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Lollipop on Turbo/Maxx - Root, Roadmap and Changes

I just got off the phone with a guy from Motorola Brazil.
He clarified a lot of things. Some are good news, others not really.
DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any actions you take after reading this. If you try anything and it doesn't work, it's you to you to find a way out. You can always post it here and the community will try to help you. It's your phone. Your actions.
Release Date
He didn't give me a date, rather, he told me the roadmap to it. Motorola is scaling upwards.
G > X > G2 > X+1 > Maxx/Turbo
Reminder: Verizon says when Turbo gets it after Motorola ships it to Verizon.
They are testing the waters on smaller and cheaper devices. Apparently the "under-the-hood" changes are pretty complicated and giving them some headaches. I'd say it makes sense to what @Chainfire has been saying for quite a while now. Many security changes that are affecting how you can interact with the kernel and the init.d process, for example.
Bootloader Unlockability
Moto Maxx is unlockable. All you need is to go to their website and follow instructions. In KITKAT
Apparently, Motorola still hasn't confirmed if they'll allow their customers to unlock the bootloader once Lollipop hits.
Like I said, there's no confirmation. Motorola can always just be a good pal and keep on allowing it, it's all just speculations.
Recovery Firmware
It's the same firmware as the Moto X AND the Moto X 2014. It's up to you to try it out. I might try it next weekend if I got the time.
There are no devs working on Maxx/Turbo AFAIK. However, we can apparently use the firmwares from Moto X or the Moto X 2014.
This topic is the sole reason I added the disclaimer up there. Read it!
The guy told me this, but understand that even though its not a confidential thing, it certainly is extra official. For those who thought a Moto X 2014 TWRP or CWM would brick their devices. Well, apparently, it won't. I'll remove the apparently when I have confirmation on this. Anyone feeling lucky, post your results here or just PM me.
Root
Root is a complicated matter.
In Kitkat.
With the previous information, we might be able to root it following Moto X 2014's instructions. More news in the future.
In Lollipop.
For those who don't know, we should be able to use root, once we patch up the kernel to boot the device allowing root. @Chainfire got it to work without the patch on the Nexus line in SuperSU 2.27, but it's really simple for Google to patch it. Don't expect it to last. Considering the amount of work it takes, we might end up with the shorter stick here. Unless some cool dev decides make it work for us as well, or if the patch for the Nexus 6 somehow work with the Maxx.
Someone will have to try it.
That's it for now. I'll try to update this as new info comes out.
Please, leave a THANKS if you enjoyed it.

Surely these are quite good news. But officially, based on moto website, maxx is not unlockable by now. But these stuff being true is worth of not getting kitkat OTA, to keep the supposed unlockable state, using custom roms, if they someday become available.

ska4fun said:
Surely these are quite good news. But officially, based on moto website, maxx is not unlockable by now. But these stuff being true is worth of not getting kitkat OTA, to keep the supposed unlockable state, using custom roms, if they someday become available.
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I unlocked mine already. It's just as the site says: get the code, send it to them, they reply with the unlock code

Nice! Thanks for the clarification!

alexcreto said:
Release Date
He didn't give me a date, rather, he told me the roadmap to it. Motorola is scaling upwards.
G > X > G2 > X+1 > Maxx/Turbo
Reminder: Verizon says when Turbo gets it after Motorola ships it to Verizon.
They are testing the waters on smaller and cheaper devices. Apparently the "under-the-hood" changes are pretty complicated and giving them some headaches. I'd say it makes sense to what @Chainfire has been saying for quite a while now. Many security changes that are affecting how you can interact with the kernel and the init.d process, for example.
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So according to your source, we should be getting Lollipop after all the G's and X's were updated?, if this is the case, I think we should be getting Lollipop really soon, because most of the devices already have Android 5.
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Galaxo60 said:
So according to your source, we should be getting Lollipop after all the G's and X's were updated?, if this is the case, I think we should be getting Lollipop really soon, because most of the devices already have Android 5.
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I don't think that's the case. Both of those devices have a soak test in progress but lollipop has not officially been released to either. Unless I missed a few updates. .

cyberr8der said:
I don't think that's the case. Both of those devices have a soak test in progress but lollipop has not officially been released to either. Unless I missed a few updates. .
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The soak tests were made before Lollipop was officially released (before Nov 13), but Motorola already made an official state about this here:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2014/11/its-time-to-unwrap-android-5-lollipop.html
It seems that Lollipop was already released.

