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What are your experiences with Nexus 10?
After 1 month
1. Disappointed ( battery life )
2. Feeling in the sf world with more goods to come related softwares ( android and maybe Ubuntu )
3. Happy with the games performance
4. Disappointed ( OEM accessories ) ( Google and Samsung care about the product ) Google for way to sell the product and Samsung for not able to make a 1m pogo cable .
5. Disappointed ( slow charge )
6. Happy with the developers attention ( kernel , ROM and recovery ) especially with Trinity kernel and AOKP Mr Robinson
7. Feel proud for have this in front of my friends ( I keep the bad thinks for me about it )
8. Happy with the CPU performance
9. Happy with the camera quality
10. Happy with the micro USB and hdmi connectors and possibility to connect : mouse , keyboard , HDD , Ethernet etc.
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I actually kind of disagree with the previous post. Generally my experience has been pretty good. Battery life is solid for me...I generally get 6-8 hrs of screen time each charge. Charging is slow, but the battery is 9000mAh which is huge. I plug mine in at night and its fully charged in the morning. Its all about your own expectations I guess.
Performance is really good and the screen is amazing. Some complain about lightbleed but its not an issue for me. Peruse the forums. There are many topics about issues.
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Coming from an iPad, extremely dissatisfied. Nowhere near as smooth and has half the battery life. The colors on the display are not as vibrant and the blacks are not as deep and rich. Unacceptable stability, tons of freezing, crashing and random reboots which are all symptoms of android 4.2, zero accessory support, half the battery of the iPad (I'm lucky to get three hours of screen on time at max brightness which I need to be on to see the screen in brightly lit rooms (iPad got much brighter and lasted 10 hours of actual screen on time). Games are laggy and I just regret this purchase.
I was expecting an experience like I have on my note 2. But its nowhere near as smooth and stable. And actually lasts a shorter amount of time before it needs to charge.
I'm only two days in but I love this thing... does have minimal light bleed but it's not noticeable in normal use... wish I got it sooner
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Overall, I love it..had it near a month now and use it alot more than I expected too.
As an avid android user, I am glad I didnt jump ship to ipad which I thought about doing so, but glad it was just a thought. I still hate hate hate iOS.
Battery life sure could be tad better, but it gets me through the day and can toss on charger at night.
screen is just awesome looking
gaming is fun, love hooking up my controller via a 14cent otg adaptor and play nes/snes/playstation games.
Plex is just pure awesomeness on the tablet
and well Simpsons Tapped Out...damn addicting..
over all just been a great experiance, and nothing really would change, and glad I chose this.
Really pleased with my N10, had it since just after release. Performance is excellent. The only app I have that lags is FF. I had some random crashes and lockups before 4.2.2 but since then it's been rock solid with not a single problem. Battery life is good considering the outstanding screen it's powering.
The only issue I have is it losses time occasionally, I know this is a recognised problem but I would like to see it sorted as I use the tablet as a bedside clock/alarm when I'm travelling.
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Eatonitis said:
... The only issue I have is it losses time occasionally, I know this is a recognised problem but I would like to see it sorted as I use the tablet as a bedside clock/alarm when I'm travelling...
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Use an app like "clocksync" to deal with device time slippage
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.org.amip.ClockSync&hl=en
If lost or stolen, I'd buy....
another without hesitation! I guess I'm lucky, I just don't have or see all the "issues" for my use of this tablet that others seem to struggle with day after day. :victory:
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What are your experiences with Nexus 10?
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Quite mixed.
I'm still thin about that myself.
Tomsawhun said:
Quite mixed.
I'm still thin about that myself.
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Sorry, think ...
I just picked up the Nexus 10 today and can't believe how smooth it is completely stock it is much smoother than my asus Infiniti which has a custom rom and kerneI i really can't wait to unlock the nexus 10 and flash carbon rom get some to make it even faster ! The asus Infiniti is going up for sale tonight lol
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Ted C. said:
another without hesitation! I guess I'm lucky, I just don't have or see all the "issues" for my use of this tablet that others seem to struggle with day after day. :victory:
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you don t see an issue that google lied us about the battery life and no care about OEM accesories?
- i paid for 7 hours of web browsing - i get 5 hours ( stock rom , stock kernel , no background apps running instead of web surfing ones , brightness to 30 % )
- i paid beacause its google/samsung and i can have a simple case that fits this product - i got nothing
- i paid for google brand because its a inovative company - i ve got no pogo cable to charge faster not to charge more that stays on
you are in heaven now - don t you worry child
Google -> put your as to work and deliver us some high class products like the search engine is ! I tought that you are the best ... don t get us more disappointed
Samsung -> shame on you because of the ugly bleeding screen problem . wtf you are nr 1 company in the world that produce this toys ... be carefull next time
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Have had my Nexus 10 since early December, after having returned a disappointing TF700T. I use it heavily, just about every day.
