I'm considering either this or the Galaxy Note 5 (although not out yet where I from) but favour the Note 4 because of the SD card slot. How does the screen compare to the Note 5? I usually keep the same phone for 2+ years minimum. Is the 64 bit processor a big deal?
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I'm considering either this or the Galaxy Note 5 (although not out yet where I from) but favour the Note 4 because of the SD card slot. How does the screen compare to the Note 5? I usually keep the same phone for 2+ years minimum. Is the 64 bit processor a big deal?
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While I can only speak of myself, I repurchased a note 4 for a few reasons. I had a s6 for a few months and it was ok. I kept missing features from the note series and also considered waiting till the note 5 came to Europe. However, I decided that I really needed a device with a removable battery and the sd card slot is a huge help. Battery life is a high priority for me and the note 4 can deliver that, it has fast charging, can add wireless and most of all, I can carry an extra battery.
The 64bit SOC isnt the standard yet, so its not a big deal atleast for another few years.
I want to know this too. I'm on the Note 3 and debating whether I should get the Note 4 or wait for the Note 6?
I saw a video that said the Note 4 has slow and unreliable GPS issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU85r3blu9c
Does it have any other problems?
I was in the same dilemma either to jump from a note 3 to a note 4 or 5 but ended up going to the note 4 for the convenient of the replacement battery and sd card.
IMO while holding the Note 5... People were saying it felt premium but to me it felt cheap. The note 4 felt more premium with the faux leather. On day to day usage I don't think you'll see much difference unless you're into heavy gaming.
Note 5 has not got lag at all and you would feel the screen improvement too. Note 5 is better from note 4 in global.
BUT someone who's got Note 4 can be disappointed in many ways.
Just for comparison you can sell N4 for 330 and buy new N5 for 450 in England which is not a big deal for a new NOTE
My opinion: I'll stay with my N4
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I want to know this too. I'm on the Note 3 and debating whether I should get the Note 4 or wait for the Note 6?
I saw a video that said the Note 4 has slow and unreliable GPS issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU85r3blu9c
Does it have any other problems?
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On both note 4's that I have owned, I never had a GPS issue. Both were N910F
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I was in the same dilemma either to jump from a note 3 to a note 4 or 5 but ended up going to the note 4 for the convenient of the replacement battery and sd card.
IMO while holding the Note 5... People were saying it felt premium but to me it felt cheap. The note 4 felt more premium with the faux leather. On day to day usage I don't think you'll see much difference unless you're into heavy gaming.
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I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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Yeah I agree. I'm not optimistic that Samsung will bring the MicroSD card slot back. It seems like it's the new trend going forward
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I felt the Note 5 at the AT&T store at the mall and it felt premium to me. I like the camera and new fingerprint sensor too. Everything else seemed the same.
But, I need upgradable storage and removable battery. Those are deal breakers for me. I just bought new batteries for my almost 3yr old Note 3 and it feels like new again! I love it when my friends all have bulky external chargers shackled to their phones for hours waiting for a recharge when all I have to do is swap a battery and <30 secs later, I have 100% again.
For me, it's gonna be either Note 4 or Note 6. And if Samsung doesn't bring back microSD and removable battery, then I'm leaving for another brand.
It's ironic that Samsung took out the microSD when I read that Marshmallow has native support for it now. I'm not a big fan of the cloud. It makes you depend on a carrier's strong signal, which is hit and miss depending on where in the country or world you are. And all the carriers are desperately trying to kick off all their unlimited data people. It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung and the carriers had some under the table deal to drop the microSD card feature.
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That's why I chose the note 4 because of those deal breaker. TBH, phones have gotten so good in the past couple of years that we're merely just buying aesthetic of the phone instead of functionality when we're upgrading. If Samsung had the same support as Apple with their upgrade Operating System, I don't think a lot of people would be upgrading beside Tech Heads who needs the latest and greatest phone at the time.
I'm staying with my 4.
Got a note 5 on my hands at the store. It really feels better and the s pen is much better. But aside that, note 4 wins on the SD card slot that I swap a lot. I'll wait for the note 6 or some other thing.
As the other friend said. Phones got so much better in the last couple years that there is not much reasons for considering an yearly upgrade.
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For me, at least removable battery is enough & Note 4 can do that.
For storage, at least OTG USB flash drive is accessible, but microSD is of course better.
I hope Note 6 or 7 bring back at least removable battery.