Looks like you're correct. Based on that it seems it is released for certain models. Surprised to see that yet the soak test hasn't started for the turbo. Thanks for sharing.

ska4fun said:
Nice! Thanks for the clarification!
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I've put my oem unlock key in Motorola website and it says my device is unlockable, but I didn't proceed

I will proceed with the release of the first compatible recovery.

Galaxo60 said:
The soak tests were made before Lollipop was officially released (before Nov 13), but Motorola already made an official state about this here:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.mx/2014/11/its-time-to-unwrap-android-5-lollipop.html
It seems that Lollipop was already released.
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Just saw this as well. Seems the soak test for the Verizon Moto X is under way.
http://m.androidcentral.com/soak-test-invites-going-out-2014-moto-x-verizon

The guy mentioned they were testing an internal build for the G2

Firmware for moto x and Moto x 2014 obviously doesn't work,not even recovery, first of all the devices are different in hardware and have different device trees, it will simple not flash whoever in motorola that told you that, doesn't know how all this works.

Jaocagomez said:
Firmware for moto x and Moto x 2014 obviously doesn't work, but even recovery, first of all the devices are different in hardware and have different device trees, it will simple not flash whoever in motorola that told you that, doesn't know how all this works.
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yeah I think it's just a first line of support or something like that

Jaocagomez said:
Firmware for moto x and Moto x 2014 obviously doesn't work, but even recovery, first of all the devices are different in hardware and have different device trees, it will simple not flash whoever in motorola that told you that, doesn't know how all this works.
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I thought it was weird. I even double checked. "Moto X+1 with the Moto X recovery??" and the guy said that he'd done it himself.
Go figure...
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Nexus 6 have a same hardware, anyone think if works in maxx?

The recovery for the 6 is for LP and is markedly different than a KK recovery. Also be aware that Troy Dees (TWRP) is on record as saying the recoveries for LP are much more involved than KK and to expect a relatively slow roll out for them to a broader range of devices. He did not say it but the impression I have from reading his comments on this are that marginal devices in terms of number of owners may be waiting a long time or never see a TWRP recovery for LP.

matheus_sc said:
Nexus 6 have a same hardware, anyone think if works in maxx?
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if nexus 6 already has twrp recovery check if it works, thats the same hardware. just unlock moto maxx bootloader first.
worst case escenario its that TWRP wont work and you'll have to flash stock recovery.img again.

Jaocagomez said:
if nexus 6 already has twrp recovery check if it works, thats the same hardware. just unlock moto maxx bootloader first.
worst case escenario its that TWRP wont work and you'll have to flash stock recovery.img again.
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once u flash recovery u will lose all ur data

danger2u said:
once u flash recovery u will lose all ur data
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No... Once u unlock boot loader u loose all your data!

Bottom line on 4.4.4 and 5.1

With all the information and side convo - is it possible to be on 444 rooted, and sideload the 5.1 update and still be rooted? If yes, i'd like to see a thread to describe the process, as search yields to much to read in this lifetime, especially witht he xt1225 and not the 1254, and if no, that's great also, and i'll stick to the Nexus 6.

wrecklesswun said:
With all the information and side convo - is it possible to be on 444 rooted, and sideload the 5.1 update and still be rooted? If yes, i'd like to see a thread to describe the process, as search yields to much to read in this lifetime, especially witht he xt1225 and not the 1254, and if no, that's great also, and i'll stick to the Nexus 6.
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if you are talking about the turbo go check out the development thread there is much written on it. everybody is on rooted LP now i believe. You are still on a mofo rooted turbo running KK?

johnbravado said:
if you are talking about the turbo go check out the development thread there is much written on it.
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The XT1254 he mentions is the Droid Turbo. Whereas you just said "Turbo", which also is one of the model names of the XT1225 (Moto Turbo).
The XT1225 was released as both the Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx.
To avoid confusion, he stuck to model numbers, not partial model names.
But yes, in the Development section are plenty of 5.1 rooted images for the XT1254 Droid Turbo.

ok so let me understand - the xt1254 can be rooted using mofo, which i have - if i sideload the LLPop, it will still be rooted?

wrecklesswun said:
ok so let me understand - the xt1254 can be rooted using mofo, which i have - if i sideload the LLPop, it will still be rooted?
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As long as you didn't take the 5.1 OTA, you are OK.
Images and instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...xt1254-21-44-12-quarkrootwifihotspot-t3064908
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61636335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61752986

wrecklesswun said:
ok so let me understand - the xt1254 can be rooted using mofo, which i have - if i sideload the LLPop, it will still be rooted?
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If you choose a pre-rooted Lollipop 5.1 image to flash, then yes.

