So, I have an ATT Moto X that I can't root, or unlock the bootloader. And that's why I am leaving the device, I loved it, but it's a must for me to be able to tinker with my android phones, ATT's foolishness lost themselves a customer.
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My friend just gave me her droid x. I love everything about the phone. Is there any way that. I can use it with AT&T? Tryin to keep from switching services.
It's impossible to use a Verizon Droid X on AT&T due to the phone being CDMA. If you has the GSM variant the Milestone X, you could use it.
Even without being activated, the Droid X is a great phone to play around with.
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Just noticed that my moto x ( Rogers) was assembled in China, not the USA. As I was able to unlock my bootloader, does thus mean that the China units have the non encrypted bootloader or is Motorola pulling the wool over our eyes.
Just food for thought
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I believe only motomaker devices are assembled in the USA.
I think they were all assembled here in the USA. They just put a China plate on it......
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Assembled only means the parts are put together not manufactured AFAIK. Is yours a motomaker? Or stock AT&T or Verizon?
So if I understand correctly, moto x are assembled in China except motomaker.
What I have read is the moto x was assembled in the US, Motorola has made a huge deal about that fact.
I also assume the firmware is flashed during Assembly, this being said, I would assume the chinese version have a non encrypted bootloader and this is why I was able to unlock my bootloader.
I'm not a developer but the fxz firmware , do they have any files pertaining to the bootloader?
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Pretty sure all Rogers Moto X are assembled in China. I have a flawless sample, no complaints!
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Pretty sure all Rogers Moto X are assembled in China. I have a flawless sample, no complaints!
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Same with mine build quality is probably higher in China than the us due to the fact they do it all the time. The bootloader is my question
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Rogers Moto X bootloader unlock is supported by Motorola and Rogers. It has nothing to do with where the phone was assembled IMHO. Even Sprint and US Cellular Moto X can be bootloader unlocked and so will be T-Mobile Moto X.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
I got a stock AT&T (not motomaker) and it says assembled in USA on it.
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munchy_cool said:
Rogers Moto X bootloader unlock is supported by Motorola and Rogers. It has nothing to do with where the phone was assembled IMHO. Even Sprint and US Cellular Moto X can be bootloader unlocked and so will be T-Mobile Moto X.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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The sprint & US cellular models are CDMA variant of the moto x afraik
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flashallthetime said:
The sprint & US cellular models are CDMA variant of the moto x afraik
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you are correct but my point was that unlocking BL has nothing to do with where the phone was made or assembled. it's upto the carrier.
munchy_cool said:
you are correct but my point was that unlocking BL has nothing to do with where the phone was made or assembled. it's upto the carrier.
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That I understand but it was a idea I throughout there
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Yeah I read that the China units are for the rest of the world... Just for the stock varieties, it seems strange that that includes Canada...
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trueCrusader said:
Yeah I read that the China units are for the rest of the world... Just for the stock varieties, it seems strange that that includes Canada...
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How so? Moto maker isn't available in Canada, so why would we get US assembled devices? We do have the Queen on our money after all.
thedosbox said:
How so? Moto maker isn't available in Canada, so why would we get US assembled devices? We do have the Queen on our money after all.
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Also our money is plastic now
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Have an at&t model says made in USA
Non moto maker model btw
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I have a non-custom VZW black Moto X and it has "DESIGNED & ASSEMBLED IN THE USA" on it.
So I looks as though all american carriers are caring the US assembled model and all other countries are receiving the made in China variant
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Will this work?
It appears to support all the necessary radios/bands.
I would love the droid turbo (camera/screen) vs. the nexus 6.
Would be cool if the droid turbo (bought full retail) could be used on T-Mobile.
Any thoughts/comments?
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Will this work?
It appears to support all the necessary radios/bands.
I would love the droid turbo (camera/screen) vs. the nexus 6.
Would be cool if the droid turbo (bought full retail) could be used on T-Mobile.
Any thoughts/comments?
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I believe the Turbo will be launched for other carriers (T-Mobile/AT&T) as the "Moto X Play", from what I've read. This was based on FCC filings, but I forget where I saw it.
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I believe the Turbo will be launched for other carriers (T-Mobile/AT&T) as the "Moto X Play", from what I've read. This was based on FCC filings, but I forget where I saw it.
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Seems like a better phone than the nexus 6.
I'm going to buy the 6 at launch but feel the 6" screen will be too big for me,.
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I'm curious if the Moto X Play will be like the "pure" edition and will work on Verizon. It seems like the Nexus 6 will support all bands for all carriers, so there is only one SKU for that device in the USA, and a second SKU for international use.
If the Moto X Play is literally a carbon copy of the Droid Turbo but supports the additional bands, I'll buy it from Moto instead of VZW.
Only 6 days and 20 hours left...
Edit: I said pure edition, which is a Moto X thing, but really meant the N6 idea of having all bands on one device. Having the Turbo and Moto X Play is to get around the exclusivity of the Droid name, which is now locked up with Moto and Verizon only.
I think GSM version that visited the FCC might be called the Moto Maxx instead of the Moto X Play
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I think GSM version that visited the FCC might be called the Moto Maxx instead of the Moto X Play
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Thanks! I was hot on the Verizon Droid Turbo but now I will wait to see if Motorola will come out with a Pure Edition model of it! Not sure they will however! Motorola seem to be giving out the high ends to exclusive tied U.S. carriers. Hope I am wrong! Love to buy a U.S. version Moto Maxx or Moto X Play unlocked 5.2" with the specs of the Nexus 6 inside!
