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"Additional Security" during lock screen...

So my S7 Edge is constantly telling me for additional security purposes to input my pattern instead of my fingerprint, which is what I've set it to, to unlock the device. And it happens very frequently. Almost to an absurd amount.
Is anyone else experiencing this with their S7 Edge? It's very annoying because I only want to use my fingerprint to unlock my device. I understand during a reboot that it might ask for it the first time, fine, but after that, it should be done. But it keeps asking me for it randomly and frequently.
Does anyone know what is going on there? Why it happens so often?

It only happens to me after a reboot.
onthecouchagain said:
So my S7 Edge is constantly telling me for additional security purposes to input my pattern instead of my fingerprint, which is what I've set it to, to unlock the device. And it happens very frequently. Almost to an absurd amount.
Is anyone else experiencing this with their S7 Edge? It's very annoying because I only want to use my fingerprint to unlock my device. I understand during a reboot that it might ask for it the first time, fine, but after that, it should be done. But it keeps asking me for it randomly and frequently.
Does anyone know what is going on there? Why it happens so often?
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Do you use Nova launcher? I've noticed it will require me to enter my pattern if I use the double tap to turn off display feature.
onthecouchagain said:
So my S7 Edge is constantly telling me for additional security purposes to input my pattern instead of my fingerprint, which is what I've set it to, to unlock the device. And it happens very frequently. Almost to an absurd amount.
Is anyone else experiencing this with their S7 Edge? It's very annoying because I only want to use my fingerprint to unlock my device. I understand during a reboot that it might ask for it the first time, fine, but after that, it should be done. But it keeps asking me for it randomly and frequently.
Does anyone know what is going on there? Why it happens so often?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iglint.android.screenlockpro
Use this app instead to turn off the display.
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windycitymichael said:
Do you use Nova launcher? I've noticed it will require me to enter my pattern if I use the double tap to turn off display feature.
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I have the same problem and I can confirm that when I use Action Launcher's turn off display shortcut it causes the "additional security" prompt to come up, otherwise no prompt. I will try using the above referenced app instead.

I'm using NOVA and am getting this incessantly (though I cannot see any pattern, it can appear after I manually lock, or when the screen times out). I'm not using any shortcuts to turn off the screen (like double tap)
Am on APC7 firmware, upgrades haven't made a difference. One of the most glaring annoyances in an otherwise wonderful phone
Is anyone NOT having this issue while using NOVA or a non-stock launcher? Would be happy to switch launchers (or even factory reset)
update: have tried using the google launcher, disabling NOVA but to no avail

optimummind said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iglint.android.screenlockpro
Use this app instead to turn off the display.
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Since I upgraded from PC8 to PD1, I also experienced this problem but the app you mentioned still not solved it. The device still requires a pattern instead of fingerprint unlock.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/security-policy-prevents-fingerprint-t3354270

I've got it solved.
If you're using Nova Launcher disable the Lock Screen option from device admin to > None

The solution which works for me is a simulation of power button. Try this [root required]: http://llamalab.com/automate/community/flows/2002

How to double tap to sleep without require to enter password instead of fingerprint?

I tried nova launcher with tap to sleep app, but every time reopen the phone it will require me to enter the password again.

I think this is a new marshmallow feature. If a third party app locks phone, it requires password. What happens if you manually lock or let time out.
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Screen Lock Pro by Prahallad has a setting to bypass security. There is a free app by the same Dev but I haven't tried it.
Once installed you can link Nova's double tap setting to it.