I ran it stock for a while, although unlocked and rooted. Apex Pro. Using Chrome Beta let me avoid most of the early issues, and since android 4.2.2, this has been rock solid.
I recently flashed a custom ROM: AOKP PUB build. I'm also using the KTManta kernel. Performance, which was always great, is even better now. Lightning fast, super fluid / smooth. Incredibly reliable and stable.
I've had no issues at all re: squeaking, creaking, flexing, or light bleed. WiFi has been excellent in my experience.
Battery life has been fine. I average about 6 to 7 hours screen time in a typical day, and after a 16 to 18 hour day like that, I still have about 12 to 15 percent battery left. I generally leave brightness at about 70 pct.
I have SwiftKey Flow installed... Spectacular on this device and on my GNex.
I have the third party pogo cable and love it. I also found a genuine leather version of the Moko slim multi angle case on Amazon for $21, and it is perfect. Elegant, very functional, very well made, and a perfect fit.
I'm finding more and better ways to use the Nexus 10 every day. Spectacular device that is changing the way I work. Very highly recommended.
...beamed to your planet from my Nexus 10
I'm happy with the Nexus 10. I think the battery lasts enough, its shape is attractive and the data capacity is good.
Let's get real here
I'm not a hardcore XDA user and i don't modify my tablet more than it needs, So my experience with the nexus 10 has been great. Even though i have lost so many features from tf700t (with dock + SD Card) to Nexus 10, But it's worth it after seeing that performance that i got from the nexus 10.
Rants : only 16GB, Not way to upgrade. (Of course you could use cloud services)
Camera : 5MP, Would have loved to see a higher MP camera (It's not a big difference between 5-8)
Apps : Higher the quality, More the space it takes and it will eat up those 16gbs (You could get the 32GB but i haven't seen the 32gb available in over 3 months)
Love the Screen, Love the Performance, Love the Mic quality & Everything else ( Of Course apps that we download for the nexus 10 aren't updated yet, Well 95% of them)
If you want a tablet right now & You could get through the apps updating period (Where they update the graphics for Nexus 10) Then you are good for Nexus 10, Even though Nexus 10 is hard to get your hands on.
But If you want a simple tablet that will do your stuff without being confused, Nexus 10 is the way to go. But suggest If you want a table that already has a ecosystem you could try the iPad 4 they have alot of apps optimized, It's better to wait and think about it than going out and buying it (I learned it the hard way)
It depends on you and how you want to spend your money.
The things i said are something that i hate or love / My Opinion & Should not taken as a hate message.
Overall the Tablet gets 10/10, The things i mentioned (Rant) are things that doesn't bother me but i would have loved to have it, Just for sake of having them. I'm Completely happy with my tablet and couldn't wish better. "Whisper" 64GB or 128GB "Whisper"
Thank you very much your opinions!
You are very helpful.
Best regards
My glowing opinion of my N10 here:
http://dibblebill.blogspot.com/2013/02/farewell-a500-hello-manta.html
However, I am afflicted with the strange battery indicator issue. Calling Samsung later today. Give the N10 a 9.5/10. I get 8-10 hours at about 30-40% brightness, though that's all I need in my work environment. Get home from work shift and still have 50-70% battery left, depending on how much I use it at work.
All in all, I considered the Acer a500 the BEST of the Honeycomb tablets, and I, based on experience, consider this the best (for my purposes) of the ICS/JB tablets. Its only contender when I bought it was the Note 10.1.
I've been using mine a lot, every day basically, from watching movies and tv shows on netflix/other sites to playing games (Android and emulators) to productivity (Evernote, Kingsoft Office with a bluetooth keyboard) to web browsing. Works great, still fluid, and overall very happy with it, I actually got rid of my laptop as I could do everything I wanted to do on it.
I've had mine since the end of December, and I use it every day. I absolutely love it. My only issue with it is that I can never decide which ROM to keep on it. I've been running a healthy diet of CM 10.1, AOKP, and PA, and all run so well, and smoothly. This tablet has gone beyond my expectations.
My nexus 9 recently started doing this...
Credit to Andrew Spyker
I've always had Nexus items.. First gen Nexus tablet, second, 3rd.. hell I have a nexus Q
So with this new issue I've run the gamut of Nexus 9 issues. Frisbee backplate, speed that, so you have a reference understandable to the human mind, ill describe as glacial. Charge to 100% eta. 2017. I got stuck on android 5.0.0 because.. who the hell knows. And now randomly my tablet has what I can only describe as seizures. HTC wants me to RMA it.. but you know what, I do not want to RMA it because then I'd be given another one and I would rather have the current one blow up in my face then to subject myself to the false hope of receiving a replacement and assuming, nay believing that all is well.
