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Hey guys..been using the Touch HD for a few days now and whenever i take a pic the pic is a bit blurry even after auto focus... and the pictures also lack much brightness even though i bumped up the settings a bit.. also i cant fugure out at what lvl i should keep the sharpness, contrast n brightness too.... so any1 with a good camera comfig plz tell us what settings u are using so we can get some decent pics (of even pages filled with text)!! help plz
sephiroth_vg said:
Hey guys..been using the Touch HD for a few days now and whenever i take a pic the pic is a bit blurry even after auto focus... and the pictures also lack much brightness even though i bumped up the settings a bit.. also i cant fugure out at what lvl i should keep the sharpness, contrast n brightness too.... so any1 with a good camera comfig plz tell us what settings u are using so we can get some decent pics (of even pages filled with text)!! help plz
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Try the following:
Increase Quality of Photos
To increase the quality of photos, open the Camera, go to Settings, Advanced, then Image Properties. Increase Contrast to 5, Saturation to 5, and Sharpness to 4. Now you will have better definition and much more realistic colours. Also don't forget to choose Super Fine under Quality in Advanced Settings menu.
Reduce Blurriness in Photos
To focus better, have shutter set just to Touch. After you have touched you have the whole three seconds to steady your hand and take a non-blurry photo.
Activate Hidden Photo Modes HD Tweak can also be used for this
You can activate hidden photo modes using the 'HD Tweak' app. Make sure to leave the resolutions for these modes at 1 megapixel though or they may not work properly. For for the more advanced users, use the following reg entries:
To enable Burst mode
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P6
set "Enable" on "1"
To enable Sports mode:
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P8
set "Enable" on "1"
To enable Video Share mode:
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P9
set "Enable" on "1"
To enable GPS Photo mode:
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P10
set "Enable" on "1"
Get True 5 Mega pixel Resolution When Using Camera
To get 5MP instead of 4MP resolution when using your camera, you must switch off Widescreen mode in the 'Advanced' Menu.
Normal screen = 2592 x 1944 pixels = 5,038,848 pixels = 5MP
Widescreen = 2592 x 1552 pixels = 4,022,784 pixels = 4MP
Get Better Video Quality When Using Camera
Use MPEG format instead of H.263 for better quality video output. This option can be found by going to the Advanced Setting from the Video Settings menu. Once there, go to Capture Format and change format if necessary.
Hope this helps
thanx alot
There's nothing can be done for indoor shots, the camera unit is simply rubbish. The only way to cope is to be ultra steady, during the approx 1/4 second it takes for it to take the picture.
Outdoors shots are fine though.
Fallen Spartan said:
Try the following:
Increase Quality of Photos
To increase the quality of photos, open the Camera, go to Settings, Advanced, then Image Properties. Increase Contrast to 5, Saturation to 5, and Sharpness to 4. Now you will have better definition and much more realistic colours. Also don't forget to choose Super Fine under Quality in Advanced Settings menu.
Reduce Blurriness in Photos
To focus better, have shutter set just to Touch. After you have touched you have the whole three seconds to steady your hand and take a non-blurry photo.
Activate Hidden Photo Modes HD Tweak can also be used for this
You can activate hidden photo modes using the 'HD Tweak' app. Make sure to leave the resolutions for these modes at 1 megapixel though or they may not work properly. For for the more advanced users, use the following reg entries:
To enable Burst mode
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P6
set "Enable" on "1"
To enable Sports mode:
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P8
set "Enable" on "1"
To enable Video Share mode:
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P9
set "Enable" on "1"
To enable GPS Photo mode:
Mobile Device\HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P10
set "Enable" on "1"
Get True 5 Mega pixel Resolution When Using Camera
To get 5MP instead of 4MP resolution when using your camera, you must switch off Widescreen mode in the 'Advanced' Menu.
Normal screen = 2592 x 1944 pixels = 5,038,848 pixels = 5MP
Widescreen = 2592 x 1552 pixels = 4,022,784 pixels = 4MP
Get Better Video Quality When Using Camera
Use MPEG format instead of H.263 for better quality video output. This option can be found by going to the Advanced Setting from the Video Settings menu. Once there, go to Capture Format and change format if necessary.