For now Note 4 is worth buying/keeping instead of Note 5.
Compare all the features side by side and considering the price difference I would say note 4 is still a better option that of course if you don't need fingerprint scanner. All the features of the note 5 are already available through custom ROM s and developers are hard at work to improve them.
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After the Samsung event today, when the pre-order went live, I got crazy over which one to buy. Even on samsung website, they have put a teaser to select the one I like. For being a note fan, I was inclined towards Note although I loved the edge display of S6 (never liked the 'S' series though). But finally, I took the big step. Ordered one S6 Edge+. Thought why not give a try, I can always change it after a year or two if its not that good, but I gotta try the edge for once.
So, which one did you buy ? (if you thought its worth the upgrade ofcourse). Or do you think I made a mistake ?
Yeah who know's if it's a good choice or not - tell us what it's like when you get it
Note 5 pretty much killed the Note series
I'll get it on 28th. I expected a delivery with the release date, however, I booked mine from BestBuy since they were giving away a free wireless charger (please note that this is not the fast wireless charging pad). I'll post some reviews once I use it for considerable time.:cyclops:
If you're one of 750 million people in Europe Samsung made the decision for you ...
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I'm still on my note 2 here. I was waiting for the announcement to decide if I wanted to go to note 4 or note 5.
The lack of SD card and no removable battery killed it for me.
Then I saw the new keyboard case!!
Omg be still my heart! It's been 4 years since my beloved HTC G2 and it's physical keyboard.
I might jump ship from the note and go for the s6 edge +!
I don't use my spen very often...
I like the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge plus, but the battery maybe the big problem which is bother me. Do I need to carry a power bank with it all day lone?
I wonder if existing S6 Edge owners will be pissed since they just bought a spanking new phone only a few months back, and now so soon an upgrade has been released.
Edge+ for me. I rarely used the S-Pen and just bought the Note line due to the large screen. Battery is a concern, but we will see.
Note 4. Samsung makes decision easy.
Being in the UK it would have to be the S6 Edge+. The only issue is that currently my provider (O2) has announced There will be 1 capacity available - 32GB but it hasn't even been 24 hours so I'm hoping it's incorrect.
Currently running 96GB on my Note
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Exactly. The only thing good about the Note 5 or S6 Edge+ is the looks, mostly everything else is a downgrade over the Note 4.
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Being in the UK it would have to be the S6 Edge+. The only issue is that currently my provider (O2) has announced There will be 1 capacity available - 32GB but it hasn't even been 24 hours so I'm hoping it's incorrect.
Currently running 96GB on my Note
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Hey fellow loyal Samsung user who don't exist according to Samsung!
Even though I would have managed to get over the fact that for what ever reason the Samsung god decided we are not worthy of Note 5, when I went to O2 website and saw the only option of 32 GB.... I simply just close the tab and went to look at XiaoMi Redmi Note 2!
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Right, Note 5 would have been my best choice for an high-end device to buy.
So... I'll buy a Nexus 5 2015.
I got a ship notification for the GS6E+ for a Monday delivery. I guess AT&T had them ready. I just ordered a few hours ago.
Im soo hyped i just got both the S6 Edge+ and the Note 5 pre ordered and im going forum post trigger happy lol I hope they mod, custom rom etc the works on these devices cuz i cant wait to see what these magicians can do with these devices!
which color are u getting, looks like US is getting only the black and the gold version, i was keen on the silver titanium version.
The verizon store owner who is also a friend told me that the gold version looks very classy, as a samsung rep brought it over to the store to show it to him.
I am kinda finding it hard figure out, if i should get the gold or the black
Decided on the edge+ cause i never use the s-pen
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first guy in UK to get one ! maybe in the world
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Exactly. The only thing good about the Note 5 or S6 Edge+ is the looks, mostly everything else is a downgrade over the Note 4.
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Well, I'm not the one to judge what you should or shouldn't buy, however, I wouldn't say its a downgrade in anyway. For further clarification, let me take a few examples of the things people have been complaining about:-
Lower Battery Life
-You might say it has a 200-300 mAh lesser than any competitive device or even older Note devices. However, there is a good reason for that too. The new AMOLED is highly optimized for less power consumption compared to older Note devices. GS6 Edge and Edge+/N5 packs the same Quad HD resolution, hence the screen consumption will be same even though the screen size is bigger since the PPI is reduced in Edge+/N5 (which is again irrelevant to naked eye).
