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Hi, just got my note 3 a few days back and I was prompted to update the firmware to 4.4.
Would jsut like to know what I might gain or lose in functionality with regards to flashing/rooting etc. etc.
Also a service name Index Service has been eating mybattery ever since I started syncing dropbox, anyone in the same boat?
Much Appreciated.
Pros:
Some people claim better response, little faster speed, better battery life and gain about 300MB of RAM on clean boot.
Cons:
Change in SD card writing permission, third party programs can't write to SD card unless updated, won't work until then or you fix it manually but need root.
Can't root without tripping Knox
Can't go back to lower firmware
Third party s-view covers no longer work as designed
some other random incompatibilities with some programs, those are to be expected with any firmware update.
That's all I can remember for now.
If you use SD card with non factory installed programs, the new permissions could be a big deal especially if you want to keep your Knox flag =0
Forgot to mention under pro's, better battery life...
Most of the pro's are under the hood upgrades. You will find it is a bit faster and some little problems you experience are fixed.
As I rooted my phone 10 minutes aftr I got home I have no problems with sd card and s-view case as there is a mod for that...
Knox warranty is voided when rooted but then again the phone is fine...
I'm very content with stock version.
Particularly content with the battery life.
Personally ATM I have no problems with my Note 3 running 4.3 at all, I'm rooted with Knox=0 so I can tweak speed, battery life etc. much better than KK can and I learned (at least I should have) long time ago, don't fix it, if it ain't broke, especially that I rely on SD card a lot (would be out of memory already if didn't have card), so yeah I would have to be stupid to upgrade and then trip the Knox to root just to have the phone running as well as it's now. Of course everybody is different and for example if I had my Knox tripped already, I may have been more tempted to upgrade.
Have had zero issues since flashing Kitkat on my Note, Only thing I regret (con to me) is jumping the gun and upgrading to the new boot loader (i was running AOSP for a while) - but now I can live with a non AOSP ROM as the new boot loader is being sorted.
PROS - battery is a lot better, smoother feel of the device in general also.
ShadedCyan said:
Hi, just got my note 3 a few days back and I was prompted to update the firmware to 4.4.
Would jsut like to know what I might gain or lose in functionality with regards to flashing/rooting etc. etc.
Also a service name Index Service has been eating mybattery ever since I started syncing dropbox, anyone in the same boat?
Much Appreciated.
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No real Cons really, I feel that KitKat is alot better than JellyBean and personally, I really prefer the White Status bar icons.
About Index Service, seems it has to do with PDF files on your phone, here are some threads below to help you with fixing it. Good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2480763
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472574
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533303
radicalisto said:
Have had zero issues since flashing Kitkat on my Note, Only thing I regret (con to me) is jumping the gun and upgrading to the new boot loader (i was running AOSP for a while) - but now I can live with a non AOSP ROM as the new boot loader is being sorted.
PROS - battery is a lot better, smoother feel of the device in general also.
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I know exactly what you mean, I felt the same way when i flash MJ6 firmware that brought the new bootloader wayy back then on JB, but eventually, It would be hard to avoid upgrading the bootloader, plus i saw some people complaining of some weird issues like charging and stuff that upgrading bootloader fixed for some reason. Lol. Anyways.. BottomLine: ENJOY your phone.
Depends on what you need.
ShadedCyan said:
Hi, just got my note 3 a few days back and I was prompted to update the firmware to 4.4.
Would jsut like to know what I might gain or lose in functionality with regards to flashing/rooting etc. etc.
Also a service name Index Service has been eating mybattery ever since I started syncing dropbox, anyone in the same boat?
Much Appreciated.
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I am very unhappy with my update, but I kinda had to as I was unfortunate enough to get one of the Note 3s that randomly reset itself. I haven't had that issue since updating, though I haven't been using it for more than the day so it could still decide to spontaneously reset itself, but all of my third party apps that access the SD card have stopped working.