I read the post where someone asked about an unlocked Moto Z Force, and I met with the Moto rep at Verizon today who again said that it would be a Verizon exclusive, but I think we might have something with the thought that eventually, there will be a "Force Pure" (for lack of a real term of what it would be called) being sold directly through Moto, like the 2015 Pure was. I have AT&T and want to stay with them AND get a "Force Pure" model that will allow me to easily unlock the bootloader and use one of the many root options already available. I know the regular Z model will get an unlocked version for GSM carriers in September, but Verizon can't truly hold the Force model all to themselves forever..... right?
We also have people like this claiming to sell "unlocked GSM Moto Z Force" phones on eBay, when they probably just mean carrier unlocked, which isn't nearly as hard as bootloader unlocked.
And speaking of not knowing what we're talking about when we mean "unlocked," can we all learn the difference between the developer option to allow the bootloader to be unlocked and the NEXT step required to actually unlock it? With the Moto X Pure, you must start by selecting that option, go on Moto's website, give them your phone's info, and THEN the phone can be bootloader unlocked - the Verizon locked phones will never get that unless devs find the hack around it. If you are confused on any of what I said, then learn how it's done on the Moto X Pure here, which is a whole lot longer than just flipping the switch on the developer option.... Lots of people here seem to think that's how it works, so I'm addressing it here before someone incorrectly says that it is already available - which it isn't and won't be on Verizon....
Unlocked bootloader .....never gonna happen but sim unlocked for GSM? It already has
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Unlocked bootloader .....never gonna happen but sim unlocked for GSM? It already has
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Please read my actual question again before even bringing up SIM unlocking.... what makes you so sure that the upcoming GSM-only model sold directly by Moto won't ever be able to be bootloader unlocked? Or are you just speculating based on the current Verizon offerings?
The Verizon moto z and z force is carrier unlock, free to use on any gsm. I'm using a z force on cricket. And there is no way to unlock bootloader for these phone.
Only the moto z gsm version coming in September can have bootloader unlock.
how to root him the boot loader cannot be unlocked
badreddine noble said:
my phone is Droid Turbo 2 xt 1585 android 6.0.1
how to root him the boot loader cannot be unlocked
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You are out of luck. Bootloader has to be unlocked on this Motorola phone to get permanent root. You should have gotten a Moto X Force, the Kinzie with the free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Instead you bought the crappy Verizon version with the locked down bootloader.
I assume you are not a Verizon customer and therefore do not actually need a Verizon phone?
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You are out of luck. Bootloader has to be unlocked on this Motorola phone to get permanent root. You should have gotten a Moto X Force, the Kinzie with the free bootloader unlock from Motorola. Instead you bought the crappy Verizon version with the locked down bootloader.
I assume you are not a Verizon customer and therefore do not actually need a Verizon phone?
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Ah, but what if it's a Verizon phone that has been subsequently carrier unlocked? (Allowed to work with other carriers) Will the bootloader be able to be unlocked then? I wonder if anyone has tried this.
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Ah, but what if it's a[b[ Verizon phone that has been subsequently carrier unlocked?[/b] (Allowed to work with other carriers) Will the bootloader be able to be unlocked then? I wonder if anyone has tried this.
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You question has a false premise. That Verizon phones are carrier locked...
All Verizon postpaid phones since 2012 - especially the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 and the 2014 Droid Turbo -- are already carrier unlocked. By order of the FCC, for Verizon to acquire more LTE bandwidth they had to agree to that.
No, using a Verizon phone on another carrier doesn't let you unlock the bootloader.
This year Verizon said they were going to start temporarily carrier locking their phones for 90 days, to prevent theft. But that's being appealed since it violates the 2012 FCC agreement. I haven't kept up with the outcome of this 2018 development because I'll never buy a Verizon branded phone for myself. But the DROID TURBO 2 was carrier unlocked from day 1.
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You question has a false premise. That Verizon phones are carrier locked...
All Verizon postpaid phones since 2012 - especially the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 and the 2014 Droid Turbo -- are already carrier unlocked. By order of the FCC, for Verizon to acquire more LTE bandwidth they had to agree to that.
No, using a Verizon phone on another carrier doesn't let you unlock the bootloader.
This year Verizon said they were going to start temporarily carrier locking their phones for 90 days, to prevent theft. But that's being appealed since it violates the 2012 FCC agreement. I haven't kept up with the outcome of this 2018 development because I'll never buy a Verizon branded phone for myself. But the DROID TURBO 2 was carrier unlocked from day 1.
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I was not asking about *ALL* Verizon phones just the Droid Turbo 2. So no false premise.
I'm not your typical XDA user. However, I was under the impression that if I could carrier unlock the phone that that could allow me to also unlock the bootloader (on some phones). You are saying this is not the case with the Droid Turbo 2?
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I was not asking about *ALL* Verizon phones just the Droid Turbo 2. So no false premise.
I'm not your typical XDA user. However, I was under the impression that if I could carrier unlock the phone that that could allow me to also unlock the bootloader (on some phones). You are saying this is not the case with the Droid Turbo 2?
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That is not the case, ever, for Verizon Motorola phones.
The false premise was assuming Verizon postpaid phones are carrier locked. They are not, have not been for 6 years.
Verizon postpaid phones (since 2012) are already carrier unlocked.
Verizon demands the bootloader be locked down on all their phones, even Google Pixel phones. You can't unlock any Verizon bootloaders except through some exploit. For the 2014 Droid Turbo (Quark), Sunshine team found an exploit. For the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) no exploit was ever found.
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