Why is Ambient Display so random? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My biggest source of frustration right now is how inconsistent Ambient Display is. I suppose I was spoiled with the Moto X because it worked without fail all the time. On stock android Ambient Display just sort of comes on when it feels like it, but it's even more inconsistent on this phone than it was on my Nexus 6. It's to the point that I don't even rely on it, I just go straight for the fingerprint reader or power button because otherwise, I end up just looking at a black screen 98% of the time.
This applies both to when I have notifications and don't. Sometimes, I'll pick it up and it'll show me the time. Other times, nothing. I pull it out of my pocket with a notification, notification light blinking and everything and the screen never comes on until I hit the power button or scan my finger.

That is frustrating. I was hoping to notification on the home screen "light up" like they do on the iPhone. I find this feature useful when I'm driving. Are you saying you have the feature enabled and it works intermittently?

Mine hardly ever works like it should...
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Hopefully a software update will fix the issue.

Same here. Coming from a Turbo I miss it...I wish we could use the proximity sensor to activate it...

Same here. I hope some custom rom may bring moto x like active display.

Ambient Display is totally fubar on my 6P; no notifications whatsoever, the phone is sitting on my desk, and it just lights on and on and on wihout any reason.

That's bizarre...mine works 90% of the time as expected.

wewewi999 said:
Ambient Display is totally fubar on my 6P; no notifications whatsoever, the phone is sitting on my desk, and it just lights on and on and on wihout any reason.
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Have a feeling you have an app installed that controls the led, ex lightflow or light manager. If so disable said app and this will stop happening.
At least that was the problem in my case..

richport29 said:
Have a feeling you have an app installed that controls the led, ex lightflow or light manager. If so disable said app and this will stop happening.
At least that was the problem in my case..
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I dont have any LED control apps installed and mine does exactly what wewewi999 is saying. I will hear it and look, nothing happens. If I pick it up, it ONLY activates Ambient Display with it is completely vertical. If it goes away and I want Ambient Display to activate again, forget it. I basically have to do the twisting motion that I used to do to activate the camera on the Moto phones to get the Active Display to turn on.
Currently, I have an unread notification. Ambient Display activated instantly, then pulsed once after about 5 seconds. Then pulsed again after about 10 seconds. Still unread, it has stopped pulsing altogether? The next notification, it didnt pulse at all. Random.

tluley51 said:
Currently, I have an unread notification. Ambient Display activated instantly, then pulsed once after about 5 seconds. Then pulsed again after about 10 seconds. Still unread, it has stopped pulsing altogether? The next notification, it didnt pulse at all. Random.
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Mine does exactly this. It's been irritating me. I've tried uninstalling apps, clearing cache and still it occurs.
Shame because I like the ambient display feature. Hopefully a software update can fix this.
If you find a solution do let me know.
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+1
Coming from a Droid Maxx I am so used to just pulling my phone out off my pocket or lightly nudging it when it's sitting on the desk and having the time (and any recent notifications) show up without having to do anything else. With the Nexus 6p, just as others have said, it's so random that I can't even figure out how it's supposed to work. Surely this is not what they intended. I really hope they can and will fix it.
Seriously missing Moto!

Mine seems a little better with the notification led off. Can't say its perfect as I'm used to Moto's awesome implementation, but its definitely better without the notification led on for me.

I think it's Doze. My Nexus 6 was very sensitive until I updated to Marshmallow. It still responds reliably when I pick it up, but it is less sensitive to nudging and of course notifications are delayed because of how Doze works.

Poser said:
That's bizarre...mine works 90% of the time as expected.
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Mine has been working at least 90% of the time too. I was worried after seeing all these posts but it's been working great.

jamespat93 said:
Mine has been working at least 90% of the time too. I was worried after seeing all these posts but it's been working great.
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Mine wasn't working well, so I installed AcDisplay. It now works much better. Not sure if it is the app or the setting that is making it work, but it is now working well enough to make me feel like compares to my old Droid Maxx.

I realised that the tempered glass screen protector I was using (which had no cutout for proximity sensor) was the trouble maker. I knew the protector was already causing trouble while receiving/disconnecting calls but had it for the time being until I got a correct one. Now that I removed the screen protector the ambient display works flawlessly!

cynicist said:
I think it's Doze. My Nexus 6 was very sensitive until I updated to Marshmallow. It still responds reliably when I pick it up, but it is less sensitive to nudging and of course notifications are delayed because of how Doze works.
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I wonder if we can turn off battery optimization for the app or service which controls ambient display? Anyone know what it is called?
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jmaclean62 said:
Mine wasn't working well, so I installed AcDisplay. It now works much better. Not sure if it is the app or the setting that is making it work, but it is now working well enough to make me feel like compares to my old Droid Maxx.
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Any noticeable effect on battery life?

