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I dont have the dough to buy a Nexus 4 but two things I was curious about since my cousin bought one.
1. How's the battery life and how do you like the screen? Which phone is crispier, oversatured, brighter , more colored, warmer?
2. My cousin who is crazy about rooting was like it comes as plain as google makes it and didn't want to even root it. That's amazing, but don't you guys miss the custom roms and the independence and development of settings they give you? One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
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Dafuq you talking about?
zetsui said:
I dont have the dough to buy a Nexus 4 but two things I was curious about since my cousin bought one.
1. How's the battery life and how do you like the screen? Which phone is crispier, oversatured, brighter , more colored, warmer?
2. My cousin who is crazy about rooting was like it comes as plain as google makes it and didn't want to even root it. That's amazing, but don't you guys miss the custom roms and the independence and development of settings they give you? One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
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Bought the Nexus 4 coming from the S3, GT-I9300 Model. When I got the N4 I sold my S3 without thinking twice, and I even had money to spare! In terms of the build quality, the S3 felt like a piece of cheap plastic that I can break with my hands, on the other hand, the N4's build quality is excellent and premium.
Before I got the N4 I had an S2 and an S3, which both sported a Super Amoled screen. Now, when it comes to the argument between LCD and Amoled, it all comes down to your opinion, it took me half an hour to get used to the N4's screen and when I looked at the S3 again, I hated it's over saturated look. The thing I do miss a little from Amoled are the blacks, the N4 blacks aren't as dark.
In terms of software, I am free from Touch-wiz!!! Wow, what a relief, finally android at it's best. The N4 is miles faster than the S3, it is smoother, snappier and project butter clearly has a major effect on smoothness (Samsung basically canceled project butter in their JB updates...).
I rooted my N4 and flashed CM 10.1 on it and I am happier with that than stock, but the need to root and flash ROMs on the N4 is only for people who like doing it for fun, because stock android is very close to perfect already. When Android Key Lime Pie is released, I am sure it will be a great update and the N4 will receive it right away.
Last thing - battery. The S3's and the N4's battery life are pretty much the same so I'm not going to go into that much. Just like in the S3, if you want to improve battery life, you UC and UV using a custom kernel or you disable some apps and etc...
To sum up, I believe there is no reason for anyone who has an S3 to keep it, they can sell it, buy the N4, and still have money to spare! Besides, the N4 is definitely the superior handset.
Coming from the S3 and Note 2 and now enjoying the Nexus 4 for a week i must say it is a magnificent device. It is smooth, responsive and i xperience no lags at all. Running CM10.1 nightlies with Franco kernel. And finaly software without a manufacturers shell (Touchwizz).
Realy happy with the device so far, and will keep this one till something better comes along ( Oppo Find5 i hope).
Coming from the sgs3 I'm really enjoying my nexus. Idk to me the performance is pretty much on par (slight edge to nexus). Idk about performance on games since I'm not really into that. But I do miss having the external SD and some tw features.
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I love my nexus.
The physical phone itself is definitely much nicer than the galaxy, which I am now looking to sell. It looks sexy and feels solid, the galaxy looks and feels cheap and plastic.
I used to like the screen on the s3 but after using the Nexus for a week, the AMOLED screen is definitely less crisp (due to the pentile matrix I suspect) and the colours do look a little over saturated.
Speed wise stock android 4.2 on the Nexus is noticeably faster than the S3 running Android 4.1.2 with the Touchwiz overlay. The S3 is still a very quick phone, it's just not as quick as the N4. Also switching between apps is faster on the N4 thanks to the extra RAM.
There are pros to the S3 though. It has better battery life for some unknown reason, more storage capacity and a removable battery. If I wanted to use my phone for a lot of multimedia functions such as playing and watching music and videos, I would have kept the S3. I don't though so I'm selling it.
Apart from getting the updates first, the Nexus is the first to get fully functional versions of custom aosp roms like Cyanogenmod and AOKP. On other phones such as the S3 they usually have a lot of bugs at first.
