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Phone is running really smooth after I reformatted sd card.....

I was trying to fix my friend's evo and so I formatted my sd card to try to boot his, but when I put it back in my phone I realized mine was partitioned to run apps off of it so I had to reinstall apps. I did not re partition it. Not sure why some say they are installed on the sd card and some on the phone, but it is running much faster with no lag. It's no big deal, but I imagine running apps off the sd card really lags. But I did think it needed to be partitioned unless the Kings Shooter Rom can do it without partitioning. Maybe it wasn't partitioned before, but I could have swarn I had 1gb for apps.

Depends on your card class mines a class 6 but reads faster since I use SD booster to add a 2048 cache and my speeds are really high 11.5mbps write and 30.5mbps read so I notice no lag except on boot while my card has to mount and load once it mounts all my apps on the partition load in less than 30 seconds u.can use the app SD tools to find out your cards class and read/write speed
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Depends on your card class mines a class 6 but reads faster since I use SD booster to add a 2048 cache and my speeds are really high 11.5mbps write and 30.5mbps read so I notice no lag except on boot while my card has to mount and load once it mounts all my apps on the partition load in less than 30 seconds u.can use the app SD tools to find out your cards class and read/write speed
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Ok, good to know. I knew there was a difference but I didn't realize how slow my card is. It's the stock 8gb one that came with the phone. It's great now, and I don't have too many apps or I would buy one like yours. I will try the app sd tool. Is it on the market? I'll check now.

Yea its on the market as well as SD-booster it will allow u to boost your card speeds the stock.card is a class 2 which is fairly slow but if u set a 2048 cache with SD-booster you should get about class 6 speeds
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Flash memory also gets slow over time due to garbage collection. It can only be restored to its full speed again by formatting it. I copy everything off to my computer, format it, then copy it all back. Phone doesn't know the difference so nothing gets messed up.

I do the same about once a week or so when I backup my card to the pc I usually do a quick format on pc reparation//format in recovery then reload everything from the pc
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You don't ever NEED to partition. I never did but thats because I don't have a lot if useless apps. Only keep apps that you use atleast weekly
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702

I didn't reformat my SD card, I was playing around with my dalvik cache. Used a2sd to move it to my cache partition, bad idea (kept running out of space) so I moved it back. After I was done everything seems to run a lot smoother. Guess it helps to wipe everything down every now and then.

Crossrocker said:
You don't ever NEED to partition. I never did but thats because I don't have a lot if useless apps. Only keep apps that you use atleast weekly
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
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I partition cuz I have a ton of stuff I use on my phone mostly games for me and my 5 year old but I also partition cuz I find kkeeping my internal storage high makes my phone run better
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Soulfire_ said:
Flash memory also gets slow over time due to garbage collection. It can only be restored to its full speed again by formatting it. I copy everything off to my computer, format it, then copy it all back. Phone doesn't know the difference so nothing gets messed up.
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Just to make sure so I don't screw anything up. We're talking about the memory we have when we plug the phone into the pc with the usb cable. That makes total sense since the pc is the same way but there is onboard tools to clean up the hd.

jeffrimerman said:
Just to make sure so I don't screw anything up. We're talking about the memory we have when we plug the phone into the pc with the usb cable. That makes total sense since the pc is the same way but there is onboard tools to clean up the hd.
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or are we talking about the sd card so that is the reason the phone is smoother since I did format it?

jeffrimerman said:
or are we talking about the sd card so that is the reason the phone is smoother since I did format it?
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I'm talking about the SD Card, wasn't that the topic?
I just mounted it as a disk drive.
Warning though - your music playlists WILL BE CLEARED. Back up the playlist first.
(music disappears from the playlist if it is changed in any way, like renaming files, moving them, etc)

There is the ROM, RAM, and SD card, but is there also internal memory that isn't the ROM? The memory that we download apps to internally is like an onboard sd card right? Could this memory be reformatted to improve performance or maybe it's only the sd card that gets all the garbage accumulating?

jeffrimerman said:
There is the ROM, RAM, and SD card, but is there also internal memory that isn't the ROM? The memory that we download apps to internally is like an onboard sd card right? Could this memory be reformatted to improve performance or maybe it's only the sd card that gets all the garbage accumulating?
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That's a good question - it would be susceptible to the same shortfalls of degraded performance over time like all flash memory.
Isn't that one of the things we format from recovery?

