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Intel announced MeeGo's death, now they will develop Tizen OS from MeeGo an LiMo (two good project but never finished...)
I'm sure someone here will try to port Tizen OS let's wait...
MeeGo was a great project but it was not well supported by Intel....
We will se, maybe our devs will do some miracle, and then "Tizen OS" will be usable in hd2
bartass127 said:
We will se, maybe our devs will do some miracle, and then "Tizen OS" will be usable in hd2
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I hope so, I might even try to do it myself ( since I was unable to do meego's, it always gave me an error somehow. )
And hopefully, it will be full of life
soo hey! you should try ! and give feedback quickly as soon as it possible !
I do not know why they keep doing this to Maemo. First it was to Meego, then it is to Tizen. Seriously, you will find the same problem with Tizen... not enough support from the foundation and no device that will push its development up. Unless Bada ends up with Tizen, don't expect much from the SDK which will only be released in Q1 of 2012, the earliest. I suspect it is going to be Meego all over again, lack of drivers developed because there is no device committed to the OS, etc.
Sigh... Don't get your hopes up for 2011 for this to be on HD2, or even on 2012. Let's hope the N9's Meego version would be useful for dev work on the HD2.
erlern said:
I do not know why they keep doing this to Maemo. First it was to Meego, then it is to Tizen. Seriously, you will find the same problem with Tizen... not enough support from the foundation and no device that will push its development up. Unless Bada ends up with Tizen, don't expect much from the SDK which will only be released in Q1 of 2012, the earliest. I suspect it is going to be Meego all over again, lack of drivers developed because there is no device committed to the OS, etc.
Sigh... Don't get your hopes up for 2011 for this to be on HD2, or even on 2012. Let's hope the N9's Meego version would be useful for dev work on the HD2.
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of course for Tizen OS (if ever will be finished) we have to wait summer 2012
n9 meego is not the intel one (meego 1.1/1.2), it's like an other system, and it's available only for 1 phone, with different hw from hd2, so i think it's impossible to port meego from N9 nokia done a great work with N9, and MeeGo is now dead, what a shame...
i think we have to wait a new Linux OS based that runs on snapdragon phones...
pirlano said:
of course for Tizen OS (if ever will be finished) we have to wait summer 2012
n9 meego is not the intel one (meego 1.1/1.2), it's like an other system, and it's available only for 1 phone, with different hw from hd2, so i think it's impossible to port meego from N9 nokia done a great work with N9, and MeeGo is now dead, what a shame...
i think we have to wait a new Linux OS based that runs on snapdragon phones...
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Somehow this seems interesting to read concerning Nokia and Linux: http://mynokiablog.com/2011/09/29/l...power-future-nokia-feature-phones-meego-lite/
Only Time can tell what will happen!
Tizen Alpha source is released along with SDK.
I'm looking forward to this one!
To my eyes now, Tizen SO it seems another hilariously short aventure that will be dead in a year.
Alphas, betas, ideas....We want some think real and continuous.
http://www.netbooknews.com/47197/nokia-working-on-two-new-low-end-meego-smartphones/
Any devs planning on porting this to the N9? Since Jolla is based of Meego (I Think?).
l.Urker said:
Any devs planning on porting this to the N9? Since Jolla is based of Meego (I Think?).
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They said that the N9 can be flash on sailfish but there will be no support provide by Jolla.
Plus, you can find some video with the N950 running sailfish. As the N950 have the same hardware as the N9 so it is compatible.
Please do. I heart my n9 so much...
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There'll eventually be a community port of Sailfish*, don't expect it to be very reliable/slick though, there'll be some things that never work properly.
This has all been explained time & time again, I'm not going into the back story as-to-why all this is true, the information is out there.
*not Jolla's flavour, just the stock version of Sailfish, which means it'll be quite bare-bones compared Jolla's Sailfish (initially anyway).
oh thanks for all the replies. my N9 is just collecting dust right now. whats the difference between jolla sailfish and normal one?
Swyped from my M9704
l.Urker said:
oh thanks for all the replies. my N9 is just collecting dust right now. whats the difference between jolla sailfish and normal one?