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I had an S3 before purchasing the Nexus 4. When i received my Nexus 4, i compared both phones side by side (browser, UI, benchmarks and more)... The nexus 4 came out ahead of Samsung in almost every aspect except the picture quality of the Camera app. S3 still has the upper edge with pics.
However, the nexus 4 UI was more fluid(no lag at all) and the screen was way brighter than that of the S3
The Nexus 4 is the best and fastest device i have ever owned and the 2gb ram included is more optimized for the device than the Galaxy s3
What dothese updates look like or mean since I flashed my gs3 the day I got it
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You don't have to worry about lack of development for this phone. There are plenty of Roms to choose from for this phone. Hell, I flash between 5 different Roms daily and they are all very stable. Also I don't see how you can be doubting Google in updating their nexus line. Nexus 4 will be one of the first to get the next iteration of android, key lime pie if that does end up being its name.
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You don't have to worry about lack of development for this phone. There are plenty of Roms to choose from for this phone. Hell, I flash between 5 different Roms daily and they are all very stable. Also I don't see how you can be doubting Google in updating their nexus line. Nexus 4 will be one of the first to get the next iteration of android, key lime pie if that does end up being its name.
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And is a AOSP supported device. Therefore, you'll be ensured that custom ROMs will be highly stable as everything would be working out of the box. No bugs such as loss of functionality in WiFi, Bluetooth, Cellular data etc whereas other phones will have problems and will need to be fixed.
Development shouldn't even be a issue.
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And is a AOSP supported device. Therefore, you'll be ensured that custom ROMs will be highly stable as everything would be working out of the box. No bugs such as loss of functionality in WiFi, Bluetooth, Cellular data etc whereas other phones will have problems and will need to be fixed.
Development shouldn't even be a issue.
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Definitely. Development on this phone is heaven. I used CM back when I had the evo 4g lte and it was very buggy. Given over time it did become pretty darn stable, credit to the devs there. But with this phone which is already aosp development is much quicker and bug free
Ok so I've been rolling my N4 for just over 2 years now and although I love it I can't help feeling I'm getting left behind. I'll just say that its been the best phone I've ever owned. Everything works out of the box. Google maps and nav for example. Simple, free and every other phone I've launched in anger at the necessary to me but total garbage navigation apps they provided. Nothing the N4 does I dislike.
I thought I liked the 'development' side. I played a lot with my HTC hd2 and ran that on android until it died but since moving to the nexus I'm a vanilla convert. My life is too busy to go rooting. Some may say I'm a iPhone wannabe owner but thats another blood boiling story so we'll skip that. I just love the updates, the simplicity the support and how much nicer android is over the competition.
So I ask. If I want or need a new phone, where do i go?
As I said I love the google updates/support
Size is important. The N4 to me is almost the perfect size. I'm not a phablet fan at all. The N6 launch was hugely disappointing for that reason.
Not sure how I'd cope with bloatware and a different interface like touchwiz coming from a vanilla android handset.
I suppose the reasons for a possible upgrade is LTE. Its getting more widespread in the UK.
The N4 has started to show some gremlins. Nothing bad but makes me question how long the handset will last.
Camera is utter ****. I'm not too bothered by breathtaking quality. Its still only a phone and if I want a proper pic I'll use my SLR, but convinience rules and the n4 camera is slow, unreliable and makes me look a fool who misses that important moment.
& I suppose storage. I like some music. Have a lot of pictures. & apps take up a lot of space. I don't see myself needing expandable storage but 16gb absolute minimum is a must.
So where do I go from here. New nexus? When will that be along?
Nexus 5? Or is that too old as well?
Or are there any other good android experiences from other manufacturers?
Interested to see what others have upgraded to and how they found moving on.