-The 14nm processor is way more power efficient than the older processors used in Note series.
- The non inclusion of SD Card also positively affects the battery life, check google for more info (we will come to the negative side later)
- The LPDDR4 RAM in newer smartphones have double the efficiency (data rate) with considerably less power consumption.
Even though I do not disagree that inclusion of bigger battery with some compromise over thickness would have been better, however, the battery (even though sounds less on paper) is equivalent (if not more) to what we used to get in old note series.
Missing SD Card
This seems to be one of the biggest worries for most of the folks, and they do have a valid reason for that. However, if we talk about why the SD Card hasn't been included, I can tell you its definitely not because SD Card is not supported with UFS2.0. The real reason is due to UFS2.0 being too fast (atleast 3 times of eMMC 5.1 ). When coupled with an SD Card, just imagine the user experience when half the app is running from UFS2.0 while its cache/data is stored in SD Card, that might actually lead to lags. This is the same reason for Apple not supporting SD Cards too (they don't use UFS2.0 though). Although its not the perfect replacement, however, you can pick some cheap sandisk otg flash drives for like 10-15 bux or may be wifi flash drives for like 30-40 bux. At least that's what I use.
Removable Battery
I think they did it to make create that unibody design and give it the premium look. I know it might not be what we were looking for in Note series, however, I do remember the days of the past (like 2 years back) when Samsung was criticized for their cheap plastic models compared to metallic HTCs. Well, guess what, they heard us. Even I miss this one. I'm looking forward to pick one MobilePal QI enabled power bank which retails at around 38 bux. I know we can't carry another bulky device with us all the time, but samsung didn't leave us with much choice in this area.
Missing IR Blaster
I still couldn't figure out what made them get rid of this. I was so much looking forward to this one and this is probably the only thing I would miss on my upcoming flagship. Can't do much here either...
Overall, I do not think Samsung has released a downgrade to its predecessors. The inclusion of amazing hardware [14nm fastest processor, UFS2.0, DDR4 RAM, Fast Wireless Charging, LTE Cat9, Optimized S-PEN, etc] bundled with its fair and unique software does put it above any other flagships in the market ( if we do not consider the price range ). Again, this is not for the sake of any argument, its just as per my analysis. Please feel free to correct me if I've mentioned anything wrong.
If you don't like to call it a downgrade then call it a sidegrade if you like and of cause the SOC, Fast RAM, Software improvements for the SPEN and so on are on the plus side. The problems you name for a SD card would apply to OTG storage just the same, besides you have to have this externally plugged in tearing at the usb port. For now the majority of S6 users seem not to be very impressed by battery time. Maybe software improvements can make that better and the hardware has the potential to deliver equal running times, but for S6 users this promise is not yet fullfilled.
The plastic back of Samsung phone always were a pro argument for me and i did never understand why people cried for metal or glass bodies. A plastic back is light weight, very cheap replaceable. Never had a problem with that while other phones with metal bodies had poor connection strength.
Actually i bought the Note 4 yesterday from my carrier for 19,95€ with contract prolongation while a S6 (without edge) with 128GB would have cost me more than 340€ and S6edge+ will probably be even more expensive while having only 64GB and the Note not be available for Europa at all (at least for now). Paying 300-400€ more for a phone that has some technical advantages and a lot of disadvantages in usability and the promise that regarding battery time it might come close to the note 4 and some of the insufficiencies can be compensated, somehow. Sorry, I don't see this for me.
I think their new commercial slogan will be "Samsung, making decisions easy!".
Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
Depending on the phone you're coming from but yeah I'm coming from the g4 and it's head over heels better than that device
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Yes, I bought one out right, 64gb, black.
Edit: Will you buy one? If not, why?
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No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
I got one. And I love I it, so far.
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No, I'm sticking with the Note 4 or moving to LG or Sony. I travel a lot, so upgradable storage and removable battery are must haves for me.
I don't want to rely on cloud storage or power outlets or BULKY external chargers.
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I see. You should keep your Note 4 and hold up for the note 6 maybe they will add the micro SD and removable battery back (I'm hoping). The Note 4 still a great phone and I personally think nothing worth the upgrade over the Note 4 out there at the moment.
I got the Note5 because I loved the s-pen. I never use micro SD or change the battery.
Got it yesterday morning. So far, love it.
Don't buy one until I get mine first.
