Galaxy S3 Neo has a ridiculous stock 2100 mAh battery which offers a very poor duration. That's the reason I need an extended one. I have tried lots of extended batteries of different brands such as DSK, Anker, and one that I don't know its brand, I bought it from http://www.tucargadorsolar.com/. All of it have offered me a very poor duration. They are supposed to have twice the capacity of stock battery but here are the results that I got with all of them:
Original 2100 mAh battery, 100% charged, holds for 5:30 hours on continuous video playing until it reaches 5%.
Different extended batteries (4200 to 4400 mAh depending on the brand), 100% charged, hold for 6:45 hours on continuous video playing and in exactly the same conditions of the other test (screen brightness, bluetooth, wifi...).
I have repeated the test lots of times and always get the same results. If an extended battery of 4200 - 4400 mAh has a double capacity and original battery holds for 5:30 hours, why the extended one does not hold for the double, 11 hours?
I suppose that I have been testing batteries coming from not reliable brands.
I ordered a battery from Mugen Power 3 months ago, because it is supposed to be a reliable brand. But 3 months later still know nothing about the order I've made, and now they don't answer my e-mails.
What can I do? Is there another brand which is reliable enough to offer me a good duration?
I am really annoyed with this, I have lost very much money and time and all batteries I buy are in a very bad condition.
Well you could just money to buy another phone Anyway, if you're on stock, I can't say much, but using a custom kernel with governors etc, it would be really a great option as with the default battery, it last way more longer.
It's really strange, really. Have you calibrated the batteries right by reading the manuals? Are you sure about the capacities (Have you tested them with a multimeter)? Have in mind (if you haven't already known that) that I9300 batteries are exactly the same, because it's wide known and there are for sure reliable sources. A phone like Neo, is easily targeted with fake things. Last, you should buy from Amazon and read the reviews. Oh, did you try to contact with the companies?
Again, it's very strange....
S3 neo's battery functionality is a joke...
I try a lots of extended batterys baut only one is in right...Anker 7200mah(buy from amazon)
But s3 neo have a "bug"...completly charge of ectended batery is possible just if you replace battery after first charge to "100%" and put on charge again...aproximately after replace cell, phone was display the true charging %...
After 2x 3x replaces battery was true 100% charged...
Discharging is same way....after first 1-2% level replace the batt....it shows aprox. 70% after....
Replace "trick" is only one way to use extended batterys capacity.
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I've just bought a 3600mAh battery by Sino Cameron from Ebay, and followed the manufacturers recommendation to fully charge it before using it in my IIi.
I have also cycled it 5 or 6 times now and i still cannot get it to last any longer than my OEM 1300mAh battery. It doesn't take too long to charge up and the OEM battery is lasting a bit longer than the new one even though i've had it over a year. I've tried charging it through my alpine and in the spare slot on the OEM charger but it still makes no difference.
Does the battery need cycling a few more times or does it need more use?
Do i need a different charger?
Could it be a faulty battery?
Is it my IIi that's the issue?
I was expecting the battery to be effective from day one, last at least twice as long +, and be a significant improvement on my old OEM battery. I have read a couple of reviews about their 2400mAh battery lasting almost twice as long as the OEM battery, and i was thinking my new battery would be even better than that but i have to say i feel pretty well dissapointed.
Any suggestions before i send this battery back to the retailer would be appreciated, and has anyone else had a similar issue?
Sorted!!
Great News.....
I got the retailer to exchange the battery for another one and BINGO!! This one is working as intended and is lasting about 2.5 times longer than the standard 1300mAh battery.
So it was a faulty battery after all and thats a big relief. I have to sing the batterys praises as it truly does do what it says on the tin and i cannot believe how long i can leave my IIi on in standby phone mode, and the battery indicator hardly moves in hours!!
