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Most games are stuttering - Jelly Bean bug?

I have Galaxy Note (ICS) and I played some 3D heavy graphics games with this phone with zero or minimal stuttering. However, when I play most of the same game in my N7, they stutter heavily.
Games I tried:
- Gears & Guts (worst stutter)
- Dead Trigger (bad stutter)
- The Dark Knight Rises (worst stutter)
- Shadow Gun (minimal stutter)
I have NOT installed any background systems apps that takes a lot of resources to create this stuttering.
I am wondering if anyone experiences the same problem or if this just my tablet. I already did a hard reset twice and same problem persists.

Dead Trigger is the only one of those i have played and it seems to run ok but I have read A lot of comments from people in the play store saying the N7 is lagging or stuttering
Just out of interest, are you using any of the home screen rotation apps (rotation locker, ultimate rotation control etc)?

Lots of rumors that Apple are behind a HUGE campaign to try and discredit the Nexus7 in whatever way they can, which I guess means forum posts here, Play store comments claiming about lag and stuff.
I havn't seen any of this, and my Nexus7 is perfect. I think people need to make up thier own mind, rather than being influenced by Apple viral marketing campaigns.

I'm not getting any stuttering in games on mine, I played Asphalt 7 and Dead Trigger today and both played smooth and fast.

californiarailroader said:
I'm not getting any stuttering in games on mine, I played Asphalt 7 and Dead Trigger today and both played smooth and fast.
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Same here. Games play flawless. Now if you have an older version of the app called rotation control, its a known fact THST app caused games to stutter. They just recently updated their app to fix this. Even says in their changelog that it was causing gaming/videonstuttering on nexus 7. With the new update for that app, they fixed it.

I have the Dark Knight Rises on mine and it plays with very minimal lag (stutter), not sure why others say its terrible as it just really hasn't been for me at all.

I had this. Rebooted it and it's not happened since

demandarin said:
Same here. Games play flawless. Now if you have an older version of the app called rotation control, its a known fact THST app caused games to stutter. They just recently updated their app to fix this. Even says in their changelog that it was causing gaming/videonstuttering on nexus 7. With the new update for that app, they fixed it.
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I just downloaded that tonight too, I guess I got the updated version.

lanwarrior said:
I have Galaxy Note (ICS) and I played some 3D heavy graphics games with this phone with zero or minimal stuttering. However, when I play most of the same game in my N7, they stutter heavily.
Games I tried:
- Gears & Guts (worst stutter)
- Dead Trigger (bad stutter)
- The Dark Knight Rises (worst stutter)
- Shadow Gun (minimal stutter)
I have NOT installed any background systems apps that takes a lot of resources to create this stuttering.
I am wondering if anyone experiences the same problem or if this just my tablet. I already did a hard reset twice and same problem persists.
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I have The Dark Knight Rises. I dont see the lag. Works fine.

from my experience, lag and stutter is purely opinionated.
i come from a PC gaming background, and i cant stand anything less than 60fps, which is why my beast is watercooled.
some games on the nexus 7 dont stay above 60fps all the time, but they run consistently more smoothly compared to on my galaxy note with factory ICS (not rooted).
however, one thing you might not be used to is the difference in screens. amoled has a very low response time (less than 1ms black to black in some applications), but IPS panels have a longer response time (6.5ms grey to grey and around 16ms black to black). to people who are sensitive to it, this can make it look like its lagging a little or ghosting. it improves a bit once the device is warm, but not by much. run a benchmark and see if the fps is similar to your note, if it is, then its mainly the difference in response time that you are perceiving as stutter.

samueljohanson said:
I have The Dark Knight Rises. I dont see the lag. Works fine.
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The same here with Dark Knight Rises.

Don't play a lot of games but what I have loaded plays perfectly fine on the N7. I also have a Galaxy Note, I have the game Sleepy Jack which consistently slows down to almost a halt when a lot is happening on the screen. On my N7 it just doesn't happen at all, plays beautifully smooth. I loaded Dead Trigger after reading this post even though its not my preferred type of game & don't see any lag. Riptide GP is glorious but gets a bit boring.
In fact gaming on the N7 is a pleasure compared to the GNote (laggy, colour banding, black crush issue in dark scenes).

