Can I delete system apps if rooted? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to delete all the unwanted system apps if I don't need them, including: Connect, Gallery, Migrate, Play Movies & TV, Play Music, etc... Can I do that if I am rooted, or do I have to flash a custom ROM and a minimal GApps? I want the stock ROM, but prefer a minmal GApps like the Open Gapps (pico).
Thanks!

I am trying to disable a few of them that I don't use... but I am still interested if I could flash the stock ROM but the pico GApps...

With titanium backup you can on stock rom.
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namartlu said:
I want to delete all the unwanted system apps if I don't need them, including: Connect, Gallery, Migrate, Play Movies & TV, Play Music, etc... Can I do that if I am rooted, or do I have to flash a custom ROM and a minimal GApps? I want the stock ROM, but prefer a minmal GApps like the Open Gapps (pico).
Thanks!
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namartlu said:
I am trying to disable a few of them that I don't use... but I am still interested if I could flash the stock ROM but the pico GApps...
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I highly suggest you startby freezing each aplication insteadof deleting the app. Freezing completely disables the app while the app is still installed on ur phone, but does not run. If you delete an app and it causes issues then you would have to go back to stock

Another vote for titanium Backup, if you are rooted.
Just freeze the apps you consider to be bloatware, and they will remain disabled (and will not appear in the applications tray). The benefit of this is that you can easily unfreeze those apps if you ever decide to use them again
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[Q] Removing Google apps off KitKat

Hi All,
I'm looking to remove many of the google apps off my rooted nexus 4. I'm currently running stock KitKat 4.4.2 straight from OTA update.
Many apps such as google drive, google+, hangouts, play games etc I won't be using, yet they are taking up space in my phone.
How can I permanently remove these off my phone? Can it be done? through CWR? through ADB?
If this is not possible, do I need to flash an AOSP custom ROM? I've not opted for this route so far as it's a pain to swap over apps and themes onto a new ROM and I want to experiment with eXposed framework too.
Thanks
Hahaboy21 said:
Hi All,
I'm looking to remove many of the google apps off my rooted nexus 4. I'm currently running stock KitKat 4.4.2 straight from OTA update.
Many apps such as google drive, google+, hangouts, play games etc I won't be using, yet they are taking up space in my phone.
How can I permanently remove these off my phone? Can it be done? through CWR? through ADB?
If this is not possible, do I need to flash an AOSP custom ROM? I've not opted for this route so far as it's a pain to swap over apps and themes onto a new ROM and I want to experiment with eXposed framework too.
Thanks
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It is possible, but those system apps take space on your /system partition, which you do you have access to anyways. Deleting the apps won't gain you much space at all.
All you need to do is root.

Want to save more battry and Ram..

Its Very Easy....
1) Use Greenify (We All know About it)
Second Method Is Below.
>Go To
A)Settings
B)Apps
C)Click Any Apps And Select Any Pre Installed App
(Ex.. Google Play Games or Any other app which you Use Rarely)
Now click Disable To Disable It...
Tadaaa its Done.. Now Disable what u want And Save More Battry And Ram.
You Can Also Enable It. :beer:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
Using App Quarantine myself to disable unwanted apps.
If you are rooted you can even freeze apps that usually can not be frozen.
After a restart the apps remain frozen.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Itz For NoN Rooted User (Noob)
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maurocds said:
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
bookworth said:
No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
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so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You can not disable critical system apps. Just try and you will see.
You can disable apps same way from Android too, it is feature.
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what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
iluvatrix said:
what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
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Then you kill play and bunch of other features, not a good idea.
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was just using GSF as a quick example
but back to my original question is it better to enable ALL apps before taking OTA to avoid possible failure?
or will disabled apps still be "seen" during OTA updating?
i have disabled most Motorola apps that can be disabled are they considered critical when updating thru Motorola OTA?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You don't delete anything. You just tell the system not to start or use those apps. And as a worst case scenario, if you screw up something so bad that you can't even use the phone (but by default you cannot disable really critical apps without root and 3rd party software), a factory reset will solve it.
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
Becareful with system applications!
I agree with the previous post...don't remove system applications unless you know it's not going to be linked to anything of use to you, and even then I would do a backup just in-case...having a broken installation of android simply due to having deleted some system app in an attempt to save a few MB of RAM would be...unfortunate.
juliatan said:
Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
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lol really? you better use an iphone
i remove system apps of all my cell phone, and guess what, they work perfect, never had issues
and if i did someday i don't care, why? because you are root, you can recover roms, flash, upgrade, etc
and yes, i give advice to people who bricked their phones and give guides and methods of doing it, because bricking phones and recovering them it part of learning

Remove gapps and replace with gapps from opengapps?

