Did anyone else notice that ES file explorer can do root stuff with the systemless root method ? it doesn't see /data nor can mount /system in rw automatically.
It works perfectly fine with system-based root approach.
Other apps like kernel adiutor or busy box work fine with systemless root method.
Yeah ES not been updated to work with systemless root.
Must use hard coded path to su.
I use FX instead with the root add on.
Has ES been updated to work with systemless root?
Try again after SuperSU 2.62
Nope, still not working with SuperSU v2.62-3-20151211162651
I used to like ES file explorer but I´ve changed my mind. The developers destroyed the App by adding this nasty cleaner and some other nasty stuff. I mean, I can understand that they want to earn some cash now but the method is not something I like. I bought the pro version though which at least doesn´t force you to swipe away this awful cleaner. I dislike this kind of business.
This explorer requires the traditional root in order to work.
Works fine for me. I used it to delete the su/xbin_bind folder
Gorgtech said:
I used to like ES file explorer but I´ve changed my mind. The developers destroyed the App by adding this nasty cleaner and some other nasty stuff. I mean, I can understand that they want to earn some cash now but the method is not something I like. I bought the pro version though which at least doesn´t force you to swipe away this awful cleaner. I dislike this kind of business.
This explorer requires the traditional root in order to work.
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Totally agree with you on the cleaner thing. First time I saw it I thought I had downloaded the wrong app. Backed out and then realized it was ES. Really sucks cause if you aren't paying attention you could possibly delete old pictures/videos/files you still want that the stupid cleaner considers junk just because they are old.
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Totally agree with you on the cleaner thing. First time I saw it I thought I had downloaded the wrong app. Backed out and then realized it was ES. Really sucks cause if you aren't paying attention you could possibly delete old pictures/videos/files you still want that the stupid cleaner considers junk just because they are old.
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I totally supports Estrongs desire to monetize their ubiquitous product. But this worries me even more than the added bloat (web browser, recommended apps). Half-assed features like a cleaner that deletes important files suggests that in their push to monetize, Estrongs isn't maintaining the same level of quality. And adding a pro version so people can bypass their recent "enhancements" doesn't suggest a much respect for their existing user base. People are going to stop using their product if they continue like this. At least they haven't added notifications (yet).
Personally, I just switched to Solid Explorer and I really like it.
That´s the point, they´ve destroyed a fully working App in order to sell you one without the extras. I sure hope that the pro version will remain somehow usable. Well, to be honest, even the pro version is not 100% clean. It still has the cleaner implemented ( but at least not on the first page ) and some recommended bloatware.
Agree, been using ES Explorer for a long time but this Cleaner bloat sux's!
Any good and *free* alternatives? Open source even better ...
Heinous said:
Works fine for me. I used it to delete the su/xbin_bind folder
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I also did that. After a while, it failed to recognize root permissions
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FWIW, Solid Explorer is on sale for 99c. Solid alternative.
SomeGuy4 said:
I also did that. After a while, it failed to recognize root permissions
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It's as simple as going into TWRP and mounting the system R/W.
You then need to open the terminal in the following places:
/system/bin and execute " touch su "
/system/xbin and execute " touch su "
This helped me
That works but defeats the purpose of having a systemless root.
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FWIW, Solid Explorer is on sale for 99c. Solid alternative.
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Thanks it works fine with the system-less root. TY!
This is not the only root file manager app that can't write to system with root permissions. File Manager Pro and HD also cannot.
Is there a list somewhere of which do and don't work? Is this only a problem with the way we chose to root?
Thanks
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I also did that. After a while, it failed to recognize root permissions
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The xbin_bind is what allows it to work w/systemless. However I think that "feature" breaks Android Pay(?)
ntegra said:
The xbin_bind is what allows it to work w/systemless. However I think that "feature" breaks Android Pay(?)
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I believe you are correct.
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How can I activate God Mode on a rooted XOOM? I want to nullify some stock apps, but Root Explorer is saying they are read only.
Thanks.
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LOL. I didn't know we were playing Quake.
What do you mean by god mode. You already have root. That's all you should need.
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lol.
That might not be the correct term, and it may require a custom rom. Not sure, but on Project Elite for the OG Droid, there's an option under General>System called God Mode that gives you full access to files on the system. That may just be what Actngrezy calls it in PE.
