How does the phone decide of it is charging rapidly. - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Almost every charger ive ever plugged my phone into has said charging rapidly. Even my mom's cheap gas station car adapter. Is this a matter of 5v vs amps? I've always used amps to ensure the power of a charger but a 1amp adapter is telling the phone it is charging rapidly..

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Compatible chargers

Anyone else have any experiences they'd like to share using non-OEM chargers?
I use my HP TouchPad charger in my living room, as my HP Touchstone plugs into it usually. It charges the N7 at exactly the same rate as the OEM charger.
Just curious about others' experiences.
Oh....and is anyone else w/the HP TouchPad just completely spoiled regarding tablet prices? $250 seemed like a lot of money to pay, LOL.
http://saraoutlet.com/yxt-023-us-2-...for-apple-ipad-iphone-4g-3gs-white-35561.html
I use this, it charges my iphone, ipad, ipod touch, samsung, and now my nexus. I have one for the car as well that is 1A/2.1A.
the blackberry playbook 1.8a charger works really well. indistinguishable from the supplied OEM. available for $16 bucks or so in retail packaging.
I've used the same charger for my Galaxy SII. Seemed to do the job well and just as quickly!
I have a few blackberry chargers one is a playbook one and some other android chargers.. they all work just fine.
I'd love to know if there are any portable chargers that will charge the Nexus 7 without being plugged into the wall, so, I can charge it when I'm laying in bed or something, I have portable USB chargers that I don't thing would work with the 7 The Duracell Powerhouse USB charger and the Sony Media CP-ELS USB Portable Charger with 2,000 mAh Li-Ion Battery, I use them interchangeably with my iPhone 4S and Playstation Vita.
Okay, I went through my "wall wart" drawer and tried 8 chargers and 9 cables. I can't find any pattern to the results
There was one cable (skinny black generic USB) that didn't work with charger, and one charger (from a Kingston Wi-Drive) that wouldn't work with any cable.
The best cable was a white mini-usb (that I used with a mini-micro dongle) that had come with my generic 5000 mAH backup battery; it worked with *everything* except the Wi-Drive charger. The best chargers were the OEM ASUS charger, and a generic small black cube (1A) labelled "KIN"; those worked with every cable except the skinny black dud.
The worst of the working chargers were an "Innergie" dual laptop/USB power supply, and the generic battery backup. Those only worked with that white cable.
Honorable mentions go to an old Motorola RAZR charger (used with a mini-micro dongle) and a small Samsung phone charger. Those have permanent cables, and both worked.
I couldn't pick up any pattern in terms of amp rating (obviously, the lower amp chargers will take longer). It seems to be "luck of the draw".
I've tried probably 4-5 different chargers including a Motorola wall charger plugged in the wall, and also plugged into a power inverter in my truck, a motorola car charger and an oem wall charger and have no issues with any of them.
iPad 3 charger compatibility
Can anyone confirm if N7 charges using the new iPad 10W charger? Mine only supports the charger that came with it. Does that mean that the usb port is broken and I need to replace it or is it the way all the units behave?
Other XDA threads with similar topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780211
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781680
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784322
dmalovic said:
Can anyone confirm if N7 charges using the new iPad 10W charger? Mine only supports the charger that came with it. Does that mean that the usb port is broken and I need to replace it or is it the way all the units behave?
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It charges using my iPad2 charger, which I think is the same charger as the new iPad?
The Nexus 7 does not show charging when plugged into any of my OEM/aftermarket Apple chargers.
It does not appear to matter whether I use the USB cable supplied by Asus, or a standard commodity micro USB cable.
There is evidence from other users that the tablet may be charging at the 1A rate even though the charge indicator stays off.
I have not personally confirmed this yet.
Im using the charger of my BlackBerry playbook! 5volts 2amp!
From 0% to 100% in less than 3 hours!
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I bought 10 of the HP Touchpad chargers for $5 shipped a few weeks ago. They work perfect for the Nexus 7, same plug, 2AH charging..
I think you can still find them for $5 shipped @ hp.com
All my micro USB chargers work , from Nokia to BlackBerry to HTC all fab all charge the n7 OK
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martyg7 said:
The Nexus 7 does not show charging when plugged into any of my OEM/aftermarket Apple chargers.
It does not appear to matter whether I use the USB cable supplied by Asus, or a standard commodity micro USB cable.
There is evidence from other users that the tablet may be charging at the 1A rate even though the charge indicator stays off.
I have not personally confirmed this yet.
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I've had one of those OEM/aftermarket Apple charges blow up on me (not shrapnel, it stayed in the plastic casing), so I wouldn't expect much from those anyway. Have you tried with any standard micro USB phone charger?
Chargers that work:
- Motorola Droid Pro (hard-wired micro USB). Rated at 800 mA but seems to charge almost as fast as the OEM.
- Kin One (Uses any USB cable). Rated at 1A, works with every USB cable I have (almost; there were a couple that didn't work with anything). These are available on-line for less than 10 bucks:
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Standard-Wall-Charger-CNR1002/dp/B005IY428Y
http://www.aftermarketcellular.com/ic/CNR1002.html
This is nice and compact; I'm going to order a couple of more to have as spares.
- Motoroloa RAZR (hard-wired mini-USB, used with mini-to-micro adapter). Rated at 500 mA. Works, but probably pretty slow.
- Samsung (from unknown phone; hard-wired micro-USB) rated at 750 mA. Didn't test charge time.
As an aside, I have a 5000 mAh backup battery that I've used with phones and my Nook color (http://www.amazon.com/5000mAh-External-Motorola-Blackberry-Nintendo/dp/B004P8E612). It works with the Nexus, but ONLY with the mini-USB cable that the Power Bank shipped with. Every other cable I've tried chokes. It's intended for an iPhone and puts 6.5V across the power pins (with no load; this is about the same as the Kin) and pulls the data pins to 3.4V. What's weird is that I can connect a 2-conductor (charge only) extension in series with the working cable, so that the data signal never reaches the Nexus. If I use a 2-conductor cable by itself, the Nexus doesn't charge.
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Chargers that work:
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When you say they work, are they showing as AC charging when you use them or are they just charging.
Go-to battery stats and it will say either
Charging (USB)
Or
Charging (AC)
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Compatable car charger
It's really disappointing to know N7 is so picky about chargers. Can anyone report on a working small/short car USB charger that is compatible?
You might want to check that your vehicle can provide 2amps from its cigarette lighter plug. Normal only utility plugs can do that.
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tip: charging noise and minimum Ampere needed