Try screen off and lock app

nobnut said:
Screen Lock Pro by Prahallad has a setting to bypass security. There is a free app by the same Dev but I haven't tried it.
Once installed you can link Nova's double tap setting to it.
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This ^.
It's the only app I've found that doesn't cause the pin lock screen to show the next time you unlock.

nobnut said:
Screen Lock Pro by Prahallad has a setting to bypass security. There is a free app by the same Dev but I haven't tried it.
Once installed you can link Nova's double tap setting to it.
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Hi
Thanks for the pointer, I tried the free version of the app, and setup my Nova's double-tap gesture to use Screen Lock shortcut, I am able to lock the screen but unable to wakeup w/ a fingerprint. Is there something special you had to do?
Thanks in advance

meyerweb said:
This ^.
It's the only app I've found that doesn't cause the pin lock screen to show the next time you unlock.
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Does this app really lock the phone or it just shutdown the screen until the phone unlock itself on its own?
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Legolas2 said:
Hi
Thanks for the pointer, I tried the free version of the app, and setup my Nova's double-tap gesture to use Screen Lock shortcut, I am able to lock the screen but unable to wakeup w/ a fingerprint. Is there something special you had to do?
Thanks in advance
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You need to Pro version to bypass nexus imprint.
turtuv said:
Does this app really lock the phone or it just shutdown the screen until the phone unlock itself on its own?
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It just turn the screen black until it lock itself. Takes about 3-4s. I know the developer wrote there 10s but it only takes 3-4s on s7e. You know it when the AOD comes on etc etc...

As of now, from what I can tell there is no way to use an app or double tap to lock the screen without requiring a pin for a non rooted phone. Apps that turn off the screen but don't lock the phone isn't really an answer.
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Turn off screenow only using Screen Lock Pro
swiftfury said:
As of now, from what I can tell there is no way to use an app or double tap to lock the screen without requiring a pin for a non rooted phone. Apps that turn off the screen but don't lock the phone isn't really an answer.
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It is an answer though. You just have to tweak the settings in the security section so the phone locks immediately. There is still a 2 sec delay but to get to lock the screen with a double tap again and get to unlock with touch ID it's fine. It costs a little over $3 though.... which isn't much but is on the steep side for such a single purpose app. There is a marshmallows touch ID workaround setting in it as explained which merely turns the display blank (although for me the edge thing is still visible) then after a really short delay the screen actually turns off and AOD turns on. With the system settings set right it actually locks securely the moment AOD turns on. Max 2 sec delay. No one's gonna get a chance to get in your phone that quick.:good:

So, I did come across this same issue, and it seemed to have started for me when I applied the May Security Update. It happened on my Note 5 and my S7 Edge. But when I applied the July security patch to my Note 5, double tap to lock WITHOUT a pin next login actually worked again, not so on my S7 Edge, after applying. Havent had enough time to research and dig, but doesn't make sense working on 1 and not the other when both are 6.01, both on July security patch, both Verizon models, and both use Nova Prime. Has had me stumped since May....

Sorry. Original post placed in forum for wong device.

Most recent update breaks screenoff + fingerprint

Before today's update, I was running Nova with double tap set to the app screen off and lock. This allowed me to double tap the home screen to shut the screen off and lock the phone (I prefer this to clicking the power button). After the update, I can still do this, but it will no longer work with fingerprint unlock. If I try unlocking the screen using fingerprint, it forces the pattern unlock. Does anyone know a way to fix this?
Thanks.

xemnas18 said:
Before today's update, I was running Nova with double tap set to the app screen off and lock. This allowed me to double tap the home screen to shut the screen off and lock the phone (I prefer this to clicking the power button). After the update, I can still do this, but it will no longer work with fingerprint unlock. If I try unlocking the screen using fingerprint, it forces the pattern unlock. Does anyone know a way to fix this?
Thanks.
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It's a Marshmellow thing and was like that before the update (at least there were many reports of it, I don't use that feature of Nova).
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_Dennis_ said:
It's a Marantz thing and was like that before the update (at least there were many reports of it, I don't use that feature of Nova).
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I'm not familiar with that, but it was definitely working for me before the update. It's not really a Nova feature; Nova just supplies the double tap gesture function which can be used for anything. I think it has something to do with lock screen security, but nothing I tried worked. Thanks anyways.