I just want to rename some of the apps that were included on the XOOM. Specifically, I want to nullify the Quick Office apk so I can install the NI Adam version. When I navigate to the apk in Root Explorer, I get an error telling me it's a read only file. I never got that error with the Droid. I can change whatever I want to on that device.
Did you click on mount r/w in root explorer
arrtoodeetoo said:
How can I activate God Mode on a rooted XOOM? I want to nullify some stock apps, but Root Explorer is saying they are read only.
Thanks.
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Did you install superuser? if so make sure you have allowed root explorer in it. Then on the top left hand side in root explorer hit mount r/w
arrtoodeetoo said:
lol.
That might not be the correct term, and it may require a custom rom. Not sure, but on Project Elite for the OG Droid, there's an option under General>System called God Mode that gives you full access to files on the system. That may just be what Actngrezy calls it in PE.
I just want to rename some of the apps that were included on the XOOM. Specifically, I want to nullify the Quick Office apk so I can install the NI Adam version. When I navigate to the apk in Root Explorer, I get an error telling me it's a read only file. I never got that error with the Droid. I can change whatever I want to on that device.
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Im just visiting the forum to steal a few files to compare with atrix , how ever if i read your cleverly phrased question correctly and you are trying to remove/freeze some apps that came on the Xoom and you are getting read only error its because to modify anything in the /system dir you need to
1. back up anything you might remove via adb pull or via adb shell cp
2. adb shell
3.su
4. mount -o rw,remount (what ever the path to zoom block is i dont know cause i dont have one ) exp /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /system
from there you can remove what ever you want out of system dir
5. exp. rm /system/app/quickoffice.apk
Thanks! I never noticed that button before. lol.
you can also get a system uninstaller in the market that will do it for you just the same, I usually use that in case there is more included than just the apk file
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Did you click on mount r/w in root explorer
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I thought about the uninstaller thing, but I'd rather not uninstall anything that came on the XOOM just in case. I just add an extra .null at the end of the apk (and associated files, which are easy to find) in case I need to restore them.
For instance, the NI Quick Office app force closes when you just breathe on the freaking tablet, so I had to restore the default one.
After having the phone for 3 weeks, today i finally temp-rooted.
Only because I needed to edit the root folder so that I can use ad-hoc internet, which stock android phones can't find. Well now it works and it feels pretty cool!
what else can I do now while I am temp rooted?
thunder9111 said:
After having the phone for 3 weeks, today i finally temp-rooted.
Only because I needed to edit the root folder so that I can use ad-hoc internet, which stock android phones can't find. Well now it works and it feels pretty cool!
what else can I do now while I am temp rooted?
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Get rid of the annoying stock apps that come with the phone
i was trying to do that just now, but when i was in the application manager the uninstall button was still darkened out..
am I supposed to go to the superuser app and give it access first?
will uninstalling those stock apps have any effects? i still plan on continuing to use the stock htc sense rom as i see nth wrong with it.
No point because you're temp rooted, after a reboot.. they come back.
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true. found that out the hard way.
sucks, even the wpa_supplicant that i editted will go back to the original which means i will lose adhoc again.
now everytime i want to use adhoc i will have to temp-root, then use root explorer to edit the wpa_supplicant.
since i used visionary to temproot and it has the permroot option, would doing so allow me to save all my file settings after root explorer?
would the permroot still be revertable using the unroot option?
all this for ad-hoc internet
thunder9111 said:
true. found that out the hard way.
sucks, even the wpa_supplicant that i editted will go back to the original which means i will lose adhoc again.
now everytime i want to use adhoc i will have to temp-root, then use root explorer to edit the wpa_supplicant.
since i used visionary to temproot and it has the permroot option, would doing so allow me to save all my file settings after root explorer?
would the permroot still be revertable using the unroot option?
all this for ad-hoc internet
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If you're going to 'perm-root' then don't use visionary. Use the Gfree method, it's the most current and safest. I don't have the link to the G2 wiki right now but Google should find it for you. Rooting with Gfree is at the bottom section of the wiki.
I would use this method as it seems to be the quickess and user friendly one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
noodles2224 said:
No point because you're temp rooted, after a reboot.. they come back.