Hope this helps
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I tried 3mp, widescreen, n timer settings to 2-3 seconds...the shrpnes contrast all to defalut and the quality to fine (super fine is more noise) and then wen i take pic..its completely in focus n not over colored....u try that...i tried ur settings but still crappy pics (Nokia N73 takes better pics at 3 Mp..)
aresnalfc said:
i know a developer who has developed a piece of software which will set the best settings to your phone depending on the light and movement intake. i agree the camera settings are dogey but with this software it almost gives you the quality of a 10mp camera.
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But be brutally honest I was very disappointed with the camera.
Outdoors
It's not bad taking pictures of scenery & buildings
Indoors
Very poor quality
Movement
Been trying to take pics of my baby son, but the wee bugger won't sit still, so pictures are crap!!
HTC have got to start improving there camera in line with other manufacturers. Generally I find them a step or 2 behind
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yeah i was too, the software and specs that are bulit into the phone you would expect a much better quality camera, not even flash is avalible. Apparently there is a flash built in the phone but not deadicated for the camera, i will assume there will be some download which will make this flash to be intergrated with the camera.
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Flash built in it? Are you sure? Where?
Maybe Adobe Flash Plugin
sephiroth_vg said:
I tried 3mp, widescreen, n timer settings to 2-3 seconds...the shrpnes contrast all to defalut and the quality to fine (super fine is more noise) and then wen i take pic..its completely in focus n not over colored....u try that...i tried ur settings but still crappy pics (Nokia N73 takes better pics at 3 Mp..)
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That's to be expected - on a sensor this size 3mp will always take better pics than 5mp.
well just now tried 5 Mp mode as well.... works sometimes...other times doesnt.. totally zzzz scene...and taking indoor pics + poor light = forget it...it wont shoot a decent pic no matter what settings i choose...u got to have a SOURCE of LIGHT IN the roon ( bulb or tube lights .. else dnt even bother taking the camera out.. so im not so dissapointed with the camera (4/10)
sephiroth_vg said:
well just now tried 5 Mp mode as well.... works sometimes...other times doesnt.. totally zzzz scene...and taking indoor pics + poor light = forget it...it wont shoot a decent pic no matter what settings i choose...u got to have a SOURCE of LIGHT IN the roon ( bulb or tube lights .. else dnt even bother taking the camera out.. so im not so dissapointed with the camera (4/10)
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How can you give a score of 4/10 and not be disappointed unless your expectations where already very low?
mmm
I have taken a few pics with the " new settings " ( found around the forum plus these )
And found that it has increased the camrera very well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
out of 10 ....??
7/10 ( no flash or anti shake )
aresnalfc said:
i know a developer who has developed a piece of software which will set the best settings to your phone depending on the light and movement intake. i agree the camera settings are dogey but with this software it almost gives you the quality of a 10mp camera.
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And where might we find such a gem of an app...
Fallen Spartan said:
How can you give a score of 4/10 and not be disappointed unless your expectations where already very low?
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yep...they were already low...i bought the HD cuz wanted to chat, watch vids sometimes, annoy my mom whiles shes on the puter (remote desktop ftw) and sme decent pics...well it gives me sme pics...but still i cant have a CLEAR image of text from my registers ( am a student) so dissapointed by that...but give good light n the camera pawns...
Fallen Spartan said:
How can you give a score of 4/10 and not be disappointed unless your expectations where already very low?
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yep...they were already low...i bought the HD cuz wanted to chat, watch vids sometimes, annoy my mom whiles shes on the puter (remote desktop ftw) and sme decent pics...well it gives me sme pics...but still i cant have a CLEAR image of text from my registers ( am a student) so dissapointed by that...but give good light n the camera pawns...ill also be looking in to development once i get settled down with windows mobile (still playing around with roms n stuff its fun)
Fallen Spartan said:
But be brutally honest I was very disappointed with the camera.
Outdoors
It's not bad taking pictures of scenery & buildings
Indoors
Very poor quality
Movement
Been trying to take pics of my baby son, but the wee bugger won't sit still, so pictures are crap!!