jmaclean62 said:
Mine wasn't working well, so I installed AcDisplay. It now works much better. Not sure if it is the app or the setting that is making it work, but it is now working well enough to make me feel like compares to my old Droid Maxx.
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so your using AcDisplay instead? Or AcDisplay improved your ambient display somehow?
manas.neo said:
I realised that the tempered glass screen protector I was using (which had no cutout for proximity sensor) was the trouble maker. I knew the protector was already causing trouble while receiving/disconnecting calls but had it for the time being until I got a correct one. Now that I removed the screen protector the ambient display works flawlessly!
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Yeah my screen protector has the cut out too and I've never really had a problem with ambient display. Tried a Moto x Pure before and it pretty much works just as good.

jamespat93 said:
so your using AcDisplay instead? Or AcDisplay improved your ambient display somehow?
Yeah my screen protector has the cut out too and I've never really had a problem with ambient display. Tried a Moto x Pure before and it pretty much works just as good.
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I tried AcDisplay yesterday and its useless if you use the fingerprint scanner to unlock. AcDisplay is just another loop to jump thru to unlocking the phone. I will admit though, it DOES work MUCH better than Ambient Display. Much more sensitive.

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Notification LED

Just wondering if the Nexus S has a notification LED like every other phone, except the Galaxy S of course. Can't find any info of that on the latest previews/reviews.
Early reviews says it does not have an LED.
Use the NoLED app on the market instead http://www.appbrain.com/app/noled/com.led.notify
Hmmm thanks for that! Last time I read about NoLed it was an alfa and ofcourse very limited, but I see it has progressed a lot. I've been using BLN on my Captivate for a while and kind of like it but will try NoLed right now.
yup, no notification LED, luckily noLED has turned into an amazing app. i'm actually using it on my Nexus one. people always find it pretty awesome when they see the trackball and the screen have the notification.
neok44 said:
yup, no notification LED, luckily noLED has turned into an amazing app. i'm actually using it on my Nexus one. people always find it pretty awesome when they see the trackball and the screen have the notification.
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how does noLED work? care to explain?
slowz3r said:
how does noLED work? care to explain?
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noLED creates a notification icon (dot or actual icon) on your phones screen when you get a notification.
on OLED screens, anytime a pixel is black, it's not using any power, so with phones that don't have LED's, using the screen works since your only lighting up the part of the screen with the notification.
To save even more power you can make it a simple pixel in one corner, or use an icon that moves around the screen (what i use)
And it looks damn awesome too.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/noled/com.led.notify
neok44 said:
noLED creates a notification icon (dot or actual icon) on your phones screen when you get a notification.
on OLED screens, anytime a pixel is black, it's not using any power, so with phones that don't have LED's, using the screen works since your only lighting up the part of the screen with the notification.
To save even more power you can make it a simple pixel in one corner, or use an icon that moves around the screen (what i use)
And it looks damn awesome too.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/noled/com.led.notify
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Hmmm.....giving it a try, as we speak. Very hard to imagine life without a dedicated notification light. Seems totally insane!!!
You're telling me!
Coming from a Blackberry, I would DIE without a notification LED.
Anyone have issues with the battery life when running the noLED app?
Backlit dedicated buttons...
Just tested NoLed by sending a chrome to phone link. My only real concern is that I noticed the dedicated buttons at the bottom of the N1 seem to remain lit, in addition to the tiny colored pixel notification. Do they stay lit indefinitely??? I did not notice an option to disable this, but I didn't watch it for more than a minute or so to see if they would turn off. It pretty much looked like they were gonna stay on. Pretty sure that would be detrimental to battery life. Did I miss something?
Well, on my Captivate I disabled BLN(custom notification system for Galaxy S that uses buttons backlight) and only have noLed for notifications. It also has the option to use the proximity sensor to turn the screen on/off so it isn't displaying anything while the phone is upside down or in your pocket. Very nice app.
neok44 said:
noLED creates a notification icon (dot or actual icon) on your phones screen when you get a notification.
on OLED screens, anytime a pixel is black, it's not using any power, so with phones that don't have LED's, using the screen works since your only lighting up the part of the screen with the notification.
To save even more power you can make it a simple pixel in one corner, or use an icon that moves around the screen (what i use)
And it looks damn awesome too.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/noled/com.led.notify
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Oh wow you are right, it does look awesome
this is awesome.
It doesn't seem to work with Launcher Pro on my Vibrant. =T
On my Nexus One, I use LEDs Hack: http://www.appbrain.com/app/leds-hack-(root-only)/net.geekherd.softbuttonshack
To turn off the soft button lighting.
Maybe with a combination of this and noLED, we'd have a good combo.
i dont get it, i seriously cannot live without a led notification light on my phone, if google had time to include a NFC tag reader why did they not include a led notification light? even the nexus one has one!