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I'm curious, even if you're only temp rooted, wouldn't remounting /system rw make any changes permanent?
noodles2224 said:
No point because you're temp rooted, after a reboot.. they come back.
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Oh thats there was a way to disable them though so they wouldn't show up or even get ran. If memory serves you would go into terminal emulator, cd to the system/app directory, and then you would pm disable the apks that you didnt want
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I'm curious, even if you're only temp rooted, wouldn't remounting /system rw make any changes permanent?
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No. It's been a while since I've even thought about NAND locks and stuff but basically the system is protected from permanent changes unless the proper key is used. When you reboot your phone the system is compared to an image of it stored on the NAND and any changes are overwritten - sort of like a system restore on windows except it's automatic at every boot. That's how I understand it working from my memory.
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When you reboot your phone the system is compared to an image of it stored on the NAND and any changes are overwritten - sort of like a system restore on windows except it's automatic at every boot.
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So do I correctly assume that s-off removes the locks?
Edit: Never mind the question, some searching paid off. Answer is yes.
This solution works for anyone that doesn't want to root their device.
however required a unlocked boot loader.
you can use TWRP file manager to replace below files. (hence not needing root).
(or someone can kindly create a flashable)
I have recomplied the power.shamu.so (replacing the missing codes from https://android.googlesource.com/device/moto/shamu/+/2084f7d0cf50baf394759d175bc28ad80cf7cace^!/ )
What this does is also re-enable the double-tap to wake.
to use,
backup a copy of
/system/lib/hw/power.shamu.so
then copy the attached power.shamu.so to /system/lib/hw/
change the permission of power.shamu.so to 0644
then boot your device. volia... you now have double tap to wake again.
Note. this has been tested with my own nexus 6.
Thanks. I think this would be better in themes n apps section though.
Thank you Sir! I'm going to remove the app and try this on Elix-R!
EDIT: Works great! Thank you again.
Which permissions are 0644?
smalltownbird said:
Which permissions are 0644?
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User: R,W
Group: R
Other: R
Thanks that's what I thought I just wanted to make sure
Can I just flash the zip file that's in the beginning of the thread? Also would I need to re-install after wiping and flashing different roms or will it stay?
Figured it out.
No Worky on Slim
mr_clean5953 said:
No Worky on Slim
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Working fine here. You probably never set permissions
suzook said:
Working fine here. You probably never set permissions
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I did. And triple checked it
mr_clean5953 said:
I did. And triple checked it
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Strange working here on beta 8
suzook said:
Strange working here on beta 8
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I redownloaded and reloaded the file and its working fine now
Awesome
.....working like charm....
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Working great here!!! Thank you.
Stock ROM...
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nice, although no root required makes no sense considering you have to copy and paste this to /system that requires root... or am i missing something?
BeansTown106 said:
nice, although no root required makes no sense considering you have to copy and paste this to /system that requires root... or am i missing something?
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You can do it from recovery which has system access even if the ROM doesnt have root privileges.
What I am wondering though is if you can use fastboot to simply boot recovery without flashing it, and would you be able to do that command without unlocking the bootloader? Or does booting a custom system file require it to be unlocked?
BeansTown106 said:
nice, although no root required makes no sense considering you have to copy and paste this to /system that requires root... or am i missing something?
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Idea is just like rooting.
You need to some how replace the power.shamu.so once, and thats it.
Some people dont like phones to be rooted, as some software are really particular with root such as 'good for ent' or banking app. Idea is so that these people can still have doible tap to wake.
Hence you require a unlocked boot loader.
Eg, i guess i can also repack the file to a flashable zip, then user can just flash from recovery.
Note, i found that your tap needs to be quite consistant (can't be too fast or slow. There is a specific window)
what about pocket detection? (proximity sensor)
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what about pocket detection? (proximity sensor)
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Don't think there is such feature. One you Mentioned is ambient display which I choose to switch off. As I believe it might detect lots of false pick up.
Awesome! Works great!
Stock rom
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I recently re-rooted my phone to install 6.0.1, and installed SuperSu 2.62 thinking it was systemless root. Android pay didn't work, so I re-downloaded Xposed. After reading that you need to delete the /su/xbin_bind folder to get Android Pay to work, I uninstalled Xposed (flashing the uninstaller) as well as Emoji Switcher (forums say it modifies /system) and set out to try it.