I'm running hotw1r3s cm10 on my note, I loaded up the games you posted on my nexus and my note, and got zero lag on either.my nexus is rooted stock
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I have been playing Dead Trigger since I got my N7 on the highest settings available with no lag what so ever. I do a lot of gaming and can tell if there is "Stuttering" and let me tell you, this tablet doesn't stutter.

Well something is very strange then - if people are saying there is no frame rate issues with some of those games..
From personal experience -
Asphalt 7 drops frames all over the shop - compared to it running on a phone [it's only really smooth in the replay after the race]
Batman - does stutter if you pan the camera while moving - or in combat - or moving at speed - and the over all frame rate is low
On iphone Asphalt is very smooth - the iPad version is like butter..
I have not purchased Batman on the iPad - however reports are it's also very smooth..
I think it's a combination of things - I can see that some people may not notice - if coming from other tablets or lower spec phones.
But those two games are deff not optimised for either jelly bean or the nexus 7..
Dead Trigger - plays great - so I know it's not my tablet..

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Well something is very strange then - if people are saying there is no frame rate issues with some of those games..
From personal experience -
Asphalt 7 drops frames all over the shop - compared to it running on a phone [it's only really smooth in the replay after the race]
Batman - does stutter if you pan the camera while moving - or in combat - or moving at speed - and the over all frame rate is low
On iphone Asphalt is very smooth - the iPad version is like butter..
I have not purchased Batman on the iPad - however reports are it's also very smooth..
I think it's a combination of things - I can see that some people may not notice - if coming from other tablets or lower spec phones.
But those two games are deff not optimised for either jelly bean or the nexus 7..
Dead Trigger - plays great - so I know it's not my tablet..
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That's weird, because I just played a long session of Asphalt 7 last night on my Nexus 7 and it played as smooth as butter, the same goes for The Dark Knight Rises. I wonder if there is a program on your Nexus 7 that is causing those issues.

californiarailroader said:
That's weird, because I just played a long session of Asphalt 7 last night on my Nexus 7 and it played as smooth as butter, the same goes for The Dark Knight Rises. I wonder if there is a program on your Nexus 7 that is causing those issues.
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Well if there is - it's one of the stock ones
I only have paper land pro installed - and I bought that after the games - and noticed the low frame rate before it.
it's very odd if theres a app causing it - that Asphalt 7 looks great on the replay..
Asphalt 7 also has bad texture loading - you get weird textures that flicker as the texture loads in.. [which others have reported]
dead trigger plays great - MC3 - fine - Dark Meadows - fine
Maybe it's something silly - like 8GB tablets have faster storage memory than the 16GB [to save cost on the 16GB]
But then you have a 16?
Noticed yours is rooted though - might have something to do with it also - mines stock
it's not a really low frame rate - but compared to it running on other devices - SG3 / iPad for example - it's really noticeable.

shadeygeezer said:
Well if there is - it's one of the stock ones
I only have paper land pro installed - and I bought that after the games - and noticed the low frame rate before it.
it's very odd if theres a app causing it - that Asphalt 7 looks great on the replay..
Asphalt 7 also has bad texture loading - you get black textures that flicker as the texture loads in.. [which others have reported]
dead trigger plays great - MC3 - fine - Dark Meadows - fine
Maybe it's something silly - like 8GB tablets have faster storage memory than the 16GB [to save cost on the 16GB]
I have a 16GB - what do you have?
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I have a 16 GB version too. Have you tried doing a factory reset? If that doesn't work, you might check into getting Google to send you another one out, it could just be defective.