Not a problem if you're rooted, but I'd like to keep my KNOX =0
As an added annoyance the Tap and Pay still doesn't work, I had hoped that the changes in 4.4 would let me use my Note 3 like I did my S3.
You should take a look at Google's KitKat page: http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/
It's very informative.
Remember that it isn't only fast, but it handles memory operations much more efficiently than on 4.3.
Battery life is also much better for me.
I've been running X-Note 10, and it has the ExtSDCard writing capability enabled again.
Running custom kernel, custom recovery and ROM with KNOX at 0x0. NB4.
nicholaschum said:
You should take a look at Google's KitKat page: http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/
It's very informative.
Remember that it isn't only fast, but it handles memory operations much more efficiently than on 4.3.
Battery life is also much better for me.
I've been running X-Note 10, and it has the ExtSDCard writing capability enabled again.
Running custom kernel, custom recovery and ROM with KNOX at 0x0. NB4.
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Doesn't flashing custom kernel or recovery trip Knox? If not, how did you flash these?
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dsm52 said:
Doesn't flashing custom kernel or recovery trip Knox? If not, how did you flash these?
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It only works on one particular variant of note 3 which is the N900W8. Other variants of note 3 will trip knox.
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After reading through these comments I probably would update too but I want to know one thing:
Can I update to KK without updating my bootloader ? (non rooted 4.3 MJ7)
Im asking this, because I read about updating your bootloader won't let you downgrade.
At this point in time it no longer worth it to remain in 4.3. All issues so far have been fixed or can be fixed. And also understand 4.3 is not "perfect". There are bugs in 4.3 as well that are probably fixed in 4.4.
Not to mention most of the custom rom devs don't make 4.3 roms anymore.
It's not worth it to stay in 4.3
Sheeezy said:
After reading through these comments I probably would update too but I want to know one thing:
Can I update to KK without updating my bootloader ? (non rooted 4.3 MJ7)
Im asking this, because I read about updating your bootloader won't let you downgrade.
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The 4.3 bootloader does not have the capability of booting a 4.4 ROM, hence No.
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The 4.3 bootloader does not have the capability of booting a 4.4 ROM, hence No.
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So would you advise me to upgrade to KK or to stay on JB and hope there will be some root method in near future ?
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So would you advise me to upgrade to KK or to stay on JB and hope there will be some root method in near future ?
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My 2 cents.
I dont think it's worth the hassle. The only cosmetic changes are the status bar icons- now all white and the new music lockscreen- fullscreen instead of pulldown widget.
You Lose sd card support for 3rd party apps who haven't been updated for KK. Also breaking some games: San andreas, among others (FCs) and losing features from apps: Boat Browser (Text wrapping).
You gain: Speed boost (modest at best), more available memory (RAM), Potentially better battery life (IMO 4.3 MJ7 just the same as NA6 4.4.2- other words no change in my case, YMMV)
If your not afraid of tripping knox and rooting than I'd say go for it. I don't mean to stifle your enthusiasm, just keepin it real. I will say this though, when I did update and I was unrooted for all of 10 minutes, the phone absolutely flew. Once rooted and everything back up and running the speed boost is minimal, the best word to describe it would be confident. The phone had less stutter and felt more confident (this is really nitpicking though).
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@denski101 Alright, then I'll probably stay at 4.3
I think the performance increase can't be too big, cause it flies even with 4.3 no complaining here.
Basically I dont want to risk tripping knox counter, who knows what will happen in a year with my device.
But I really do want root, but not at the price of voiding my warranty.
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I'll stay at 4.3 for the moment and wait until there's a method to root on 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
Sheeezy said:
@denski101 Alright, then I'll probably stay at 4.3
I think the performance increase can't be too big, cause it flies even with 4.3 no complaining here.
Basically I dont want to risk tripping knox counter, who knows what will happen in a year with my device.
But I really do want root, but not at the price of voiding my warranty.