However, when I try to delete /su/xbin_bind, it says failed/cannot be deleted. I've tried with both ES File Explorer and Root Explorer. According to SuperSu, the only things left with root permissions are Nova Prime Launcher, Tasker, and AdAway. Any reason I can't seem to delete this file when everyone else can? I also tried temporary disabling SuperSu, but no go.
Edit: I am a moron. I didn't have root permissions for ES File Explorer, so I couldn't delete the folder. Added that and deleted no problem. Leaving my idiocy here in case anyone else runs into this problem.
So to clarify, if we want android pay to work we can't use xposed?
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Wehdota said:
I recently re-rooted my phone to install 6.0.1, and installed SuperSu 2.62 thinking it was systemless root. Android pay didn't work, so I re-downloaded Xposed. After reading that you need to delete the /su/xbin_bind folder to get Android Pay to work, I uninstalled Xposed (flashing the uninstaller) as well as Emoji Switcher (forums say it modifies /system) and set out to try it.
However, when I try to delete /su/xbin_bind, it says failed/cannot be deleted. I've tried with both ES File Explorer and Root Explorer. According to SuperSu, the only things left with root permissions are Nova Prime Launcher, Tasker, and AdAway. Any reason I can't seem to delete this file when everyone else can? I also tried temporary disabling SuperSu, but no go.
Edit: I am a moron. I didn't have root permissions for ES File Explorer, so I couldn't delete the folder. Added that and deleted no problem. Leaving my idiocy here in case anyone else runs into this problem.
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sweet, i flashed 2.62 thinking it was systemless root too and android pay stopped working. came here looking for a solution, deleted /su/xbin_bind and android pay is working again!
Giving Root Access?
How do you go about giving ES File Explorer root access? Usually that is an automatic question asked.
how important or whats the purpose of /su/xbin_bind ??
if its included on the SU install, and we delete it... im trying to gauge if we are damaging something since it was meant to be there....
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how important or whats the purpose of /su/xbin_bind ??
if its included on the SU install, and we delete it... im trying to gauge if we are damaging something since it was meant to be there....
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I'd like to know this as well
leamdav said:
How do you go about giving ES File Explorer root access? Usually that is an automatic question asked.
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Some apps don't ask for root by default, and only do so when you tell them you want to enable the features that require root. ES File Explorer is one such app, and to enable root features you have to open the side menu and toggle the option.
IMO this is the way all apps should be, as I don't always need the root features of every app, as it adds a security risk. I like how BoldBeast Call Recorder does this for example.
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I'd like to know this as well
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chaco81 said:
how important or whats the purpose of /su/xbin_bind ??
if its included on the SU install, and we delete it... im trying to gauge if we are damaging something since it was meant to be there....
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It's a compatability mode that was automatically enabled for a while in older SuperSu.zips to allow developer's apps to work until they update their app to work with systemless root. It is now disabled by defult in newer SuperSu.zips, with the user having to explicitly enable it for its use.
Some apps that requires this to work (becuse they haven't updated their app to work with systemless yet) include:
- Secure Settings
- Es File Explorer.
Etc.Etc.
Hope this helps clarify things for you
Although HTC 10 comes with less bloat than most other phones, it still has apps preinstalled that some of us probably will never use.
Some of those apps may even run at boot and consume RAM and CPU. For this purpose I made a small script that will remove those apps instead of doing it manually via ADB Shell.
This script is for Mac/OS X/macOS. I think it can also run on Linux but I'm not sure because I don't use Linux much.
For Windows, it can easily be ported to command line. If someone is willing to do it, PM me the script and I will add it to the repo.
Apps that the script removes:
Boost+
Google+ Sense Add-on
Instagram (placeholder app)
LinkedIn Sense Add-on
HTC Mail
Facebook (placeholder app)
Messenger (placeholder app)
News Republic
TouchPal Keyboard (SEE NOTE!)
Twitter Sense Add-on
Voice Recorder
Zoe
HTC Help
IceView Case support
HTC Speak
Transfer my stuff
Google Hangouts
Google Play Music
Basically what the script does:
Mount /system as RW
Delete above apps .apk and containing folder
Reboot after done.