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
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Now that Galaxy Note 5 is released, simple question: WILL YOU BUY ONE?
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Will you mary me, every time I see you post something, I fall in love all over again
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nope..waiting for moto x pure
Kaboose666 said:
Got mine on Monday, been enjoying it all week. 64Gb black. Coming from an LG G2, fantastic upgrade.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Note 4 would be an upgrade from that too and cheaper.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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Yup it would, but since this was almost free for me I really dont care what it would have cost me off contract.
Moved to AT&T next which saved me $25/month on my bill. The phone costs $28/month. Total cost to me $3 more per month.
Besides the G2 didnt have a removable battery, and didn't have mSD card support, so what exactly would the Note4 offer me that the note 5 doesnt, besides a slower SoC, less RAM, worse display (though its still a good one), worse s-pen, and cheaper feel.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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More storage and removable battery. Essential for power users, so maybe you're just not a power user.
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Lol I love this argument, i'm not a power user because I use cloud storage and sit at a desk therefore a removable battery means nothing to me.
I have USB OTG if I want removable storage so bad, but I have 1TB of cloud storage so generally I find that pointless, I have 30GB free on my 64GB note5 after installing my apps. I will be fine with the remaining storage considering I am used to 32GB internal from the G2.
You calling me not a power user because you can't fathom how someone else uses a phone without an mSD card or a removable battery is just stupid, those things have no correlation with being a power user. I keep my phone plugged into my computer for literally 80% or more of my day, what would a removable battery do for me? Nothing. mSD storage would allow me to keep 100GB of music with me at all times, sweet too bad I use spotify, or I could keep all those Linux distros on the mSD card, everyone knows power users use Linux for their primary OS so we always keep a distro or two on the phone just in case.
Give me a break, if you think someone not needing an mSD card slot and a removable battery means they aren't a power user then you don't know what a power user does. Those two things have absolutely no impact on what I use my phone for besides maybe not being a mobile data vault, which is a moot point when I have 1TB cloud storage and 75Mbps wifi.
Another dumb ass thread. If you don't want/like the phone don't get it. Nobody wants to keep logging in and seeing this crap. We are looking fwd to root and roms not people complaining about a phone. You don't Iike it don't buy it. Samsung will not lose sleep over you not getting this year's model. Stick to your Note from last year or whatever else you have and let us enjoy our devices. I go through a lot of devices.... Some with swappable battery and expandable storage... Some without. All manage to get me through a day or two and handle all task I do on a day to day basis. The Note 5 is a hell of a device. Awesome build quality, loud speaker, beautiful screen, beautiful camera, very responsive and very good battery life. Once we get root and custom roms more potential will be unlocked.
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Really? Note 5 has the best SoC on the market, fastest RAM (LPDDR4) and more RAM (4GB), best display (18-23% brighter than note 4 while using 20% less power), and fastest internal memory (UFS 2.0).
I got the phone for basically free, but hey I guess i'm just "stupid" for getting the current best phone on the market while only spending $50 out of pocket.
I feel really dumb now.
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Even with all that RAM Note 5 doesn't store apps in memory.
I bought it and still have my note 4.. Couple of downsides to it but it still outperforms the note 4 on every level.. .
I have a otg dongle for extra memory now that literally takes secs to use. And with Samsung's read write speeds it's more than adequately gets the job done..
But nonetheless I still will keep the 4 in case this thing goes belly up for some reason.
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Seriously, I came into the thread since I already bought one. I posted a comment about buying it, the OP has done nothing but make rude comments and attack me since.
What the hell is the point of this thread if you're just going to call everyone who gets a note5 an idiot for not getting a note4?
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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I got to be honest I'm running note 3 and ported s6 rom it's a fantastic rom but obviously being 64 bit running on note 3 it has limitations I'm in London and for some reason we don't get n5 till Jan I don't understand logic behind the wait as we are usually before the us on updates iv a choice between s6 edge + note 4 edge or wait for n5 so was hoping for some for and against but seems like the op should rename thread to all who hate note 5 (and love note 4 )
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Don't get me wrong I love my note 5 and I'm going to keep it the only thing I don't like about it is not having an IR blaster and that's just because I travel for work and I use it often I cannot wait to get this thing rooted and see what ROMs come out for it
After Note 5 was published, people make lots of complaints about it. So, can anyone tell me why Note 4 better than Note 5?