Cheers
I have a nexus 4 . I am Walting the next nexus (7) . I hope in a 5 inch and a waterproof device. Becaus of. The last update (5.1) of its lire. good chiose friend
Same problem here. Tried a Fire phone, too may issues . Saw in several articles that they are going to made a 2015 version on the Nexus 5 . The Nexus 6 is too expensive
Gary
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I still love my N4 but it's definitely time for an upgrade. I'm holding out for the nexus 5 2015 (assuming the rumors are correct obviously). I've been rooting and flashing roms on the N4 since I got it, at the moment I'm running the Chroma ROM with hellscore kernel and it's probably running better than when I first purchased it. Because of this I can easily wait for the next nexus release, there is no other device that would suit my needs to be honest.
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Well, the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact has official Cyanogenmod 12.1, although it's still in "testing". Or you could leave it stock, but it wouldn't be vanilla Android. Sony doesn't go too crazy with their UIs though, and you can always use Nova or whatever launcher to give it the AOSP feel. The Z3C is a significantly smaller phone than the Nexus 4, but only sacrifices .1" in screen size. Plus you'll get like double the battery life or more. And front-facing speakers, 128gb expandable storage, waterproofness, etc.
Or you could wait for the Saygus V2. It's not out yet, but it's basically an Android enthusiast's wetdream. Think of every cool feature on all the different flagship phones, and cram them all into a single device, and you get the V2. 5" 1080p screen, front-facing speakers, IR blaster, wireless broadcasting, waterproof, removable battery, fingerprint scanner, 20mp OIS camera, TWO microSD slots, 64gb built-in, 3GB RAM, dual boot capability, rooted (or rootable) out of the box, and damn near every LTE band on the planet.
No, the Nexus 4 is NOT forever device. I'm back to using mine as I sold my M8 (needed the money) and it's SO slow compared to the newer phones out there. Plus the lack of 4G is a bummer
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No, the Nexus 4 is NOT forever device. I'm back to using mine as I sold my M8 (needed the money) and it's SO slow compared to the newer phones out there. Plus the lack of 4G is a bummer
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I sold my M8 too, but not because I needed the money, I much preferred my Nexus 4.
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What do you guys think? Not many new Teams are porting newer ROMs to our beloved Nexus 4.
Honestly, If I had a bigger battery and fingerprint sensor in nexus 4, I would keep it forever. It has been my daily driver for almost 3 years. I haven't kept any other phone longer than I have kept my N4.
How long are you guys planning on keeping nexus 4? Are you guys keeping it until Android N?
I'm really pleased with my N4. I've got it for almost half an year. It's really powerful phone compared with my previous device - Galaxy Nexus.
I would keep it for another 1-2 years for sure and it doesn't matter, if there won't be much developers porting and making new ROMs for N4.
Now I'm running on Chroma and it's just great, and the developer is still active. Also we have CM13 with their nightlies and another ROMs, which are still in development.
I don't think the developing on N4 is or will be dead, just not yet.
Remember, it's Nexus device, which has the biggest development community around
Why would you say that man, we got all the development we need, there's a lot of AOSP and CM based ROMs and Kernels, I my self is on the Marshmallow build from Dirty Unicorns, which has a great great team of devs. I don't know about Android N support from devs only time will tell, and yes I hope to hold on to my N4 as long as I can.
I highly doubt we are nearing the end. It seems to have slowed for certain ROMs but there's still a plethora of builds with wonderful features. I can see myself still holding on to my Nexus 4 for at least another year, especially if it ends up getting an Android N port. I had an N4, I broke it a week into owning it, then had an HTC M7 which I thought was good, but I missed the N4, so I bought one after hard bricking my M7. No regrets, it's my favorite phone hands down, even for being going on a 3.5-4 year old phone. Still feels close to a modern flagship for daily functions. It's still going to stick around for at least another year with development if I had to guess
I sure hope not. The Nexus 4 is great. I have the n6 now, but I sometimes switch back and forth between the two. Plus the already existing development surpasses most every device on the planet, including it's other nexus brethren.
I keep thinking about replacing mine, in fact I almost bought a 5X at the weekend, but it does everything I need it to and the battery is still fine even after 2.5 years.