HTC have got to start improving there camera in line with other manufacturers. Generally I find them a step or 2 behind
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Let me know if you figure away to take a photo of your baby and its clear, i have a month old and same thing happens, everytime i take a photo he is moving too much, end up using my g/fs s.e. to take photo and blue tooth across, but shouldnt have to go through that hassle all the time
t3rm3y said:
Let me know if you figure away to take a photo of your baby and its clear, i have a month old and same thing happens, everytime i take a photo he is moving too much, end up using my g/fs s.e. to take photo and blue tooth across, but shouldnt have to go through that hassle all the time
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ur best bet is to turn the auto focus...or try sport mode
flash yr HD with latest ROM from dutty. you'll be amazed by the difference.
it seems that HTC really patched it in the latest ROMs!
here uy have an example: a snapshot of my pc screen under fluorescent light (worse conditions). is it really so bad for a PPC camera?
KukurikU said:
flash yr HD with latest ROM from dutty. you'll be amazed by the difference.
it seems that HTC really patched it in the latest ROMs!
here uy have an example: a snapshot of my pc screen under fluorescent light (worse conditions). is it really so bad for a PPC camera?
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image is still very noisy. try taking a pic of a something else indoors. not your computer screen.
elmarko99 said:
image is still very noisy. try taking a pic of a something else indoors. not your computer screen.
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i did it intentionally. i wanted to prove a point. i know that i can take outdoors pics better than this one. i already did it. the most important thing is not to forget that the camera on any PPC is only an add-on and its use should never go beyond occasionally "i forgot my camera home" moments. if somebody wants good pics.... buy a dedicated camera!! do not have high expectations from an "accessory".
my HD is first a c o m u n i c a t i o n device and second a personal digital assistant (PDA). this are the only fields i am very "choosy". if somebody will sell me such a device without a camera....fine with me!
sephiroth_vg said:
ur best bet is to turn the auto focus...or try sport mode
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and how do you turn off the auto focus?
touch focus setting makes little to no difference and it still tries to focus after the shutter key is pressed.
Hello, i have serched the web for 30 min now and i cant find an app that lets me take photos with å slow shutter speed so now i ask here. Does it exist any app where i can get slow shutter speed pictures? I know it exists on iPhone so i expect it to be able on my desire too
Hello, Search the market for "Fast brust camera" ... i jump in the air, and let somebody take the pic for me, it actually works!!!!
But it takes low res photos (Low res = faster pics taken)
Try it.
No i dont want to take fast pictures, i want the camera to be "slower"
So I ran some tests - by comparing the Idol3 camera with my 4 year old Panasonic ZS7 P&S camera . What I have noticed that at low ISO - keeping both cameras stationary - the results are pretty close. For indoor pictures, what I have noticed is that the Idol3 flash does not come on easily. But this appears to be a general smartphone thing, because my Galaxy Exhibit camera is doing the same thing. Instead of turning the flash on , the Idol3 is bumping up the ISO to over 2000 ! This results in very grainy pictures.
So one way to ensure better pictures *could* be to follow this rule -- Outdoor - set ISO=100 always . Indoors - set ISO=200 , and set flash to forced.
Also - I noticed that the front camera can go to down to ISO 50 - whereas the back camera only goes down to ISO-100 .
I will do some more tests in the coming weekend. Does anyone know of a camera app that will tell me the shutter speed the camera is going to use *before* taking the picture? That way I can decide whether I need to bump up the ISO to speed up the shutter.
Some samples
Here are some sample pictures - in outdoor sunlit conditions --> https://goo.gl/photos/ckxAPRmKo3PWJTat8
I would like to hear what y'all think.
I have a slight amendment to my earlier suggestion. I noticed that for indoor shots, if I cap ISO to 200, it is slowing down the shutter leading to a shaky, and therefore, blurred picture. A grainy picture is still better than a blurred picture. So I think a better approach would be to force the flash, and then set the shutter to 1/30, and allow it to bump the ISO if it has to. The stock camera app has a manual mode where it allows setting shutter speed.
For outdoor pictures I am using 'A Better Camera' - free version. It allows me to set and save the ISO setting to ISO-100. Also it allows me to pick the auto-focus mode to AF-Lock. I think a lot of blurred pictures are because of focus issues. AF-lock allows you to focus on a specific object, and then lock it so that the phone is not constantly re-focusing. Another trick that can be considered is to use a 2-second timer, to prevent shake due to touching the screen for taking the picture. .