Soulfire_ said:
That's a good question - it would be susceptible to the same shortfalls of degraded performance over time like all flash memory.
Isn't that one of the things we format from recovery?
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It probably is. If we were to go into recovery and format it, would we lose our apps stored in our internal memory?

My money would be on "yes".

I asked Mr. Google to check the WWW and this is one of the things I found
"I did it, it doesn't wipe the os. Actually, it deleted only 'user part of the internal sd card' and some applications. I made a factory reset then formatted, so I am not sure about the applications but, sure, it doesn't delete the os. "
there were lots of threads so yeah, the apps would be gone. It's too bad there isn't or maybe there is an app that does the same as defrag in windows to clean things up internally.

Comments I read off the same questions about internal memory:
Android is Linux, not Windows, the system doesn't have a chance to get fragmented because Linux is constantly doing "housekeeping" in the background (Kinda says a lot about Windows, eh?). I wouldn't trust any Windows OS to do anything with a Linux OS, it's just a recipe for disaster.
Don't ever screw with the internal memory. There have been several threads here and elsewhere in which people accidentally formatted the internal instead of the SD card when both drives showed up on the PC. Creates a situation nobody wants to be in.
Defragging is very very bad for flash storage. There is a limit to how many times you can write to each location on the "disk". Since defragging basically rewrites the entire "disk" multiple times, it seriously eats into the life of the "disk".
It also is largely unnecessary since it has much faster seek time than a physical hard disk, and has been pointed out the storage is far less likely to become fragmented on a phone.

Use Titanium Backup...and you lose nothing. Simple format...load favorite ROM..reinstall apps from TB.

jeffrimerman said:
Comments I read off the same questions about internal memory:
Android is Linux, not Windows, the system doesn't have a chance to get fragmented because Linux is constantly doing "housekeeping" in the background (Kinda says a lot about Windows, eh?). I wouldn't trust any Windows OS to do anything with a Linux OS, it's just a recipe for disaster.
Don't ever screw with the internal memory. There have been several threads here and elsewhere in which people accidentally formatted the internal instead of the SD card when both drives showed up on the PC. Creates a situation nobody wants to be in.
Defragging is very very bad for flash storage. There is a limit to how many times you can write to each location on the "disk". Since defragging basically rewrites the entire "disk" multiple times, it seriously eats into the life of the "disk".
It also is largely unnecessary since it has much faster seek time than a physical hard disk, and has been pointed out the storage is far less likely to become fragmented on a phone.
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We aren't talking about fragmentation. We're talking about what some companies call "garbage collection", or TRIM in the context of SSD's. Look that up

SD card as internal.

I have a 128 gb class 10 SD card. If I use it as internal can I still copy my 45gb of music through my computer?
Also what happened to the move to SD card option for apps?
I've also notice with Google play music you can't select SD card as storage for offline music.
I was pretty excited about this feature but I'm a little disappointed.
Maybe if I explore it a bit more I'll figure it out.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I have a 128 gb class 10 SD card. If I use it as internal can I still copy my 45gb of music through my computer?
Also what happened to the move to SD card option for apps?
I've also notice with Google play music you can't select SD card as storage for offline music.
I was pretty excited about this feature but I'm a little disappointed.
Maybe if I explore it a bit more I'll figure it out.
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If you connect your Play (with adaptive storage active) to a computer via usb the computer cannot seem to veiw anything on the phone. So you can't copy anything to the phone. Not very good really.
If you go settings, apps and then select an app you then select storage of that app and you have the option to move the app from there. That said not all apps have the storage option including Google Play Music. I do find that MM manages storage between internal and the sd card very well when adaptive storage is used. It's not perfect though. My next phone will be bigger than 16gb which is silly in this day and age. Relying on cloud storage is all well and good but can be useless in some rural locations (UK) with no data service signal.
I'm a little disappointed but on the whole I've got past the limited storage of a 16gb phone. Note to self - don't EVER buy a 16gb phone again. The music thing I get round by using Google Music and Spotify. You can copy music to your phone via such as Solid Explorer and move music from your cloud service (Drive, dropbox etc) to your phone. Solid Explorer and others can see folders and files on your phone.