californiarailroader said:
I have a 16 GB version too. Have you tried doing a factory reset? If that doesn't work, you might check into getting Google to send you another one out, it could just be defective.
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I did a reset - I did that since I was sending it back due to screen lift [which I then fixed] - reset didn't help.
Also redownloaded in case it was a 'bad' install - still same.
Noticed yours is rooted though - so maybe something to do with it?
All other games run perfectly - so cant see it being a hardware issue - MC3 / Dead Trigger / Dark Meadows and even the Tegra 3 demo 'Glowball' all ruin great
There's an ongoing thread about Asphalt 7 on both here and the gameloft forum - some have found altering the XML device file in the game - making it think it's running on a phone - think it's a SG3 - makes it look a lot better - less bright tracks, better overall 'look' the Nexus version can look really bad when compared to the phone version..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797247
frame rate is still poor though.
The game just does not run well /look good on the Tegra 3 tablets when compared to other Android devices.
And compared to the iPhone / iPad versions - this looks like it's really struggling at some points.

Guys, notice something? The games you are saying look and run great are Tegra 3 optimized. The others are Gameloft games. It is Gameloft's issue for not optimizing their ports, I mean, games.
Will either have to petition them to optimize the games or don't play them. There's another thread about someone digging into the code in Asphalt 7 and seeing it was optimized for the S3 and not N7. They used a hacked APK and used the same settings for S3 and it became noticeably better.
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[Q] Slow 3D Performance - Stock KitKat and no root

So, I've been struggling with this issue from day one ... Before I decided to buy me a friggin Note 3 I watched several reviews and youtube vids to see, among other things, how well this beast could run recent 3D games and all the people were stating that all the games they tested (dead trigger 2, dead Trigger, Dungeon hunter 4, Riptide ....) were running super smooth at 60fps ... now maybe my vision is somehow defect but when I run games such as dead trigger 2 I get very choppy framerates... like not anywhere near 60fps for most of the time ...
I thought upgrading to KikKat would do the trick - but nope, no difference ... I thinks its even worse now... also after going back to factory defaults several times did not do any good either .... So Im asking:
- Am i the only one who seems to have trouble running games in 60fps?
- if there are others who have experienced this, was there any difference when you switched to root?
- is there any fix for non-root users to get some performance boost...
Normally I would say that gaming performance on a phone is not a big deal - but since everyone seems to get super performance except me I am somewhat curious what the problem is here ... also the Note 3 isnt the cheapest smartphone on the market, so it better perform as fast as possible
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Model: SM-N9005
Build: KOT49H.N9005XXUENB4
Bought in Germany, carrier-independet

Anyone else getting major lag in games? (Hearthstone)

I just tried playing Hearthstone with my S7 Edge and the lag is horrible. The game is almost unplayable. Not to mention, the game runs in some ultra high saturation settings. This game ran faster on my S5 and a lot faster on my 6S+.
Is anyone experiencing lag in any other games?

jrwingate6 said:
I just tried playing Hearthstone with my S7 Edge and the lag is horrible. The game is almost unplayable. Not to mention, the game runs in some ultra high saturation settings. This game ran faster on my S5 and a lot faster on my 6S+.
Is anyone experiencing lag in any other games?
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Make sure you dont have power save activated in game launcher

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Make sure you dont have power save activated in game launcher
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Thanks for the advise but I don't even have Game Launcher activated.

i'm having the same issue with pinball arcade, like if there' some type of game lag. it's unfortunate because its the only game app i play lol. now it's useless unless i enjoy lag pinball. very weird, hopefully samsung can fix this or the app creators.

Runs very Smooth with my s7 edge. But i have the exynos chip, maybe you have the snapdragon...
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Runs really choppy SS well. I have an iPhone 6s plus and it's not even close. I figured new Samsung could hang

Runs smooth on my s7 exynos version. Does the lag appear immediately or after a while as when I do play on my phone it's usually for no more than 30 min at a time.
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Galaxy S7 Edge, Exynos Polish retail presales. I got lags on everything. Touchwiz, chrome, facebook, games, videos (however only in software-decoded). If a video player is using hardware acceleration, then it's fine. html5 embedded videos run (with individual pixels flashing with different colors), but fail when I try to change the viewing mode to horizontal, try to run fullscreen or skip few seconds of the video. I see same flashing pixels when browsing instagram pictures. The most irritating is VR mode. Flashing pixels all the time, a 10-20 second freeze every other minute in any app, however, when running 360 videos, most of them run smoothly without a lag. I ran Antutu benchmarks, but the score was ~101K. Is that the general lag some people are experiencing and hope Samsung will release patches, or should I get my phone serviced? Is there a way to run maintenance tests to check what's wrong with it?