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We have a lot of active 6.0.1 ROMs. It's a Nexus so porting should be easy, and the hardware is great (unless u wanna benchmark it with latest flagships). Using my N⁴ since Nov '12 and it still runs (cm13) butter smooth with SoT ≈ 3½h. So I'm guessing it'll go on for a few more yrs peacefully.
Hello guys, I want to know your personal opinion here.
Since this device is 2 years old and the support from Google is ending, do you think that the Nexus 5X will be kept alive like the Nexus 5 (which is very supported till now on XDA)?
Sure, the 5X has some errors&mistakes, but I believe that the community is strong enough to keep up the developement for our "Ne5xie"
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Big thanks to @argraur , @BeansTown106 & and other devs for making cool, frequently updated ROMs
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Owned it for a year and five months. Under Nougat it had poor memory management kicking the apps aggressively out of background. In August, the device is rendered near useless by the Oreo update, and a couple of weeks ago it bootlooped. What a piece of junk. This was my third extremely poor device made by LG.
Yeah, Oreo is not very N5X friendly, probably ROM bakers can do a miracle
Have you tried any of those bootloop fixes?
I agree, N5X isn't the most reliable device.
I use since begin, 15month ago, ABC-ROMs. Nougat and Oreo. I use it ~6h/d: browser, mail, messenger, navigation. No games, no GApps. All working flawless. I guess, there will be ABC- or other AOSP-updates still for years. The bottleneck is the solder: if my phone dies, I'll not repair it nor buy another Nexus/Pixel. If not, I'll keep it still 1.5year.
@rp158 Which phone will you buy after your N5X fails?
I'll stay in the Nexus line (Pixel)...
BQ Aquarios, Moto G or X, any Android One
Kinda funny... any of them is available in my country ?
just got an update: 8.1 DP2
seems very stable & smooth ?
It'll never have the support the Nexus 5 had, it's got too many issues. At GZR, we've had several maintainers for the device, the last one had to stop when his 5x bootlooped and died. We have a new maintainer. My 5x is still doing fine after almost 2 years, but I don't use it as a DD and I don't let it get hot. It's mostly used for Chromecast and ROM testing and I won't fix or replace it when it dies. The Nexus 6 was the last great Nexus IMO.
weird, I'm using it daily for gaming for almost 2yrs with no problems... I hope my Nex never dies ?
So, after those 2 days using DP2 I only noticed a camera bug... sometimes I open snapchat(or camera) and it just says "Unable to start the camera" or something like that.
It works again after restarting....
I don't see why not. It's a powerful device (at least for people not playing heavy games like me, though I suppose heavy games can be played on the N5X) and I don't think it's going to go away soon.
Yeah, I use the Magisk module for thermal throttling (profile extreme v4) and I can play any of the heavy games flawlessly.
Hi all. I'm looking at a used 64gb N6P (slightly used for almost 1yr) ONLY FOR $170. original complete package. No bootloop issues (YET)
Well, I'm open for suggestions. I will use the phone as my daily driver. I'm also into rooting & custom ROMS. As for my observation, angler devs will still hold up the device for years. :fingers-crossed:
BTW, I'm coming from 32gb N6 shamu.
What do you think guys? Is it a good upgrade? Or should I buy a current $200 budget phone instead?
Thank you, and sorry if this question is old.
I also had N6 32gb shamu and just bought second hand N6P angler month ago with battery issues, i replaced the batter myself and using abc rom + elemental x with dazed 6p edition 3.1 profile. Its pretty fast and when I'm at home battery is usually at %50-60. I'm not a power user but I must say i switched for the finger print scanner and i miss N6s large screen and it was event faster too in the other hand N6P has great camera compared to N6 specially selfie one is awesome + phone feels more premium with metal back. Overall I'm happy that switched and planing to use this phone at least 1 more year.
I have literally owned 10 Nexus 6P's. Every time I try to upgrade I keep wanting my 6P again. This phone is perfect AND you get the added ability of not really needing to be TOO careful with it. A replacement is $5-600 cheaper than trying to replace a newer phone. I work on cars, so being able to not care about the phone as much when using the flash light is a plus for me. Plus its fast.