I'm curious if this is possible with the stock rom any of my current attempts seems to fail with apps not being able to load properly.
I'm assuming there are some dependencies and it's not possible to remove all the gapps from the stock rom only to replace them with the apps from opengapps.
main reason is I don't want things like google movies / chrome / the google app and most things that you can get from the app store I rather just install the app store version but I'm thinking that might not be possible or it would be a bad idea to try this on a stock rom. Even if it is rooted.
Why you don’t Just disable this app.
If you are rooted there is a debloater app for stock OOS. You flash it in TWRP, an Aroma installer comes up and you can pick which Google and OP system apps and some non essential services that you would like to uninstall. It works very well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/aroma-oos-debloater-1-0-t3630135/page7
Aroma debloater seems to have been removed but thanks for the link. I'll check around in that forum.
c3drik 67 said:
Why you don’t Just disable this app.
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I already have a lot of the gapps disabled but on my previous phone I was on a custom rom and I prefered just not having the app entirely.

IYPTB Not Installing

I'm on A2017U 7.1.1 B32 TWRP installed and rooted
I've uninstalled the system youtube app and youtube vr
Placed both the installer and apk in the Download Section of my phone
Flashed in TWRP
Nothing shows up. Any suggestions?
kaivorth said:
I'm on A2017U 7.1.1 B32 TWRP installed and rooted
I've uninstalled the system youtube app and youtube vr
Placed both the installer and apk in the Download Section of my phone
Flashed in TWRP
Nothing shows up. Any suggestions?
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If you have Magisk, use the module. The thing os that Android seems to prioritize the app that's in data as opposed to the one on system. So what you have to do for it to work is get a file manager (i recommend the new Root Browser, it's probably the least bloated out there), go to /data/app, then find youtube (maybe com.google.youtube?) and delete the folder. After that just go back one folder and return again, check that it isn't there, and then go to Play Store and deactivate auto-updates (open the app description, and open the 3 dot menu).
If you don't have magisk all that stuff will work. Just remember that if Play Store updates the app you'll lose it until you reboot
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If you have Magisk, use the module. The thing os that Android seems to prioritize the app that's in data as opposed to the one on system. So what you have to do for it to work is get a file manager (i recommend the new Root Browser, it's probably the least bloated out there), go to /data/app, then find youtube (maybe com.google.youtube?) and delete the folder. After that just go back one folder and return again, check that it isn't there, and then go to Play Store and deactivate auto-updates (open the app description, and open the 3 dot menu).
If you don't have magisk all that stuff will work. Just remember that if Play Store updates the app you'll lose it until you reboot
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There isn't a youtube folder where you instructed me to look. I think Titanium Backup removed it on it's own.
I might just have to reinstall this ROM, install Magisk, and use the module. Ugh spent all afternoon/evening unlocking and rooting this thing. Almost there.
Appreciate the feedback
kaivorth said:
There isn't a youtube folder where you instructed me to look. I think Titanium Backup removed it on it's own.
I might just have to reinstall this ROM, install Magisk, and use the module. Ugh spent all afternoon/evening unlocking and rooting this thing. Almost there.
Appreciate the feedback
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What did you do with titanium backup?? Did you uninstall the app after flashing iYTBP?
Try rebooting twice, the app might get replaced
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What did you do with titanium backup?? Did you uninstall the app after flashing iYTBP?
Try rebooting twice, the app might get replaced
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I used Titanium to uninstall the original Youtube app that came with the phone.
I've rebooted twice. Still not showing up in either the App Drawer, or Data/APP folder.
Reinstalled the iYPTB via twrp again, rebooted, and still nothing in either locations.
I'm at a loss, almost ready to go magisk tomorrow.
kaivorth said:
I used Titanium to uninstall the original Youtube app that came with the phone.
I've rebooted twice. Still not showing up in either the App Drawer, or Data/APP folder.
Reinstalled the iYPTB via twrp again, rebooted, and still nothing in either locations.
I'm at a loss, almost ready to go magisk tomorrow.
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You didn't have to do that... It might have uninstalled the /system/app one
One other thing. Use root browser to get to /system/app, find the youtube folder. Check the apk's thumbnail. If it is iytbp's then you almost definitely have com.google.youtube on data or auto-update on play
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You didn't have to do that... It might have uninstalled the /system/app one
One other thing. Use root browser to get to /system/app, find the youtube folder. Check the apk's thumbnail. If it is iytbp's then you almost definitely have com.google.youtube on data or auto-update on play
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It's the original Youtube App. Interesting. What now LOL? Youtube isn't installed anymore. I can't go into the play store and turn off auto update or anything.
kaivorth said:
It's the original Youtube App. Interesting. What now LOL? Youtube isn't installed anymore. I can't go into the play store and turn off auto update or anything.
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So now you don't have any youtube app on /system/app? Install Youtube via play store, then use Apps2SD or Link2SD to make it a system app (TB just can't) and then flash iYTBP again
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So now you don't have any youtube app on /system/app? Install Youtube via play store, then use Apps2SD or Link2SD to make it a system app (TB just can't) and then flash iYTBP again
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Using Link2SD When I click. "Integrate update into system" I get an error "System Device busy or Resource busy"
Update:
Flashed iYPTB again after reinstalling YouTube, and now it's the Vanced version! Awesome! Finally got my phone to where I want it
And yes, I unchecked auto update from the play store
kaivorth said:
There isn't a youtube folder where you instructed me to look. I think Titanium Backup removed it on it's own.
I might just have to reinstall this ROM, install Magisk, and use the module. Ugh spent all afternoon/evening unlocking and rooting this thing. Almost there.
Appreciate the feedback
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That's the problem.
You need to have a working youtube app before flashing the iYPTB zip on TWRP, but you should clear data and cache of this app beforehand.
PS: I also have Magisk but didn't use the module.
aLexzkter said:
That's the problem.
You need to have a working youtube app before flashing the iYPTB zip on TWRP, but you should clear data and cache of this app beforehand.
PS: I also have Magisk but didn't use the module.
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i think we already figured it out :silly:
Choose an username... said:
So now you don't have any youtube app on /system/app? Install Youtube via play store, then use Apps2SD or Link2SD to make it a system app (TB just can't) and then flash iYTBP again
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i think we already figured it out :silly:
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Appreciate the help!
Might just say to heck with it and reinstall everything with magisk next weekend. Working great as is right now though
This is way late but might be helpful in the future.
I've never had luck with the Vanced installer for some reason.
Anyway, awhile back @raystef66 made an installer with the black iYTB which worked perfectly.
Besides installing new builds manually one could also swap out the builds in the installer with a newer one, white or black, I guess.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3688725
[A2017G][TWRP-ZIP]iYTB ADFree Black Themed
ZTE Axon 7 A2017U, Dark ROM, Llama Sweet Kernel, microG (NoGapps),, Multiboot, Tapatalk 4.9.5
marcdw said:
This is way late but might be helpful in the future.
I've never had luck with the Vanced installer for some reason.
Anyway, awhile back @raystef66 made an installer with the black iYTB which worked perfectly.
Besides installing new builds manually one could also swap out the builds in the installer with a newer one, white or black, I guess.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3688725
[A2017G][TWRP-ZIP]iYTB ADFree Black Themed
ZTE Axon 7 A2017U, Dark ROM, Llama Sweet Kernel, microG (NoGapps),, Multiboot, Tapatalk 4.9.5
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I used it, it's nice and all but the Magisk module works the same and installs the latest version. Since you use microG you may not have trouble with auto-update, but sometimes I had to reflash the zip if play updated it (Auto update is disabled and still sometimes it just decides to ignore that...)

