook color, then the Galaxy SII, and then I bought a Nexus and loved its Vanilla Android goodness.... but that was too small so I got myself a Note 3... I work at Verizon retailer (I'm sorry in advance) since I did a good job last month and the new Note4 came out, the owner gave me the Demo unit of the Samsung Note 3... it has never been updated because the Verizon servers does not see it as a Note 3, they see it as a "4G Test Device" even getting it turned on was a hassle since the system did not detect it as a phone more like a Jetpack I had to start up my servace with my Nexus, but the strange thing is Straight Talk (At&T) saw it fine as a Note 3... Verizon has total control of its updates and pushes them to phones as needed... mine will not update since the server does not know its a Note... SOoo I've gone back in forth from Verizon to Samsung and one just keeps pointing the finger at the other blaming each other saying that the other one is the one that needs to fix it in their system... I'm 90% sure its Samsung since they report the devices as they are made... but I digress the MAIN reason I wanted the update was for the firmware updates, but I have seen them KILL some of the V Notes signals, so maybe this is a blessing... I DO want to put a new ROM on this phone, but I'm a little worried that maybe its "different" then the other Verizon Note 3's and I could brick the device... yet I'd like to try since I am stuck with stock 4.3 and REALLY REALLY want a Google play edition type ROM on my device, something that is totaly Vanilla (GOD Verion has a ton of crapware) with some pen features of course
So since this is a Demo unit or "4G Test device" I wanted to throw out all the numbers here and have some of you check them, and or tell me if you have ever rooted and ROMed one of these... I'm guessing its the same device with some beta firmware or maybe just launch firmware. About phone goes as follows:
Device name: SM-N900v
Model number: SM-N900V
ANDROID VERSION: 4.3
BASEBAND VERSION: N900VVRUBMHV
KERNEL VERSION: 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 TUE Sep 3 23:50:17 KST 2013
BUILD NUMBER: JSS15J.N900VVRUBMHV
SELinux status: Enforcing
HARDWARE VERSION: N900V.07
What I am looking to do is Root then install the closest 5.0 or 4.4.4 ROM to stock as possible without loosing the PEN and remote apps... The google play store has NOTHING good for IR remote apps, but I can live without that... I can't live without using my sPEN... anyway if someone with more knowhow can check these numbers and get back to me that would be AWESOME I'd like to do this right away...
maybe a link or two would be awesome if its a standard Note 3 I'm not asking for a step by step here if its not needed...
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I would bet, if you're at a Verizon company store...the dude in the back could flash it for you. Or you could flash it yourself via Odin or Kies. But first, I would simply try a factory reset on it.
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I work for an inderect premium retailer and I'm the guy who flahses phones but even kies is not showing an update... That's why I wanted someone with the same phone to check the numbers and see if they differ... Mainly for root and custom ROM and we all know kies and Verizon software won't do that... I can follow one of the many posts on this site to do all this but I'm a bit scared that my phone is different in some way...
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StoneComputers said:
I work for an inderect premium retailer and I'm the guy who flahses phones but even kies is not showing an update... That's why I wanted someone with the same phone to check the numbers and see if they differ... Mainly for root and custom ROM and we all know kies and Verizon software won't do that... I can follow one of the many posts on this site to do all this but I'm a bit scared that my phone is different in some way...
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Other than the firmware/ROM it's not different. Use Odin to flash to a a release ROM but NOT to the latest NJ6. I would suggest NC4 and then use Towelroot to root.
As usual, it is up to YOU what you do to your phone and if anything goes wrong..no one but you is responsible.
All the info you need is in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528707
Your current firmware is pre-release, that's why it shows no update available.
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I thought it needed safe strap or some junk (I haven't really got into it since I didn't know if it was OK) I'm looking for a google play edition ROM, isn't my boot loader locked? Sorry I'm at work so I haven't checked the link yet... I'm sorry if these questions are answered in the link...
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StoneComputers said:
I thought it needed safe strap or some junk (I haven't really got into it since I didn't know if it was OK) I'm looking for a google play edition ROM, isn't my boot loader locked? Sorry I'm at work so I haven't checked the link yet... I'm sorry if these questions are answered in the link...
