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[Q] Average free memory in Nexus 10

Hi I just got a tablet but its not nexus 10 with 2gb of ram it only has 1gb of ram. I am contemplating on exchanging my tablet for a nexus 10 and I would like to ask you folks out there what on average is the available free ram on a nexus 10?
I think to average it out this post needs to have a lot of input.
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I generally get 400-800 MB free of ram

Looking at free ram is a rather pointless measurement considering Android is Linux, and unix systems go by a "free ram is wasted ram" philosophy. With that said, mine is currently sitting at 541.5MB.

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kilopopo said:
Hi I just got a tablet but its not nexus 10 with 2gb of ram it only has 1gb of ram. I am contemplating on exchanging my tablet for a nexus 10 and I would like to ask you folks out there what on average is the available free ram on a nexus 10?
I think to average it out this post needs to have a lot of input.
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Thanks
Thanks guys now i have an idea of how much memory is available on average.
I wonder if having 2gb is better than having 1gb of ram

Please search first, this question is near pointless and been asked a million times here, but to answer your question more ram never hurts but Android will hardly if ever run into low ram situations with 1gb of total system memory of more. Linux is different than a windows system and likes to use all available ram and when it needs ram for a task will kill tasks that have been idle for too long to free it up so task killers and monitoring free ram are time and battery eating tasks and you will be happier if you kick the habit ASAP
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the nexus 4 has around 1800mb ram and the nexus 10 should have a similar amount

maxorelad said:
the nexus 4 has around 1800mb ram and the nexus 10 should have a similar amount
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Probably not, larger resolution means it needs more dedicated to vram
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ECOTOX said:
Probably not, larger resolution means it needs more dedicated to vram
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It's kind of false advertising then. For example, should I sell my computer as having 10GB of RAM, even though only 8GB is actually usable as System RAM, with the other 2GB as Video RAM? Kind of silly imo... should of just put 2GB in the thing and then a separate dedicated amount for video.
But in any case, is there any actual hard proof this is what is happening? I wouldn't know where to begin to look really, but I'd love to see a section of the kernel code that actually dictates this, instead of just hearing "assumptions"

espionage724 said:
It's kind of false advertising then. For example, should I sell my computer as having 10GB of RAM, even though only 8GB is actually usable as System RAM, with the other 2GB as Video RAM? Kind of silly imo... should of just put 2GB in the thing and then a separate dedicated amount for video.
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When you buy any computer without a dedicated video card you loose ram to the video processing. When you buy a 10gb computer you only get maybe 9gb usable. Same with hard drives due to formatting limitation, it's not false advertising that's how much it has. Consumer ignorance is not the same as false advertising. The system needs some dedicated to video, audio, radio, and anything else that can't have variable sizing. they told you the right amount but you didn't know that just like the desktop you buy in a store the total available isn't the same as user available because the system needs some of it
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espionage724 said:
But in any case, is there any actual hard proof this is what is happening? I wouldn't know where to begin to look really, but I'd love to see a section of the kernel code that actually dictates this, instead of just hearing "assumptions"
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Yes there is a section of kernel code that dictates it go look at the source. If it's like the samsung vibrant it will be in the kernel config file
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yes we can

ECOTOX said:
When you buy any computer without a dedicated video card you loose ram to the video processing. When you buy a 10gb computer you only get maybe 9gb usable. Same with hard drives due to formatting limitation, it's not false advertising that's how much it has. Consumer ignorance is not the same as false advertising. The system needs some dedicated to video, audio, radio, and anything else that can't have variable sizing. they told you the right amount but you didn't know that just like the desktop you buy in a store the total available isn't the same as user available because the system needs some of it
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I suppose this does make sense; but even with the computers I owned that had integrated graphics, they had some kind of onboard memory attached to them. I could choose to alter how much additional VRAM I needed from system RAM, but didn't have to.
As for my Desktop, out of the 8GB installed in my system, only 1MB (according to Windows anyway) is unusable as "Hardware Dedicated".
Regardless, every other Android device I've seen has a specified amount of RAM it comes with on the box, and has "approximately" the same amount shown as usable in the OS itself. The Nexus 10 says 2GB, with only 1.6GB usable, which isn't nearly "as approximate" imo.

