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I looked today and my HTC One S is currently going for around £200 on auction sites. Considering the massive spec difference someone would get by spending an extra £70 and picking up a brand new Nexus 4 do you think the second hand market will be affected by it's release?
I know that if I had £200 to spend I wouldn't be looking at second hand flagship phones from other manufacturers unless they were way cheaper.
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I looked today and my HTC One S is currently going for around £200 on auction sites. Considering the massive spec difference someone would get by spending an extra £70 and picking up a brand new Nexus 4 do you think the second hand market will be affected by it's release?
I know that if I had £200 to spend I wouldn't be looking at second hand flagship phones from other manufacturers unless they were way cheaper.
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That depends on how many Nexus 4 sells worldwide. Generally Nexus devices are not as popular as the OEM flagships and google also does not push for more sales with huge marketing campaigns. That said, I believe Nexus 4 will sell much better that it's predecessors and it will have only a slight impact on the price of other phones.
Imo only in the play store markets. In other countries no, because its price will be the same as the other flagships.
Hopefully. I'm taking both Galaxy Nexus and (hopefully, if nothing major screws up) Nexus 4 back to China in December. I'm hoping to get some decent money out of my Galaxy Nexus.
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That depends on how many Nexus 4 sells worldwide. Generally Nexus devices are not as popular as the OEM flagships and google also does not push for more sales with huge marketing campaigns. That said, I believe Nexus 4 will sell much better that it's predecessors and it will have only a slight impact on the price of other phones.
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Google did a pretty good job advertising the Nexus 7. I read an article somewhere that Google & ASUS were selling over 1,000,000 N7 tablets a month.
The Galaxy S3 at Best Buy went to $250 trade in down from $300 last week.
But Best Buy had a sale on the S3 last week. Plus prices drop all the time. No real reason.
I put my Gnex on eBay as soon as I saw the price of the N4. I figured that as soon as news of the N4 prices filtered down to used Gnex buyers, then it would depress the price of the phone.
The jury is still out whether it will affect non Nexus phone prices in the short term, but I'm sure that top end phones will become far cheaper over time because of this move.
So, my Gnex has now gone, and I'm back on my old Desire, at first I thought I'd gone back to the stone age, but a decent Miui based ROM sorted that out...to an extent.
Since it's currently Google Play only that have those prices, i doubt it will have any real effect on prices in general
It's sad, i was hoping we could get back to the day where iPhone was the "only smartphone" and Android was trying to gain market share, back then the prices for android highend smartphones were around 400€.
But as Android gained popularity it started jumping up to 500€, and now 600€.
It's no secret that the phones themselves cost around 200$ to make, so i'm really hoping that someone will still taking notice to Google's Prices, especially as they start expanding across europe.
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I'm ready for swapping out my old HTC Desire S, and one of the options is the Nexus 4 of course. While looking here in Norway, it seems that nobody is selling the phone anymore. I remember browsing around in early July and there were plenty of places selling them. But now it's hard to come by. As examples:
1) The biggest operator (Telenor) used to sell it, but the page is gone.
2) On online store (teknikmagasinet.no) states that the product has been discontinued
There's also that famous article from the Inquirer saying back in July that the device was gone from one big seller in the UK.
Could this be it? Could it be the end of the Nexus 4, foretelling the Nexus 5? I would like to know because if this is the case, then I can wait a couple of months.
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Well new phone is coming out in q4 for sure.
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Hi,
Very likely there is going to be a new nexus launched in the coming few months. Nonetheless the n4 is a great phone. You'd do well either to buy the next one new when it's released or else get a second hand one at that point - lots of people will trade up & eBay their old n4, I reckon.
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Thank you for your replies. Then it seems I'll hold it. Either new Nexus or second hand N4. :good:
I'm not quite sure but if the new nexus comes out on america at the end of this year, it will probably be sold out. It'll take some extra months until it te reaches Europe.
It's back again! Nexus 4, here I come !! :laugh:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/21/lg-release-g-pad-tablet-more-overseas-markets.html
Gee, I wonder why sales are below expected in the US? Could it be Best Buy's epic failure at promoting the product? The people at BB should be running the NSA; they're better at keeping secrets.
Maybe LG should just rename it the Area 51 Pad...lots of people have heard of it but BB continues to deny it's existence.
No kidding! The Best Buy help weren't aware of it and took forever to find it in "the cage".
LG has officially jumped the shark.