Motorola bootloader unlock via TrustZone exploit - new?

Someone wrote up detailed steps how to unlock the bootloader on the 2014 Moto X, may work with other Motorola devices (gosh I hope)
http://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/02/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
https://github.com/laginimaineb/Alohamora

It looks like it only works against kitkat.

Aren't all versions of the 2014 Moto X officially bootloader unlockable now? I know the Verizon, AT&T, and Pure editions are all unlockable. Is the international one eligible?

bzeimen said:
Aren't all versions of the 2014 Moto X officially bootloader unlockable now? I know the Verizon, AT&T, and Pure editions are all unlockable. Is the international one eligible?
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Almost correct. All the versions are officially unlockable, except AT&T. The AT&T can be unlocked now, but not officially since it must be done through an exploit.
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It clearly states that that vulnerability only applies to MSM8974, and that is accurate.

This is probably useful for AT&T users.
I wonder if it still works on 5.0

Duo8 said:
This is probably useful for AT&T users.
I wonder if it still works on 5.0
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The vulnerability is valid for all 2014 moto x firmware versions, afaict....the code in git he provided is valid for nothing (requires a custom kernel/unlocked bootloader).
fwiw SunShine supports all firmware versions of the 2014x as well.
--beaups

beaups said:
The vulnerability is valid for all 2014 moto x firmware versions, afaict....the code in git he provided is valid for nothing (requires a custom kernel/unlocked bootloader).
fwiw SunShine supports all firmware versions of the 2014x as well.
--beaups
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He said he will provide a version that uses a kernel exploit instead. Let's hope that works on newer fw as well.
And since this works on all versions, I guess this bug is 100% a hardware one.

Duo8 said:
He said he will provide a version that uses a kernel exploit instead. Let's hope that works on newer fw as well.
And since this works on all versions, I guess this bug is 100% a hardware one.
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Its a tz kernel vuln, not hardware. They are easily patched, but there have been no patches released for the 14x for this bug.
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I don't know, men. I just rooted my xt1097 at&t two days ago with kingroot as soon as i knew about the good news and I couldn't contain myself and I paid for sunshine. Worked great by the way... Now I installed an xt1095 unbloated marshmallow (Thanks @AGISCI for the .zip).
I'm happier than a week ago. =D

droid turbo mm india

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd_iMhjFvA0

gavsi said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd_iMhjFvA0
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Thanks for the video, but actually it's the Moto Turbo XT1225, not the Droid Turbo XT1254 (as you clearly say in the video).
It's just your post title is misleading.
You'll have Droid Turbo owners thinking somehow you got stock Marshmallow from Motorola on a Droid Turbo in India before them.
Some Droid Turbo owners do have stock Marshmallow, but they are using @iiWoodstocK modified Brazil XT1225 image, which doesn't have Verizon VoLTE. Verizon Droid Turbo owners are eagerly awaiting Marshmallow released specifically for the XT1254.
The XT1225 has had it since July.

ChazzMatt said:
Thanks for the video, but actually it's the Moto Turbo XT1225, not the Droid Turbo XT1254 (as you clearly say in the video).
It's just your post title is misleading.
You'll have Droid Turbo owners thinking somehow you got stock Marshmallow from Motorola on a Droid Turbo in India before them.
Some Droid Turbo owners do have stock Marshmallow, but they are using @iiWoodstocK modified Brazil XT1225 image, which doesn't have Verizon VoLTE. Verizon Droid Turbo owners are eagerly awaiting Marshmallow released specifically for the XT1254.
The XT1225 has had it since July.
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Where can I find that modified image?

ChazzMatt said:
Some Droid Turbo owners do have stock Marshmallow, but they are using @iiWoodstocK modified Brazil XT1225 image, which doesn't have Verizon VoLTE. Verizon Droid Turbo owners are eagerly awaiting Marshmallow released specifically for the XT1254.
The XT1225 has had it since July.
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Sparksys said:
Where can I find that modified image?
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In this forum, in Development:
[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-mpg24-107-70-2-brazilian-6-0-1-t3426234

XT1585 (Verizon) Root. Android 7.0

How can I root Motorola Turbo 2. XT1585 (Verizon). Running on Android 7.0
Anyone has done yet?

ahmeddrraza said:
How can I root Motorola Turbo 2. XT1585 (Verizon). Running on Android 7.0
Anyone has done yet?
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You can't. You bought the wrong Kinzie. Sibling Moto X Force has bootloader unlock and root. Droid Turbo 2 does not.
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