This is twice Nvidia has been contracted to put a processor in a Nexus and this is the second time the result has been total complete garbage. The entire Nexus9 experience has gotten me closer than I have ever been to buying an Ipad.. Google's and to an extent all Android tablet makers ability to get a tablet produced that even comes close to an Ipad in its ability to run the same way every day has been weighed and measured and found wanting.
The phones, which by all accounts are still their main focus have not suffered like the tablets so I will continue to enjoy them.
They seem to be unable to produce a table that is consistent or compelling and are thus going through the motions and just making a tablet because they have to.. So the Ipad decision is because quite frankly Apple does "going through the motions" better than Samsung/Google/HTC apparently can.
Maybe this will all change.. maybe it will not. At some point I will make the change these manufacturers will not. One thing I will not do is be suckered into a new tablet every 12 months.
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I'm not happy with my Nexus 9 either. It's lacking in both hardware and software.
Hardware:
- backlight bleeding
- too heavy
- flex in the back cover
- battery life is not that great
Software:
- random reboots / crashes
- RAM bug (causing chrome tab reloads for example)
- slow performance occasionally (probably caused by the RAM bug)
- software updates were rather slow for a Nexus device, we had to wait months for 5.1.1
I don't have any hope that Android M will fix any of the software problems. The Nexus 9 has been out for almost a year and there hasn't really been much improvement since the release.
I would like to buy an iPad mini 4 (never owned an iPhone or iPad, but I think there are no good Android tablets out there), the problem is that the Nexus 9 has a bad resell value (<250€) and the iPad mini 4 costs 389€ and I really don't feel like spending that much on a tablet again considering that I haven't even had the Nexus 9 for a year.
Asus zenpad 8.0 S. ... Love mine, sold my Nexus 9 to buy it. Super thin, great screen but get the CA version
I jumped on the bandwagon and bought the 32gb N9 from Google Play in December. After a month of use I felt it was an "okay" tablet. Last month I inherited an iPad Air 1st gen. The iPad gives a much more gratifying user experience.
I feel that Google really blew it with the N9, rushing to get a tablet out and winding up with a rush product at a premium price. I will be much more reluctant to go with another Google product in the future.
I don't know but I actually love my tablet... The biggest gripe I have with it is the tabs in Chrome refreshing, but besides that the tablet works great... There is a small light bleed but nothing as bad as my G3... Sorry to hear you guys had a bad batch, but what might have helped my tablet experience is that I rooted mine and running dirty unicorn...
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I don't know but I actually love my tablet... The biggest gripe I have with it is the tabs in Chrome refreshing, but besides that the tablet works great...
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Same here. And my N9 is bone stock.
hardware is fine, but the drivers running it are crap. stutters, background task getting killed, refresh on tabs when browsing, touching the screen ramps up the processors (it's why the browser uses more power than the screen, each touch takes a crap-ton of power. a few updates back fixed it to 1/2 but still is too much. lowering it to 800 and it stutters, my other tablets only ramp up to 300 with no stutter)... as crappy as samsung is with support i'd have gotten a better tablet sticking with them. i've tried four different roms with the same results and was on stock/rooted for the longest with fire-ice kernel.
I assume you've done a full wipe and ruled out it being a software bug?
If the company is offering to RMA a defective unit in favor of a non-defective one and you turn them down how is that Nexus/HTC/Android/whomever's fault other than your own?
Other than the backlight bleed I don't have too many issues with my Nexus. And that was purchasing a refurb scratch/dent 32gb model from Amazon Warehouse for $290. Is it what I'd expect for a $290 tablet? Absolutely.
I'd consider an iPad Air 2, but those guys are $600 and won't sync up quite the same as all my other crap. Or alternatively the Mini 4 ($500).
Mine is on Preview M unencrypted. I really like it. My 10 is a fine tablet, as well. The 7's I've had I've never really liked.
The apple tablets I've tried seem no different to me. I've even changed my Window animation scale 1, Transition animation scale 1 and Animator duration scale 1.5 and it acts just like an apple tablet.
The freeze on OP's video is caused by an undervolt-powersave thing. It has been reported many times and only an RMA can save you from that.
The RAM deficiency is caused by the one and only Chrome that consumes a ****load of ram on any platform. It fills my G3's 3 GBs of ram in just 5 tabs.
Just use another browser.
ive got a sluggish n9, backlight bleed and a few reboots. battery life is weak...
love aspect ratio though and still think this is still a good tablet overall...
There is no way anyone that is happy with this tablet uses multiple profiles on a regular basis.
If you fresh boot and sign into one user things are ok... not horrible or super fast but ok. Sign in to an additional profile and the tablet goes to complete hell. Stutters, stalls, crashes, etc.
Really sucks because its shared between myself and my girlfriend. This has been the case since 5.0.1 through 6.0 preview 3.