Swyped from my M9704
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Jolla is the name of the company..
Sailfish is the name of the operating system
Do we have any news on this?
Still now, don't seen any port from Jolla..
even SDK is out..
But I really like to see Jolla port to N9.. :good:
any news about this?
and anyone has stock sailfish on n9?
Chyea!
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Just to clarify things.
There is this company called Jolla. They make this operating system called SailfishOS which in fact is Mer.
So what is Mer? Mer is an operating system without hardware layer and UX. This means it's useless because it won't run on any hardware. You need the hardware layer which means drivers und you probably need the UX which means the GUI. This 3 parts together give you an operating system that you can use on your hardware. An example of this is SailfishOS.
If you take Mer and add the Hardware layer for the Jolla device and then the Sailfish Silica UI you get SailfishOS. The only other iteration of SailfishOS which exists is the one with the hardware layer for the Nokia N950. This will never be released as an official or supported Version.
So for all you guys waiting for a port of SailfishOS for device xyz. This won't happen. There is only one thing that could possible become reality and that's a leaked, unsupported beta image of SailfishOS for the Nokia N950/N9. Maybe this image will be the same which we saw in early demos of SailfishOS.
So the rule is as follows:
Even if you get all the linux drivers (not Android) for Mer so that you could possibly run Mer on your device you still need the UX. Jolla won't give you their Sailfish UI. You could use the Nemo mobile UI that is similar to it but the Sailfish UI will only be available on official Jolla devices.
But let's dream a little bit. If you really get Linux drivers for your device xyz and the Jolla device is out there and it has nearly the same hardware as your device it could be possible that you take all the packages that contain the Sailfish Silica UI and install them on your own device with Mer and your own hardware layer. This is possible in theory. In reality I don't think we will see a usable port that can be your daily driver.
An exchange which should help folks understand why there's no images*: http://pastie.org/private/lgldc4h3dikjkqc9nxecaq
They've said once they have one or more devices shipping, they'll probably start to open Sailfish much more, but not a minute before, for several reasons.
But that doesn't mean they'll also start to support images for 3rd-party devices, they'll probably never do that to the degree Canonical does, see the above.
*original source for that pastie
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1941044&p=48#r950
Jolla will be ported to N9. It won't hava all the functions, that on the Jolla device (for ex. no Voice control...anyway who needs it?), but it will be officially released around september/october 2013. So be patient
Giorgio84 said:
Jolla will be ported to N9. It won't hava all the functions, that on the Jolla device (for ex. no Voice control...anyway who needs it?), but it will be officially released around september/october 2013. So be patient
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For real? or just your wish?
Is there an ETA?
Is there an ETA on when someone could make some early progress on this project? I'm worried that people are losing so much interest that a preview version of Sailfish running on the N9 might be a great idea to get people wanting more of the Meego successor.
That way, people would be falling in love with Sailfish and since it would have a significant spec-bump over the N9, people would be willing to buy it for the screen/display improvement, the "other half," and the great UI.
Giorgio84 said:
Jolla will be ported to N9. It won't hava all the functions, that on the Jolla device (for ex. no Voice control...anyway who needs it?), but it will be officially released around september/october 2013. So be patient
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Do you have any source for this info? Because there is no official announcement that hit my attention.
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Is there an ETA on when someone could make some early progress on this project?
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As always "when it's done". Please stop asking for ports. Just wait until Jolla came out with there first device. I'm sure there will be ports and adaptions all over the place once the Software gets in the hands of the right guys. And this community or t.m.o is prbably the first place to know it. But asking for it every second won't let that happen earlier.
Hello friends ..
No new news??
SDK when the operating system was released.
Test video of the operating system on it is N9. Why not port the operating system to handset N9 its wonderful ...
Please help developers...
maxomid said:
Hello friends ..
No new news??
SDK when the operating system was released.
Test video of the operating system on it is N9. Why not port the operating system to handset N9 its wonderful ...
Please help developers...
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The SDK didn't include the full version of the Sailfish OS. It only contains a basic emulator for apps. So until Jolla releases a phone with Sailfish, it is impossible to port
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tbo-art said:
The SDK didn't include the full version of the Sailfish OS. It only contains a basic emulator for apps. So until Jolla releases a phone with Sailfish, it is impossible to port
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Thanks for the answer
Will be released in full when it is SDk?
