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I am planning to buy several (5/6) Galaxy tabs in late Feb or early March. I want to use them in a class about Android app development using Google App Inventor. The class is for introducing high school students with no programming experience to computer programming. Hence, the apps that we will generate and run on the tabs will be quite simple.
Since I will use the tabs in class, I don't need any data plan. Keeping that in mind, is there any advantage to buy one carrier's version over the other (assuming prices are same)?
The GSM (AT&T, T-Mobile)versions of the Galaxy Tab have 16gb of internal memory vs 2gb on the CDMA devices (Verizon, Sprint) Also the GSM versions seem to support bluetooth keyboards (HID Profile) whereas the CDMA versions do not. So in my opinion since you are not going to use data anyway get the AT&T or the T-Mobile.
Are there any other reasons to choose one over the other? I want to buy one, but don't know which to get. I'd only be using wifi. Is there more support for one than another?
I can tell you the regular retail price of the Sprint Tab without contract is 499.99 and it may only come with 2gb of internal but it does have a 16 gb sdcard. Also Sprint will be selling a bluetooth keyboard for it so I'm not sure what the status of BT really is.
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GSM versions from T-mobile and AT&T are compartible with the rest of the world and enjoy most of software innovation. If you are comfortable with updating the tab firmware yourself GSM versions would give a lot of choices and software released by Samsung to non-US users. Both GSM Tabs support Wifi 802.11n at 2.4GHz and 5GHz, frequency which is free from interference because most of people use 2.4GHz.
The is a wifi only version of the tab for $350 at bestbuy.
Could you use a no name cheaper tab? I see them on craigslist for $150 with android 2.1.
You have to find out which one is the cheapest because without a data plan, you will pay out the yang.
Best bet is to check xda marketplace and see if anyone is selling theirs.
I bought a Xoom in the US last week and am extremely satisfied with it.
However, it appears I can't use the 3G functionality of the Xoom in The Netherlands (where I live), because the European/Dutch Vodafone 3G system is different from Verizon's (HSPDA vs. EVDO). 4G LTE will become available in Europe in about one year, so that's not an option...
From what I understood, this is a hardware issue that cannot be fixed by a software modification.
My question is pretty simple: as I would really hate to return my Xoom to BestBuy... Do you think it'd be possible in a few months, when the Motorola Xoom becomes available in Europe, to have my (US) Xoom hardware-modified to fit the European 3G-standard? And would that be costly?
Thanks
Martijn77 said:
I bought a Xoom in the US last week and am extremely satisfied with it.
However, it appears I can't use the 3G functionality of the Xoom in The Netherlands (where I live), because the European/Dutch Vodafone 3G system is different from Verizon's (HSPDA vs. EVDO). 4G LTE will become available in Europe in about one year, so that's not an option...
From what I understood, this is a hardware issue that cannot be fixed by a software modification.
My question is pretty simple: as I would really hate to return my Xoom to BestBuy... Do you think it'd be possible in a few months, when the Motorola Xoom becomes available in Europe, to have my (US) Xoom hardware-modified to fit the European 3G-standard? And would that be costly?
Thanks
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Just sell the one you have and buy a new one on contract since you need to use the 3G.
I would like that, but the Xoom won't make it's way to The Netherlands very soon, while Motorola has no official import in our country (as far as I know).
No, this won't work. The chipset in the Xoom is for CDMA. Almost all of Europe's major 3G coverage/carriers are GSM, which has a different chipset.
Just pickup the GSM Euro version when it comes out. I believe preorders are already up in some countries if I'm not mistaken.
Oke, then that's what I'll do... Thanks all!
the UK and germany have the euro version of the xoom out next month.
already seen some adds of the UK version beeing simlock free .. dont know if the german version will be simlock free.
if their simlock free it doesnt matter where you get them since you can change the language on the xoom to your local language or to english
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The chipset in the Xoom is for CDMA.