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Yes, the bootloader is locked. No, you can't use Safestrap until you're rooted. You shouldn't root until you get on a stock release ROM...again, NC4 is your best bet.
Read the linked thread.
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If your afraid of bricking learn how to get out of a brick and all recovery info beforehand if that's too much of a hassle don't bother. Honestly you can't get 5.0 or 4.4.4. On note 3 there are no such roms. 4.4.4 is said to be unrootable. There are good vanilla roms but do research beforehand because with you saying you think it needs safe strap tells us you aren't 100 percent sure with what your doing. Yes you need busy box and safe strap and towel root is your easiest way to root and safest. Your numbers are the same don't know why you would think there not? Just be careful. You don't need a paperweight just because you want stock android.
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Like I said I've done this a bunch of times, but I was asking since my firmware was A BETA unit and I wanted to make sure it was compatible with the same methods shown on this site. When I wrote this I did not read anything about the Note 3 yet and thats where the safe strap question came from... I wasnt going to read all the forms on it to find out I needed something totally different in the way of rooting or files.
As for making it a paperweight YES it would be a BETTER paperweight then full of Verizon Bloatware I refuse to use a phone with verizon software on it since I do work for Verizon and I have seen what this software is really for. Thanks for the concern but its SUPER easy, I ask all the questions so I don't get hit with anything later I did not plan on, I have never bricked a device yet, not even a soft brick... and I don't plan to.
StoneComputers said:
Like I said I've done this a bunch of times, but I was asking since my firmware was A BETA unit and I wanted to make sure it was compatible with the same methods shown on this site. When I wrote this I did not read anything about the Note 3 yet and thats where the safe strap question came from... I wasnt going to read all the forms on it to find out I needed something totally different in the way of rooting or files.
As for making it a paperweight YES it would be a BETTER paperweight then full of Verizon Bloatware I refuse to use a phone with verizon software on it since I do work for Verizon and I have seen what this software is really for. Thanks for the concern but its SUPER easy, I ask all the questions so I don't get hit with anything later I did not plan on, I have never bricked a device yet, not even a soft brick... and I don't plan to.
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so my friend what did you do? Can you root and install roms and that kind of stuff?
radhames562 said:
so my friend what did you do? Can you root and install roms and that kind of stuff?
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not yet... I cant get a clear method to install this update... my device is not only on the beta firmware verizon and Samsung don't recognize my phone as a phone....
Ok, we are screw up i have the same phone as you i firstly tough it was fake one :/
radhames562 said:
Ok, we are screw up i have the same phone as you i firstly tough it was fake one :/
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Wait I think I just got the easy fix!!! hold on!!! Im talking to someone thats helping me
StoneComputers said:
Wait I think I just got the easy fix!!! hold on!!! Im talking to someone thats helping me
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super easy to update it if you just want that like I do... go to http://www.sammobile.com/ and join (its free) then just enter the model then follow instructions... only do that if you just want the update and no root... if you're looking for root then follow that post the guy did up a few posts;...
here is a link http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/39274/N900VVRUDNJ6_N900VVZWDNJ6_VZW.zip/
It's been awhile sense ive been on here. While I was here there was a different guy working on the cm12 port and with that he spent a lot of time getting GSM working on the Sprint version. Now it's someone else and its for all variants so its been really difficult to find out what the process is. For most phones you have to do something special before flashing but it didn't seem that way last year when I had the phone. I want to give it to my daughter's mother who is on gsm straight talk. After rooting the device could I simply just flash any custom rom and gsm is instantly available or is there another step I'm missing. Ive searched a bit through the Q&A and general but because all variants share the same section I can't find a direct answer for my Sprint model.
Could someone please direct me in the right direction
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hellot1M said:
It's been awhile sense ive been on here. While I was here there was a different guy working on the cm12 port and with that he spent a lot of time getting GSM working on the Sprint version. Now it's someone else and its for all variants so its been really difficult to find out what the process is. For most phones you have to do something special before flashing but it didn't seem that way last year when I had the phone. I want to give it to my daughter's mother who is on gsm straight talk. After rooting the device could I simply just flash any custom rom and gsm is instantly available or is there another step I'm missing. Ive searched a bit through the Q&A and general but because all variants share the same section I can't find a direct answer for my Sprint model.