Notification light

anybody working on or considering making notification light using the capacitive buttons on the bottom? is it possible to use those leds as a notification?
That would be an awesome solution...
To use as notifications OnLY the capasitive buttons and not all Screen as "NoLED" app...
+1 from me...
+1 I also agree
and maybe a stretch and maybe you guys dont agree but you could also have each button be a different notification, ie:
text message the back button would light up, email the menu button so on and so fourth
+2 for this idea
It's already been done for the galaxy s's, BLN requires a custom kernel though.
I prefer NoLed, in the market, works great for notifications. NoLed
Im thinking about getting a Nexus S.
The only thing stopping me is the lack of notification LED.
It would be pretty good if this could work.
And being able to tell if its sms or email etc from which button lights would be very cool. But i would think the backlight is just one big light.
I've had a look at NoLed, but it doesnt seem ideal. If i get a notification while im asleep, the screens going to stay on for up to 8 hours non stop? That doesnt sound good.
Also it seems to mess with the lock screen and wake up of the phone.
So i just noticed today when pressing the capacitive button, it turns off. that likely means each one is lit independently from a separate LED correct? so if thats the case, theoretically each led should be able to flash independently?
terryhau said:
Im thinking about getting a Nexus S.
The only thing stopping me is the lack of notification LED.
It would be pretty good if this could work.
And being able to tell if its sms or email etc from which button lights would be very cool. But i would think the backlight is just one big light.
I've had a look at NoLed, but it doesnt seem ideal. If i get a notification while im asleep, the screens going to stay on for up to 8 hours non stop? That doesnt sound good.
Also it seems to mess with the lock screen and wake up of the phone.
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From what I read... the NOLED app works well with the AMOLED screens because blacks dont use power. It basically turns on for that single notification or something like that.
You should read more about it from the vibrant sub forum.... with both having AMOLED screens.
azn2050 said:
From what I read... the NOLED app works well with the AMOLED screens because blacks dont use power. It basically turns on for that single notification or something like that.
You should read more about it from the vibrant sub forum.... with both having AMOLED screens.
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Correct, in amoled screens the only pixels drawing power are the ones that are being lit for the notification. You can also set the notifications to timeout after a certain amount of minutes, and can also set a "sleep time" so there no notification while you're sleeping at night. Another awesome feature is the use of the proximity sensor, so that if the phone is in your pocket it doesn't turn on the notification but once you take your phone out of your pocket the notification shows up on the screen.
Check the devs thread for more info:
integra891 said:
So i just noticed today when pressing the capacitive button, it turns off. that likely means each one is lit independently from a separate LED correct? so if thats the case, theoretically each led should be able to flash independently?
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This is EXACTLY what I hoped was going to be possible.
integra891 said:
So i just noticed today when pressing the capacitive button, it turns off. that likely means each one is lit independently from a separate LED correct? so if thats the case, theoretically each led should be able to flash independently?
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You would think this would've the case but not exactly. The galaxy s does this also but it is not possible to activate the leds separately
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matt_stang said:
You would think this would've the case but not exactly. The galaxy s does this also but it is not possible to activate the leds separately
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Yes, I was also thinking this too but could there be some sort of app written making it believe all other buttons were "pressed" so their lights were off once a notification came in? I strongly believe ANYTHING can be changed with a few smart edits I mean people here on XDA bring multi-touch and FM radio's to devices that shouldn't have those features!
Even if you could have each notification have a different light dimmed as if it were being "pressed"
As in: Text message= all lights lit BUT the home
Voicemail=all lights lit BUT the back button ETC...
If they could be seperate that would be great but honestly even if it's all of them it's good enough for me, I just wanna see SOMETHING if my phone is just sitting there
ikon8 said:
It's already been done for the galaxy s's, BLN requires a custom kernel though.
I prefer NoLed, in the market, works great for notifications. NoLed
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NoLED is ok except for 2 things for me.
1 - I don't like the dots/icons hopping around the screen. I would rather they were just lined up across the top or the side.
2 - It plays around a bit much with turning the screen on and off.
Looking at NoLED there is NO reason why he couldn't make it act exactly like the Notification LED for the Ball on the Nexus One. Just have different colors for different notifications and rotate them on the same cluster of 4 LEDS on the top right of the phone.
Boom you have rotating colored notifications simple and effective
I wish I was better at coding stuff...haha
I'm glad there is a thread going about this!
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You couldn't be anymore on point man. The jumping about is slightly unprofessional.
hopefully well see some work towards this once some custom roms start coming out
The reason the notifications move around the screen is so that it doesn't burn out those pixels.
dudeimgeorge said:
You couldn't be anymore on point man. The jumping about is slightly unprofessional.
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Yes I agree, it would be amazing if they just slid around your screen or drifted all over. OR a pulsing light pops up on the screen just like a virtual trackball like the nexus one!
sassyness77 said:
Yes I agree, it would be amazing if they just slid around your screen or drifted all over. OR a pulsing light pops up on the screen just like a virtual trackball like the nexus one!
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clearly you guys do not understand why it jumps around so unprofessionally
do you want burned out pixel?