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I'll stay at 4.3 for the moment and wait until there's a method to root on 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
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Actually. I have no complaints for 4.4. You can re-enable SD card writing for third party apps, NO FC's if you don't do something the system doesn't want you to do (TB/dirty flash) [clear cache]. The speed is much better, it's like comparing Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Windows 8 is more optimized to be much faster than Windows 7. Even though they're both great OS'es, the memory management has been drastically improved.
I have many complaints about 4.3, including delay wake/sleep, sporadic hangs and memory leaking.
On 4.4, they fixed the problematic touchscreen bug (if existent, to up to 10 fingers), battery life is much better (40 hours standby time - no display, wifi on, autosync on), faster responses in app launching, faster boot up time, more RAM for heavier background apps and all apps available on the Play Store for me works on 4.4 (Around 400 apps downloaded).
Con: You need root to re-enable SD card writing for now, until Samsung fixes it with a later update: however, most apps by now have been updated for 4.4, so this shouldn't be needed anymore. Custom ROMs allow apps that don't support 4.4 to read/write to SD card, like osu!.
Well, my expirience with KK on note 3 is amazing... way better than JB. It corrected a lot os bugs, FC, HEAT, BATTERY DRAIN... of course still have some touchwiz's bugs, like index bug... but KK way way better than JB.
Absolutely no regrets...
Same I am on MJ7 I'm happy with it but all I want is root. Don't know if I should update to 4.4 f u samsung
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After being aware that the knox e-fuse on my note 3 is irreversible I am unsure whether I should flash a custom rom or not.
Here I present my reasons for the sake of understanding and validating through your experience if you may share thankfully:
1. I have used nobloat app & root to freeze/disable most stock bloatware.
2. I am not experiencing any lag in real world experience. So I wonder if the speed increase of the custom roms is real or just placebo effect.
3. There is still hope that Samsung will release the 4.4.4 Android for Note 3 as it already did for the Sprint version. Seems to be very soon.
4. I believe the resale value of the note 3 will decrease if I triggered knox and void warranty.
5. I can't spot the touch wiz services in the processes and not sure if it's taking too much ram or its the Android operating system itself that is consuming.
And finally every flashing instruction out there put a lot of warnings and lack of responsibility if the phone is bricked and there isn't even one rom where the forum users don't complain about lack of functionalities so I become unsure whether I should trust the users or they're just noobs who don't comply to the instructions properly.
So I need some advice to end this confusion, are the custom roms worth losing spen functionality along with all samsung features and triggering knox?
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After being aware that the knox e-fuse on my note 3 is irreversible I am unsure whether I should flash a custom rom or not.
Here I present my reasons for the sake of understanding and validating through your experience if you may share thankfully:
1. I have used nobloat app & root to freeze/disable most stock bloatware.
2. I am not experiencing any lag in real world experience. So I wonder if the speed increase of the custom roms is real or just placebo effect.
3. There is still hope that Samsung will release the 4.4.4 Android for Note 3 as it already did for the Sprint version. Seems to be very soon.
4. I believe the resale value of the note 3 will decrease if I triggered knox and void warranty.
5. I can't spot the touch wiz services in the processes and not sure if it's taking too much ram or its the Android operating system itself that is consuming.
And finally every flashing instruction out there put a lot of warnings and lack of responsibility if the phone is bricked and there isn't even one rom where the forum users don't complain about lack of functionalities so I become unsure whether I should trust the users or they're just noobs who don't comply to the instructions properly.
So I need some advice to end this confusion, are the custom roms worth losing spen functionality along with all samsung features and triggering knox?