I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
Ya, BB has this thing in their phone department next to the G2. Like what?
They need this over with the other tablets, let alone the other 8" tablets. Luckily I knew where to look so i can get a hands on before deciding on a purchase online
The two BB near me do not even have it out in the phone area they have a picture of it in the G2 display but not the actual device.
It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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I got mine on release date. They didn't have any on display and only one left in stock (other than the one that the guy tried to sell me the display unit and then noticed the computer said it was $1000 for it).
I visited my local Best Buy last night and they still don't have it on display (in tablet or phone area) or in stock. I really don't understand why LG has dropped the ball on this but it seems to be in line with about every other mobile company minus Apple and Samsung. Every display other than the Apple and Samsung displays looked cheap and run down. The Nexus 7 display looked fine, but they have a demo running on all of their models so you can't even get a real feel for how it works. If LG would put a nice display in the tablet area, these things would sell fast. I just hope enough sell to have a decent development community.
LG must not. want to be successful. they had it on display only at. best buy with the mobile phones. No advertising, ovepriced and lackluster support.
Whose poor ideas were this? only. 1 retailer in the US?
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Apparently, US sucks *JOKE*
Here in Europe you can get your G Pad in 95% of all the electronics shops. Its really strange what's going on in the US...
I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
I'm no stranger to Android (although I haven't spent a great deal of time on the latest hardware such as the HTC One, G2 or Galaxy S4) but I was always a little disappointed by the promise of "buttery smooth performance" from the Jellybean. I have a One X and also another tablet from Pipo running the RK3188 so it's no slouch but both are not what I would call a smooth experience (although my One X became a heck of a lot better after flashing Cyanogenmod). I originally came from iPhones and iPads so I was very disappointed in this regard.
Now with the G Pad, I finally know what "buttery smooth" feels like on an Android. The machine is just incredible with next to no interface lag at all and all the apps zip around without any effort. The Wi-Fi strength is also incredible, picking up my router from distances that my One X, iPad mini or iPhone 4S could never have.
For the sake of LG, I hope it really does well. They deserve it and will hopefully release more products like this in the future.
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I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
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As you pointed out low stock could mean heavy selling or it could mean low stock. Considering the way it started off in the US, i.e., few retailers and high prices, I'm inclined to think that LG does not have a lot of capacity to manufacture the units. Currently, we're seeing more discounting in the US and few more options for retailers, but it is still not widely sold. Could be that the situation will get better as they produce more units.
Awesome tablet but I just returned mine to BestBuy. I've been burnt before buy buying a killer device that no one else bought. Software updates don't come and accessories don't fit. Very sad that LG made this ridiculous exclusive distribution deal.
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It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
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I'm moving to the G Pad from the Lenovo A2109. A great device for the money...
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I played with one at best buy in southern il today it was next to the lg g2. I think I'll love this thing it's the perfect size and seems fast. I figure I'll keep for at least a year maybe longer if no one comes out with a better 8 inch tab. Samsung's note screen sucks I also looked at it today.
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I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
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Well Said Mark..
Even though they had no choice but to drop the price, still BestBuy does not even display it.
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BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
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Well Said Woody.
Fast forward to the present and it's still the same.. BestBuy could care less about this Tablet.. a lot of sales reps still don't know about it and it's still to this day not on display..
And that's sad.
I have posted similar thoughts about lack of promotion and availability for this tablet in other forums. It's very strange to have such a product available only at one B&M retailer (BB), and one online store (Newegg), and as a GPE version. With that approach you would think LG would have dumped a bunch of money into promoting the G Pad at BB. I've seen enough complaints in the reviews at Newegg (and elsewhere for units purchased from Newegg) to think they were chosen to handle the returns, refurbished units, and otherwise 'unclean' units.
Having said that, our BB started displaying a black version and a white version G Pad a couple of weeks ago. Last week they price matched Newegg's $280 for the black version for me when they were selling theirs for $350. The sales rep I got knew all about the G Pad and started trying to sell me on it but I already knew everything I needed to know.
Now VerizonWireless has started to sell it as well, with LTE. That could be a breakthrough for this tablet, especially with the pricing model they have ($100 with a 2 year contract through tomorrow, $149 after that, and $300 with no contract). Those prices are pretty enticing, I think, especially compared to BB's $350 everyday price for the WiFi only model. It will be interesting to see what happens with this tablet now that VW is in the picture.