Why developers do not work on this phone Nitdroid ROM Port ... Time to full Android experience on these phones ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342102
Hi, i want to share this post from a Jolla engineer giving tips to start porting Sailfish:
I'm pretty sure I phrased it a bit different So, both the N900 and N9 have the problem of having binary blobs, which Jolla is not allowed to distribute, and almost certainly never will be. The N9 additionally has the problem of having an older kernel than the N900 -- old enough that it's starting to cause problems. That's the reason why I probably mentioned N900.
As for Nemo and N9, Nemo is a community followup project of MeeGo, and as such inherited basic N9 hardware adaptation, and the right to redistribute those binary blobs. So, if you as user take a Nemo image and put Jolla stuff in there it works -- but we as Jolla can't do that.
Another problem is that the old N9 adaptation is based on X11, while we are using Wayland. We do have a proof of concept Wayland stack up on N9 (available through Nemo as well), but it has its fair shair of problems.
That we're using Wayland makes your suggestion of porting Sailfish libraries to Harmattan hard as well: Harmattan is an X11 stack (same in the different direction: you can't use a Harmattan binary on Sailfish. If you have the source porting is trivial -- unless it's using meegotouch. But if you only have a binary it won't run. In theory something hacking with xwayland might be possible, but that's pretty crazy, and a sailfish port/rewrite would almost certainly be the better option)
So, it should be pretty clear by now that we will not do N9 images. What needs to happen for community to be able to do the port? Easy: Get involved in Nemo. I mentioned that several times, though so far nobody showed interest.
It's mainly 3 areas that need work:
- finish port to the 3.5 kernel we started. The required tasks are in Nemos Bugzilla
- start fixing bugs in the Wayland proof-of-concept for N9
- reverse engineer hardware components where no driver exists, and do drivers (like GPS)
So, it's a hard task, but not impossible. The Nemo community and Jolla provided a very good starting point with Nemo, now it's up to community members to step up, and continue.
SOURCE: TMO
New Sailfish OS will Support 3G calling and Skype Video Call Facility in Nokia N9. This is the one of main requirements also i like to know how better with Battery life. I try with Nitroid! - Android 4.1.1_r2 (JellyBean) very poor battery life.
I'm waiting Sailfish OS. Grade work by Jolla team. looks very friendly OS :good:
Sailfish is not intended for the N9, it's intended for Jolla's hw 1st & foremost, N9 is Nokia's responsibility.
A slightly different flavour of Sailfish (not Jolla's twist) will eventually be available thanks to the community.
But it won't be a seamless/slick experience, & it's likely it never will be...
My concern is, that the biggest problem is rapu. Nokia propiertary power ic, that controls bus and i/o, it will be a legal mess, just as nitdroid suffered from it, altough, i think sailfish has all the ofono dev team in it... So they just know it as their own thurf...
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I've long since pretty much given up on video chatting on my N9, but hopefully the former Meego team will be able to make this happen for us.
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The Wait is Over: Jolla Releases Sailfish OS 1.0 and is Now Ready to
Scale up Globally
Not much else to say ATM
aliander said:
The Wait is Over: Jolla Releases Sailfish OS 1.0 and is Now Ready to
Scale up Globally
Not much else to say ATM
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That's great news! However, I am a little bit confused about this sentence: "The Sailfish community has already ported Sailfish OS into several devices including major versions of popular Samsung Galaxy, Google Nexus, and Sony Xperia". I didn't see these ports and I try to keep a look out. Where are they?
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That's great news! However, I am a little bit confused about this sentence: "The Sailfish community has already ported Sailfish OS into several devices including major versions of popular Samsung Galaxy, Google Nexus, and Sony Xperia". I didn't see these ports and I try to keep a look out. Where are they?
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Yeah, was wondering quite the same.
Hopefully there will be some more info on that at/after WMC
aliander said:
Yeah, was wondering quite the same.