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After Note 5 was published, people make lots of complaints about it. So, can anyone tell me why Note 4 better than Note 5?
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MicroSD-Card reader, IR Blaster, swappable battery, larger battery, Gear VR, no fragile glass body, etc.
Screen off Memo
the only reason why I want to update to Note 5 from Note4 is "Screen off Memo". And now we can have this SOM on Note 4, so no more Note 5 for me (Big thank to xperiacle and Pako7).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/screen-off-memo-t3203744
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After Note 5 was published, people make lots of complaints about it. So, can anyone tell me why Note 4 better than Note 5?
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No microSD support is bad, but I still can manage that.
But NO user replaceable battery....that's a DEAL BREAKER!
I'm the type of person who use a device until it is broken.
So being able to replace battery easily means I can just replace the battery if the original battery is broken.
That's why Note 4 is better than Note 5
note 4 vs note 5
I just purchased a note 4 Exynos chip instead of a note 5. The reasons for the going for the older model.
- expandable SD card.-( I upgraded from an LG G2), it was always a hassle to backup Roms and if the memory is full from apps and app data then there was no space for music let alone videos. now with SD card I can carry loads of media and even swop out SD cards while I travel. also easy to update ROMS and load content from computer to phone without the need for cables.
- Battery life-the note 4 has a larger battery, yes the note 5 has more efficient hardware and might actually last longer but i believe that with proper software like the recent update to 5.1.1 will negate the hardware effectiveness unless you run high intensity games. I easily reach 2 days battery life and can push 3. and then you can just pop off the back and boom insert new battery. also as your device ages the battery dies and it is a cheap fix to just pop out the back and insert new battery, future proofing a bit.
-Exynos chip- The note 5 has a much faster chip but I am not a gamer. I like to use my phone for everything from calling(yes it is obvious but very overlooked) to running functionality apps that simplify life, with some light to medium gaming thrown in between. IE more calculations than graphics that is why i purchased an unlocked exynos chip note 4. it has the ability to oneday, with the correct software, to also run with 64 bit capability. downside is lack of ROMS especially my favorite CM 12.1. I have also done benchmark test and on geekbench i am getting results of 4500 plus multi score and 1200 single. Antutu gives still 54000 . this means that with Android 5.1.1 the phone is not much slower than the note 5.
The Spen - you cant break your phone with the note 4 Spen, and is idiot proof like you can with the note 5. the other little upgrades are just software. Software can always change. Look at some of the fantastic work done by Devs here to give note users the latest features on older phones.
IR blaster- overlooked but so useful, can control TVs Aircons and Media devices. (just wish samsung could also learn IR signals like my old G2 to custom make a remote for the house/office)
Things that make the note 5 better.
Faster chip( as mentioned above not that major for sum of us, if you game a lot then maybe it is), more ram, better fingerprint reader(one thing I wish note 4 had), samsung pay (nice to have, will unfortunately not be coming to my country soon so not a problem).
Things people say makes note 5 better but I think is just hogwash
- build quality- both are excellently built, but everyone just puts covers on anyway and then the note 4 even wins with better covers that integrate with the back panel, and no glass that can be slippery.
- wireless charging. REALLY people how difficult is it to insert a charger , USB type C with fast charging would be the ultimate solution. and if you really want it the note 4 can also use wireless charging with 3rd party products
Above is just my 2 cents worth. use it ignore it it is just up to you, I know I made my disision and I am not regretting it at all. will probably root my phone soon, but so far there is little reason to root. maybe to use note 5 apps
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Plus no mhl and no smart select ie and converts to text
The Note 4 has overall mostly the same features as the Note 5 does. You won't really notice and difference in speed on a normal daily use, only benchmark wise.
The Note 4 has a removable back, replaceable battery and microSD support. If your Note 4 battery is fauly, you can get a new one under warranty. If your Note 5 battery is faulty then you would have to send it back to Samsung.
And, of course, the Note 4 is cheaper and you're getting way more value for your money than with the Note 5 in my opinion.
It seems to me that every new Note has features I don't want added, and ones I really use taken away.
Case in point - I still have my old Note 3 lying around as a spare, and picked it up to use the other day. It made me stop and think - the Note3 was actually an awesome phone, why on earth did I "upgrade" to a Note4 in the first place?