Playstore keeps on coming back

So I have a qualcomm moto e4 and I rooted it with magisk, The problem is that even though I removed the play store from /system/priv-app and from /data/app, the playstore keeps on coming back magically!
Is their another apk that i should remove to stop this?
greatjack1 said:
So I have a qualcomm moto e4 and I rooted it with magisk, The problem is that even though I removed the play store from /system/priv-app and from /data/app, the playstore keeps on coming back magically!
Is their another apk that i should remove to stop this?
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Dude, no. Your phone won't even function on stock without it. There are a few Google apps that if you remove, phone will just lock up. If you have magisk, use the debloater module and see. If you want to run without gapps, flash a rom and don't flash gapps with it. Stock is dependent on a few of them.
madbat99 said:
Dude, no. Your phone won't even function on stock without it. There are a few Google apps that if you remove, phone will just lock up. If you have magisk, use the debloater module and see. If you want to run without gapps, flash a rom and don't flash gapps with it. Stock is dependent on a few of them.
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It actually functions fine when i fully remove the playstore but then play services stop working. Is their an alternative for play services that does not require app spoofing like micro g?
greatjack1 said:
It actually functions fine when i fully remove the playstore but then play services stop working. Is their an alternative for play services that does not require app spoofing like micro g?
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No - custom ROM or micro g. Look around; if such a solution was viable there would be plenty of banter.

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