espionage724 said:
I suppose this does make sense; but even with the computers I owned that had integrated graphics, they had some kind of onboard memory attached to them. I could choose to alter how much additional VRAM I needed from system RAM, but didn't have to.
As for my Desktop, out of the 8GB installed in my system, only 1MB (according to Windows anyway) is unusable as "Hardware Dedicated".
Regardless, every other Android device I've seen has a specified amount of RAM it comes with on the box, and has "approximately" the same amount shown as usable in the OS itself. The Nexus 10 says 2GB, with only 1.6GB usable, which isn't nearly "as approximate" imo.
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i can say with 100% certainty that any computer you have owned without a dedicated GPU that has been made within the past 5-6 yrs has at least 100-200mb dedicated to vram. If it even supports 8gb it is gernerally around 512mb that is dedicated as it probably is within 3-4yrs old and probably has an AMD radeon HD gpu or intel HD GPU which use 256mb at minumum. The only way you would have only 1mb taken is if you have a dedicated GPU or it is reading it wrong. I've worked with computer for over a decade and have had to explain this upwards of 100 times I can also say that every single android device with more than 256mb of ram has at LEAST 100-300mb of its ram dedicated to the GPU, the cell/wifi radio, hardware video decoder, camera, and anything else it needs. Samsung vibrant has about 200mb for those dedicated from the 512mb, galaxy nexus has about 300mb dedicated out of 1gb, hp touchpad about the same. Larger the resolution the more you need so 400mb to the system isnt very odd. Id say min 256mb for the resolution on the N10 for video, then probly 100-128mb for the hardware video decoder and 50mb or so for camera and for wifi radio. that totals to approximately 400mb depending on the exact amounts because i dont know them for the n10. If you really want to you can go into the kernel config and change the amounts, but you will break hd playback, picture taking,etc. Which is what would happen if i configured the amounts too low in my vibrant kernels.
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ps, why must auto correct fail me sometimes? ^ x3
and to add to that, look at the amount of user available storage. Do you have the entire 16 or 32gb you bought? no, you will loose about 1-2gb from formating then another 1-2gb for the system and app storage

How much is the total ram in your Nexus 6P?

I just noticed that on my 6P the total ram the os reporting is 2.6Gb. Is that normal? I can't remember but I am pretty sure on my nexus 6 was more. Anyone else noticed this?

Normal.
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This can't be true... Is this normal?

aygul12345 said:
This can't be true... Is this normal?
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Is this your first time buying a tech gadget? Some RAM is always saved for internal usage.
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anglerstock said:
Is this your first time buying a tech gadget? Some RAM is always saved for internal usage.
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No, but is very small amount over... In the picture you see 700mb free.. Isnt that low?

It's like the base 640k from old days, or even better, that space between 640k and 1meg that was mostly reserved and a pain to use.

yeah my operating ram is low as well its always around 700 mb o soI dont see if why if they knew they were gonna use so much why not make it 4GB instead of 3?

Total: 2.6GB
Average used: 66%
Free 0.88GB

Thanks, I was wondering if it's just mine...
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I'm curious why phone, while not running much, reports RAM usage over 50%.
Is this normal or do I need to troubleshoot?
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The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

nrage23 said:
The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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OK that answers my question. Thanks for the link.