People are never happy with what they have. Yes the tablet has a few issue here and there. Very little consumer grade electronics are "perfect" there will always be something that bugs you.
I like this tab, took a little tweaking, as it usually does with any device to reach the standards of a "current XDA'r".
But at the very LEAST i would disagree with this being a tab to avoid.
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No offense but your optimism does not apply here. Get off the koolaid
osiris355 said:
No offense but your optimism does not apply here. Get off the koolaid
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The incredible pessimism doesn't apply here, nor belong, either. Get off the juice.
RickInHouston said:
The incredible pessimism doesn't apply here, nor belong, either. Get off the juice.
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His post is misleading and mine is not pessimism when its reality. Everyone knows this tablet has issues worse than typical bugs or hardware annoyances.
Edit: I just finished flashing 6.0. I can't believe I am saying this but it looks like google has finally fixed most of the performance issues. I can finally load up multiple profiles/chrome browsing and it doesn't start hanging/crashing. 1 year later and they finally got it right. Too bad it still heats up when gaming but that's not as big of a deal.
I love mine personally, there is a tiny hint of backlight bleeding but it's hardly noticeable. Battery life isn't that great, but that's the only downside for me. It always gets me through 2 days of use anyway since I have a phone for other functions. I also would gladly take a slight issue or two for the vastly superior sound setup for media consumption. Apple could maybe get my buck if they integrated FF speakers, and good ones at that. Until then the Nexus is the best for me. I was also thinking about the Asus 8.0 too, it looks good but it's too damned small. I actually think my Nexus is a bit small too, but it's the biggest and best tab I could get for under $300
I've had all sorts of issues with my Nexus 9. Software is better now than it used to be. But up until 5.1.1, multitasking made me want to kill kittens. It's more usable now with the latest 5.1.1 revision on the Pure Nexus ROM and Fire kernel. Except for Chrome, even XDA makes it choke. HD video performance is hit or miss, MX player with Tegra plug-ins was OK and other media apps stutter with high bit rates. I'm not on M now but when I tried it the battery life improved so there is that to look forward to.
The screen bleed on the bottom has gotten worse.
I learned my lesson and won't buy Nexus products again till they are on the market for a while and are thoroughly reviewed/patched.
Stock feels a little clunky on the Nexus 9. Installed CM and it feels much smoother. Overall, I am fairly pleased with mine.
Then again, I do not use Chrome, rather I use Firefox with Adblock+.
I have has both gen 7, and now the 9. I have also had iPads' and a Sony Tablet.
The 1st gen 7 was my favorite. Its form factor felt the best in my hand, the 2nd while faster was uncomfortable to hold. I'm not an Apple fan but work gave me an iPad 2. I rarely used it. Seemed okay. The Sony Z3 Tablet Compact has AMAZING quality. I just wish I could put AOSP on it, not a fan of the Sony tweaks, but over all its made from great materials and its very smooth to operate.
The 9 for me has been great so far. I did the following as soon as I got it, these are things I generally do to EVERY Android device when I get it.
* Change DPI to the screens native DPI (288 in this case)
* Added a line in build.prop to enable hardware UI rendering. <-- not sure if this is really needed anymore so I continue to add it until I'm told its not.
* Hard code the DNS used to the Google DNS servers
* Set all animation scales to .5
* Force GPU rendering to ON
I have never had any crashing or RAM management issues. I DO have the light bleeding issue, but not bad enough to really complain about.
Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
Totally agree, can't wait till the pixel c is out!
waiting4mynexus said:
Totally agree, can't wait till the pixel c is out!
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True due to 3gb ram, however I can't trust nvidia mobile processes anymore, htc one x, the nexus 7 2012 and the nexus 9, have both very bad heating problems as well as performance issues thanks to thermal throttling and memory leaks.
this time around, I'll wait for many solid reviews.
I was too excited when I ditched my ipad 2 (2011).
Did you try DU?
Also did you try an custom kernel?
Was excited to purchase but very disappointed due to the lag, seriously laggy and poor performance. Fortunately bought this on reduced price so didn't hurt so much, had I paid original price would have been very annoyed. Also can return within 14 days so will take the opportunity to do that.
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Did you try DU?
Also did you try an custom kernel?
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Brother, I love ur work and effort on ur kernels and mods, I've tried DU, cm, aicp, mokee from, vanir exodus, pa, etc....
And all kernels , and still the same, I just went on Bros nexus 7 2013, opens 10 apps and no memory leak nor redraws and still has so much ram left, did the same thing on nexus 9, redraws for every app, ????, its RUBBISH, 1 year of tolerating this is so dam annoying,
Actually, I just tried experimenting with the elemental x kernel. So far it's smoother. We'll see after a month.