xemnas18 said:
I'm not familiar with that, but it was definitely working for me before the update. It's not really a Nova feature; Nova just supplies the double tap gesture function which can be used for anything. I think it has something to do with lock screen security, but nothing I tried worked. Thanks anyways.
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It's a Marshmellow thing, not a Nova thing. It doesn't work on 6p, or 5x, or any other variant of the s7. Or with any other apps that lock the screen. Seems like it may have been a fluke if it worked on yours. It has to do with the apis for smart lock and Google's fingerprint api.
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xemnas18 said:
Before today's update, I was running Nova with double tap set to the app screen off and lock. This allowed me to double tap the home screen to shut the screen off and lock the phone (I prefer this to clicking the power button). After the update, I can still do this, but it will no longer work with fingerprint unlock. If I try unlocking the screen using fingerprint, it forces the pattern unlock. Does anyone know a way to fix this?
Thanks.
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Same thing with me. The update messed mine up as well. I use this app now with Nova double tap and its working good. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iwashisoft.screenoff&hl=en
It doesn't lock the screen it just turns it off but it will lock when the setting you have it set for times out. I have mine at 30 seconds.

bjtcars said:
Same thing with me. The update messed mine up as well. I use this app now with Nova double tap and its working good. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iwashisoft.screenoff&hl=en
It doesn't lock the screen it just turns it off but it will lock when the setting you have it set for times out. I have mine at 30 seconds.
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That fixed it. Thanks a ton man. I don't see any settings for it though.

xemnas18 said:
That fixed it. Thanks a ton man. I don't see any settings for it though.
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Its in the phone settings> Lockscreen and Security> Secure Lock Settings> Lock Automatically> pick one

No it doesn't... FUD
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I use a different tap to lock screen and it now makes me use the pattern all the time. If I use the power switch and wait the 30 seconds the fingerprint works. Try that and see if it works not using Nova.
It is third party lock/screen off apps that cause the enter pattern always function.

bjtcars said:
Its in the phone settings> Lockscreen and Security> Secure Lock Settings> Lock Automatically> pick one
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Got it. Thanks again.
admiral70 said:
I use a different tap to lock screen and it now makes me use the pattern all the time. If I use the power switch and wait the 30 seconds the fingerprint works. Try that and see if it works not using Nova.
It is third party lock/screen off apps that cause the enter pattern always function.
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Thanks for the reply, but it works now. You just have to use a different app that turns the screen off but does not lock it. With the new app, the phone will lock itself after a few seconds and then I can use fingerprint properly when I turn it back on.

Installed the update from last night, after the phone rebooted the recent and back capacitive buttons are not working. I just did the repair software tool with verizon and that didn't fix it. Crazy...

Enable Knock off using Nova Prime?

I was using screen lock pro previous on my Note 7 which worked, but it does not play nice with Nougat and the stock Nova gesture cause you to not be able to do a subsequent unlock using fingerprint sensor

seriously? God that's annoying. I have that problem on my s7 and I figured a phone that had native knock on would work fine but androids dumb ass security Bs is preventing it from working right. well that's crap.
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try screen off and lock 1.17.3. it's old, but should work as long as you allow it as a device administrator

Smart Launcher does the same. If you use the double tap gesture to trun off the screen, it makes you use a pattern or knock code to unlock it again. I've just been using the notification bar double tap.

Amd4life said:
try screen off and lock 1.17.3. it's old, but should work as long as you allow it as a device administrator
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Didn't work

nest75068 said:
Didn't work
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Try DTSO from the Google Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.enlace.doubletap&hl=en
I use the Dynamic widget/Transparent option for screen-off.
Using Apex Launcher Pro & no lockscreen security,other than the swipe to open (No fingerprint/code or pattern lock) & the stock Double-Tap to unlock works fine.
It's the Double-Tap to screen-off function that I use with this app & it works flawlessly.
I realize most want to use a screen security lock of some sort,but,wanted to post this work-around for 3rd party launchers for the few that don't use lock screen security measures.