I've been reading already too many times the same story about battery charging noise, and inability to charge. My findings:
1. some charges make a high pitched noise. This is normal. It is not your phone that is broke, it's the converter inside the charger (which is not broke either). Manufacturers unfortunately try to save money and use cheaper and cheaper components. Some chargers make a sound, some don't Try using another microUSB charger, or use a standard USB adapter plug and a microUSB cable. Tonight I've tested HTC and Nokia, and found out that those Fins make excellent chargers
2. The standard Samsung charger has 2.0A output at 5.0V (that is a whopping 10W for the mathematicians among you, (also for others actually)). Note that ampere output is just a specification from the manufacturer, it is not absolute. My HTC charger gives 1.0A and my Nokia charger 1.2A. Tonight I discovered that you need at least 1200mA to charge when the phone is on. However, I've successfully charged the phone while switched off with the 1000mA charger. I haven't tried with less amperes yet.
3. While the phone is on and the 1000mA charger plugged in, the phone sound an alarm every second and a blinking "charging xx%" is shown on the screen. It drove me nuts at first until I switched to the aforementioned 1200mA charger, which stopped the sound and continued charging normally. Note that my phone did not start with complaining until it reached 19% with my phone, but I've seen posts by other users who experienced the same behaviour at other precentages.
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Slow charging unless using OEM cable