DISCLAIMER: Although I don't see what could possibly go wrong by flashing this script, be sure to back up your ROM before flashing as I don't take any responsibility caused by this script. I have tested it on my HTC 10 and I didn't have any issues.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you plan to remove TouchPal keyboard, make sure that you have an alternative already installed before or you won't be able to type any text. In case you're reading this after you already screwed up, download your prefered keyboards .apk file and install it via ADB. The script will stop before removing the keyboard and ask if you are sure you want to remove it.
How to:
Enable USB debugging
Connect your phone
Execute "adb shell" and then "su" and grant superuser access to adb shell
(OS X) make script executable (chmod a+x)
Run script
I am open for suggestions and merge requests, happy debloating
The script can be found HERE.
Hoping someone works on the windows version cause i suppose totally run this.
Thanks for sharing
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All this can be manually removed simply by hitting uninstall with root access right? Not knocking the script, just asking honestly.
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Just double checking, but I take it that root is required?
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All this can be manually removed simply by hitting uninstall with root access right? Not knocking the script, just asking honestly.
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Ive tried some apps for removal of system apps but it didn't work. And since I play around with ROMs reinstalling and uninstalling app by app takes just to much time.
Milamber said:
Just double checking, but I take it that root is required?
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Yes, you need root because you need to remove apps from the read-only /system partition.
Got it. Thanks for the reply. I haven't had an htc phone since gingerbread and I mostly had Samsungs on Verizon so I never bothered rooting. I didn't get my 10 yet but I hope to root right away and get rid of things I think are bloat. Probably gonna need this script I guess we'll see. Thanks again!
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very nice, quick and easy one step to uninstall the stuff that is safe to, thank you!
razrlover said:
Hoping someone works on the windows version cause i suppose totally run this.
Thanks for sharing
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if you like i can take a crack at it, simple batch script should work almost out of the box as long as you have adb set up
ibrokemypie said:
if you like i can take a crack at it, simple batch script should work almost out of the box as long as you have adb set up
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will you make it for windows please?
@gillim74 @razrlover @dj_chapz
I have made a working copy for windows and added it to a fork of the gitlab repo here: https://github.com/ibrokemypie/htc_10_pme_debloat/blob/master/htc10_bloat_remover.cmd
I will maintain this as long as @dj_chapz does and will pull in any changes he makes.
I usually make changes after a firmware update if I notice any new bloat, but there shouldnt be much changes.
Also, this list is by personal preference, because some apps that I choose to leave others may want to remove or vice versa, so everyone should take the script as a base and edit to their likeing.
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@gillim74 @razrlover @dj_chapz
I have made a working copy for windows and added it to a fork of the gitlab repo here: https://github.com/ibrokemypie/htc_10_pme_debloat/blob/master/htc10_bloat_remover.cmd
I will maintain this as long as @dj_chapz does and will pull in any changes he makes.
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After running this (windows), and going into Settings > Apps, I get a Loading screen that never ends. Same thing in Titanium backup when it tries to build a db of the installed apps.
typhoonikan said:
After running this (windows), and going into Settings > Apps, I get a Loading screen that never ends. Same thing in Titanium backup when it tries to build a db of the installed apps.
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which update are you running? still marshmallow or have you gone to nougat? custom rom? and have you tried restarting and perhaps clearing cache/dalvik?
Device or resource busy
Read-only file system
Read-only file system
tried it but all the apps had the above thing ^
nougat,
oh it did work o.o saw the apps for a second, thank you! could i just add the sense apks into the script and remove it the same way?
Dare I ask... why not make a shell script you run from the phone? I'll give it a shot. I wrote one that creates directories so I can use FolderSync to restore settings from the cloud.
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Device or resource busy
Read-only file system
Read-only file system
tried it but all the apps had the above thing ^
nougat,
oh it did work o.o saw the apps for a second, thank you! could i just add the sense apks into the script and remove it the same way?
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Hi, did you use the Windows version? Thanks
spacecowboy618 said:
Hi, did you use the Windows version? Thanks
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windows 10 <--
used the one he has listed to download in the original OP and works