Could someone please direct me in the right direction
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1- You root the phone
2- You use this (easiest way): http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/apk-flash-twrp-autorec-thanks-to-t3081396
3- You flash what you want
& next time, post question in the Q/A thread please.
Thank you! But to be clear. after rooting and flashing the recovery I can use any gsm sim and I don't have to do anything special, it'll just work (beyond me inputting the appropriate APN)
Yea sorry about not posting in Q&A.
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Title says it all. I just picked up the developer edition and am using it on Verizon. I've been out of the loop for a few years and am a bit rusty. Looking for anyone who can point me in the direction of root/rom for the 935U. Or even post a couple links for me.
It isn't a developer edition: it is a sim unlocked edition. There are active threads via a quick search.
Here is one: {GUIDE} Flashing the SM-935U firmware onto your Verizon S7 Edge and Rooting
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3415145&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
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would it stand to reason that I am already on that 935U firmware? As I'm already on that 935U phone and not the Verizon 935V variant?
I only ask cause I'm unsure if I have to do the first steps anyway or if I can skip some steps here.
Sorry for all the questions,
Thanks for the help
Yes you are. But double check under settings your build. If you want to root jump to that step.
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I tried all kinds of searches to avoid having to post this question and looking like a newb. Coming from the LG G3 ls990 where the variant was cut & dry, I'm having a hard time distinguishing between devices. Before my LG, I had a Galaxy s3, and it had a very clear model number too. Now I have the Sprint g935p, and I want to be sure I'm following development on my model. I can't understand why there would be discussions in the Sprint forum with different device names (g935u & g935p). How could that be?
Is it only the g935p that I should be fixed on for root methods and rom development? I've avoided rooting this thing for 3 whole weeks, but the ads and other annoyances are getting to me. I think if I do root it, I won't be greatly interested in flashing anything for a while. There don't appear to be too many options right now, anyway.
Thanks in advance.
935U is universal software for all galaxy S7Es, regardless of carrier or version.
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dyandell said:
935U is universal software for all galaxy S7Es, regardless of carrier or version.
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Thanks. That makes sense. I remember the s3 had rom development that worked across all s3 variants. We never had this with the LG G3. Development had to be for, or include, the ls990 specifically. And there was only one ls990. No variations of it.
mjjcb said:
I tried all kinds of searches to avoid having to post this question and looking like a newb. Coming from the LG G3 ls990 where the variant was cut & dry, I'm having a hard time distinguishing between devices. Before my LG, I had a Galaxy s3, and it had a very clear model number too. Now I have the Sprint g935p, and I want to be sure I'm following development on my model. I can't understand why there would be discussions in the Sprint forum with different device names (g935u & g935p). How could that be?
Is it only the g935p that I should be fixed on for root methods and rom development? I've avoided rooting this thing for 3 whole weeks, but the ads and other annoyances are getting to me. I think if I do root it, I won't be greatly interested in flashing anything for a while. There don't appear to be too many options right now, anyway.
Thanks in advance.
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So your working on a new root process? Do we actually have a developer for g935p
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So your working on a new root process? Do we actually have a developer for g935p
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I'm not sure how you thought I might be a developer by the questions I asked. I'm the furthest thing from a developer. Were you being sarcastic? My head is still spinning by all the variants of the Edge. I come from the G3 that had separate development for each variant, and there was only one for Sprint that you followed. You just rooted, flashed twrp, and stuck to development for the ls990, all from your device.
Even with my Galaxy s3, I just rooted with towelroot and flashed everything from recovery. I guess Knox changed the game since then.
G945P
mjjcb said:
I'm not sure how you thought I might be a developer by the questions I asked. I'm the furthest thing from a developer. Were you being sarcastic? My head is still spinning by all the variants of the Edge. I come from the G3 that had separate development for each variant, and there was only one for Sprint that you followed. You just rooted, flashed twrp, and stuck to development for the ls990, all from your device.
Even with my Galaxy s3, I just rooted with towelroot and flashed everything from recovery. I guess Knox changed the game since then.
G945P
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Did you get it rooted
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Did you get it rooted
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Nope. One year out from launch, and still rooting and flashing seems a mess. This so easy on my LG G3 only 4 months from its release.