Another thought. I've wondered, especially since the GPE came out, if maybe the G Pad is a trial run for a Nexus 8 replacement for the Nexus 7 and maybe a new Nexus 10 as well that a lot of folks are waiting for. Google got a lot of heat for the issues many folks had with the Gen2 Nexus 7 built by ASUS. Maybe they are testing the waters with LG for their next generation Nexus tablets and they and LG aren't necessarily concerned about how much money they make from this one. Just a thought.
Hi from Mexico.
After today announcements I get really excited about the new phone regardless the high price, bet then they start to list the countries where the phone will be available: U.S., Australia, Canada, Germany,UK and India.
And that's it, no mention of other countries or even a plan for release the phone anywhere else. I was thinking that now they're moved on from the Nexus philosophy, their approach for the new G flagship would be different, but is has the same pattern as before.
I hope that Google can make possible to purchase the phone in any place, as you know, their main competitor . You could buy the new iPhone almost immediately after the announcement, IMO that's a shame for Google.
So, right now I do want the phone, but I would need to start looking where can I buy it or look for another option, like the V20 or even the Nexus 6P.
Thanks for reading!
I feel the same as you. Only two Nexus devices were officially released here in Brazil were LG Nexus 4 and 5. Cheapest version of Nexus 6P that I can find here amounts to about US$ 620 at a Brazilian Ebay-like website. I'm going to wait for Google Pixel to arrive at the same website, because I've lost hopes of the phone being released here.
I'm also on the same boat... I don't understand why Google just abandoned so many countries... and also this phone is not selling on usual retailers, for ex Amazon (directly).
I don't understand why... didn't they want world domination?! pfff
My local best buy seems to never have anything in the phone world unless it costs $500 plus even when the website says so. I rather have the G5S Plus but will take a G5 Plus 32GB. Moto says it's sold out of the gray g5s plus. So what stores would you suggest I go look at locally? I'm in a city of 200K so we have the usual stores here. Seems like retailers rather get you inside a store rather than say they are out of stock. My current phone has a fully busted screen so I much rather have a new device asap tomorrow morning. Phone will be used on Metro pcs / T-Mobile network
Thanks in advance
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My local best buy seems to never have anything in the phone world unless it costs $500 plus even when the website says so. I rather have the G5S Plus but will take a G5 Plus 32GB. Moto says it's sold out of the gray g5s plus. So what stores would you suggest I go look at locally? I'm in a city of 200K so we have the usual stores here. Seems like retailers rather get you inside a store rather than say they are out of stock. My current phone has a fully busted screen so I much rather have a new device asap tomorrow morning. Phone will be used on Metro pcs / T-Mobile network
Thanks in advance
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Target and Walmart are both selling the phone in my area. Give them both a call and see what they have in stock in your area.
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My local best buy seems to never have anything in the phone world unless it costs $500 plus even when the website says so. I rather have the G5S Plus but will take a G5 Plus 32GB. Moto says it's sold out of the gray g5s plus. So what stores would you suggest I go look at locally? I'm in a city of 200K so we have the usual stores here. Seems like retailers rather get you inside a store rather than say they are out of stock. My current phone has a fully busted screen so I much rather have a new device asap tomorrow morning. Phone will be used on Metro pcs / T-Mobile network
Thanks in advance
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Not sure where you live, but I live in a rural state and am over 400 miles from any city over 500k or so, and the only place I have found this device is at BestBuy... Almost every BestBuy store stocks it around here, even in Bismarck, ND, they have 13 phones under $200.
I have never had much luck at Target or Walmart for phones, all they carry around here is branded pre-paid devices.
If you live in a bigger city, you have some more options... B&H Photo, MicroCenter, or Fry's Electronics may carry this or something else like it in store.
If you absolutely need it tomorrow, might need to do some digging on Best Buy... Some other options would be Axon 7 Mini (my son has had this phone a year or so, it is extremely under-rated device, nicer than my G5 Plus in most regards for $100 less), Blu R1 Plus (there is a BB exclusive model, almost every store carries it), Asus ZenFone 3 Max, or ZTE Blade V8 Pro. Just about every BestBuy I have seen in the 8 states I travel to frequently stock at least a dozen unlocked >$300 phones, but you often have to dig for them as they aren't always out in the open. I deal with Best Buy a lot, it isn't uncommon in some areas to have to show the person working there the app and say "you have this somewhere and I would like to buy it now, can you find it for me?" and they usually come up with it in some back room stock or something.