I will try some indoor shots next, as well as the RAW mode and then post when I have them.
Good info
i tried the oppo colorOS camera idk if its a placebo effect but i kinda notices good pictures sadly i cant take 50mp pictures like that phone yet has 13mp camera too using that same sensor it just stitches the best pics zoomed in into one making an illusion of 50mp
stl1859 said:
Here are some sample pictures - in outdoor sunlit conditions --> https://goo.gl/photos/ckxAPRmKo3PWJTat8
I would like to hear what y'all think.
I have a slight amendment to my earlier suggestion. I noticed that for indoor shots, if I cap ISO to 200, it is slowing down the shutter leading to a shaky, and therefore, blurred picture. A grainy picture is still better than a blurred picture. So I think a better approach would be to force the flash, and then set the shutter to 1/30, and allow it to bump the ISO if it has to. The stock camera app has a manual mode where it allows setting shutter speed.
For outdoor pictures I am using 'A Better Camera' - free version. It allows me to set and save the ISO setting to ISO-100. Also it allows me to pick the auto-focus mode to AF-Lock. I think a lot of blurred pictures are because of focus issues. AF-lock allows you to focus on a specific object, and then lock it so that the phone is not constantly re-focusing. Another trick that can be considered is to use a 2-second timer, to prevent shake due to touching the screen for taking the picture. .
I will try some indoor shots next, as well as the RAW mode and then post when I have them.
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I think the photos look great. Nice dynamic range and colors.
Have you tried using the manual mode of the stock camera to change the settings?
vk135 said:
Have you tried using the manual mode of the stock camera to change the settings?
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Yes . The problem with the stock camera app is that it always starts in the auto-mode. It would be nice if it remembered the prior setting, but does not. For someone like me that likes a lot of manual controls ( shutter , aperture, ISO etc. etc. ) , this is a big pain if I have to switch to manual mode every time I take a picture. When in manual mode, it does not save any prior settings. So not only do I have to switch to manual mode, I then have to open another dialog and set the ISO to my liking. That in my opinion is way too cumbersome. In this respect, 'A Better Camera' is slightly better. It allows me to specify which settings it should remember between launches. So I can ask it to always remember the ISO and auto-focus modes. It does appear to have a bug , in that it does not display the modes correctly. So on start-up, it is telling me that it is on ISO-Auto - when I set it to ISO-100 - and when I actually take the picture, I do see that the ISO-100 was picked. Another problem with that app is that it does not allow setting of shutter speed, which the stock camera app does.
So I really haven't found any one camera app that does everything I want . But in doing this research , I am realizing how big of a pain using a smartphone as a camera can be. I really wish Alcatel had a model with no front and back camera and for $50 less ! That would be the perfect device for me
RAW capture
I managed to try out the RAW capture functionality of the camera.
Here is the unprocessed TIFF file, created from a .DNG using dcraw >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B960wOI9V0CfWGpmRUxicVpLZDg/view?usp=sharing
Here is a jpeg - taken using the 'A Better Camera' app , of the same scene, at pretty much the same time >> https://goo.gl/photos/xUcHGp5B9triKSNC8
From what I can tell, the image generated from the RAW capture has better color reproduction.
stl1859 said:
I managed to try out the RAW capture functionality of the camera.
Here is the unprocessed TIFF file, created from a .DNG using dcraw >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B960wOI9V0CfWGpmRUxicVpLZDg/view?usp=sharing
Here is a jpeg - taken using the 'A Better Camera' app , of the same scene, at pretty much the same time >> https://goo.gl/photos/xUcHGp5B9triKSNC8
From what I can tell, the image generated from the RAW capture has better color reproduction.
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What camera app are you using to get RAW captures?
Borghi said:
What camera app are you using to get RAW captures?
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This one --> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=troop.com.freedcam&hl=en
is there any apps that can take 50mp pictures like the oppo camera? it uses a trick that takes and stitches various photos into one now thats awesome
Took this shot of the moon using the default camera in manual mode. iso 100, 1/1000. Strangely the exif says the aperture is 2.5 not 2.0 like the specs say.
Using the camera is probably the last thing I use my phone for. I would think that someone would have created a camera app where you can change all the settings you want and save that profile then make as many profiles as you want for various situations.
I do not use my phone as a camera either . Actually I am surprised ( at myself ) why I spent so much time testing it out ! Anyway, I found an app called 'Open Camera' - which seems to have almost all the features I was looking for. It allows me to set ISO and AF-lock - and actually saves those settings between launches. It also has a mode where if it is running and you lock the phone, hitting the power button again brings the camera right back . I find that useful because now I can lock the screen between shots - and still get the camera back relatively quickly. Without that I had to leave the screen on, and I was getting a lot of accidental shots. The UI isn't that great looking, but it is functional.
Here is the link >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en
Shodan5150 said:
Using the camera is probably the last thing I use my phone for. I would think that someone would have created a camera app where you can change all the settings you want and save that profile then make as many profiles as you want for various situations.
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Pretty sure Camera Zoom FX does what you are talking about. I made it the default camera app. It was free on amazon however at some point or another I purchased it on google play for $0.10. A special promo where a bunch of apps were $0.10 each I think. Anyway might want to check it or camera360 out....opencamera is a nice free open source one (If I remember right).
My primary usage for the camera on my phones is to run the paperkarma app so I can submit junkmail to have my name/address removed from their mailing lists. Has helped to thin the junkmail down over time.
I haven't used the camera too much but I am not disappointed in it so far. For the price, I can't complain. It seems to take the pics fairly quickly which is a good thing.
open camera is also good ive tried it and no problems for me
Has anyone found ANY camera app that allows you to save the pics to the SD card? I've tried a bunch yet they all complain that KK(!) doesn't allow saving to SD card YET the stock camera app does allow it.
ItsDon said:
Has anyone found ANY camera app that allows you to save the pics to the SD card? I've tried a bunch yet they all complain that KK(!) doesn't allow saving to SD card YET the stock camera app does allow it.
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In my case - both 'A Better Camera' and 'Open Camera' were unable to save to the external micro SD. It does not bother me, because it is probably better for the camera to write directly to internal storage , in the interest of speed. I can always move those files using ES File Explorer - or by plugging the phone in.
ISO_HJR
I think I found another trick that can help the picture quality with the Camera. The 'Open Camera' app supports an ISO setting called 'ISO_HJR' - HJR stands for Hand Jitter Reduction, and it is Google's way of bumping up the ISO while keeping the shutter fast, to prevent blur due to shake. I used that to take some picture under overcast conditions today, and I was pleasantly surprised with the results. The exif on the pictures say that the ISO is bumped upwards of 400 - but the picture does not appear to be too grainy . I am not sure what exactly is going on , but this seems like a good option to use.
Also 'Open Camera' allows me to save with a JPEG compression of 100% - This results in 8MB+ files for each picture .
Currently my ZE500KL stock camera app with manual control can only control certain range of camera settings, currently the range is:
iso: 50-800
shutter speed: 32s-1/1000s
it is possible to widen the range of ISO and shutter speed in camera app? lets say iso 3200, shutter speed of 1/2000s. because in auto mode, iso 3200 is possible and shutter speed faster than 1/1000s is also possible (from the exif data of image i've taken), of course the system automatically set it, but it would be nice if we have access to change it manually up to iso 3200 and faster shutter speed, because 1/1000s even with iso 50 is quite bright under the sunlight. i am a fan of manual mode, so if there is any way to mod the camera, please share with us :highfive: i believe im not the only one who need a wider manual control of the camera :victory:
i have tried several camera app with manual control such as Manual Camera but it is not compatible, so im sticking with stock camera.
Saw some really great pics in the pics thread. Awesome work but I have not seen much in terms of goto optimum settings G4 owners use. Thought this would be an interesting thread.
Kindly post:
- App you use if other than stock (there are G5 and V10 camera apps and others)
- Manual settings for daytime indoor, outdoor, low light and night time shots
- Or automatic settings that you may prefer to find the right balance of quality for all situations.
- other tweaks/tips
Kindly share so that we can all get the best possible pics out of our G4s.
I use Manual Mode on the V10 camera app:
ISO: 50 (always)
All the other settings, depends on the time of the day (or night ) and if is indoor ou outside, but ISO is always on the min !