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R U sure? iFixit state Qualcomm MDM6600 in their teardown, and that is http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releas...nces-commercial-availability-gobi3000-modules As said there, "The Gobi 3000 reference design is based on Qualcomm’s MDM6200™ and MDM6600™ chipsets, both of which can provide support for HSPA+ data rates of up to 14.4 Mbps. The MDM6600 also supports CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B". So CDMA is an additional capability? Am I wrong?
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R U sure? iFixit state Qualcomm MDM6600 in their teardown, and that is http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releas...nces-commercial-availability-gobi3000-modules As said there, "The Gobi 3000 reference design is based on Qualcomm’s MDM6200™ and MDM6600™ chipsets, both of which can provide support for HSPA+ data rates of up to 14.4 Mbps. The MDM6600 also supports CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B". So CDMA is an additional capability? Am I wrong?
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Yes you are right. That is the chipset. But only the CDMA is enabled. Just because the chipset is theoretically capable when it leaves Qualcomm, doesn't mean it isn't made to be used for CDMA when its put into the Xoom. It was covered in several of the threads when the iFixIt teardown came out.
Even then, there isn't even a place to put a non-LTE SIM card into the device, how would it work? From my understanding, LTE SIM cards are different (and different sized), and it wouldn't necessarily be compatible with normal SIM cards.
The amount of hackery required to get this to potentially work on a GSM carrier isn't worth it. Its much easier to just get the GSM version coming out in Europe if you're gonna use in Europe. Because of the fact that there is GSM versions of the Xoom, I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually saw it on GSM carriers here, but that depends on the deal Verizon has with Motorola.
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Even then, there isn't even a place to put a non-LTE SIM card into the device, how would it work? From my understanding, LTE SIM cards are different (and different sized), and it wouldn't necessarily be compatible with normal SIM cards.
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I didn't hold it up to compare, but the plastic insert for where the LTE SIM card will go looks very similar in size to my SIM card I had when I was on AT&T. I know they're starting to move toward MicroSIM cards, but this LTE slot looked the same (if not very close) size as regular SIM cards.
I doubt sticking a SIM Card in there would allow it to work on a GSM network though. Perhaps the LTE SIM is thicker/thinner than a regular one. I have no idea.
In principle, yes. The LTE chipset is supposed to come in mini PCI-e format and go into the Xoom at that currently blank slot. IF this was a PC, you could get a PCI-e HSPA card, install appropriate driver and maybe some tweaks here and there to make it running. The problem is, there is not a PC. No one knows what network cards would work with the Xoom, and there is probably no driver that works with it. Heck, that PCI-e slot is probably not even working right now, considering the fact that even something as simple as the SD card slot is not working.
I am almost in a similar situation. I got a Xoom and then found out I would be traveling shortly after. I just thought to return but then by a stroke of seriously bad luck i dropped it and made two small very superficial scratches/dents to the aluminum shell. Now best buy will not accept it.
The country I am going to has at least two CDMA carriers but of course I am locked to Verizon. I am willing to go for either a "legal" unlock from Verizon (if that is even possible, I dont expect much mercy from them), or even better - the miracle of being able to use the deactivated GSM functionality of the Xoom.
If anyone has any advice on either of these possibilities, please let me know.
Has there been any investigation or progress into whether the VZW version could eventually be hacked to work with voice plans somehow? The hardware may just be 100% data only, but not sure and we do know the others are phones also.
Verizon nor ATT will ever come out with a tab that will allow voice and data. If you a voice capable tab you are better off getting an unlocked import and either use ATT SIM or Straight Talk SIM. I know a lot people want the Verizon tab for the LTE speeds but as they say you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Verizon nor ATT will ever come out with a tab that will allow voice and data. If you a voice capable tab you are better off getting an unlocked import and either use ATT SIM or Straight Talk SIM. I know a lot people want the Verizon tab for the LTE speeds but as they say you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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I understand all this. My larger question is whether it's been verified Samsung made this a 100% impossibility with how the actual hardware was actually implemented or if there is a chance a software hack of some sorts could enable voice plan provisioning and use. With ESN and IMEI based authentication of CDMA stuffs of the older tabs I figure even if it was possible VZW could have blocked it. With a SIM though I am not sure they could if Samsung left a door open to do it.