Hopefully there will be some more info on that at/after WMC
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I obviously hope they know what they're talking about, but it looks like someone was too hasty and wrote this before it actually happened. I'm very excited to see the release and try porting it when it comes out on some Nexus. It would be great if they released a zip from the Nexus 4 build at MWC.
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I obviously hope they know what they're talking about, but it looks like someone was too hasty and wrote this before it actually happened. I'm very excited to see the release and try porting it when it comes out on some Nexus. It would be great if they released a zip from the Nexus 4 build at MWC.
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From reading the press release it appears as if they will release the software for said android devices in the latter half of 2014. I would guess that it mostly works (in house and perhaps for "community" of users with close ties to Jolla) but they are not quite there yet. Otherwise it would be available now. I'd also be interested in seeing how their Sailfish Launcher works. Sailfish does multitasking in a different fashion than android. Wonder how they handle that.
I actually decided to buy the Jolla phone. I live in the US and doubt I'll use it as daily drive since the data will be poor. But I don't mind supporting the company. I'd like to see them succeed.
I'm really curious about Sailfish OS and how it feels in your hand.
Sailfish OS downloadable to existing Android devices
Sailfish OS has been developed to be compatible with commonly available Android hardware platforms. Due to this advanced technology, Jolla is introducing the Sailfish OS experience as downloadable software to devices running Android OS. Users can soon start to enjoy the modern, gesture based Sailfish OS in selected Android devices and also renew the lifecycle of their existing older Android devices.
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This will be a good way to give Android users a 'taste' of sailfish without actually committing to it.
Daycrawler said:
That's great news! However, I am a little bit confused about this sentence: "The Sailfish community has already ported Sailfish OS into several devices including major versions of popular Samsung Galaxy, Google Nexus, and Sony Xperia". I didn't see these ports and I try to keep a look out. Where are they?
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Don`t know what do they mean by port to Sony Xperia
Some videos of the Jolla phone at MWC 2014
Here is a "other half" with sensors that makes the Jolla logo light up different colors based on orientation, proximity or flash to alert of a call and you can wave your hand over it to answer with speakerphone or smother it to reject the call.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdjL8UYaJ34#t=0
I think this is in Italian showing the angry birds other half
http://youtu.be/8S-DugPlvt8
^He doesn't really show much of the OS let's see if we can find another video that shows some of the new features that are coming with the latest update.
Jolla girl demoing the Jolla (in Finnish I'm assuming). This is the latest version of the OS. You will notice some new features like landscape, tethering, fading screen feedback and lock animation
http://jollasuomi.fi/sailfish-kayttojarjestelma-1-0-4-1-ohijarvi-bongattu-jollassavideo/
Engadget interview with Marc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnB_BXfMreQ#t=66
Phone demo starts at 1:06 so link starts at 1:06
A community member 3d printed and assembled an OLED other half.
http://youtu.be/dLolLNn1WMM
This is the table of other devices running SailFish OS (sounds like Russian to me)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxWd20JfcU0#t=51
Also in case you haven't seen the latest Nexus 4 sailfish video.
http://youtu.be/oEsNZdcw_cU
Hi,
the Fairphone 2 is a great project, not only from the hardware point of view as described here https://www.fairphone.com/2015/11/1...-57926297&mc_cid=cc7b173be9&mc_eid=dce1b63bfa, especially from ethical point of view. The final aim of the project shares many principles with Mozilla. Unfortunately, at the moment the official OS for the Fairphone 2 is Android based and there is also a working progress in order to port Sailfish OS https://fairphone.zendesk.com/hc/en...m-OS-will-the-Fairphone-2-run-How-open-is-it-. What about Firefox OS support? In my opinion, this is a crucial to make the Fairphone 2 really fair.
Thank you
I agree!!
Deedend said:
I agree!!
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I found this thread in the Fairphone forum https://forum.fairphone.com/t/firefox-os-is-the-way-to-go/3116/24.
You can vote on bugzilla for a porting of Firefox OS on Fairphone https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113964225, at the moment we are nearly ten
In the meantime, you can try the emulator of Firefox OS 2.5 for Android https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/2.5/
Finally, I asked directly to Fairphone support and they said to me that are talking with Mozilla in order to port Firefox OS. So great new!!!