All problem because google want to use the Tegra K1 chipset. Terrible battery drink, lag and hot enough to cook some egg. Really disappointed about what a 6.700 mah battery can do. If the nexus 9 is running snap 800, 801 or 805 i think it will perfect device. But i still happy with my Nexus cause i'm a big fan of HTC and waiting their tablet for along time.
This sh*t is getting so old.
I bet if you go to any device's forum on xda you'll find complaints about it being "laggy". Every one. So you better just deal with it because you'll be complaining about it with whatever you buy next too.
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This sh*t is getting so old.
I bet if you go to any device's forum on xda you'll find complaints about it being "laggy". Every one. So you better just deal with it because you'll be complaining about it with whatever you buy next too.
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he said since Day 1.. so why not return it!!
I've owned dozens of tablets of various makes and models. The forum complaints are pretty universal for every one I have owned. Laggy performance, poor customer service, taking for eeeevvverr to get updates. Along with the typical threat of "i will never buy xyz tablet again!".
Personally am liking my nexus 9. It is kind of a unique device. 4:3 ratio, front facing speakers front of the line privileges for Android updates. Mine is a 32gb lte model and I got it on craigslist for 200 bucks, so, what's not to like?
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johna2u said:
I've owned dozens of tablets of various makes and models. The forum complaints are pretty universal for every one I have owned. Laggy performance, poor customer service, taking for eeeevvverr to get updates. Along with the typical threat of "i will never buy xyz tablet again!".
Personally am liking my nexus 9. It is kind of a unique device. 4:3 ratio, front facing speakers front of the line privileges for Android updates. Mine is a 32gb lte model and I got it on craigslist for 200 bucks, so, what's not to like?
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I love all the features but the software part is killing the tablet
I guess I am a pretty light user. I mean I am on the thing constantly but I don't play games or do anything that would really tax the system. YouTube, news feeds, Facebook, forums E-mail. Everything I do works just dandy. My two daily drivers are this nexus 9 and a Samsung Galaxy tab pro 8.4. The screen is definitely better on the Samsung. The Samsung does get hot if too many apps are open. The nexus has gotten hot a few times but I just close all recent apps and it cools right down. I like the 4:3 ratio on the nexus but it is definitely much heavier than the Samsung. Speakers are unbeatable on the nexus but they are pretty darn good on the tab pro as well. Both tablets are on the night stand but I tend to grab the nexus most of the time.
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I love all the features but the software part is killing the tablet
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I have to agree. I love the hardware but there is something wrong with the software. I'm coming from the Nexus 7 2013 and that can handle multiple chrome tabs open without having to constantly refresh them.
It concerns me that Google/Nvidia don't seem to be sorting these issues out.
Masteryates said:
I have to agree. I love the hardware but there is something wrong with the software.
It concerns me that Google/Nvidia don't seem to be sorting these issues out.
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IMHO,
the problem is the 64bit Android running on only 2GB RAM => bad combination of software and hardware.
And it's actually only 1.8 GB available RAM. Of this Android OS alone is using 680MB on this device.
Compare that with the 32bit N5 where AndroidOS uses half of that. Other apps show similar numbers when you compare them running on 32bit vs. 64bit. This adds up quickly. Then the only thing the OS can do is kill apps in order to run another one etc.
Nothing Google or Nvidia could do about this, apart from sending out hardware upgrade kits with 4GB (actually this would be cool)
Now, despite this, I like the N9, I like the 4:3 screen for reading! And when mostly reading (Newsreader, Firefox, PlayBook, Kindle) I can get 10 hours usage. Pro-Tip, no root required:
Code:
adb wait-for-device shell wm density 266
Of course the situation changes when I fire up a game that keeps GPU/CPU at max frequency the whole time - then I'm lucky to get 3 hours, without burning my left hand from handling the pretty hot left edge.
This is the sad situation that forces me to root again now that the N9 is running "M": just to be able to down-clock that CPU/GPU monster.
I never experienced lag until I upgraded to Marshmallow. Now that I'm back on Lollipop all is good again. I admit it does run hot when running games, but as for battery life I've never had a device that performed better. I'm very happy with it, but sorry to hear you think it's the worst tablet in the world.
I guess I'm lucky. I initially swapped my first unit because of lightbleed, but I don't have severe lag, redraw, or memory-leak issues. Not any more than on any other Android device I've owned. If anything, things look better, sound better. My only complaint is also my own fault: 16gb, instead of 32gb. I can't do mass-updates from the Play Store, because there just isn't enough space. I blame Hearthstone, but that's another conversation entirely
Hey taronas,what exactly will that code do if I enter it via adb?
Cheers pal.
taronas said:
IMHO,
the problem is the 64bit Android running on only 2GB RAM => bad combination of software and hardware.
And it's actually only 1.8 GB available RAM. Of this Android OS alone is using 680MB on this device.
Compare that with the 32bit N5 where AndroidOS uses half of that. Other apps show similar numbers when you compare them running on 32bit vs. 64bit. This adds up quickly. Then the only thing the OS can do is kill apps in order to run another one etc.