Whats the deal here? Anyone find any other cables that work? If I use a monoprice premium cable with a 1 amp car charger with bluetooth and music going it won't charge. But if I use the same car charger and use the OEM LG cord that came with the phone the phone charges fine. Same thing in the house plugged in with the stock charger base. Its super slow unless you use the OEM cable.
There is a HUGE thread about this.
I think we've narrowed it down to the AWG thickness of the cable. The Stock Cable is really thick and able to carry the voltage properly. Using another cable with thinner wires, it can't provide enough juice.
But there is a huge thread on this already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460881
GTvert90 said:
f I use a monoprice premium cable with a 1 amp car charger with bluetooth and music going it won't charge.
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The new chargers are 1.8A vs the old 1A charger. Less amperage = Less power, that is why it is slow charging. The width of a cable can limit the amount of amperage passed, so for 1A you can expect a thinner cable.

How many chargers do you have/own..

First thread.. not here to start any issues..
Well quick question, how many chargers do you guys use/own? Since it's Dash charge and we are unable to use any other bricks due to the Dash Charging capabilities how many should a OP user have to be fully effecient.
For me.. i will have three when my new shipment comes in from OP. Used the 5$ they gave me for the delay and took off shipping (paid 29$) for an extra charger. I also bought a 3t charger on Offer Up for 5$ lol. and the stock charger.
I just dont want to be left with a dead phone when i can easily find a socket and plug it in for 15 min for a nice boost.. :good::good:
I bought an additional one to make the total of 2. One will permanently be in my bedroom where I plug it in overnight, and the other will be downstairs in my den/office where I spend most my time whenever I'm at home, during the day.
I'll also just be using that second charger as a to-go charger if I ever need to take it with me, so 2 total chargers seem like the perfect amount! I don't want to spend any more money on a third charger anyway lol
I'm in the same boat. Just couldn't believe someone was selling their dash charger for 5$ on offer up.. had to pick it up. Messed up part about it, the night before I spent 30 on a new charger.
I've bought some micro usb to usb C adaptors so I can still utilise all my old cables. I don't always need to dash charge.
I saw the video on how fast it charged with the dash car charger where it was pitted up against the S8 with both running Google Maps. OP5 went from 2% to 43% in 30 min and S8 went from 2% to 12%in the same time. When I saw that I changed my from an extra brick to the car charger (which came with a cable of it's own). This way in the car for 20-30 min will be fine when I'm out and about. If I'm not going to be with my car I'll just grab the brick.
With that said, I'm getting like up to 9.5 hours on a charge (averaging 8.5 hours SOT) so once its charged, is there really a need most days to worry about charging it mid day?
lopmig1 said:
we are unable to use any other bricks
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Says who?
You can recharge the OP5 using any 5V charger. The limitation is that it will take longer to recharge the battery. But that shouldn't be an issue if you recharge overnight.
Also because the battery lasts so long on a charge you don't need to do a full recharge in order to get a day's worth of charge. Indeed slower recharging and less than full recharging should also help to extend the useful life of the battery.
So for all of these reasons I intend to use only the single Dash charger that came with my OP5 plus all the other "regular" chargers I've accumulated over the years. I've already bought USB and microUSB to USB-C adapters to use with my charger collection.
P.S. The OP5 indicates what type of charger it detects:
5V 0.5A as found on PC USB ports shows "Charging slowly."
5V 1.8A as found on a typical smartphone charger shows, "Charging."
Dash charger shows, "Dash Charging."
I've bought 4 dash chargers. 1 at my desk in my house, 1 at my bed, 1 in my office at my work and one in my travel bag. An there is also always a fully charged 10.000mah powerbank in there... I did the same with my handicapped Galaxy S6 haha. But Now I figure out my OnePlus 5 goes on and on and on... without breaking a sweat hahahaha.
I've got 3 of them... One at home, one at work, one in my bag.
Stupid question, cuz I haven't tried yet and I'm wondering... if you can use the charger to charge other devices? I know, it won't charge them faster or blah blah but do you think I can use it to charge my MP3 player or some other phone? Or is it purely proprietary and has something more than the other chargers?
Unfortunately the QC 2.0 and 3.0 blocks I have, like 11 of them are super slow, as noted previously. I only have the one that came with the phone for my house and I got a car charger discounted with the phone. I might end up getting a third for work, not sure. Is there ANY knockoff 3rd party charger than can charge similar to dash charge?
I have one dash charger, the one that came with the phone. I have a bunch of non-dash charger/cable because the previous phone supported QC 3.0. I know this phone does not support QC, but it charges up the phone pretty quick. Not as quick as the dash but quick enough for me. Unless if you are on the phone every minute like playing games or watching a movie, you should be able to get a full day's worth on a single charge.
I have one dash charger which came with phone plus car dash charger. If you are not in hurry and charging it overnight why would it matter dash or regular charger to use?
Phone has so good battery life you don't need to put extra chargers anywhere you go...
But it's personal decision.
PS: usually, if you are charging lipo battery slowly, it goes easy on it and may prolong life of the battery.
As far as dash chargers, I only have the one that came with the phone, which I barely use. I mostly charge my phone directly from a usb C port on my computer when I'm working from home. At night I use an iOrange-E cable that I connect directly to my usb-A/usb-C wall outlet to top it off and unplug it right before going to sleep. Since I'm not a heavy user, a single charge pretty much does it for me and I haven't had the need to use Dash charging to top off my phone.
I don't understand having a bunch of these chargers. Unless you work or live tin can, you should not struggle to get a days worth of battery.
The only extra charger someone should need would be the car. Plug your dash charger in your living room / den, plug a standard usb c charger in your bedroom, and a dash charger in your car.
I can't imagine this setup not working for 90% or more of users.
It's weird, I have 3, I keep one in my laptop bag, I have the dash car charger, and another wall plug I keep in my room. I have maybe used the one I keep in my laptop bag twice. I mostly use the one in my car at the start or end of the day as I commute about 45 minutes to work everyday. Battery on this phone has been better than my oneplus 3 by a noticeable margin.
I only have one dash charger. Just a regular USB-C for typical charging - why would you need it for overnight charges?
The dash charger definitely came in handy today though, since I visited a theme park all day (but came prepared of course).
Battery on this phone has been great. I also went to a water park yesterday, phone was on 15% when I got home.. plugged it in to the dash charger and 40 min later I was in the 90s. Don't know what they did for it to charge that fast, but I'm one happy OP customer.