Just to be clear, I have the SS version and the phone did not lag anywhere else. It was only in games. I fixed it though.
Those who are getting unplayable lag while in games you can download "Package Remover Pro" and remove "Game Services" and "Gamepad Services".
Now my games finally don't lag and they look much better.

jrwingate6 said:
Just to be clear, I have the SS version and the phone did not lag anywhere else. It was only in games. I fixed it though.
Those who are getting unplayable lag while in games you can download "Package Remover Pro" and remove "Game Services" and "Gamepad Services".
Now my games finally don't lag and they look much better.
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Let me give that a try. I will post results

I have a Snapdragon 820 S7E, and Hearthstone worked perfectly for me for an hour yesterday. No issues so far.

I don't have any lag issues but disabling the 2 gaming packages fixed the over saturation, thanks! (On a Exynos model btw)

I'm getting lag even in Monument Valley on my S7 Edge Exynos version and no lag at all on my Huawei Mate 8.. I'll try disabling those two game packages.
Hmm this seems to trigger Knox? If so I don't want to do it.

Still having gaming lag issues even with package Disabler. Need advice otherwise I'm going back to my 6S plus

Yea, I am also still getting lag in Hearthstone. I can't believe Samsung would release such a half baked phone. The most powerful mobile GPU around and they manage to screw it up.

I don't get lag on my SD 820 Edge when playing Hearthstone... I do however get force closes. I have to then rush to get back logged in before I lose my "turn". Anyway, it's been pretty disappointing.

I get lag angry birds 2 and tekken nothing os playable. That relates to something sammy changed in android 6. As note 5 have same issue on android 6 but not on 5.1.1.

I am playing Hearthstone on my Exynos S7 Edge for a few weeks now.The game runs pretty smooth while dropping frames time to time but when I activate Power Saving mode it doesn't feel like it is 30 fps.
I play on computer all the time at 30 fps and it is great.
When I use the Game Tuner just to lower the resolution and texture quality,FPS also drops for some reason.

Hmmm. mine does drop frames every now and then but hearthstone doesn't have major lags. I'm on exynos.
I only play for 1 or two battles in a row. maybe that's the reason? I haven't played a lot. only a little

Poor 3d performance pisses me off!

Hi, previously had the Note 5 and after upgrading to 6.0.1, i noticed games lags very very hard, especially heavy 3d games like angry birds, they drop FPS and become too laggy, never happened on 5.1.1.
Now same thing with S7 Edge, phone works perfect, camera is awesome but gaming is lacking, i see how it can perform well but those 6.0.1 3d gaming bug kills it, now it pisses me off so much i wanna sell the phone as idk if samsung even aware of this.
Those who question me i can upload a video to youtube to show you that, just a rant thread.

Derpling said:
Hi, previously had the Note 5 and after upgrading to 6.0.1, i noticed games lags very very hard, especially heavy 3d games like angry birds, they drop FPS and become too laggy, never happened on 5.1.1.
Now same thing with S7 Edge, phone works perfect, camera is awesome but gaming is lacking, i see how it can perform well but those 6.0.1 3d gaming bug kills it, now it pisses me off so much i wanna sell the phone as idk if samsung even aware of this.
Those who question me i can upload a video to youtube to show you that, just a rant thread.
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This annoys me as well but I'm pretty sure it's just software as the hardware is more than capable. All the other features are more worth it than gaming performance since I rarely game now. So this is still one beast of a phone. It'll get better with dev support if they ever figure out an exploit for the 820 variants or some miracle happens and our bootloader gets unlocked.

yes it is software that's why it drives me crazy, at least if sammy somehow admitted that and we know fix on the way that would be nice, one of the reason i bought it is the awesome gaming and Vulkan support, which ppsspp emulator starts to support as well, i just hope they will fix it asap, as well as the stock app camera which have issues of it's own.