Nothing Google or Nvidia could do about this, apart from sending out hardware upgrade kits with 4GB (actually this would be cool)
Now, despite this, I like the N9, I like the 4:3 screen for reading! And when mostly reading (Newsreader, Firefox, PlayBook, Kindle) I can get 10 hours usage. Pro-Tip, no root required:
Code:
adb wait-for-device shell wm density 266
Of course the situation changes when I fire up a game that keeps GPU/CPU at max frequency the whole time - then I'm lucky to get 3 hours, without burning my left hand from handling the pretty hot left edge.
This is the sad situation that forces me to root again now that the N9 is running "M": just to be able to down-clock that CPU/GPU monster.
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What adb wait for device ...improve? @taronas?
Envoyé de mon Nexus 9 en utilisant Tapatalk
In april i purchased a huawei mate 8 nxt-l29. Definitely a step up from a galaxy s5 like 1000 steps up. One of the best devices ive ever used. Recently earlier today as of writing this, i switched from the huawei mate 8 on metropcs to the samsung galaxy s7 on sprint network. It took me a grand total of 2 hours of owning the s7 to hate the hell out of it. Without even installing any of my own apps i use commonly, like steam or firefox or setting up any of the apps on there. I returned the thing for the first time because it overheated in the settings menu and shut off three times. I went back to sprint immediately and exchanged it for a fresh s7 sitting next to me now, doing nothing, screen off, overheating as i type. There are no downloads queued, setup is complete, it should be idling right now. But no, it is constantly hot to the touch.
The main reason i hate it are as follows:
1. Heat
2. Lag
3. Freezes
4. Slow
5. Unresponsive
6. Millions of apps i cannot disable.
The first reason being heat is why this thing is awful. My mate 8 never heats up when idling, in fact, ive never caught my mate 8 above 55C and my mate 8 idles at around 29-32C. This thing idles at 63C and heats up to 72C. It does not stop doing random crap. even after disabling everything and turning on the performance inhibiting mode, still stuck at high temperatures, screen off, left alone for enoguh time to idle.
Next, the lag is unbearable. In proprietary menus, such as the entirety of the settings app, there are microstutters to complete freezes. Theres so much buffering done with this phone, having come straight from the mate 8, this is unacceptable.
Compared to my mate 8 I tested installing facebook, instagram, steam and one of those massive games with downloads in app, this one being Dungeon Hunter 5.
I want to disable a system app: App list laod time 10 seconds
i click on the system app i want to disable: ( google drive) load time 3 seconds
i want to click disable and confirm i want it disabled (google drive) Load time: 5 seconds.
Uninstall proprietary sprint app: Load time 4 seconds, Uninstall time 15-20 seconds.
Uninstalling dungeon Hunter 5: Load time: 1st effort froze the phone, second time also froze, third time it worked but took a whopping 73 seconds.
Compared to my s7 I tested installing facebook, instagram, steam and one of those massive games with downloads in app, this one being Dungeon Hunter 5.
Open settings: Load time 1 second
Open apps: App list load time 2 seconds
Click on app i want to disable (google drive) : Load time less than 1 second. .63 seconds to be exact.
Disabling app (google drive): Load time less than 1 second. .57 to be exact
Uninstalling Dungeon hunter 5: Load time 3 seconds
Galaxy s7 first day: First S7 froze 3 times with massive microstutters, second S7 after swapping has frozen twice. Force restart was the only fix.
Mate 8: Has frozen once, but it was my fault. Never has frozen without it not being my fault.
Sidenote: If my S7 freezes on not just day 1 but hour 1 it cannot be my fault yet. Im just trying to load my apps on there at that point.
Compared to my mate 8 the galaxy s7 is much slower at opening apps and navigating through its own menus.
My Mate 8's settings menu is quick and speedy, it takes longer to start a stopwatch timer than it takes to load a menu in the mate 8 settings app.
The S7 you cant just throw the stopwatch away. It's too slow to navigate and even makes me feel like the settings screen has frozen when trying to load my apps list, scan for wifi, open the developer options menu and almost freezes when im at the apps list menu and load the system apps.
Unresponsiveness is never a problem on the mate 8 actually.
Galaxy S7 however has not responded in multiple areas. Screen taps missed, fingerprint scanner doesnt work sometimes and is also extremely picky you have to be DIRECTLY on that button. Not off by a single hair for that scanner to work. The response time on the screen is actually 6 times longer than the mate 8 too. 5ms on the mate 8, 30ms on s7.