1) Note3 was lighter and slimmer than the Note4
2) It had USB3 - to be honest I don't miss that all that much, but it was kind of cool when copying large videos off the phone
3) The car dock audio worked flawlessly via the USB cable, something I've been waiting in vain for Lollipop to fix, but to be honest I think it's a hardware limitation
I feel the same about the Note5 - everyone + dog has belabored the lack of SD card and removable battery, and while I wholeheartedly agree that these individually would be a deal breaker for me, the nail in the coffin is the lack of a Snapdragon processor.
Yes, yes the Exynos is a fine processor I'm sure but it feels as if all the development of ROMs is happening on the Snapdragon. I mistakenly bought the N910C Exynos version when the Note4 was first released and it took me about a week before I sold it, at a loss, to buy a Snapdragon variant - it just felt laggy, I couldn't find any hope that I'd ever be able to put CyanogenMod onto it. In short I hated it, and myself for not checking the model number before buying.
I sold my Verizon Note 4 on Swappa in less than a day, so I preordered the S7 Edge, I saw it at Best Buy first before I made the decision, it's an incredible phone. I didn't want to wait for the Note 6 and don't use the S pen much, and was waiting for SD storage to return and the S7 Edge fits the bill. Definitely excited but have to us an old Galaxy S3 for two weeks now.
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I sold my Verizon Note 4 on Swappa in less than a day, so I preordered the S7 Edge, I saw it at Best Buy first before I made the decision, it's an incredible phone. I didn't want to wait for the Note 6 and don't use the S pen much, and was waiting for SD storage to return and the S7 Edge fits the bill. Definitely excited but have to us an old Galaxy S3 for two weeks now.
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At least the S3 could be rooted. But it must be torture going back to such a small screen.
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At least the S3 could be rooted. But it must be torture going back to such a small screen.
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Yeah, screen is tiny and battery is crap, but its my original, unlocked bootloader, rooted, running Android 4.3 , you forget how many improvements have been made to both Android and Touchwiz since the S3, the Edge can't come soon enough..
I just can't go back to a smaller screen anymore. My note 2 and now this the 4 spoiled me.
I almost never use the s pen. Only once in a blue moon for a novelty.
I don't like the edge phones since I can't put an otterbox on them.
So I'll wait until the note 6 comes out and if that looks good I'll pick one of them up. Or just keep my note 4 which is still going strong. Heck, my Droid x and s3 are still kicking and used everyday. I put that s3 trough nearly a new rom a week, sometimes 2 a week.
I can't go backwards on screen size. I'm anxiously awaiting a 6" or larger screen. Who knows if I'll leave Verizon for it. The only thing coming to Verizon that has a six inch screen is the HP Elite x3 (Windows Phone). I may considerate it. ( I use such few apps, I won't really miss any of them on Android.) I rarely use the S-Pen to be honest and screen and camera are what I consider the most important.
I wish HTC would make a decent phone again. I'm not sure if I can play the waiting for Samsung Updates Game again.
No, I like the big screen! I am waiting for the note 6 in the fall, or for something better for me along the way. I am excited the Micro Sd card is back, and hope it is in the note 6. I really wish the battery was exchangeable. So as I say, I am watching for something that would fulfill my needs. I am kind of waiting to see what the upgrade to the LG V10 might be I kind of liked that phone also. Ohh and Root-able would be nice I missed that with the Note 4 Argg Samsung and Verizon!
The sd card is a moot point since Samsung has disabled the adoptable storage feature. They are most likely to limit the memory on all future phones with 32gb because it's their marketing strategy. Thus still limiting the app memory to 32 gb minus the system & bloat space. I personally am done with Samsung.
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@outcasted2003 basically your saying their like the HTC touch diamond but with an Android os .
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I know nothing about HTC but Samsung is shooting themselves in the foot with their new marketing strategies. They want to be like Apple it seems. The new GS7 is nothing more than a GS6 with waterproofing, little bit bigger battery and a basically useless sd card slot to expand the internal memory.
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Hi, can you update how are you feeling when you get the phone. From 5.7 inch to 5.5 inch screen, I am also using note 4 and plan to upgrade to s7 edge but I am not sure if that .2 inch will be a big difference.
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Hi, can you update how are you feeling when you get the phone. From 5.7 inch to 5.5 inch screen, I am also using note 4 and plan to upgrade to s7 edge but I am not sure if that .2 inch will be a big difference.
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I went and played with one at Best Buy, screen size difference is very nominal, however, the S7 Edge is a much smaller footprint (overall size), which is nice, as the Note 4 was big.