No problem. We all get used to Windows which works better with free ram.

nrage23 said:
The free ram thread for every phone. Android is based on Linux. Linux runs best when it uses as much ram as possible and frees ram as it sees fit.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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Dindt know that, thanks for the link

nrage23 said:
No problem. We all get used to Windows which works better with free ram.
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But in the G4 you have more Ram to use. Just like about 1GB. And here on the 6P less then 1GB

The stock Google bloat system & apps will use more memory. It always seems to improve free memory with custom roms and their optimization tweak's!

aygul12345 said:
But in the G4 you have more Ram to use. Just like about 1GB. And here on the 6P less then 1GB
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galaxys said:
The stock Google bloat system & apps will use more memory. It always seems to improve free memory with custom roms and their optimization tweak's!
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You are missing the point. You do not want free ram. In Linux based operating systems free memory is wasted memory. It optimizes the ram for the apps you use most frequently and helps them to load faster. The 6P has 3gb of ram.

Thank you sane people. I was getting tired of telling people this fact about Linux ram management.
Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P

I know my nexus is sitting around 60% usage from just the OS / UI but my MotoX 2013 only used maybe 20-30%.
My moto also claimed 2GB RAM and it showed all 2GB, same with my Shield tablet, on any app that shows total RAM yet the nexus only shows 2.64GB.

Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

Xperia SP vs Xperia TX

I've been a xperia SP owner for 8 months now and it is completly stock and it is my daily driver, and as my secondary i have the TX which ive had for 2 months, but im going to be buying either a brand new SP or brand new TX (mainly because of cosmetic damage but anyway) i want you guys to help me decide,, whether its opinion or personal experience, any help is appreciated, thanks guys :highfive:

I think that our SP just #$#!>'s it off
SP GPU : Adreno 320
TX GPU : Adreno 225
TX Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait
SP Dual-core 1.7GHz [ 2 GHz with Helium Kernel]
TX Front 1(.3) and Back (13) camera are better than SP (front vga back 8).
DONT forget the led bar on SP
i think that, our SP Development forum on XDA waay better than the TX's.
Your choice...

Iekuta said:
I think that our SP just #$#!>'s it off
SP GPU : Adreno 320
TX GPU : Adreno 225
TX Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait
SP Dual-core 1.7GHz [ 2 GHz with Helium Kernel]
TX Front 1(.3) and Back (13) camera are better than SP (front vga back 8).
DONT forget the led bar on SP
i think that, our SP Development forum on XDA waay better than the TX's.
Your choice...
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Thankyou for your reply :good: i didnt take into account the SP development compared to the TX, the only thing that concerns me is the SP's ram managment, can it be improved? I personally didnt notice it too much?

GFlexForever said:
Thankyou for your reply :good: i didnt take into account the SP development compared to the TX, the only thing that concerns me is the SP's ram managment, can it be improved? I personally didnt notice it too much?
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So, i think you can get over the ram problem by SWAP. I really think that the ram problem is soooo confusing. I faced that with 4.3 stock rom < like 20mb free ram with only walkman running lol >
Now im using CM13 with Helium kernel.
I created a swap partition about 900mb(maybe it's way too high but my sd is 32 gb so not a problem )
you can create 400-500 mb swap partition and use it. Im using Swapper2 app and set the swappiness 100, phone runs really smooth.
And i reached maximum 400-410 mb used swap memory, so i think that +512 mb is enough.
Thank you

Iekuta said:
So, i think you can get over the ram problem by SWAP. I really think that the ram problem is soooo confusing. I faced that with 4.3 stock rom < like 20mb free ram with only walkman running lol >
Now im using CM13 with Helium kernel.
I created a swap partition about 900mb(maybe it's way too high but my sd is 32 gb so not a problem )
you can create 400-500 mb swap partition and use it. Im using Swapper2 app and set the swappiness 100, phone runs really smooth.
And i reached maximum 400-410 mb used swap memory, so i think that +512 mb is enough.
Thank you
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Wow thats awesome :highfive: so how do you find mulitasking like listening to music while browsing for example?