The mate 8 being internationally unlocked at purchase only has google apps loaded on it. The s7 being a carrier phone from sprint has 6 sprint apps on it and a billion other things i hate. I don't like sports myself so having to spend forever getting all 10 sports apps off the thing is a pain. Especially since 3 of them cannot be removed, only disabled, thus eating up storage, 42MB 33MB and 16MB. Nothing too bad but still annoying. The thing also comes loaded with samsung's useless app list of about 10 or something apps. Most of which cannot be disabled or uninstalled such as samsung push. The rest is just.... other junk i dont use but found shocking to see on here. Facebook is now preloaded and untouchable. Cannot be uninstalled only disabled. I use a web browser personally because it saves battery and you dont need the messenger app either. Uber being useless because i own my own vehicle was also preloaded, but i could uninstall that. Other than the radio app, i couldnt uninstall only disable some apps. And the phone being only 32 gigs of storage on its onboard memory was eating up already 10 gigs of storage. with 22 left usable for me.
Other things id like to pick at are the screen. I cannot tell the difference between this phone's screen and the mate 8's. The fidelity is no better in comparison. Colors are slightly more vivid, but not enough to overlook this phone's numerous problems. Couldn't even use google maps to navigate home on the S7 from the sprint store due to the heat.
TL;DR
Doesn't compare to the smartphone king that is the mate 8. Feels more like a toy that burns your hand and pockets off. I guess thats why its waterproof so it can be cooled in your soft drink at dinner time. Very slow, very laggy, very unresponsive in comparison. I suppose it would be acceptable if it turns out i didnt have a better user experience. Im glad sprint offers refunds on their service because this phone is quite terrible. Sprint is too. Less than 1MBPS on their unlimited data plan. Rockin speed dude.
Man I can imagine pretty well what you're talking about. Before the mate 8 I used to own a Xperia Z5 (my brother has it now)... That SoC is burning almost all the time and is a quite annoying
Not a fanboy here but is in fact a shame all Samsung flagships still suffers from lags (and explosions too lol)
SD810 was an amazing heater that didn't burn anyone's pants but surely it burnt everyone's pockets
Yea, i forgot to mention that the phones ram management was awful. With the proprietary software running all at the same time i had a whopping 1.1 gigs of ram to use for my personal apps. It was a disgrace. 750 dollars for a POS like that. They should pay me to take it.
Just wanna say tho. The screen is the downfall of the phone. That was my first 2k screen device and wow. Battery drainer problem raiser there. It couldnt run tiny tower wothout lagging. My mate 8 was soaring through it. I will now avoid snapdragon and samsung. I own zero samsung products. Even the ssd in my pc is Sandisk. Samsung needs to stop. Ive had two of their phones and hated both. S5 and S7 both sucked. Heat issues and battery problems. Disappointing. Camt wait to get my money back. Also dont switch to Sprint my god was it bad. 1mbps download speed average.
Got SGS Note 4, you can find my topic also on the forum why I switched between them. Fuk samsung, never ever again
wow, after reading through this thread i feel VERY lucky coming from a nexus 5 and switching to a mate 8, happy on both counts!
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Its nice to hear people have the same experiences. Usually when i write fully thought out reviews with high detail i get ridiculed. Thanks for taking time to read this stuff so far guys. Appreciate it a lot
I had a Note 2 which I used for almost 3 years, until a year and half back. I then tried a windows phone, then 2 mid range budget phones. Also tried a borrowed Samsung galaxy for few days. Coming from something like Note 2, you dont have too many choices that will make you feel like it is an upgrade. Now got the mate 8, and it is here to stay like my Note 2! I really don't see many phones out today, there which will give you an upgrade impression from this one.
I glad that I got the Mate 8. It leaves almost everything else behind.
The battery is amazing, I have been using like crazy all day and night, and i recharge only next day! Easily 8+ hrs SOT, I charge before 20%.
They have really optimized this one for good battery. I am now attempting to take battery management to the next level by bringing the protected app list to almost zero, and using tasker in parallel to keep the notifications coming in 15-30m intervals.
The Mate 9 is apparently 20% more battery efficient with its more power Mali GPU. Thank god we ditch the mid range Mali T-880 for what power the Mali G71 MP8 can withold. According to their spec reveal the CPU itself is also 15% more efficient. The display will continue to be 1080p i suppose. Some of these shots display benchmarks performed at the 1080 resolution. I honestly do not believe a 2560x1440 screen res is worth it on a 6 inch screen. More like 60 inch. Cant wait for that upgrade. Hopefully its as smooth as this.
Wow, sucks to have your experience :/
I had no problems with my €150 Galaxy Ace 2 thanks to some great roms. I didn't stay long on stock.
My wife just moved back to Iphone after using a Note 4. She doesn't want any android again (even if I try to convince her samsung =/= android). But we are both enjoying my Honor 8 now.