You should be able to set the "Storage Location" in the Downloading section of Google Music's settings screen. Perhaps setting your SD card as internal memory removes your ability to select it though.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I have a 128 gb class 10 SD card. If I use it as internal can I still copy my 45gb of music through my computer?
Also what happened to the move to SD card option for apps?
I've also notice with Google play music you can't select SD card as storage for offline music.
I was pretty excited about this feature but I'm a little disappointed.
Maybe if I explore it a bit more I'll figure it out.
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Move to SD card option is gone with MM.
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K.khiladi said:
Move to SD card option is gone with MM.
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Can I use my card as internal but somehow copy my music to it?

Chaotic-Entropy said:
You should be able to set the "Storage Location" in the Downloading section of Google Music's settings screen. Perhaps setting your SD card as internal memory removes your ability to select it though.
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Yeah it does, option is gone with sd card as internal. Hopefully they fix it.

Spacemonkie4207 said:
Can I use my card as internal but somehow copy my music to it?
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The move to SD card option won't be back now until Google wants that and that doesn't seem happening.
You can't do anything with your card once it's formatted as internal storage. The system will automatically decide what to do.
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K.khiladi said:
The move to SD card option won't be back now until Google wants that and that doesn't seem happening.
You can't do anything with your card once it's formatted as internal storage. The system will automatically decide what to do.
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I've heard it can kill the SD card very quickly because of cache and number of reads and writes. How much truth is there to this?

Anyone else is having problems formatting his sd card as internal storage in marshmallow? my phone gets stuck at 30% formatting and never finishes, and i tried factory resetting. Formatting as portable storage works just fine.
any ideas?

Just wondering... Which size? I would assume that there could be a max size per partition...

Spacemonkie4207 said:
I've heard it can kill the SD card very quickly because of cache and number of reads and writes. How much truth is there to this?
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Not much, the card might be worn out quicker but your still looking at 3 to 5 years with heavy writes and by that time you will probably have changed phone.

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Just wondering... Which size? I would assume that there could be a max size per partition...
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64 gb, but i've heard people with other devices that managed to make it work with 128gb cards
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About the adoptable storage in Android M and its work description (basing on analysis of upstream AOSP M code i did some time ago; note that there may be little differences depending on changes done by phone vendors for different devices).
There are 2 possible states of external storage (SD card in particular), the second one being available only if it is enabled in device configuration before build:
- portable - only accessible with Storage Access Framework and file browser in Settings app; most of the media apps won't see media files stored on external storage, as media scanner is disabled for this type of storage
- internal - external storage is wiped and encrypted with the same key as the very device (so factory reset will cause data loss, as then encryption key is changed, and after moving the storage to other device it content will be unavailable); this one has two substates
- - data not migrated: apps data and user data is being kept on internal storage; only internal storage is visible via MTP; if I remember correctly, external storage can be used only for moving apps installation on it in this case
- - data migrated: apps data and user data is moved to external storage and it replaces internal storage for user and app data storing; only external storage is visible via MTP (internal storage is used only for keeping system files and apps installations in this case); I would recommend not formatting SD card this way if it has lower capacity than internal storage.
About the issue of never ending formatting as internal: as the data is fully wiped from the card, new filesystem is created, and there is an overhead for encryption, this operation is time consuming. By default there is quite short timeout set for the operation, and if it is hit, formatting as internal will be aborted (leaving card in broken state). I suggest getting very fast card for this use (especially if it has high capacity), so for 128G the ones that people get to work were most probably ones with around 90+MB/s R/W performance.

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Can I use my card as internal but somehow copy my music to it?
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Yes. I was wrong earlier in this post. If you plug your phone into computer then from drop down menu on phone select MTP rather than charge only, you can then see all files on sd card. You should be able to copy files across as usual. Seems to work on mine with adaptive storage enabled. You can only see files on the sd card and not internal memory.

I have bought a 64gb sd card with 90MB/s read and 80 MB/s write. I hope it works now.

I formatted my SD card as internal but ran out of space. Although storage showed I had 50+ GB free I couldn't install anything.
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You can move some apps to sd card which will free up some space on internal. Not all apps give you the option though. I reverted back from adaptive storage.

Apps like Spotify don't save music data to "adopted" SD card. Google Music seems to have similar issue. I keep my music content on the SD card - do that is a bit of an issue for me that Google "hates" my SD card .
Maybe this issue will be resolved in future android/app updates.

One thing - Change your storage for pictures taken through camera to SD card
Also move songs that you download to SD card as they get stored to internal storage.
Dont format your SD card if you want to see the data in your SD card on pc and file managers.
Let the apps install on internal.
Try to move every other data to SD card periodically.
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habskilla said:
I formatted my SD card as internal but ran out of space. Although storage showed I had 50+ GB free I couldn't install anything.
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Thats bonkers, i thought the whole point of adopted storage was you just ended up with one bigger lump of memory.

Internal/SD storage mess

Hi everyone,
I got the latest Moto X as soon as it went public because I loved the idea of Vanilla Android with SD support. I got the 16 GB version and a 64 GB SD. Ever since I got it, the phone has been bugging me about the storage and today I finally gave in. Until today I kept my photos, music and podcasts on my SD card but the internal memory was constantly full and I couldn't install new apps. So I thought formatting the SD card under Android 6 would make it one with the internal storage. It didn't. It made it worse. I can move apps to the SD card but I can't force photos and other media to be saved there. I was hoping for internal-SD continuity and I got a total lack of control. So now I can't receive SMS and I keep having "storage is running out" notification while I still have 60 GB free on my SD card.
What's your take on this? Thanks!

Since this is about SD cards, I'm having another problem to state if OP doesn't mind. On my Moto X, when using exploring (using file explorer) the original sd card I've used for years, many folders do not show up. The same happens to a video player (RockPlayer), where it doesn't show many folders I have on my card (it did when used on my previous Atrix 2). However, when I go to "Storage & USB" and select the card, everything is normal. That means, only when viewing the sd card via "Storage & USB", all folders appear.
However, applications and games (besides gallery) will assume the first situation, where those folders remain invisible. Does anyone know what the problem actually is?
Edit: After checking, it seems that my /sdcard folder is the same as /storage/emulated/0.
Thank you.

MoCML said:
Since this is about SD cards, I'm having another problem to state if OP doesn't mind. On my Moto X, when using exploring (using file explorer) the original sd card I've used for years, many folders do not show up. The same happens to a video player (RockPlayer), where it doesn't show many folders I have on my card (it did when used on my previous Atrix 2). However, when I go to "Storage & USB" and select the card, everything is normal. That means, only when viewing the sd card via "Storage & USB", all folders appear.
However, applications and games (besides gallery) will assume the first situation, where those folders remain invisible. Does anyone know what the problem actually is?
Edit: After checking, it seems that my /sdcard folder is the same as /storage/emulated/0.
Thank you.
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Seems like my sdcard folder is now C601-8353 under Storage folder, along with Emulated and Self folders.

domi_niku said:
Hi everyone,
I got the latest Moto X as soon as it went public because I loved the idea of Vanilla Android with SD support. I got the 16 GB version and a 64 GB SD. Ever since I got it, the phone has been bugging me about the storage and today I finally gave in. Until today I kept my photos, music and podcasts on my SD card but the internal memory was constantly full and I couldn't install new apps. So I thought formatting the SD card under Android 6 would make it one with the internal storage. It didn't. It made it worse. I can move apps to the SD card but I can't force photos and other media to be saved there. I was hoping for internal-SD continuity and I got a total lack of control. So now I can't receive SMS and I keep having "storage is running out" notification while I still have 60 GB free on my SD card.
What's your take on this? Thanks!
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Have you tried using OpenCamera instead? It's free, open source, AND lets you choose where to store the pics. IMHO the picture quality is better too.
You could also move the pics to the card manually after you take them...

TXJim said:
Have you tried using OpenCamera instead? It's free, open source, AND lets you choose where to store the pics. IMHO the picture quality is better too.
You could also move the pics to the card manually after you take them...
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Great call, thanks for the tip.

I haven't had any problems saving photos or other media to my SD card with adoptable storage. This is something you should be able to specify in preferences whether you are using adoptable storage or not. If this doesn't work with some apps just use a file manager to move the files to the SD card.
Sometimes when I move apps to my SD Card, I would get similar messages about being out of space, even though this wasn't the case. Deleting the cache on SD card seemed to fix the problem. There can also be a problem if your SD card is too slow. However, you would probably get an alert if that was the case.

My advise erase it all internal and sd card start from a blank state the phone should give you the option to mount the sd as internal I don't like how it is implemented so I chose not to use it.

For some strange reason my phone will not read my SD card I have it formatted to internal stage and now it says searching for SD card. I'm so mad I've searched all over with no solution, I'm about to get a new phone and scrap this one, sorry I'm just very upset and I had to vent, of anyone knows of this type of issue please share.
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galaxy note 3 heating very

hello i insert in phone 128gb Samsung Evo sd card in the card about 60gb music... 70gb free space. when insert very quickly heeat........ near camera and sd card slot ............. when i remove sd card phone not warm...

Probably loaded with an excess of smileys .
Take the data off the card and format it and check .

JJEgan said:
Probably loaded with an excess of smileys .
Take the data off the card and format it and check .
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why format? it loose files... i formated still the same

I said take the data off.
Possible you have a fake card test it .
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I deleted all data from sd card and still little bit warm. What happen when i upload just 14gb music?

I tried 16gb sd card. Still problem. Heating..... exactly the same overheat.... in sd card have 3400 musics. About ~2GB free space in sd card.

Activate developer options and turn on CPU usage overlay.
I had a similar issue where gallery was constantly trying to index (or something) millions of files on my SDcard.
I was only able to fix it with a factory restore.

Classic case of Mediascanner. This issue has been around for years. Too many files on the MicroSD causes this. Mediascanner constantly indexes the MicroSD, and if there are too many files, it overheats, lags or even crashes.
Just drop a .nomedia file in every folder that doesn't need to show up in the Gallery. (You can find several of them already on the card or on the phone. if not, make an empty text file, delete the name and extension, and name it '.nomedia'.)
(Drop one in the folder with Music too, then use a music player that allows using hidden folders.)

Nokia 6 with SD card?

Is anyone using their Nokia 6 with an SD card?
How does it work? well? Can you move pictures/videos/documents to the SD easily?
what size SD? micro?
Thanks!

I have a 200gb microSD card in my US Nokia 6. All my apps can read files on the card, but because I set it up as removeable storage instead of simulated internal storage (it asks you to choose after you insert the card), only apps that know to request special permission can write to the SD card. Most file managers I've tried can handle writing to it, other apps like text editors are more hit and miss.
I think if I had set it up differently it might work with more apps, but I was worried that would result in it being encrypted and getting cluttered with random data files from every app. If root is ever figured out with this phone then I should be able to have better control of which apps can write to the SD card.

el_mariachi_4 said:
Is anyone using their Nokia 6 with an SD card?
How does it work? well? Can you move pictures/videos/documents to the SD easily?
what size SD? micro?
Thanks!
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It is easy to use. When I taking photo, all image files stock on SDCARD.

thriceberg said:
I have a 200gb microSD card in my US Nokia 6. All my apps can read files on the card, but because I set it up as removeable storage instead of simulated internal storage (it asks you to choose after you insert the card), only apps that know to request special permission can write to the SD card. Most file managers I've tried can handle writing to it, other apps like text editors are more hit and miss.
I think if I had set it up differently it might work with more apps, but I was worried that would result in it being encrypted and getting cluttered with random data files from every app. If root is ever figured out with this phone then I should be able to have better control of which apps can write to the SD card.
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Can it read more than 200gb? I'm thinking of shelling 256gb max but might go for 128gb or 200gb for sandisk as I have files need to be moved. I keep looking at websites that the phone can only support of upto 128gb. thank you

I'm using a class 10 32GB SanDisk SD card with mine and it runs smoothly. I can move a lot of files at once to it and expect transactions to be generally quick. Make sure to set it up as external media otherwise you'd simply be merging the card with your internal storage and won't be able to control what goes into your card. Root is a must for this phone it seems.
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lambdaxi said:
Root is a must for this phone it seems.
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It's a must for most phones... Pity there's no ay to do it with the locked bootloader...