I am trying to establish which is those two is best choice overall, in terms of video recording under various conditions. Primariry day shooting, but also in cases with limited light. The ISOCELL is the one founf in the original S5 (G900F) whilst the Sony sensor has appeared in the latest 805 SnapDragon equipped S5 Plus (G901F). I am aware of the improved performance, due to the revised hardware of the G901F over the older S5, but I am mostly interested in using the phone heavily as a camera shooter.
I have read alot around those two different sensors e.g. here (ISOCELL), here (IMX), here (IMX) and here (ISOCELL vs others). But I am still confused at to which of the two is the best choice, based on what I mentioned above. The G900F or the G901F?
Also, I am aware that it's not all about the sensor, but there are other factors to it too e.g. management software. Since the G900F with the ISOCELL has been around more than the Sony-equipped S5 Plus, I guess it's more 'matured' now. Meaning that there might be some 'room for improvement' for the S5 Plus e.g. future firmware updates. Who knows..
Based on what we got now, Is there any quality review or head to head comparison of just those two sensors that I can draw more conclusions from?
Hi there,
As the Camera2 API isn't in the last release of lollipop for the note for (I own the F - European version of it), I was wondering if it was possible to allow Raw (DNG) shooting with a custom ROM or anything else... What do you think ?
Thanks !
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Hi there,
As the Camera2 API isn't in the last release of lollipop for the note for (I own the F - European version of it), I was wondering if it was possible to allow Raw (DNG) shooting with a custom ROM or anything else... What do you think ?
Thanks !
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I think that no at this moment ......I have N910F too, I swapped from N910C before a 2 days but I am very disapointed with camera on F version. There is a too much noise ....photos from C version are sharper.
I sell my Exynos variant due to CM12 possibility on SnapDragon.
AFAIK the n910f and the n910c share exactly the same sensor. So there shouldn't be any difference. Right on your camera's glass Samsung usually put a little piece of flake which you might want to peel off. Maybe that's what makes your shots blurry. Other than that, it might be software settings (or post-processing in case you are on a different version). But the shots should be identical. Cheer on, at least the Snap805 is the better chipset. This big.LITTLE farce is a joke and on the development side you know Samsung will hold their source codes for months before making them publicly available. I have the n910c and it's not that great.
I'm just thinking about buying a Note 4 so I would like to ask if there is any way to implement the Camera2 API to the Note 4 so that I will get manual mode and RAW capture, because I really want these features. Thanks.
No you can't its only Samsung can do but they won't be doing
This makes me feel really sad
yea stupid samsung. Just another way they make users jump to the newer devices even tho our hardware is fine. The Nexus 6 gets raw support with a third party app.
From what I've seen in Unbox Therapy's video the camera app (and especially it's portrait mode) on the Galaxy Note 8 seems to be a lot better. Will there be a port like we saw with the Pixel camera? The note 8 had a model with the SD835 like the op5 and I guess other smartphones with the same type of dual camera setups could benefit from this as well. Will we ever see a port of the app and if not why?
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From what I've seen in Unbox Therapy's video the camera app (and especially it's portrait mode) on the Galaxy Note 8 seems to be a lot better. Will there be a port like we saw with the Pixel camera? The note 8 had a model with the SD835 like the op5 and I guess other smartphones with the same type of dual camera setups could benefit from this as well. Will we ever see a port of the app and if not why?
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I wouldn't hold my breath. TouchWiz is much further away from OOS than Google's version of android. Too many proprietary files on TouchWiz that we wouldn't have access to.
Doubtful, even if it's got the same chipset, it won't have the same cameras. OnePlus usually use Sony cameras (Apparently the main camera is the Sony IMX 398), Samsung will most likely use their own and the software will be designed to fit their own hardware.
Apparently the S7 has a Sony camera though, so....who knows.
Yeah, probably slim to none. Touchwiz is too proprietary
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I am planning to buy the Le Pro 3 x720 and customise it to have a oneplus 3 experience.
The LEx720 and OP3 has the same camera sensor and almost same processor (snapdragon 821 for LEx720 & snapdragon 820 for OP3)
kimovilDOTcom/en/compare/leeco-le-pro-3-6gb-64gb,oneplus-3-6gb-64gb-cn
Yet the x720 camera reviews are less positive in comparison to the OP3. I guess its the processing.
1. So has someone ever tried the Oneplus camera on the LEx720?
apkmirrorDOTcom/apk/oneplus-ltd/oneplus-camera/
2. Is it possible to have some samples comparison please, especially against the google camera?
My alternative choice would be the Meizu M6 Note which boasts the same camera as the HTC U11 and it's working pretty great with its Arcsoft algorithm.
3. Based solely on camera, can the LEx720 deliver a better image quality than the Meizu M6 Note?
I would really appreciate your views.
Thank you all in advance.
I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
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I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
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Is that so? Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought it strange that the camera would work on ROMs installed on some devices but not others.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
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Yeah, Gcam changed everything. Now phones with the worst sensors get decent shots, even at night.