Glad you guys still enjoy the mate 8 especially compared to other high end devices. Gives me good hopes about my Honor 8
We'll be loving thr mate 9 sure enough. Makes me want to get my hands dirty and hop in the kitchen to cook up roms for the mate 9 when it drops
I used to own a samsung galaxy mega 6.3 inch, first phablet and a good one...and the only samsung device i am positive about.
From that point i went to a huawei P7 wich was a good and nice phone when it was released, but after a year or so it already lost the game so i upgraded to a huawei P8 combined with a huawei mediapad M2 10.0 when the tablet was released, both outstanding devices but the P8 was stolen at a festival so i bought a Mate 8 and i really love it.
Now owning the M2 tab, Mate 8 and a Nexus 5x, all great devices.
I had a few samsung devices, and friends and family too... From my expierence compared to other devices, touchwiz was unstable, all kind of dumb bugs, low quality battery wich dies fast (i saw it in the battery life and charge time), all apps they bring that no one uses lol. The only positive samsung had was the camera (wich in this time is no more cause of the other OEMs), and the ability and available support of mods and roms... This is one of the big reasons people on xda bought a samsung. Its a shame that samsung gets so ****ty these days, but they have always been ****ty if you think about it..
I dont even want to buy a washing maschine or a fridge from samsung lol, i know that thing will fail on me in less then 2 years.
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I've never owned a Note but I've owned countless Android devices and iPhones too. I got my VZW pre-ordered Note 8 on Tuesday and have been using it a lot since then. This is by far the best phone (Android or not) I've ever used especially in terms of out of the box experience.
Coming from an S8 some thoughts:
- Super smooth and animations don't stutter at all - not sure how much of this has to do with 6GB of RAM and Android 7.1.1 (GS8 has 7.0)
- AMAZING multitasking - finally. My average free RAM has remained about 1.5GB (60-70% used) the last 48 hours. Apps that I haven't used for over 24 hours are still in memory and even multitasking heavy apps like Facebook, Twitter, browsers, etc. is no problem. FINALLY!
- Battery life for my usage has always been so-so on the GS8 the best I could get was 3.5hrs for example. Yesterday I took my phone to work and used it for the whole day without charging (9 hrs) and had 2 hrs of screen on time - left work with 60% battery life! That is incredible for me personally since again I have not done anything to tweak or optimize - everything is on and I used it heavily.
- The screen (even coming from a GS8) is just breathtaking. The quality, brightness and colors are awesome. Outdoors it gets so bright that it almost looks like an e-ink display. HDR videos on Amazon and Netflix look really great
- Fingerprint sensor location is not great but it's fine for me coming from GS8
- Camera seems as good as GS8 but haven't used it as much as I would like yet
- Size is perfect, it's tall but the width is perfect for holding and the keyboard is super comfortable (GS8 felt too narrow)
If you have any questions feel free to ask below. Thanks and for those waiting, it's totally worth the wait
Thanks for all these tidbits! I have been concerned with the lack of excited posts from people who have received the phone - this is awesome to see!!
Especially excited about proper RAM management. Thank goodness Samsung has learned!
Also really glad to hear that scrolling is smooth and no stuttering. Stupid test model had me worried. Thanks again for this post, I am so relieved and even more excited now!
What's your screen resolution op?
Out of the box, i read on one of these android reviews that the highest screen resolution is not selected out of the box, in order to maintain better battery life.
Since you didnt tweak anything according to your post, i assume you did not adjust the screen resolution?
I'm getting the note8 today and the first thing i will do is enable the highest screen resolution and make sure the battery performance is set to highest performance.
This will be my first every Sammy product so im looking forward to it. I have an asus zenfone 3 deluxe special edition with 6gb max and half a terabyte of storage. Ther hardware in it is top shelf but the screen is no where near the resolution of the note 8.
marctronixx said:
Out of the box, i read on one of these android reviews that the highest screen resolution is not selected out of the box, in order to maintain better battery life.
Since you didnt tweak anything according to your post, i assume you did not adjust the screen resolution?
I'm getting the note8 today and the first thing i will do is enable the highest screen resolution and make sure the battery performance is set to highest performance.
This will be my first every Sammy product so im looking forward to it. I have an asus zenfone 3 deluxe special edition with 6gb max and half a terabyte of storage. Ther hardware in it is top shelf but the screen is no where near the resolution of the note 8.
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Yes first thing I did was change to QHD resolution and I'm running at that since the first 5 mins of owning the phone. It does come at 1080p like the GS8 so I knew to change it. So I assume if you left it at 1080p it would be smoother, faster and last even longer!!
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Thanks for all these tidbits! I have been concerned with the lack of excited posts from people who have received the phone - this is awesome to see!!
Especially excited about proper RAM management. Thank goodness Samsung has learned!
Also really glad to hear that scrolling is smooth and no stuttering. Stupid test model had me worried. Thanks again for this post, I am so relieved and even more excited now!
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Yeah, everyone uses phones differently so hopefully it works for you!