Otherwise, as much as I hate to say it, but overnight shipping from Amazon might be worth it.
I was going to start a new thread but the subject thread still applies...
In 2019 does anyone know where to find a 4GB/64GB XT1687? Motorola no longer sells it, Amazon only has their Amazon Prime with locked down bootloader. Third parties aren't forthcoming about what they're offering.
I live in California and purchased one from a fellow Californian but once I got it it turned out to be the Amazon version. Bah! Anyone know of any sellers selling the regular Motorola version.
I like playing with older ROMs. My daily driver since 2014 has been a LG G3. I run and multiboot between KitKat through Oreo ROMs. Fun stuff but I've been through three of those. They fail for one reason or another.
I have other devices but they're either Oreo+ or just too much trouble when going from one Android version to another. Potter has/had googobs of development so there's always something to play with. Granted, Nougat+ I believe but that's cool.
If anyone knows of any reliable sellers for the phone I'd appreciate any pointers.
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If anyone knows of any reliable sellers for the phone I'd appreciate any pointers.
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I saw a few on ebay the other day. That's where I'd get mine from if I wanted another today.
Don't buy them all though so I can have one when my current one dies! :laugh:
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I saw a few on ebay the other day. That's where I'd get mine from if I wanted another today.
Don't buy them all though so I can have one when my current one dies! [emoji23]
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LOL. Okay, I'll try to control myself.
Thanks, I haven't been on eBay in a long time. Will take a look. N1wireless has the phone but I suspect it's Amazon so sent a mail to their sales group. A week later and they haven't responded. Not a good sign.
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Need to look very close at phones listed on eBay. I bought a ""New-In-Box!" phone a few weeks ago that was not new at all. Of course the same thing with Amazon, lot of people have complained about getting refurbishes (or worse) phones when the listing said "new". If you find something you like on eBay or Amazon, contact the seller before you buy! And/or at least read some of the seller reviews., especially looking for any negative ones.
About a month ago I got super-lucky and found a definitely-new 64gb G5 Plus on Swappa, for $160. Yeah like I said, super-lucky.
Like acejavelin said a while back . . .
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. . . has been known to have the exact phone I was looking for at a competitive price, online ordering.
But if you're not looking for new, I would recommend checking Swappa first. Right this minute they have two "Mint" G5 Pluses listed, and a "Good" phone with 64gb. I've bought several phones on Swappa and every one has been what it was advertised to be. They screen sellers and their ads pretty well, and even run a phone's IMEI before approving a listing.
Just a little update. I haven't purchased one yet. B&H Photo has none. Swappa has only one Consumer Cellular phone.
N1Wireless finally got back to me. They said all of theirs are regular Motorola phones, not Amazon Prime models. They still have the 4/64 models, open box, both Gold and Lunar Gray.
Understandably, pickins are gettin' slim for older phones.
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Just a little update. I haven't purchased one yet. B&H Photo has none. Swappa has only one Consumer Cellular phone.
N1Wireless finally got back to me. They said all of theirs are regular Motorola phones, not Amazon Prime models. They still have the 4/64 models, open box, both Gold and Lunar Gray.
Understandably, pickins are gettin' slim for older phones.
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Umm... The regular Moto 4/64 version is the one you want. You don't want a carrier variant or the Amazon one. Color-wise, throw it in a case and be good to go regardless.
At this point the device is two years old though... Why not look at a new Nokia or (if budget allows) Pixel 3a device. One thing we are seeing with later Moto devices is they are really designed to die at 2 years, things start failing quickly especially the battery which is a bugger to replace.
Oh, of course on the first points. Was just mentioning what was out there.
The only reason I was looking at the potter is because I like to play (usually multiboot) with older ROMs, which I prefer. Potter had a grip of goodies to play with.
My main phone has been the LG G3 where I multiboot between KitKat thru Oreo ROMs. Fun stuff. Daily/primary was a fave LP used since 2015. After screen was failing on the third one I started looking at the G5 Plus.
I have other phones (ZTE Axon 7, Moto G5s Plus, Essential PH-1, and little ole Galaxy Light) so not in actual need. I'm sure this fourth G3 will fail in some way shortly, hence the hunt.
Not interested in new phones, or new Androids to be exact. I have no interest in Pie and barely tolerate Oreo. Though I almost got a OnePlus 6T but the IRS snatched up my refund (can't get away from old school loans I guess. LOL).
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