GFlexForever said:
Wow thats awesome :highfive: so how do you find mulitasking like listening to music while browsing for example?
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Im just laughing at your example i forget those things like music shut downs on browsing lol lol lol
I just say that, maybe running 6+ apps at the same time (Whatsapp+Facebook+UC Browser/Opera+Music+Xda Labs(using it right now)) and may even much more apps at the same time with no problem.
I clear the "Recents" panel rarely and reboot my phone after 2-3+ days of use
I think you should give a chance and upgrade to Cm13 and use Swap. Just try it.
EDIT: Check the screens, i captured them just now As you see, the Total Swap is 1103mb and the free is 803 Mb, phone using like 300mb swap and runs just smooth
I think that the CM13 has gave this phone life :victory:

Never buy xperia sp
Very laggy phone no matter what you do. Even with 6gb ram this phone would still be laggy, why?
Because of slow internal memory.
Slower phones like xperia tx, galaxy s4mini are much faster with less lag.
Xperia sp freezes a lot and stops reaponding because of bad performance internal storage
Edit: all sony phones have bad ram management.
My xperia z1 has like 370-500 at best free ram

Iekuta said:
Im just laughing at your example i forget those things like music shut downs on browsing lol lol lol
I just say that, maybe running 6+ apps at the same time (Whatsapp+Facebook+UC Browser/Opera+Music+Xda Labs(using it right now)) and may even much more apps at the same time with no problem.
I clear the "Recents" panel rarely and reboot my phone after 2-3+ days of use
I think you should give a chance and upgrade to Cm13 and use Swap. Just try it.
EDIT: Check the screens, i captured them just now As you see, the Total Swap is 1103mb and the free is 803 Mb, phone using like 300mb swap and runs just smooth
I think that the CM13 has gave this phone life :victory:
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Hahaha,, something so simple yet force crashes :laugh:
And thats incredible i was hoping multitasking would be alot better and ive been looking at stryflex's marshmallow rom, have you had any experience with that or should i just go for CM13 if i get the SP?
And i'm really glad to here it runs so smooth :highfive:

Gamer4Life said:
Never buy xperia sp
Very laggy phone no matter what you do. Even with 6gb ram this phone would still be laggy, why?
Because of slow internal memory.
Slower phones like xperia tx, galaxy s4mini are much faster with less lag.
Xperia sp freezes a lot and stops reaponding because of bad performance internal storage
Edit: all sony phones have bad ram management.
My xperia z1 has like 370-500 at best free ram
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Is this from experience or are you just a SP hater?
And i am also considering the TX (mainly for the removable battery and seemingly better ram management) but from the above post ram management can be improved with abit of tweaking and running a custom rom, i actually owned a z1 for several months and never noticed that kind of ram management, sounds like a app or download was hogging your ram :silly:

GFlexForever said:
Hahaha,, something so simple yet force crashes :laugh:
And thats incredible i was hoping multitasking would be alot better and ive been looking at stryflex's marshmallow rom, have you had any experience with that or should i just go for CM13 if i get the SP?
And i'm really glad to here it runs so smooth :highfive:
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I cannot install the Stryflex' s Marshmallow ROM, it gives SystemUI error at boot (but 2-3 people has faced this problem with me, rom is errorless i think thats a problem of my phone
I will wait the Stryflex rom update because of my error and, im waiting for the Xperia X lockscreen and new stuff you understand
Stryflex based on May builds of AOSP, but CM13 nightly updated, your choice
I think Stryflex's roms are good and smooth enough to experience xperia Z5 or X, but i will absolutely wait for the update:silly:

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Is this from experience or are you just a SP hater?
And i am also considering the TX (mainly for the removable battery and seemingly better ram management) but from the above post ram management can be improved with abit of tweaking and running a custom rom, i actually owned a z1 for several months and never noticed that kind of ram management, sounds like a app or download was hogging your ram :silly:
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User xperienece
I owned sp for 8 months from 2014 to 2015
I tried all available roms. Some are fast at the beginning like cm11 but the will all slow down eventually.
My z1 never slows down even with 200mb free ram and all the crapware and bloat installed.
Its not about ram my friend, its about memory performance, its most important. Do you wonder why sp was cheap phone with fast cpu and gpu?
They had to compromise(i hope this is the right word, i am not english speaker) on other parts and used cheaper hardware
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Do storage benchmark and see how low your score if u have sp in hands
Even gs2 performs faster and never slowed down like sp

Gamer4Life said:
Never buy xperia sp
Very laggy phone no matter what you do. Even with 6gb ram this phone would still be laggy, why?
Because of slow internal memory.
Slower phones like xperia tx, galaxy s4mini are much faster with less lag.
Xperia sp freezes a lot and stops reaponding because of bad performance internal storage
Edit: all sony phones have bad ram management.
My xperia z1 has like 370-500 at best free ram
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I think that our SP never get slower on this rom updates. I think it gives the same performance all the time.
Example CM13,CM13 is way faster than 12.1 and i think our SP enough fast on 6.0.1 you understand?
If you want really fast and 6.0.1 running phone you should go buy new phone i think. Because it's been like 4 years bro, give this phone a chance

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User xperienece
I owned sp for 8 months from 2014 to 2015
I tried all available roms. Some are fast at the beginning like cm11 but the will all slow down eventually.
My z1 never slows down even with 200mb free ram and all the crapware and bloat installed.
Its not about ram my friend, its about memory performance, its most important. Do you wonder why sp was cheap phone with fast cpu and gpu?
They had to compromise(i hope this is the right word, i am not english speaker) on other parts and used cheaper hardware
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Do storage benchmark and see how low your score if u have sp in hands
Even gs2 performs faster and never slowed down like sp
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i get your point but try to understand it's an 2013 phone running 6.0.1 smoothly enough to daily use and gaming. And im saying again that the CM13 is way better than other roms like CM12.1 and Stock 4.3.
AND you mean GS2 right lol
it gives maximum 20000 antutu score.
SP Gives 40000 score maybe even better
just check the attachments please.

Gamer4Life said:
User xperienece
I owned sp for 8 months from 2014 to 2015
I tried all available roms. Some are fast at the beginning like cm11 but the will all slow down eventually.
My z1 never slows down even with 200mb free ram and all the crapware and bloat installed.
Its not about ram my friend, its about memory performance, its most important. Do you wonder why sp was cheap phone with fast cpu and gpu?
They had to compromise(i hope this is the right word, i am not english speaker) on other parts and used cheaper hardware
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Do storage benchmark and see how low your score if u have sp in hands
Even gs2 performs faster and never slowed down like sp
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Go and check the hardware internals my friend i think you'll find it had some of the best hardware from 2013 the only thing i can fault the hardware on is the front facing camera and yes im aware that memory performance is a factor thats why developers utilise it the best they can when making roms :good:

@GFlexForever
If you still need advice, I'd say: get the SP. It's one of the few (if not the only) 2013 midrangers that still kicks asses today. Especially the GPU: modern midrangers lag in games (while the SP is perfect) due to Adreno 30x GPUs and (Full)HD displays.
The downside of the SP is the internal memory, that isn't very fast; this is noticeable when you install and app from the Play Store: the phone lags during the installation. 1 GB of RAM is not a downside, for if in 2016 you buy any device with less than 1.5 GB of RAM you surely aren't an "aggressive" user. What's more, with ZRAM and/or swap you can circumvent this problem.
Trimming the /data and /cache partitions once in a while is also a good habit to keep the memory clean and fast, this is not needed on stock ROMs as those trim the memory all the time.