I had this issue as well, the solution is download game tuner from Google play store, and manually adjust the settings for your desired games to max. The performance is scaled down automatically. It's a "feature". This will fix your problems.

Wow! it does help though not by 100%, but now it took 6 levels to start lag out instead of 1, though it uses gameservice which means it lower the volume automatically and dim the screen or oversaturate colours at times, but it seems there is a way, thank you!

Well still same awful lag i think ill return my gs7 and buy something else

what SOC are you guys having? im on exynos and I have no problems with lag :\

me too.. exynos here with no problems

Exynos samw thing happens on note 5 6.0.1

Same here on S7 edge Exynos version

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Exynos samw thing happens on note 5 6.0.1
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what games are you reffering to? since mine is ok with everything I trow at it but yours isen`t?!

Try angry birds 2 for 10 levels and youll see lag happens after a bit. If u minimize and then maximize it, it works bettet for a sec then lags again.

I will install angry birds to see if it is a bug with that game, I played way more demanding games than angrybird without a hickup so it can`t be the GPU.

What games u played that worked perfect let me know i try

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What games u played that worked perfect let me know i try
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Derpling said:
What games u played that worked perfect let me know i try
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angrybirds isen`t a demanding game..think it just needs an update..will try it later though.

It actually more demanding then it looks, as it lags on lot of devices, just watch when there is a lot of action how the birds throwing animation is not smooth.

yeah, i'm also on the exynos version, and there is zero lag in any of my games, or anything else i do. the exynos also has better battery life than the snapdragon.

stevae said:
yeah, i'm also on the exynos version, and there is zero lag in any of my games, or anything else i do. the exynos also has better battery life than the snapdragon.
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I got my S7 Edge earlier, the exynos version. I am also experiencing some lags, the game i tried is vector. Also on Facebook basketball in messenger also lagging, in my note 4 no lag. what the hell

Derpling said:
It actually more demanding then it looks, as it lags on lot of devices, just watch when there is a lot of action how the birds throwing animation is not smooth.
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Tried it for 10 levels as you said..no lag what so ever, even filmed it using gamelauncher. Must be some app or some setting that is causing this lag of yours.
https://youtu.be/SJDl_HJkrO0
Played for all 10 levels straight. With 15%battery left and also recorded at the same time.

it super laggy in the video, it plays really bad. to sum it up, the birds animation and game should not fall from 60fps, that what was on mine Note 5 with 5.1.1 but not with 6.0.1.
You affected as well, u might use AZRecorder as it does not have performance penalty.

PUBG mobile really stuck

Hi, I just got the Galaxy s10 plus and I am having a weird issue. When I play PUBG mobile it is really stuck and I have fps drops every second or 2, the game is really not playable.. I have the exynos version. Is it possible that my previous s7 edge ran the game better?! I tried reinstalling the game and cleaning the cache but nothing works.. Any ideas?

PUBG used to run at 15fps when it came out on console, they're just not the smartest Devs.

Corv0 said:
PUBG used to run at 15fps when it came out on console, they're just not the smartest Devs.
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I had the Huawei P20 pro before and it ran on 50-60 fps with no stutter.. Is it possible that a 2 yo processor is better then the new Exynos on the S10 plus? Or am I missing anything?

Adi_vizgan said:
I had the Huawei P20 pro before and it ran on 50-60 fps with no stutter.. Is it possible that a 2 yo processor is better then the new Exynos on the S10 plus? Or am I missing anything?
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No.
The P20 Pro is a generation behind and it even has less clusters, if anything it's 100% Pubg's fault for not being optimised to new hardware, it's common for new devices to suffer that for a few months.

pubg on my mobile has the buttons beyond the screen even. it sucks big time. so i keep playing it on my mate 20pro for now...

i play some on mine and no issues whatsoever. Runs better then it did on my pixel 3 xl

Adi_vizgan said:
Hi, I just got the Galaxy s10 plus and I am having a weird issue. When I play PUBG mobile it is really stuck and I have fps drops every second or 2, the game is really not playable.. I have the exynos version. Is it possible that my previous s7 edge ran the game better?! I tried reinstalling the game and cleaning the cache but nothing works.. Any ideas?
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Hey buddy, similar issue here but it's not unplayable. Just a few frame drops every 10-20 secs or so. I could play it just fine on my note 9, with an exynos chip, and so that leads me to believe either pubg or the newer exynos chip hasn't had a software optimisation update yet.. it will come and when it does it clearly will be far more stable than the previous chip.