Excellent battery, highly recommended
Hello everyone. First of all, let me congratulate all of you who have made this incredible site. I've been reading your threads for 3 weeks and finally i wanted to make my first post. I didnt wanted to be a stupid post so thats why it took me 3 weeks to make it.
I got my first Hermes 5 days ago (yes i searched for info about hermes 2 weeks before i got it) and it is everything i always wanted/needed.
I live in a city called Temuco in Chile (A southamerican country ) and this toys are very expensive even if its a 2 or 3 years old toy like hermes).
When i received my Hermes i was ready to flash roms and got everything to do it, thanks to you guys),
I'm very pleased with some of your roms and now im using [OPTIMIZED Manilla2d][20755 09/29](AlmostNak3d)(V8) by joshkoss.
The only subject that worried me was.................... Battery life, so i did some searching and thats my first post about. Hope you guys find it usefull. I know there are some battery related posts around but wanted to make some conclusions about the subject.
Here we go.
I've been searching and reading different articles about optimizing a li-ion and li-ion polymer battery, as they basically behave the same way.
In recent days i've been thinking a way to keep my battery life longer.
What i first thought, and without any knowledge, is what i've heard all my life: "A fast charged" battery lasts shorter than a "slow charge" battery.
In some battery chargers there are two ways to charge batteries. Slow and fast. And i always feel that slow charge was better than fast, so i thought.
My Hermes charger is 5V 1A.
If i charge my hermes through USB (Which i think has less than 1A) my battery should be "better charged" and the charge should last longer.
I never quite tested this but as a normal "battery user" it sounded more logical to me.
So i searched on google if there was any information about li-ion batteries and its characteristics.
I went to www.batteryuniversity.com and what i read astonished me.
Battery Conclusions
1.- Lithium batteries are completely different than older nickel based batteries.
2.- Lithium is a very unstable element and behaves abnormally when overcharging and overdischarging.
3.- According to batteryuniversity, "Overcharging makes the cell causes plating of metallic lithium on the anode; the cathode material becomes an oxidizing agent, loses stability and releases oxygen. Overcharging causes the cell to heat up. If left unattended, the cell could vent with flame."
4.- Over-discharging is as dangerous as overcharging. According to batteryuniversity, if discharged, "Copper shunts may have formed inside the cells, leading a partial or total electrical short. The cell becomes unstable. Charging such a battery would cause excessive heat and safety could not be assured."
5.- Lithium batteries are usually overcharge and over-discharge protected.
6.- You shouldnt use chargers different than the manufacturer's one.
7.- End of story and End ob battery thoughts.
I (we) just have to live with that.
The Li-on cells for my Makita tools are charged on a computer controlled charger. It reads temp and level of charge and charges accordingly. Manufacturers estimate 3000 charges before the battery is dead, and this after fast heavy discharge that can make a battery too hot to hold and fast charge that takes 22 minute on a 3ah batttery from fully flat to fully charged.
The people who use Li-on at the edge of their accepted use, the radio control flyers, use computer controlled chargers that read the same parameters and more. Many of their chargers read individual cells and balance the charge. Again, after use, the batteries can be too hot to hold.
In a phone or a laptop we use a wall wart the same as any old nicad. I dont know if any clever stuff goes on inside the laptop or phone to regulate charge level according to battery condition but I don't think so. We get about a year out of a laptop that is trickle charged. I'm on almost 2 years for my Tytn with no discernable drop in life but I think I've been lucky, it seems to be about a year for many people. So that's 365 charges, approx.
My guess is that it's charger technology rather than battery technology that limits our battery life.
The Hermes does have a battery sensor. It can be screwed up though when you go below a certain level (<10%), hence people who have trouble recharging a TOTALLY flat battery. The Hermes sensor doesn't detect a battery giving a red LED.
I don't know anything about battery...
I'm currently have a problem with a battery or power-related. My X01HT have just 1 day life in use. I was try it with different second-hand battery, but it likes first condition when only life in 1 day. Hmm.. may be which is the wrong? The battery or the phone?