Iekuta said:
i get your point but try to understand it's an 2013 phone running 6.0.1 smoothly enough to daily use and gaming. And im saying again that the CM13 is way better than other roms like CM12.1 and Stock 4.3.
AND you mean GS2 right lol
it gives maximum 20000 antutu score.
SP Gives 40000 score maybe even better
just check the attachments please.
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And just to add to this, although the device is from 2013 and hardware has been improved it doesnt mean that this hardware has anything wrong with it, it was the best of its time.
For example phone screens have went from 720p to 1080p to qhd and they improve but that doesnt mean the 720p screen is at fault.
Another example is that the adreno chip in phones improve drastically and they improve, doesnt mean theres a fault with the older ones

Tomoms said:
@GFlexForever
If you still need advice, I'd say: get the SP. It's one of the few (if not the only) 2013 midrangers that still kicks asses today. Especially the GPU: modern midrangers lag in games (while the SP is perfect) due to Adreno 30x GPUs and (Full)HD displays.
The downside of the SP is the internal memory, that isn't very fast; this is noticeable when you install and app from the Play Store: the phone lags during the installation. 1 GB of RAM is not a downside, for if in 2016 you buy any device with less than 1.5 GB of RAM you surely aren't an "aggressive" user. What's more, with ZRAM and/or swap you can circumvent this problem.
Trimming the /data and /cache partitions once in a while is also a good habit to keep the memory clean and fast, this is not needed on stock ROMs as those trim the memory all the time.
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Thankyou for the advice i think i am going to go with the SP and just try different roms and as you said use ZRAM or another app and see what the best fit for me and i also have a Z2 which is my main device but i want to keep that more as a business phone if that makes sense, when i get my SP it will be more for out door use like when i go out listening to music or browsing and playing games :highfive:

Big thankyou to Lekuta & tomoms for helping me decide and proving some helpful information :highfive: :good: thanks guys

Tomoms said:
@GFlexForever
If you still need advice, I'd say: get the SP. It's one of the few (if not the only) 2013 midrangers that still kicks asses today. Especially the GPU: modern midrangers lag in games (while the SP is perfect) due to Adreno 30x GPUs and (Full)HD displays.
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Best answer,
%100 agree with you !

You will regret it
Benchmarks And numbers mean nothing.
Its true has solid hardware cpu gpu combination. But real life performance is what matters.
Its true sp can run games smoothly but. Using it how its supposed to be used is pain. Lag stutter freeze...
I was thinking just like you when i first bought it
Anyway its your call, but remember my words
Idk about cm13. when i had it, cm12 was not usable...
And beleive me, i tried every solution mentioned here, from almost bloat free roms with just must have phone apps like calendar alarm... and just playstore. To zram swap custum kernels... Overclock
Its very fast as soon as u install your rom with 500+ free ram... But its the case even with a galaxy y.
The phone would slow down eventualy and only uninstalling all your apps would make it fast again
Heck i remember every time i turned on wifi or data the phone would freeze for like 40 seconds. Why? It couldnt handle the incoming notifications lmao.
Mean while slower sd400 devices performs 10 times faster

[REVIEW][PERFORMANCE] Nexus 5X vs OnePlus X speed test! Battle of the Xs!

Hey guys,
Check out this video comparing the speeds of both the devices and find out if that less 2gb RAM really matters that much. https://youtu.be/j3J2DNHIbR4

OnePlusX only has the SD801 and it's still mostly faster. The 5X would have really been future proofed for a while with another GB of RAM.
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Johnsmithson said:
Hey guys,
Check out this video comparing the speeds of both the devices and find out if that less 2gb RAM really matters that much.
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Is the opx tweaked in any way?

gavisharora said:
Is the opx tweaked in any way?
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No, it's running stock OxygenOS 3.1.3 without any tweaks.

Definitely seems like the 5X was doing better until a few apps were in memory, and the redraws began. One extra GB of RAM would have been huge for the 5X...
I would have considered buying the OPX, even with the older SoC, but the lack of band support for US carriers was a dealbreaker.