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Hi all. I'm looking at a used 64gb N6P (slightly used for almost 1yr) ONLY FOR $170. original complete package. No bootloop issues (YET)
Well, I'm open for suggestions. I will use the phone as my daily driver. I'm also into rooting & custom ROMS. As for my observation, angler devs will still hold up the device for years. :fingers-crossed:
What do you think guys? Is it a good upgrade? Or should I buy a current $200 budget phone instead?
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The answer isn't actually simple. If you want a phone that will keep getting security updates, then an emphatic no. They are still pushing monthlies right now, but as the Android P dev preview is out and the Nexus line is no longer scheduled for any support, when the Pixel 3 drops in October, I suspect the security updates for the 6p will be dead.
So, once that happens, whatever version of most remaining updated custom ROMs are out there will likely be it. There may be the odd one who tries to kludge Android 9 onto the 6p, but when you also factor in the processor's age, it's very near EOL.
However, if you're OK with effectively staying on Oreo, for the price, it's still a good phone with a good camera. You just won't get a lot of custom ROM dev for much longer. Even in the 8 months since I was regularly using my 6p, development has dried up significantly. There are really only 3 or 4 options other than keeping it stock and doing my own customization.
I recently used an Xperia XZ Premium for about 8 months and had so many hardware failures, that I finally gave up and came back to my 6p. Aside from the noticeable performance difference with the 810 processor and a GB less of RAM, I'm actually happier using the 6p because it's better than the Xperia Xperience ever was, but that's personal preference. All I really do is use the factory image, TWRP, Magisk and then install Viper, SE Linux control and Pixel mods and the phone works the way I want.
I suspect I'll try to suck another 4 months out of the 6p then buy a Pixel 3. It'll be pricy, but stock Android, fast regular updates and a killer camera are all important to me.
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The answer isn't actually simple. If you want a phone that will keep getting security updates, then an emphatic no. They are still pushing monthlies right now, but as the Android P dev preview is out and the Nexus line is no longer scheduled for any support, when the Pixel 3 drops in October, I suspect the security updates for the 6p will be dead.
So, once that happens, whatever version of most remaining updated custom ROMs are out there will likely be it. There may be the odd one who tries to kludge Android 9 onto the 6p, but when you also factor in the processor's age, it's very near EOL.
However, if you're OK with effectively staying on Oreo, for the price, it's still a good phone with a good camera. You just won't get a lot of custom ROM dev for much longer. Even in the 8 months since I was regularly using my 6p, development has dried up significantly. There are really only 3 or 4 options other than keeping it stock and doing my own customization.
I recently used an Xperia XZ Premium for about 8 months and had so many hardware failures, that I finally gave up and came back to my 6p. Aside from the noticeable performance difference with the 810 processor and a GB less of RAM, I'm actually happier using the 6p because it's better than the Xperia Xperience ever was, but that's personal preference. All I really do is use the factory image, TWRP, Magisk and then install Viper, SE Linux control and Pixel mods and the phone works the way I want.
I suspect I'll try to suck another 4 months out of the 6p then buy a Pixel 3. It'll be pricy, but stock Android, fast regular updates and a killer camera are all important to me.
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Thank you for the response. Right, I think I can keep my shamu for a while. Maybe I'll wait for the budget pixel 3. :fingers-crossed:
Guys im wondering the same thing. I actually just got a Nexus 6P 64gb for less than 200$. I have no battery issues whatsoever but i am worried about the bootloop issues. Do you guys think i should switch phones( I still can) because of that potential issue or is the issue isolated? I mean literally every G4 eventually gets bootloop, is the Nexus 6P the same?
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I have literally owned 10 Nexus 6P's. Every time I try to upgrade I keep wanting my 6P again. This phone is perfect AND you get the added ability of not really needing to be TOO careful with it. A replacement is $5-600 cheaper than trying to replace a newer phone. I work on cars, so being able to not care about the phone as much when using the flash light is a plus for me. Plus its fast.
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Did any of those 6P's get the bootloop problem? And for how long have you tested a Nexus 6P?