fast car charger

Hi, i ordered a few car chargers, all were said 'fast charge'/quallcom fast charge 2/3 etc on ebay/aliexpress.
With all of them phone says 'slow charging'.
Can somebody recommend a fast car charger, that's not expensive(less than 15$)?
Thanks
Anker do one its just over £15 here not sure in US
Anker PowerDrive Speed 2 39W
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Powe...pID=418OOluwVML&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
Did you try it with the original or high quality cable? Besides do not buy cheap chargers especially fast ones.
You could damage the battery. I would recommend Samsung's original fast adaptive charger. The older models work well too (you could save some money by buying the older s7 variant). They will ship to you with micro USB, but you could bring your own cable.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charge-Cha...68&sr=1-21&keywords=qualcomm+quick+charge+3.0
I have this one and its perfect always shows fast charging on the phone
Also if you are using a fast charger 2.0 with the screen on it will show cable charging. It will only fast charge with the screen off.
Firstly..more than likely it's the cable(s) you're using. Usually it's the brand/quality of cable that affects charging rates more than anything.
Secondly... with how advanced these chargers and phones are now with QC and all the varying voltages etc..it would behoove you to maybe spend a few extra bucks and go with a high quality power adapter instead of cheap, China mad junk that could potentially seriously damage your phone or battery. The Original Samsung adaptive fast charging adapters-with cable are pretty cheap from numerous outlets. Outside of original Samsung chargers, I've only ever used adapters by Anker. Never had a problem with them and always fast charge with either original cable or the other type of cable I use; wich is the "Snowkids USB type C" on Amazon. Bestseller there.
https://www.amazon.com/Snowkids-Bra...d=1510152529&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+type+c+cable

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