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Hello.
for me it is down to personal preferences. Some people, like me, hate the bloated touchwiz and the lack of customization and sometimes the occsional laggs turns me off. With custom rom, you may get a better performance if you know how to tweak your setting, plus you have tons of customization ( esp with CM, AOSP roms etc), but you have to sacrifice the s-pen features. If you rarely use your s-pen, it should not be a problem, right? Nevertheless, there are many roms out there with s-pen features still intact, like the tweaked touchwiz rom, S5 port etc. so really it is down to your preferences. I personally dont mind the knox status, as many general consumer wouldnt know about it either if we're going to sell our device to them. Just flash stock rom and everything should be okay.
and oh about flashing, just follow the instructions provided slowly and carefully, in time, it will be a walk in the park for you, lol. :silly:
there are many good people here, even if you are to mess up, there will be help and solutions, most of the time.:fingers-crossed:
iamarto said:
After being aware that the knox e-fuse on my note 3 is irreversible I am unsure whether I should flash a custom rom or not.
Here I present my reasons for the sake of understanding and validating through your experience if you may share thankfully:
1. I have used nobloat app & root to freeze/disable most stock bloatware.
2. I am not experiencing any lag in real world experience. So I wonder if the speed increase of the custom roms is real or just placebo effect.
3. There is still hope that Samsung will release the 4.4.4 Android for Note 3 as it already did for the Sprint version. Seems to be very soon.
4. I believe the resale value of the note 3 will decrease if I triggered knox and void warranty.
5. I can't spot the touch wiz services in the processes and not sure if it's taking too much ram or its the Android operating system itself that is consuming.
And finally every flashing instruction out there put a lot of warnings and lack of responsibility if the phone is bricked and there isn't even one rom where the forum users don't complain about lack of functionalities so I become unsure whether I should trust the users or they're just noobs who don't comply to the instructions properly.
So I need some advice to end this confusion, are the custom roms worth losing spen functionality along with all samsung features and triggering knox?
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A) I believe some custom ROMs are still based on Samsung ROMs, in those you might retain pen and so on, but basically those are 100% what you can also achieve yourself with root, the right programs and the right configuration
B) In my (limited, but still) side-by-side experience the Samsung-stock-based ROMs correctly debloated and configured do not appear in any way less snappy than any custom ROM (running the same programs installed), and the Samsung-based kernels have always shown (much) better battery life. The key part here is however is "correctly debloated and configured"!
I remember when I had my s5 there was stable root options rather quickly but stable root for s7 is taking awhile. Just curious what it is about this phone that's taking a bit? Is it at&t? Samsung security? Lack of Devs?
iscream612 said:
I remember when I had my s5 there was stable root options rather quickly but stable root for s7 is taking awhile. Just curious what it is about this phone that's taking a bit? Is it at&t? Samsung security? Lack of Devs?
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Tbh as long as you don't use xposed and you flash the v15 fix, it runs just as well as stock. Using it on the g930u romantic and I get even better performance and battery life than with stock att rom
As for the time, Samsung has seriously locked this phone down. The normal kernel would not allow any changes to the system, the hash would mismatch. The engineering kernel is more permissive and allows such things. Android vulnerabilities such as towel root are also much more scarce.
dongdong6968 said:
Tbh as long as you don't use xposed and you flash the v15 fix, it runs just as well as stock. Using it on the g930u romantic and I get even better performance and battery life than with stock att rom
As for the time, Samsung has seriously locked this phone down. The normal kernel would not allow any changes to the system, the hash would mismatch. The engineering kernel is more permissive and allows such things. Android vulnerabilities such as towel root are also much more scarce.
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why not use xposed?
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why not use xposed?
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Xposed is what makes it unstable. If you go without Xposed your rom will be ? (plus using the u rom helps)
Before I installed the u rom and rooted, my phone would lose 17% just from being locked in my pocket. Now it's only 8. For 3 hours. Works great.
There's really no point to rooting if xposed and custom ROMs are out of the question IMO
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my s7 is using U-Firmware but no xposed.. being rooted is good to rid of bloated ware apps, use ADBlock host, using screen off app (it requires rooted), freezing background apps that i dont use them and its fun to goofing around with /system and /data... and i am using iron man boot animations. there is a custom ROM working now on forum.