I personally hate going backwards in screen size for any reason. I still prefer a phone with a removable battery and if it must be a fixed battery I'd ideally like 4,000mAh+. Also, 32GB as the only storage variant was fine in 2014 but not in 2016 for a flagship. Finally, I'm bummed about no Type-C connector. If the Note 4 addresses all of the above concerns while still packing a microSD slot and launching Type-C support (remember, the Note 3 introduced USB 3.0 support back in 2013) then I'll make the jump. Until then I am hoping that the combination of Marshmallow (eventually) and a new 128GB microSD card can keep my Note 4 functional at least through this year.
I'm with ya hkklife. I was so keen on the upcoming LG G5 with its metal body and replaceable battery and SD card. But then I saw they went to from a 5.5in screen to a 5.3in screen. Now I need to rethink things.
Maybe when it does hit stores and I hold it in my hands, I'll feel different but going backwards in screen size is not something I want to do either.
Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
I got an AT&T Note 4, but due to locked bootloader, I sold it without even using it. Upgraded to LG G4, sold it due to bugs. Nexus 6P is nice, but I always found myself missing my Note 3 and the S-Pen, backup batteries, and SD cards.
So I sold the Nexus 6P and now I bought myself a Note 4 with unlocked bootloader and I'm all set for the long term with my Note 4. When I researched Note 5 and 7, I totally lost interest at the non-removable battery part. They should have renamed the Note series to Samsung Galaxy GNote 5 and GNote 7 (Gimped Note).
Is the Note 4 the last great phone? For me, yes.
Hard to justify going to a Note 7. It's just not that impressive. Only thing I wish would be better on the note 4 is the camera. The S7 camera is pretty impressive and fast.
I can let most things slide, or grow to love other features, it's just hard without the IR blaster... Not sure why Samsung thought it was a great idea to remove it from their phones. I mean it's not like they make home theater equipment.... So, yeah, it sucks as we evolve in some places we simultaneously devolve in others.
Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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Yup I agree. Once I heard the specs about the note 5 I completely lost interest. The note 7 does have some nice specs and the added SD Card support is great but still, too many essentials are missing. And most importantly the locked bootloader. No chance I'm going to buy a phone that is locked down. Hopefully nothing happens to my note 4 for the next few years.
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The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations.
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
AWildColin said:
Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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The NextRadio app lets you do this. Sprint has unlocked the FM Radio in their phones for quite some time now.
I got my Note 4 last July. By that time, it had already been out for a while, but I had an early upgrade opportunity and made the jump from the Galaxy S5 I had gotten just 11 months earlier.
At the time, I was looking at either the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. Ultimately, the Note 4 won because of a removable battery and the option to add a micro SD card for extra storage. The phone still works great, and while I'm still about a year out from my upgrade point, I'm hoping there will be better options by that time.
iTzFeRReTTi said:
Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
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agreed
[/COLOR]Locked bootloader? No thank you.
Only way to fully protect yourself from malvertising 0 day exploits is full phone adblock and AdAway needs root.
My Note 4 has been great, with Anker battery and wireless chargers everywhere never running out of juice.
The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
Keeping mine too. I'm done with Samsung. Time to move on to someone else
The main appeal to me is the water resistance but not knowing if the battery will die fairly rapidly like the note 4 battery pretty much counters that with it being not removable. Ill probably wait and see if the next nexus iteration has water resistance.
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The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
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Note 7 was meant to be disappointing. You gotta remember, the note series is intended for business users who have a need for a stylus. It was never going to have 6GB of RAM or the newest snapdragon. If we all expected that then we don't know why the S7 exists. It is the flagship phone from Samsung, not the Note. The people on XDA who root their notes pales in comparison to the actual number of note users who do not. Samsung is like any other company. IPhone has 1 flagship. That's what samsung wants
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The note 7 is still an awesome phone. Better specs than the note 4. I still don't mind using the note 4 and will continue to do so. I wanted to upgrade to the newest note but if the bootloader is locked and no possibility of root it's a no go for me.
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the Note 5 disappointed me but the Note 7 has everything i want except for an IR blaster.
If you don't think the Note 7 is an upgrade, you must not have played with it in real life. The phone is gorgeous especially the screen. The only thing I will miss is the IR blaster but oh well. Now to find where to sell my Note 4 for the highest price....
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