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Didn't work
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did you go into security settings on the phone and make Nova AND screen off....device administrators? Then go into nova settings, gestures, and then select the double tap gesture...choose apps and then select screen off.
works fine on my device

Amd4life said:
did you go into security settings on the phone and make Nova AND screen off....device administrators? Then go into nova settings, gestures, and then select the double tap gesture...choose apps and then select screen off.
works fine on my device
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Yep, both are device administrators. When I try to unlock the device, it says device administrator has locked it and needs my pin.
I had this issue on my S7 and Note 7 and used screen lock pro since it had a delay it would work, but it does not play nice with Nougat

I just set up a double tap gesture to lock screen. When you do it the first time it gives you two options: Make nova a device admin, or not. With the first method, you wont be able to unlock with fingerprint. With the second, you can unlock with fingerprint but it takes about 15-20 seconds before you can. I went with the second option.

czerdrill said:
I just set up a double tap gesture to lock screen. When you do it the first time it gives you two options: Make nova a device admin, or not. With the first method, you wont be able to unlock with fingerprint. With the second, you can unlock with fingerprint but it takes about 15-20 seconds before you can. I went with the second option.
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Not sure what options you're talking about. But this is what I get when I try. It specifically says you have to use pin

nest75068 said:
Not sure what options you're talking about. But this is what I get when I try. It specifically says you have to use pin
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Yeah that's weird. Here's my options

czerdrill said:
Yeah that's weird. Here's my options
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Do you still have the apk for the screen off app you're using? Also what model V20 do you have?

nest75068 said:
Do you still have the apk for the screen off app you're using? Also what model V20 do you have?
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It's just nova launcher i don't have any other screen off app. And it's the t mobile variant
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czerdrill said:
It's just nova launcher i don't have any other screen off app. And it's the t mobile variant
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Can you post exactly what you set up, steps and everything cause it's weird that yours is like that.
Are you using fingerprint sensor or pin lock screen?

nest75068 said:
Can you post exactly what you set up, steps and everything cause it's weird that yours is like that.
Are you using fingerprint sensor or pin lock screen?
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I'm using knock code and fingerprint sensor. In nova all i did was go to gestures and set the double tap gesture to screen lock. That's when that message comes up. No other third party software.
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nest75068 said:
Can you post exactly what you set up, steps and everything cause it's weird that yours is like that.
Are you using fingerprint sensor or pin lock screen?
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You know what i just realized something. I'm a bet tester for nova, maybe it's an unreleased feature. You can sign up to beta test also it's an open beta. I believe you do it through novas Google plus page
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czerdrill said:
I'm using knock code and fingerprint sensor. In nova all i did was go to gestures and set the double tap gesture to screen lock. That's when that message comes up. No other third party software.
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You know what i just realized something. I'm a bet tester for nova, maybe it's an unreleased feature. You can sign up to beta test also it's an open beta. I believe you do it through novas Google plus page
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Awesome. Just signed up. Csnt wait for the update.

I got the beta and get the option. Only thing is the phone never truly locks. I lowered my screen off time frame from 30 seconds to 15 seconds and still nothing

nest75068 said:
I got the beta and get the option. Only thing is the phone never truly locks. I lowered my screen off time frame from 30 seconds to 15 seconds and still nothing
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It does take a little longer than it says. But eventually it does. I'm hoping once the feature is out of beta it works as advertised.

This was/Still is driving me crazy, being not able to unlock using fingerprint after setting Nova as a device Admin is really a bummer, but then again, this only was introduced in Marshmallow and up, it seems that Devs are getting more and more crazy about the "Security" and now, with each update, its getting really annoying, stuff like "Screen Overlay" and this, is seriously annoying.
I joined Nova Beta, lets see !

I reached out to Nova for answers. They said that it's an unfortunate situation with how 6.0+ was designed but said that there is a workaround if you're rooted. I've asked for this details. Since I really don't care about android pay, I'll probably root this phone.

Double tap to sleep?