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There's really no point to rooting if xposed and custom ROMs are out of the question IMO
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Rooting is still great if the are no custom roms (which there are)( Echoe rom is running smoothly) all it takes is a little research to learn how to mod yourself and little things that you can do to improve your phone yourself. Not knocking anyone that don't know how cause i still don't know a bunch but there is a lot of things you can do yourself to improve the phone experience. (After all, people that build roms are everyday people that learned!)
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my s7 is using U-Firmware but no xposed.. being rooted is good to rid of bloated ware apps, use ADBlock host, using screen off app (it requires rooted), freezing background apps that i dont use them and its fun to goofing around with /system and /data... and i am using iron man boot animations. there is a custom ROM working now on forum.
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I ran the U FW for a little while but noticed that my battery was getting taxed really bad despite not having any bloat installed so I switched back to stock and it normalized.
Aside from not being able to uninstall the bloatware and change my boot ani, I can do everything you're doing. I have a package disabler (freezing apps), I have a system wide adblocker (adguard) that works perfectly well. Nova has gestures sop I can double tap to lock the screen. I personally have no use for root apps any longer. I can't install a custom kernel so can't over clock the processor, I don't need titanium backup because I'm not going to need to restore my phone after a flash, I'm not sure if viper sound mod works with S7 but I'd certainly want that again.
I'm happy with the phone as is and don't really see the need to modify it in any way aside from the visual customizations and those options are virtually limitless without root also
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dirtydodge said:
Rooting is still great if the are no custom roms (which there are)( Echoe rom is running smoothly) all it takes is a little research to learn how to mod yourself and little things that you can do to improve your phone yourself. Not knocking anyone that don't know how cause i still don't know a bunch but there is a lot of things you can do yourself to improve the phone experience. (After all, people that build roms are everyday people that learned!)
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The problem is I'm on at&t with the snapdragon processor so the phone is locked down very tight. If I had the international version, sure, I may screw around with whatever custom ROMs that are out there but I really don't feel the need. My first smartphone was a galaxy S and I didn't even have that for a month before I rooted it and slapped on some custom ROMs. I flashed that phone well over 50 times with either different ROMs or updates that required a clean flash to operate correctly. I owned a galaxy S3 and did the same thing with that phone. Owned an HTC ONE M8 and ran practically all the customs that were available for that phone too so I have had my fun with firmware customization and then some. Sadly, I couldn't go 6 months without the ROMs ****ting the bed because as you said, the ROM cookers are regular ppl too. Memory leaks were always a serious problem so I was basically CONSTANTLY troubleshooting my devices to get them to run optimally. Inevitably, when I really needed my phone for something is when these problems would occur! That got old! I'm perfectly happy with this device as is. It runs exceptionally well without me forever having to mess with it.
Have your fun. There's a lot of neat things to learn and discover and a lot of heart attacks too when you think, crap, I really screwed up this time! How am I gonna get myself out of THIS mess, lol
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brianray14 said:
I ran the U FW for a little while but noticed that my battery was getting taxed really bad despite not having any bloat installed so I switched back to stock and it normalized.
Aside from not being able to uninstall the bloatware and change my boot ani, I can do everything you're doing. I have a package disabler (freezing apps), I have a system wide adblocker (adguard) that works perfectly well. Nova has gestures sop I can double tap to lock the screen. I personally have no use for root apps any longer. I can't install a custom kernel so can't over clock the processor, I don't need titanium backup because I'm not going to need to restore my phone after a flash, I'm not sure if viper sound mod works with S7 but I'd certainly want that again.