I would really like to see Samsung or other OEM just make LTE open devices available for us at full price as is supposed to be possible under the spectrum rules. I'm guessing they make agreements with VZW not to do this in order to get officially supported and marketed devices sold by them, but I am a customer that would like OEMs to try and get us out of the contract cycles so they don't have to rely on the carriers for sales so much. Not to mention people with grandfathered unlimited plans are quickly going to be VERY interested in such things as they try and force us into limited plans to get subsidies since throttling on 700mhz C-Block is going to be harder to justify in general than it has been on other spectrum.
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi 4G (with Verizon) 32GO.
The question I can't find answer for nowhere is this:
The 4G is set with Verizon, witch is in United States. I live in Canada. Is it possible to use that tablet only on wi-fi from Canada without an account to verizon?
If so, can I later decide to change from verizon to choose a local provider to use 4g?
Thanks a lot!
Gen
Yes the Verizon tab can be used without an active SIM card as basically just a wifi device, HOWEVER there's a couple of issues you should be aware of.
1. If you're looking to apply custom ROMs to the device from this community know that of the various versions of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 the Verizon model is the least supported.
2. Most importantly be sure that the broadband network you're intending to use the device on ultimately is actually compatible with the device. I don't believe the Verizon tab is intended to be a full fledged international device but I could be wrong. It's possible that Verizon is the only network that the Verizon version of the GT 10.1 is compatible with.
If it were me and the decision to go with a mobile broadband plan is several months away I'd go with a used wifi only GT 10.1 for now and then put it up for sale again later to buy a tablet with mobile data plan on contract or used.
Thanks for your respond!
I think I'll do as suggested, but only a wi-fi one for now... And see later!
Now.... you are talking about ROMs... I'll have to learn about that! I don't know what it means!
Gen
I'm in debate right now if I should just get the Note 3 from my carrier, T-Mobile, or should I get the international LTE model N9005. The N9005 will support the '4G' but not lte as it doesn't have the US bands. But I'm okay with that. One thing I really want is wireless charging (qi). As I currently have the GN2 from T-Mobile they disabled the hardware for wireless charging so it renders it a pain to even try and get it working. If the T-Mobile model has the qi in tact then I'd just go with that and have lte functionality. But if it doesn't have qi I'd just get the international model.
What are your speculations and opinions? I haven't been able to find anything on the other models aside from the N9000/2/5 which are 3G (octa-core), dual sim, and LTE models, respectively. But carrier specific models have no details. All of which supposedly will support qi. But will the US variants and other carrier specific models cripple us once again by removing features shown (not promised) on the international models?
I'm not sure it's been confirmed either way that the international N3 will not support AT&T's LTE bands. See here for more information...
You better get it from T-mobile, as it will use a different radio than the International version that works on ATT
I too I'm waiting for the T-mobile version release
Well I know the LTE of the international model is not supported in the US as the on lot compatible band is 2100 which 1700 or 1900 is missing for T-Mobile and AT&T, respectively so I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile if it does come with the qi in tact. Negri has the T-Mobile version for pre-order up for $689.50.
I don't see why wireless charging is so important since you won't have that while driving and charging or at work out in the open where someone could just walk by and take the phone it would only be a convince at home.
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If you've ever used a bb bold you'd understand the convenience of just putting the phone in the charging pod. And it can be done in the dark! And how do you figure I don't have wireless charging in the car? Or at work? Just because you may not find it useful doesn't mean anyone else doesn't. Look at the forums and you'll see how popular the topic is.
By the way, bit the bullet and pre-ordered!
I am starting an Alcholics Anonymous type club for those who are trying to hold out for an unlocked special edition of the note 3, maybe a note 3 active or a flexible screen note 3, or maybe even a Google Edition Note 3. Must. Not. Click. Order.