It works fine when I use one of lg's launchers. Using nova launcher it does not work. I can force it to work, or I can use greenify to hibernate and lock screen but both methods require device admin privileges. No biggie, but then you're forced to use patter unlock, and I would venture whatever other method you use as back to the fingerprint scanner. I am using pattern. It requires I use it because I gave those two other methods to lock phone development admin privileges thus making fingerprint scanner a lot less useful. It wakes phone but I have to use pattern like I would if I rebooted. Anybody using nova having same problems or found a workaround? Bugging the hell out of me as I finally have a nice finger scanner, coming from the note4 and it was almost useless with a case on, and I love unlocking my phone as I take it out of my pocket. If others using nova are having same problem let's brainstorm and figure this out. It is nice double tapping to lock phone also.

Double tap the notification bar works anywhere.
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@rbiter said:
It works fine when I use one of lg's launchers. Using nova launcher it does not work. I can force it to work, or I can use greenify to hibernate and lock screen but both methods require device admin privileges. No biggie, but then you're forced to use patter unlock, and I would venture whatever other method you use as back to the fingerprint scanner. I am using pattern. It requires I use it because I gave those two other methods to lock phone development admin privileges thus making fingerprint scanner a lot less useful. It wakes phone but I have to use pattern like I would if I rebooted. Anybody using nova having same problems or found a workaround? Bugging the hell out of me as I finally have a nice finger scanner, coming from the note4 and it was almost useless with a case on, and I love unlocking my phone as I take it out of my pocket. If others using nova are having same problem let's brainstorm and figure this out. It is nice double tapping to lock phone also.
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I already covered this in another thread - it's a known issue since Android 6. In 6 there was a workaround but with 7, there has been changes and the workaround doesn't work.
I spoke with Nova and there is a root workaround for it but we don't have root yet.

david279 said:
Double tap the notification bar works anywhere.
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Thanks dude. You're my hero today.

david279 said:
Double tap the notification bar works anywhere.
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This doesn't work for me at all... No matter where I 'double tap', the screen never turns off. I can only get it to turn on...

HikariNoKitsune said:
This doesn't work for me at all... No matter where I 'double tap', the screen never turns off. I can only get it to turn on...
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Double tap the notification bar for screen off. It works

HikariNoKitsune said:
This doesn't work for me at all... No matter where I 'double tap', the screen never turns off. I can only get it to turn on...
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It works. Might have to practice a little bit. Speed and accuracy helps.

Skripka said:
Double tap the notification bar for screen off. It works
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It works. Might have to practice a little bit. Speed and accuracy helps.
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I've used the G3 for quite a while... I learned how the double tap works for it quite well lol. I know where at in the notification bar you should tap for it work. Unless its dramatically different on the V20's implementation of it, it just simply does not work for me...

@rbiter said:
It works fine when I use one of lg's launchers. Using nova launcher it does not work. I can force it to work, or I can use greenify to hibernate and lock screen but both methods require device admin privileges. No biggie, but then you're forced to use patter unlock, and I would venture whatever other method you use as back to the fingerprint scanner. I am using pattern. It requires I use it because I gave those two other methods to lock phone development admin privileges thus making fingerprint scanner a lot less useful. It wakes phone but I have to use pattern like I would if I rebooted. Anybody using nova having same problems or found a workaround? Bugging the hell out of me as I finally have a nice finger scanner, coming from the note4 and it was almost useless with a case on, and I love unlocking my phone as I take it out of my pocket. If others using nova are having same problem let's brainstorm and figure this out. It is nice double tapping to lock phone also.
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I use nova and it works for me...Did you go into the nova config and enable it? I can dbl tap to sleep and wake...
Good luck
Bleeds

HikariNoKitsune said:
I've used the G3 for quite a while... I learned how the double tap works for it quite well lol. I know where at in the notification bar you should tap for it work. Unless its dramatically different on the V20's implementation of it, it just simply does not work for me...
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It's a PITA and will take some getting used to. I had the LG G3 and the OPPO Find 7 which both had dttw. But with nova you have to hit the tiny notification bar, which as someone said will take some practice. Just make sure you have it turned on in nova's settings.
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