I'm happy with the phone as is and don't really see the need to modify it in any way aside from the visual customizations and those options are virtually limitless without root also
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The problem is I'm on at&t with the snapdragon processor so the phone is locked down very tight. If I had the international version, sure, I may screw around with whatever custom ROMs that are out there but I really don't feel the need. My first smartphone was a galaxy S and I didn't even have that for a month before I rooted it and slapped on some custom ROMs. I flashed that phone well over 50 times with either different ROMs or updates that required a clean flash to operate correctly. I owned a galaxy S3 and did the same thing with that phone. Owned an HTC ONE M8 and ran practically all the customs that were available for that phone too so I have had my fun with firmware customization and then some. Sadly, I couldn't go 6 months without the ROMs ****ting the bed because as you said, the ROM cookers are regular ppl too. Memory leaks were always a serious problem so I was basically CONSTANTLY troubleshooting my devices to get them to run optimally. Inevitably, when I really needed my phone for something is when these problems would occur! That got old! I'm perfectly happy with this device as is. It runs exceptionally well without me forever having to mess with it.
Have your fun. There's a lot of neat things to learn and discover and a lot of heart attacks too when you think, crap, I really screwed up this time! How am I gonna get myself out of THIS mess, lol
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You are correct on every thing you mentioned above. I in a lot of ways are like you, i have had my ups and downs with flashing and recovering and what not. That is why i started learning how to do more myself do that i didn't flash a rom with so many things i didn't need or want. I used to run exposed on every rom and every phone for simple things that i thought were "cool" but i didn't really need. Ever since i quit using exposed and stated modding things that i actually use i quit having problems. I do still run roms, but am a lot more cautious on what i flash. But the Echoe rom (without installing exposed) is one if the smoothest roms i have ever ran. Absolutely no issues so far except swipe text does not work in the stock "Internet" App which is fixed in the updated version which i haven't upgraded to since it is still in beta. But all that aside, i still don't mind messing with things on a day to day basis and i still have the time for it.
I'm thinking in root my device but I have some doubt about it and I want to hear your opinion. All my old devices i've rooted because of performance, memory, vga improvements, but in my S8 i'm worried about root and loose the guarantee. Those custom rooms really makes difference in performance, battery e the others stuffs? Worth the risk?
Thanks!!
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I haven't yet, but I'm also on a snapdragon variant where it would mean losing 20% of my battery. If I had an exynos I'm sure I would. For custom roms, depends what you're looking for. They can add a lot of features and functionality.
P.s. - your english is great
for me (where I live there is just the exynos variant) it is totally worth it. All android devices i owned so far had all custom roms on it - for me it is more of a customisation thing, rather than an extreme performance increase - at least on the s8 because it IS already pretty fast and snappy. Sure here and there a bit faster and maybe with increasing the animation speed even more (at least for the eye). But what I love is just that I can make anything look like I want to. And other things like a stereo speaker mod puts the cherry on top of the cake.
for me the answer is YES it is worth it. the customisation and performance on a custom rom is so much better than stock. add to that dual speaker mod and the camera mod and i am 100% glad i rooted.
NO ,In the end, stock is always the best. you have guarantee. and s8 is good and fast enough. custom Rom always bugs bugs bugs
you can make arguments both ways, I recently rooted my S8 (Exynos) after having it for 3 months, I had no issues with it stock but did like the idea of installing the camera mod, speaker mod etc and the ability to debloat (not just freeze) bloat apps. So I'm enjoying it but I enjoyed while it was stock too. I you enjoy tweaking your phone then for sure its worth it, if not, the S8 is awesome stock too.
Glad of read all those answers. I have Exynos variant and I'm asking this just because my cellphone have some "issues" that are bothering me, like battery drain(main issue for me), volume of the speaker, BT Audio really sucks and a lot of other little things. My guarantee ends in March 2018 so I'm thinking about it now.
If anyone have another opinion, please, share with us!
I have always rooted my HTC phones but after i got the S8 i didn't cos it's fast enough without root, and with root the pay apps don't work here in DK.
Nope . Dont root or change rom of your phone . If you are facing issues like battery drain then reset your phone or change firmware like install different region stock pda .