[Q] My VZW G2 vs Friends ATT G2. Why doesn't mine do it too?

OK so I have a VZW G2 and my friend has an ATT G2. When he gets a text message his screen will turn on and mine won't. And his notification light blinks about every 2 to 3 seconds where as mine is something like everything 30 seconds. These both suck and I want it to be like the ATT version but I can't figure out how.
Any help would be great.
One more thing, I've also got home screen redraws and he said he has never had one. WTF?
Interesting. I hate how the screen doesn't turn on when I get a text on my VZ g2. Would love to hear the answer or if the is a fix.
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At least it not just me i guess.
Been using this since I got my phone. The time isn't very accurate in my experience, I have it set for 10 seconds but it's closer to 5 or 6. Anyway, it works well enough so I haven't bothered looking for another similar app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dberm22.SMSWakeUp
pimfram said:
Been using this since I got my phone. The time isn't very accurate in my experience, I have it set for 10 seconds but it's closer to 5 or 6. Anyway, it works well enough so I haven't bothered looking for another similar app.
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Just tried it. It does wake the screen but then it gets rid of my notification light and missed message icon in the status bar all together. So if I missed to screen turning on I wouldn't know I had a new message at all.
masterpickle said:
Just tried it. It does wake the screen but then it gets rid of my notification light and missed message icon in the status bar all together. So if I missed to screen turning on I wouldn't know I had a new message at all.
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I use Light Flow for LED control. Stock LED controller has never been very useful for me. You can easily set different colors and durations and pretty much anything else you'd ever want.
pimfram said:
I use Light Flow for LED control. Stock LED controller has never been very useful for me. You can easily set different colors and durations and pretty much anything else you'd ever want.
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Any other suggestions?
Light Flow ftw!
pimfram said:
I use Light Flow for LED control. Stock LED controller has never been very useful for me. You can easily set different colors and durations and pretty much anything else you'd ever want.
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Plus one on Light Flow. So many customizations and can even control your power button led and flashlight. Blows all others away imho.:good:
I can't get Light Flow to do anything other than wake the screen.

Ambient display works on Moto G 2nd gen (Lollipop)

Good news for everyone who haven't tested this feature properly. Ambient display feature works on Moto g
Just turn it on and send yourself a message or something and wait for your screen to show notification.
Edit: it works but sometimes it just blinks led and doesn't shows notification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaxoFFuneUc&feature=youtu.be
Battery life with ambient? Its LCD, not Amoled, Right?
MrIngenieur said:
Battery life with ambient? Its LCD, not Amoled, Right?
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No idea about battery yet, It wasn't working previously but now it's working.
Ps: Yes it's IPS LCD
What did You change to make it work?
MrIngenieur said:
What did You change to make it work?
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Nothing, just turned that feature ON. If you have lollipop installed, try it with some patience as sometime only led blinks.
Oh hell,
You just need to tap once on the notification to wake up your device.
(I know it's already ON due to ambient but still..
Yaa it's really working, for me also....
It does work rather well, actually
Top marks, Moto.

Proxity sensor turns phone screen on

If my phone is flat, facing up, and I walk near it or wave my hands over it, the screen turns on. Not sure if this is an Android MM issue or a setting within the phone but I want to turn that off. Any ideas?
Turn it off? It's such a great feature that Google straight up ripped it off from Moto...
Bit anyways...open the "Moto" app and look under gestures
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Metfanant said:
Turn it off? It's such a great feature that Google straight up ripped it off from Moto...
Bit anyways...open the "Moto" app and look under gestures
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LOL, it spooks the sh1t out of me. Like its on the desk next to me while I'm working and I'll look at it and its like "oh, you must want to know the time".
its one of the main features of this phone and its predecessors, and a big reason why myself and others would buy a motorola phone . Its called ambient display and it takes the place of a notification light by turning on at regular intervals when you have a notification like a text message. It will also turn on when you get close, or when you pull it out of your pocket, so you can see if you have any notifications or just check the time. since its an AMOLED screen, its only turns on the pixels of the white font, and any black area is "off", so it doesnt completely wake your device every time and kill your battery. its a very useful feature and i would suggest giving it a shot. if you get used to it, its super handy
Moto gestures are one of my main reasons to get a moto device. That and I can have nice hardware without Touchwiz. Love the 3500mah battery in my force.

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