I have 2 set of X01HT, next time I will try to exchange the battery from both of it. I want to test their battery life to compare and make conclusion about which is the wrong between the battery or the phone.
My tested phone have radio version 1.14.01.10 and have unlocked with NextGenServer. I am using the newest Pays ROM Full. IPL: 1.04. SSPL: 2.60 (Olipro). I have experienced using Pays ROM in twice, first which already sold and the second is this case. Both of the have the same radio version. I think the first one is okay about the life stability, but this one have a problem. May be ROM have influenced the battery life? Or may be IPL/SSPL have caused instability too?
Sorry guys, about poor in English. May be I need to make a thread to share my problem with you.
Thanks.
Hermes are battery hogs but some programs can be power leeches too.
If the radio rom isn't good for your area it also can be a power drain as it is constantly scanning for connection.
I tend to find about 2 days is all my battery lasts for with a little bit of use. Depends what you are using....
Cheers...
I have 3 pieces of SoftBank X01HT.
One of them just fine in the life of the battery, so network here is fine too (maybe). But this one is already sold, so I can't test the battery to my another X01HT which have a critical power problem.
Another X01HT so sleepy, the life of the battery just 1 day. I was try to replace the battery with another battery (2ndhand and I don't know the condition actually) but it have no change, just 1 day too, may be less... Now I try the third battery. I'll reported soon about this...
So how about your opinion about critical power in the X01HT? May be there is another factor beside the battery? Beside the program/OS? May be some physically probelm with their board or etc?
Sorry about poor in English.
I can't say much about the X01HT... All Hermes internals should be the same, but they may put extra things in or take things out depending where you buy your Hermes.
So saying, the Hermes, if not all HTC phones, seem to use a large amount of power. If you use apps it will of course discharge faster.
Sometimes it can be as simple as changing the radio rom but this is risky as the radio rom tends to be permanent brick if something goes wrong with the flash.
Maybe an app you have running and don't realise, I had a BT program that did this, had to shut it down or my battery was down to 70%in about an hour or 2.
Cheers...
Im looking for an X1 replacement batter with the charger. I have this same exact thing for my HTC Touch Cruise and believe me it is a godsend. Instead of sitting there for my phone to charge, I have one in the dock charging all the time. So when I run low to dead just swap and in seconds I have new juice.
Link to the htc touch cruise one that i have
http://cgi.ebay.com/1350mAh-Battery...14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
unless your a really power user you probably won't need to charge the battery that often given hercules is powering the x1 i think with heavy use you'd be good charging it probably once every 10-12 hours
What about with WiFi use?
I know on my Wizard the battery goes in about 2 hours with WiFi active even if its just idling with Messenger. Have they actually improved that much over the years? I'm hopeful but also skeptical.
WMVWifiRouter will kill your battery in an hour and a half.
I'd be curious to know if there are any reliable aftermarket batteries. Buying any Sony OEM parts are always ridiculously expensive and many aftermarket batteries don't work well with Sony products.
well based on what i've been reading about the X1 it's supposed to have a nice increase in battery life compared to our current HTC phones. supposedly sony made a special project just for the phone codename Hercules it's supposed to be using a 1800 mah li poly in stead of what we use in our current phones which is li ion supposedly using the li poly is going to give the battery a much needed boost that all ppc's need to go all day or maybe a couple of days given the usage
Li-poly batteries is over 20% higher than that of a classical Li-ion battery and they store more energy than nickel-cadmium (NiCd) and nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries of the same volume.
When compared to the lithium-ion battery, Li-poly has a greater life cycle degradation rate. However, in recent years, manufacturers have been declaring upwards of 500 charge-discharge cycles before the capacity drops to 80% (see Sanyo). Another variant of Li-poly cells, the "thin film rechargeable lithium battery", has been shown to provide more than 10,000 cycles.
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Hi all.