I am using adshell which force me to make and use samsung developer account , so i have root kind of access of adshell for 3 months using Knox key which is so awesome . I can disable all the bloat also now using adshell.
if you are curious about custom roms you can just root and stay on the stock rom. There are already a bunch of apps like substratum to theme and customize the stock rom the way you like it. And you can also flash camera/stereo speaker mod
thiagomed said:
Glad of read all those answers. I have Exynos variant and I'm asking this just because my cellphone have some "issues" that are bothering me, like battery drain(main issue for me), volume of the speaker, BT Audio really sucks and a lot of other little things. My guarantee ends in March 2018 so I'm thinking about it now.
If anyone have another opinion, please, share with us!
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Just wanted to mention, that your BT Audio Issues won´t be fixed with a custom ROM, since they are usually using the Stock Samsung Bluetooth Stack. Speakervolume and batterylife can be better with Custom ROMS and Mods.
I´m curious, what BT issues are you experiencing? I´m using BT Headphones almost everyday and I´m happy with it.
FloM94 said:
if you are curious about custom roms you can just root and stay on the stock rom. There are already a bunch of apps like substratum to theme and customize the stock rom the way you like it. And you can also flash camera/stereo speaker mod
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On the Exynos version, the root loses 20% of the battery?
I want to root and stay on the stock rom
What is the easiest way?
Thank you very much if you answer
MHN.1515 said:
On the Exynos version, the root loses 20% of the battery?
I want to root and stay on the stock rom
What is the easiest way?
Thank you very much if you answer
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I dont experienced any kind of battery loss after rooting. Pretty much the same, if not better (with renovate ice custom rom).
Rooting alone does nothing with your battery consumption - you just have more permissions on your filesystem. And when you change the look of your UI with substratum for example, there is also not more battery drain because you just change (mostly image) files - nothing thats runs in the background. Correct me if I am wrong.
And with mods like Camera/speaker mod you will also dont notice any significant change (maybe 2% less a day).
Here is how you root your exynos s8:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/how-to-youtube-video-root-magisk-t3687845
Marvinho+ said:
Just wanted to mention, that your BT Audio Issues won´t be fixed with a custom ROM, since they are usually using the Stock Samsung Bluetooth Stack. Speakervolume and batterylife can be better with Custom ROMS and Mods.
I´m curious, what BT issues are you experiencing? I´m using BT Headphones almost everyday and I´m happy with it.
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Thanks for reply. Is not an issue, is more like and desapointment because volume of music in BT or even in headphones its low to me. Iphone of my girlfriend have a better amplification and quality I guess.
But ok, you guys have encourage me, I'll root my phone and install a custom ROM. What is the best ROM for you? Battery life, performance and sound/camera?
I am going to go for yes. I have the international model for rooting.
What do I gain:
Slightly better battery life
Slightly better camera performance
Better sound performance
One-stop disabling of unused OEM apps
Custom clock and battery icons (I cannot tell you how much, after 5 years of seeing 5:00, I do not want to see 5:00pm or 17:00 on my status bar).
Taste of other Samsung roms (like S8 on S7, N8 on S8, S9 on S8).
Titanium Backups of apps
T-mobile US VOLTE support on international phone.
What do I lose:
Full warranty support
Certain banking or credit card apps
Automated updates
I´m using Batman ROM since the first release and it´s just awesome. Never had any Bugs (even after dirtyflashing updates) and the batterylife is just great.
BTW i´m currently using the google Camera port parallel to the Samsung camera and I´m surprised how good it is in comparison, just as a little tipp
First phone I have not rooted as I'm able to achieve a lot of customization without root. Yes there are some die-hard features I would love but rooting this phone vs not makes me more lean towards the not. One of the reason is loosing the guarantee and the other is loosing Samsung Pay. Once you trip the knox, the device is not eligible for Samsung Pay, even if you unroot it. Then again, if I were in a country without Samsung pay I probably would care less about tripping knox.
thiagomed said:
Thanks for reply. Is not an issue, is more like and desapointment because volume of music in BT or even in headphones its low to me. Iphone of my girlfriend have a better amplification and quality I guess.