Adi_vizgan said:
Hi, I just got the Galaxy s10 plus and I am having a weird issue. When I play PUBG mobile it is really stuck and I have fps drops every second or 2, the game is really not playable.. I have the exynos version. Is it possible that my previous s7 edge ran the game better?! I tried reinstalling the game and cleaning the cache but nothing works.. Any ideas?
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I have the Exynos version and it runs at 60 fps with no problem. I think you should go to game launcher and at the bottom right there is a settings wheel with performance logo, press on it and then select focus on performance and make sure you are not on power saving mode. hope it works bro! good luck.

I was facing same issue fps dropping constantly i have flashed my phone through odin and all fixed now.
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RockyAJ said:
pubg on my mobile has the buttons beyond the screen even. it sucks big time. so i keep playing it on my mate 20pro for now...
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no issue for me. I've selected rounded corners and made this game full screen.
it depends on which side of the landscape u r playing on.
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I downloaded it just to try it for you and there's no stutter or low fps, I think you should do a factory reset and follow my guide, there's something wrong.

Adi_vizgan said:
Hi, I just got the Galaxy s10 plus and I am having a weird issue. When I play PUBG mobile it is really stuck and I have fps drops every second or 2, the game is really not playable.. I have the exynos version. Is it possible that my previous s7 edge ran the game better?! I tried reinstalling the game and cleaning the cache but nothing works.. Any ideas?
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Corv0 said:
I downloaded it just to try it for you and there's no stutter or low fps, I think you should do a factory reset and follow my guide, there's something wrong.
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Rather annoyingly I seem to be getting the same issue as the OP. Gaming performance (pubg) really hasn't been great with frequent stuttering and frame drops. Worse performance than my note 9. But if others of you can play without fault then it is something more localised. I don't have many apps installed, my phone is fresh as of two days, I'm using performance mode in the gaming tool app, and also am not in power saving mode.... any other guesses as to mine and op issue might be?
Any help appreciated

Mine runs Pubg brilliantly with HDR and ultra framerate.

s10 has a problem with the separation of sound. When I play and talk to discord I hear the game very badly. Note 9 does not have this pr0blem

So I played pubg last night, and my persist issue with the frame drops continued throughout the game. It's not unplayable by all accounts, however it is distracting and does leave me at a slight disadvantage.
Anyhow, I decided to have a play around in dev options, in my phone settings. And after some googling I decided to try "force GPU rendering" - I then tried pubg and the frame drops had completely stopped. I have no idea why this is, as from my research most developers enable it by default in their games, and when I googled it people mentioned a placebo effect.
Placebo effect or not, I can categorically state that the frame drops stopped, and force GPU rendering was the only option I changed out of the game.
Weird... would love to know anyones opinion on this?

Everyone having problem playing PUBG do the following.
1. Update game launcher ( Samsung just released an update)
2. Log out of the game
3. Hit repair on the right Corner on the login screen
4. Tick all the boxes, done
5. Restart the game and let it download the updates again
6. Restart again and then try to play PUBG
7. OPTIONAL: Switch off Dolby atoms
Let me know if this works

Corv0 said:
PUBG used to run at 15fps when it came out on console, they're just not the smartest Devs.
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calling glorified arma 3 modders "devs" makes me laugh for all the wrong reasons, that is literally where the game was cloned from after all.

toodamnmuch said:
calling glorified arma 3 modders "devs" makes me laugh for all the wrong reasons, that is literally where the game was cloned from after all.
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I never had interest in either game but I can imagine they'd do that.

salmanati said:
I was facing same issue fps dropping constantly i have flashed my phone through odin and all fixed now.
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No lags or frames drop? HDR + extreme?