Let's share our experience about batteries, this is more about hardware than software side. Where is better to buy quality replacement batteries and etc...
I'm using two normal capacity 1350 mAh replacement batteries on my HD2 Nexus android. Both of them I bought on ebay quite long time ago and... what can I say, they performing ok, maybe slightly worse that was original one (lost). Recently I bought extended battery on ebay, twice thick and twice heavier than original one with back cover, 2400 mAh. Strange thing, it lasts about the same (sometimes I think even less) as original capacity ones. Peope say do calibration... This is what I'm going to do tonight, but strange, these normal capacity ones have not done any calibrations and last well. The question, why double capacity one does'n last any longer???
I will update you about changes after calibration.
Because of the calibration it just charges it till the normal capacity battery would be full, and but since this is a extended capacity battery it will need to be calibrated so that it knows that it can be charged further.
But, that's my theory. just try it out and see for yourself.
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Tikras said:
Hi all.
Let's share our experience about batteries, this is more about hardware than software side. Where is better to buy quality replacement batteries and etc...
I'm using two normal capacity 1350 mAh replacement batteries on my HD2 Nexus android. Both of them I bought on ebay quite long time ago and... what can I say, they performing ok, maybe slightly worse that was original one (lost). Recently I bought extended battery on ebay, twice thick and twice heavier than original one with back cover, 2400 mAh. Strange thing, it lasts about the same (sometimes I think even less) as original capacity ones. Peope say do calibration... This is what I'm going to do tonight, but strange, these normal capacity ones have not done any calibrations and last well. The question, why double capacity one does'n last any longer???
I will update you about changes after calibration.
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Extended batteries will drain down to 15% then should stay there for a while. And even if the phone shuts down due to drainage all you have to do is remove the battery, put it back in and you're back to around 40%.
I use 2 extended ones from ebay and they last at least 1.5-1.75 longer than the skinny original htc one.
Try to wipe battery statistics in advanced option in CWR Recovery
Bought a spare battery for Desire HD, mainly to have with me when at football as one battery through the day is simply not enough
Question is, if i charge a battery up, how long will that battery keep its charge whilst not in the phone. Has anyone got any examples of timings and performance. Both batteries are official 1200mAh batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_store_batteries
But since all that's not viable in real life or worth it, I store my battery at 100%. Quite a few times I've used my spare battery a week or so after charging it, and it showed 98-99% when I put it in the phone. Of course that's the phone's reported battery percentage which can be erratic and fluctuate a lot, but when I checked the battery voltage it hadn't decreased by much.
I have 2 spare batteries, both older than my active battery and one slightly bloated and not the best to use (the one I got with the phone). Both are OEM 1230 mAh. I last charged them a week back and didn't use them after. These are the voltages measured with a multimeter as of now -
1st spare battery (1 year 10 months old) - 4.18V
2nd spare battery (1 year 2 months old) - 4.2V
As you can see, that's hardly any decrease in the first one and almost nothing in the second one, considering a full charge is 4.2V (4.204V to be exact). I carry them around with me when I'm outside, so they're exposed to some amount of body heat and ambient heat when the weather is hot. Like I said before, I last charged them one after the other a week ago or a little more than that, and they haven't been used since. So you shouldn't see any significant voltage drop unless you don't use the spare battery for a month or more.
Just in case you weren't aware of this, you can check your battery voltage from your phone easily by keying in *#*#4636#*#* in the dialer and choosing 'battery information'.
Battery Issue
antcox HD said:
Bought a spare battery for Desire HD, mainly to have with me when at football as one battery through the day is simply not enough
Question is, if i charge a battery up, how long will that battery keep its charge whilst not in the phone. Has anyone got any examples of timings and performance. Both batteries are official 1200mAh batteries.
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The battery will retain its charge and best way is to flash a custom ROM like TrickDroid(Sense 4.0). I have it and battery is amazing even with heavy usage.