But ok, you guys have encourage me, I'll root my phone and install a custom ROM. What is the best ROM for you? Battery life, performance and sound/camera?
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S8 stock audio quality is atrocious. I could never go back to a stock audio stack now. I use sauron+v4a+Atmos (axon 7 version). The Atmos is not used all the time (rarely these days) but the other two are used constantly
Arju said:
First phone I have not rooted as I'm able to achieve a lot of customization without root. Yes there are some die-hard features I would love but rooting this phone vs not makes me more lean towards the not. One of the reason is loosing the guarantee and the other is loosing Samsung Pay. Once you trip the knox, the device is not eligible for Samsung Pay, even if you unroot it. Then again, if I were in a country without Samsung pay I probably would care less about tripping knox.
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Hi friend. How're you?
Bat stock Rom and Batman rom are brilliant!
Dear guys,
i'm thinking about rooting or installing even a nice custom rom on the samsung galaxy a51 i just recently bought last week. i'm not sure, but in the past on other phones like nokia 7.2 or even more earlier on sony xperia and htc, i always got problems after it. phone app didnt worked, apps crashed, stock launcher didnt work, camera quality is lower than before and such. the worst thing i ever experienced was the massive increase in battery consumption. my battery was empty in half of the time.
so how is it with galaxy a51? will it increase the experience or will i hate my decision of rooting or even better - custom rom'ing it? its more a question of opinion, since i know that it would be possible. i just dont want to ruin my new device and gain disadvantages from the things im doing. but maybe there is something good that can happen out of it, so i just simply as for your opinions and ideas
Hi!
I use the current firmware with root and get pleasure from it. Nothing flies out, everything works perfectly, the battery holds the same. But I'm having trouble assembling custom firmware (GSI), and I have one firmware, but I haven't tested it. But in the near future the performance of this firmware should be checked by another person. At the moment, topical custom firmware under the 4th. On custom firmware, surprisingly, I work many functions. But sleep did not like how the fingerprint scanner works (on some firmware is highlighted not a separate area of the screen, and the entire screen). In addition, there remains the question of the full performance of the cameras. In terms of performance, custom shells should be faster, but the Havoc I tested seemed to me to be two more glitchy than Samsung's own shell.
My opinion: if you like OneUI and you want ROOT - you can get a lot of stock firmware.
Hello,
You can try this
Note:
1. Your phone Unlock Bootloader >> Click here for tutorial Unlock Bootloader
2. TWRP >> Click here to install TWRP for A51
All files >> Click here
Here is link to my thread GSI Havoc Android 10 for Samsung Galaxy A51
p0w3r_off said:
Dear guys,
i'm thinking about rooting or installing even a nice custom rom on the samsung galaxy a51 i just recently bought last week. i'm not sure, but in the past on other phones like nokia 7.2 or even more earlier on sony xperia and htc, i always got problems after it. phone app didnt worked, apps crashed, stock launcher didnt work, camera quality is lower than before and such. the worst thing i ever experienced was the massive increase in battery consumption. my battery was empty in half of the time.
so how is it with galaxy a51? will it increase the experience or will i hate my decision of rooting or even better - custom rom'ing it? its more a question of opinion, since i know that it would be possible. i just dont want to ruin my new device and gain disadvantages from the things im doing. but maybe there is something good that can happen out of it, so i just simply as for your opinions and ideas
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Custom ROM for A51 >> https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-a515x-refinedui-v1-0-oneui2-1-android10.4220373/
I am planning also to do these, unlock bootloader, install TWRP, root. What are the requirements needed for this? Version? Build? Exact model of A51? Will all applications run if I do these? Thank you