I had OPX and I've changed it to Nexus 5x because OPX "wasn't" compatible with concrete pavement The thing i miss most is that 1 GB of RAM. Nougat is doing his best to open apps from memory as soon as it's possible but form time to time there are small hiccups and I have about 300 mb of free ram available (it's quite low IMO). Nevertheless, OPX was very delicate and I loooove low-light capabilities of camera in N5X.

Benefit from 8 GB RAM?

Hey guys,
I wanted to ask if there is a benefit in having 8gb of ram instead of 6? Is it even possible to use that much on a phone?
All I've read till now was that developers could fill it with something but I can't think of anything. So I'm just asking out of curiosity.
I don't want a comparison of the 6 and 8 gig RAM versions of the OP5. It's really just about the 8gigs of RAM.
Thanks in advance

User422 said:
Hey guys,
I wanted to ask if there is a benefit in having 8gb of ram instead of 6? Is it even possible to use that much on a phone?
All I've read till now was that developers could fill it with something but I can't think of anything. So I'm just asking out of curiosity.
I don't want a comparison of the 6 and 8 gig RAM versions of the OP5. It's really just about the 8gigs of RAM.
Thanks in advance
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OP5 is so far one of the fastest phone you can ever get. You can't make it lag. I hope I answer even a slight part of your question.

I don't think the phone being fast is related to the amount of RAM.
Apps will eventually start consuming more resources and 8GB RAM will become a necessity in the future.
You can survive with 2 too, but 4 seems to be the standard now; next year 6 and in about 2-3 years 8.

Just depends on how well the phone can manage its own memory. But by default some stuff like mobile games take a lot of ram. Upwards to 400-600mbs of ram for just one app. Maybe just cut down on those or just accept that your device cannot keep everything in memory. Its ok to reload apps that are insanely big.

Yousvel said:
OP5 is so far one of the fastest phone you can ever get. You can't make it lag. I hope I answer even a slight part of your question.
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Like I had already mentioned. It wasn't about the phone.
I do have an OP5 myself ^^
It was really just about the huge amount of RAM
But thanks for your answer anyway ^^

Pwnycorn said:
I don't think the phone being fast is related to the amount of RAM.
Apps will eventually start consuming more resources and 8GB RAM will become a necessity in the future.
You can survive with 2 too, but 4 seems to be the standard now; next year 6 and in about 2-3 years 8.
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I've heard that there are minimal difference between the two versions of the phone.

User422 said:
I've heard that there are minimal difference between the two versions of the phone.
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RAM is the only difference. Multitasking is better on the 8GB model though.

you phone will suffer from low cpu speed before ''needing'' 8gb of ram for 1 single operation.
Having multiple app running in the background makes the experience more fun, but the phone loads app fast enough anyway.
In fact, I'm using greenify, so no need of 8gb.
And a lot of cell phone user will change their phone before it will come slow, or really need 8gb. see pixel2 thread, a lot of people thinking about changing to pixel, what a waste...

User422 said:
Like I had already mentioned. It wasn't about the phone.
I do have an OP5 myself ^^
It was really just about the huge amount of RAM
But thanks for your answer anyway ^^
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more RAM = less loading.
this saves you time because the app stays loaded in RAM (no processing). this saves battery because the processor isn't having to work every time you open it. with 8GB, i almost never close apps.

It is easy to say that the more RAM you have, more the OS will use it, and this will make it more dynamic, therefore faster. But I think this is not perceptible for the user.
I have a 8 GB version and the device gets 5GB RAM to boot up... this would not happen in a 4GB RAM of course but this extra RAM usage do not reflect to more speed in a way you can see it...
The RAM management is more affected actually by the SO itself. I never use more than 7.5 GB RAM but my games never stay in memory for more than a day. I think OOS shuts them down after 24 hours not being used.....
This is a much more technical perception of how the device handle 8GB. I think its more a future proof quality then a advantage in todays processing.