How about that aluminum? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How does it compare to the new 6S+'s 7000series?
No bendgate here, right?
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How can anyone answer that? No-one has the phone yet.

Well I read somewhere it is aircraft grade aluminum. But that could mean anything.
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The back is rounded making it stronger anyway

What sort of aluminium do they use for aircrafts?

Hope its Titanium!

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What sort of aluminium do they use for aircrafts?
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All aluminum alloys, which is blended with other metals. The new iPhone is using 7000 series aluminum which is blended with zinc which gives it more strength. My guess is that the nexus is the same or 6000 series which isn't as strong but can be welded
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galaxys said:
Hope its Titanium!
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Last time I checked titanium isn't aluminum. And titanium scratches very easy. But at the same time it's extremely lightweight and strong. I would prefer titanium.
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6061 is one of the more common 6000 series aluminums and is strong enough for phones. Apples issue was their design with the aluminum which forced an area to be too thin because of their poor engineering. 6000 series aluminum is stronger than most things will need if you design your product correct and know the strength of said materials, how they deform etc...

Lets go for a Stealth device technology designed to avoid detection, reduce reflection/emission of radar, infrared, visible light, radio-frequency (RF) spectrum, and audio!

galaxys said:
Lets go for a Stealth device technology designed to avoid detection, reduce reflection/emission of radar, infrared, visible light, radio-frequency (RF) spectrum, and audio!
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Here are your new clothes, Emperor. Would you like a smartphone with that?

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Samsung galaxy s3 specs revealed !!!

http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...ones/samsung-galaxy-s3-specs-revealed-1066807
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Hope they have LTE in my area (Miami) by then
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The "source" of these rumors none other than BGR...
Nothing but a low class gossip website that will say anything for page clicks.
ap3604 said:
The "source" of these rumors none other than BGR...
Nothing but a low class gossip website that will say anything for page clicks.
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AN Apple fansite nonetheless.
Hope this turns out to be true. Ceramic chassis sounds really really nice and very industrial. Maybe they're going for the iPhone 4 look?
I hope they aren't trying to make it look like an iAnything. You think they would stay away from that especially in light of all Apple suing them for everything. Plus I'd love a unique awesome look!
Alucardis666 said:
Hope this turns out to be true. Ceramic chassis sounds really really nice and very industrial. