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nice camera, but...

ok, i'm quite satisfied with the nexus 4's camera but yesterday when I was comparing shots with my friend who owns an htc one x, i got a little bit jealous as her pictures had a wider angle lol. when she previews pics, it really occupies the entire screen. so are there any apps that can help me get wider angle pics or is it a hardware limitation? because my friend also showed me that you can change the pic dimension from 4:3 to 16:9 in htc's stock camera app, and i can't seem to find that in my camera app.

Try Camera MX. It's set to 16:9 by default
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.magix.camera_mx
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If you're talking about the screen, I agree our N4's view angle is nowhere near HOX. And there're no software could help that, it's from the design... pixel arrangement or something. Your another point, when viewing in Gallery, I also note that the portion where statusbar located is wasted, we can't use full screen. This happen to JB gallery while ICS gallery also use statusbar space. I'm not sure what the reason behind this. If you like, you can try QuickPic... it might use full screen, but I still think stock gallery is better.
edited: Pardon me for I confused "wide angle" with "view angle".... just ignore my reply then

AW: nice camera, but...
16:9 just crops the pic. You can just zoom to achieve the same. Sensors are 4:3 so it will just worsen the quality.
The other thing is the focal length. I won't go into detail as it is explained enough on the web, but the nex has a fl of 33mm in 35mm equivalent and the hox has 28mm which means it has a wider angle, thus getting more covert, but it also has drawbacks.
And btw, this is an interesting post:
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13her35bk2ldjj3a235fvlh1xe0eximz
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abufaka said:
16:9 just crops the pic. You can just zoom to achieve the same. Sensors are 4:3 so it will just worsen the quality.
The other thing is the focal length. I won't go into detail as it is explained enough on the web, but the nex has a fl of 33mm in 35mm equivalent and the hox has 28mm which means it has a wider angle, thus getting more covert, but it also has drawbacks.
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Ok, it is a hardware limitation then. i know i'm just being lazy here but can you just give me the biggest drawback of wider angle cameras? just so i feel better lol

Haha, if camera's that important, should have switched, or get a hand-held on the side, I guess.

discovered another flaw today. the screen of htc one x looks much more vibrant than the nex4.
haha i still love my phone, it's blazing fast and i know it won't easily get obsolete. But I wish review sites pointed these weaknesses out.

cribol said:
discovered another flaw today. the screen of htc one x looks much more vibrant than the nex4.
haha i still love my phone, it's blazing fast and i know it won't easily get obsolete. But I wish review sites pointed these weaknesses out.
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Hox screen is over saturated. N4 is more accurate so less punchy. I have both to compare against reference images.
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cribol said:
Ok, it is a hardware limitation then. i know i'm just being lazy here but can you just give me the biggest drawback of wider angle cameras? just so i feel better lol
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Heh heh... with all other things being equal, there is essentially no advantage/disadvantage to either of these two focal lengths. It simply means that when composing the exact same picture, The nexus 4 will need to be a little further away than the HTC. Conversely, your friend will need to get closer. Sometimes it is easier to do one than the other, other times not.

AW: nice camera, but...
cribol said:
Ok, it is a hardware limitation then. i know i'm just being lazy here but can you just give me the biggest drawback of wider angle cameras? just so i feel better lol
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Lines get bent. The wider the angle the more fisheyey it gets.
But that's the extremes. I just realised poster before me essentialy said the correct thing for this exact use case.
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cribol said:
ok, i'm quite satisfied with the nexus 4's camera but yesterday when I was comparing shots with my friend who owns an htc one x, i got a little bit jealous as her pictures had a wider angle lol. when she previews pics, it really occupies the entire screen. so are there any apps that can help me get wider angle pics or is it a hardware limitation? because my friend also showed me that you can change the pic dimension from 4:3 to 16:9 in htc's stock camera app, and i can't seem to find that in my camera app.
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Try photo sphere, you won't need more angle than that

What on earth? this thing takes amazing photo's!

What on earth is everyone talking about?!?!
This thing takes AWESOME pics?!
I have not snapped ONE single disappointing picture so far.

How about some examples

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How about some examples
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Coming right up.
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here we go

Those are actually pretty nice pics. Almost any camera will take amazing near focus shots though.
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As far as photos go from this phone, they're very nice, but sadly, the purple hue is still highly visible in both shots (especially in the area of your cats ears)
I absolutely LOVE my Moto X, but the camera makes me sad. I hope for a fix in an upcoming firmware update.
P.S: Your cat is pretty

djkraemer said:
As far as photos go from this phone, they're very nice, but sadly, the purple hue is still highly visible in both shots (especially in the area of your cats ears)
I absolutely LOVE my Moto X, but the camera makes me sad. I hope for a fix in an upcoming firmware update.
P.S: Your cat is pretty
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Thanks =) She's an F2 Savannah, Amazing animal.
I guess i'm easy to please? i don't look at small details with stuff like a purple hue, and etc.

computermilk said:
Thanks =) She's an F2 Savannah, Amazing animal.
I guess i'm easy to please? i don't look at small details with stuff like a purple hue, and etc.
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Sadly, it's one of the biggest problems this camera has. The problem is more evident in scenes with a lot of white objects or backgrounds.
Take the attached image as an example (yep, I brought Starbucks into a bar, lol)
Thankfully this is something that will likely be fixed in a firmware update.

No offense the first pic you posted is absolutely terrible. The colors are muted out and the entire thing is red.
Unless you're telling me you have red paper towels in your house.

as long as we're doing this. I know nothing about photography, i just thought these were decent pics
the third one i only put because somethign about the water and the way it caught the bird in flight so crisp i thought was amazing

This is with a quick auto correct of some colors and look at the difference. And it still looks like it's got a bit of a red tint.

Hand76 said:
This is with a quick auto correct of some colors and look at the difference. And it still looks like it's got a bit of a red tint.
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What app did you use to do that?
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Nice pics! Just if phones have the ability to edit a photo like a Photoshop does..

phositadc said:
What app did you use to do that?
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Pixlr

no issues with the tint... I can fix that in 2 clicks. my problem is the "dry brush filter" look. You can't get those pixels back.

Youre all making laugh, I guess a benefit to being color blind is I don't notice the purple hue:sly:
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It's a phone that has a camera, I don't expect to shoot National Geographic on this thing, so for me the camera is just fine.

A trick that you can try to prevent some of the redness or out of balance colors (not the purple hue) is to cover the light sensor on the front off the phone with your finger and then find something white to aim at and rebalance the shot before taking the picture. The sensor is to the left of the earpiece. It seems to help a lot when taking pictures in rooms lit by yellower CFLs.
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Regarding all of the complaints of the Moto X's camera, are (some or all of) these things fixable by software/firmware updates or is it in the hardware? Anyone know? Details would be nice. Thanks.

ShamanicEnzan said:
It's a phone that has a camera, I don't expect to shoot National Geographic on this thing, so for me the camera is just fine.
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I think this is a pretty bad attitude. There are decent cameras in phones that cost just as much or less. There's no reason to make excuses, the camera can be bad, but don't write it off like it's not important or they couldn't include a decent sensor.

Checking the Z1 camera for focus issues

Was digging around in other sections and came across an interesting camera test for the S4.
Any one notice this particular issue ? Every thing must be clear along the focus plane or you have a faulty camera.
There is no depth of field question here, everything is at the same distance (more or less, slight arc, should not matter).
Find the bottle test quite instructive.

There was a topic about this. We see all the xperia z1 get strange focus. We don't know if they have faulty lens or it' s a consequence of the wide-angle lens in a little space, but with the new firmware this phenomenon is less evident
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One Twelve said:
Was digging around in other sections and came across an interesting camera test for the S4.
Any one notice this particular issue ? Every thing must be clear along the focus plane or you have a faulty camera.
There is no depth of field question here, everything is at the same distance (more or less, slight arc, should not matter).
Find the bottle test quite instructive.
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So what is the point of this thread? This is a Sony thread not samsung.
All lenses will have some blurring, especially in the corners. This example you show here has nothing to do with focus but a badly aligned lens, so this person should be taking it back.
So what do you want to know? That no Sony Z1 will have this issue, well maybe, anything is possible, and if it did take it back.

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So what is the point of this thread? This is a Sony thread not samsung.
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Point is that test made it really easy to see whether the lens has any issues. Samsung or not does not matter.
danw_oz said:
All lenses will have some blurring, especially in the corners. This example you show here has nothing to do with focus but a badly aligned lens, so this person should be taking it back.
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How many people can distinguish between bad alignment or focus issues ? lack of focus, they see problem.
Hence wanted people to post pictures and say what is & isn't acceptable blurring. That is really what i want to get out of this thread.
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So what do you want to know? That no Sony Z1 will have this issue, well maybe, anything is possible, and if it did take it back.
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Some are bound to have an issue. People should know what to look out for.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635852723265/
Right side is blurred (look on grass and trees)
That what I've found browsing my problem with "ouf of focus right side", have the same issue with near 30% blurred, and that is completely hardware issue, and more - I had similar on my Xperia ZL (lucky I am)!
And here is my photo

You have a replacement coming ?

One Twelve said:
You have a replacement coming ?
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No

Bobeobi said:
No
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Why Sony refused to replace under warranty ?

One Twelve said:
Why Sony refused to replace under warranty ?
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My phone has only regional warranty (Poland) and I'm from another country (Ukraine), so, I'm stuck with it for now

Some left-hand blur .. how much before I should get my Z5 replaced?

Just got my Z5 and loving it ... except the unit I got DOES seem to suffer from some left-hand blur Kind of sad since when I was testing the unit in the store there didn't seem to be any problem (probably I was looking at around the middle part or probably because I was only using the brochures there as my test shots). Granted, I did come across and pass 2 units that had worse and more obvious blurs than the one I have.
Here are links to the image (right-side up first, then upside-down): http://imgur.com/a/gc1qI
The blur is seen near the top-left corner and also a little bit on the bottom-left corner. This can be seen by observing the leaves and grass. Seeing as the blur is only on the left-hand side, I'm guessing it isn't just due to the wide lens?
I'm a bit troubled if I should have it replaced or not since as mentioned earlier, I came across units with worse blur. Should I have it replaced? Is there really a Z5 / Z5c there with 'perfect' lens with no blur?
Thanks everyone!

They look normal to me, TBH. I could show you pictures from couple other phones with this kind of 'slight' blur. We're talking landscape shots here - not macros. The third one does have some blurs but I could see blur across the whole edge & few other spots (proly due to moving objects and/or shaky hands). But it's your call anyway

schecter7 said:
They look normal to me, TBH. I could show you pictures from couple other phones with this kind of 'slight' blur. We're talking landscape shots here - not macros. The third one does have some blurs but I could see blur across the whole edge & few other spots (proly due to moving objects and/or shaky hands). But it's your call anyway
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Oh really? Probably I'm just nitpicking but it doesn't hurt to be safe. To be honest, my Z1 has a much more pronounced blur than this which I didn't really notice until now when I tried comparing it and looking at the photos carefully.
Thanks for checking it out!

Bro it is software default not hardware because if you turn the phone 180 degre you have the same point blurred . It is focus fault waiting to new update in the coming days

karrouma said:
Bro it is software default not hardware because if you turn the phone 180 degre you have the same point blurred . It is focus fault waiting to new update in the coming days
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Anxiously waiting for that

karrouma said:
Bro it is software default not hardware because if you turn the phone 180 degre you have the same point blurred . It is focus fault waiting to new update in the coming days
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Sure it's a software problem?
Not a misalignment lenses?

It doesn't look it has blurring -- the slight distortion on the corners tend to be an effect of wide angle lenses

komugi said:
It doesn't look it has blurring -- the slight distortion on the corners tend to be an effect of wide angle lenses
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I will buy the Z5, but I'm afraid that blur problem they are talking about! I do not know what to do! Some say it is software, others say it's normal ...

To me, your pics look perfect I have more blur on my Z3 & i never notced before i started reading it in Z5 thread some days ago

BR4DOKYBrazil said:
I will buy the Z5, but I'm afraid that blur problem they are talking about! I do not know what to do! Some say it is software, others say it's normal ...
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Some are very obviously not normal -- the OP in this thread, his camera is fine. I have no idea if it's software or not.

Mano1982 said:
To me, your pics look perfect I have more blur on my Z3 & i never notced before i started reading it in Z5 thread some days ago
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Thanks I can relate because I also had a Z1 that had blurring and didn't realize it till I was comparing its shots with the Z5. I was surprised since I was using it and the camera quite happily for almost 2 years and thought it was normal.
Lucky me I guess for getting a non-defective camera on my Z5
Some are very obviously not normal -- the OP in this thread, his camera is fine. I have no idea if it's software or not.
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You are right, I saw some pictures that very obviously had the problem like this (upside-down version)

bloodfire1004 said:
You are right, I saw some pictures that very obviously had the problem like this (upside-down version)
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That camera module is damaged. You can see the black lines across the image. If not by factory fault then that can happen if you expose the camera to direct sunlight for to long or IR light like the strobe/laser "cannons" in some concerts and clubs. If that hits the sensor directly then bye bye..!

I took a picture hoping to check if I have the camera blur. Can someone help out? The blur on the plant on the right side is caused by taking the pic close to it. I tried to take it at 180 degrees (2nd pic) but I didn't manage to take a pic close to the other one.
http://imgur.com/a/OuqHZ

Is my camera performance typical? Or is there something wrong with my lens?

Coming from an iPhone 7 Plus I really want to love this phone. I knew the image quality from the camera wouldn't be as good but I didn't think it would be this bad.
If you look at the images I attached, unedited, no HDR, you'll see the corners are super soft, tons of fringing and chromatic abberation, and distortion.
Is this typical performance for this phone or did I get a dud?
Thanks for any input!
Andrew

Angdvl089 said:
Coming from an iPhone 7 Plus I really want to love this phone. I knew the image quality from the camera wouldn't be as good but I didn't think it would be this bad.
If you look at the images I attached, unedited, no HDR, you'll see the corners are super soft, tons of fringing and chromatic abberation, and distortion.
Is this typical performance for this phone or did I get a dud?
Thanks for any input!
Andrew
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What's wrong with it

Irvin16 said:
What's wrong with it
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Thought it was just me! I don't see anything wrong either.
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mayb lens defect
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I must apologize everyone, I've been shooting with Canon DSLRs for a while and now Fujifilm cameras. I guess I shouldn't really be comparing a $300 phone camera to those higher end cameras.
But I have noticed some very serious blurring and color artifacts in the corners of my photos. I just wasn't sure if this was across the board or if I had a specific problem. Here is a crop from the top left corner of the first photo of the tree.

Angdvl089 said:
I must apologize everyone, I've been shooting with Canon DSLRs for a while and now Fujifilm cameras. I guess I shouldn't really be comparing a $300 phone camera to those higher end cameras.
But I have noticed some very serious blurring and color artifacts in the corners of my photos. I just wasn't sure if this was across the board or if I had a specific problem. Here is a crop from the top left corner of the first photo of the tree.
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If you are familiar with DSLRs.. i would definitely use the advanced mode on the camera. You'll have a lot more control over the photos.
It's hard for me to say why the corner of that photo is blurry.. maybe the limb was moving? Closer? Dunno. It looks more like an autofocus thing. Try the "infinity" focus setting in advanced too.
I personally haven't gotten any kind of consistent blurring or artifacts in the images but I DO mostly use the advanced mode.
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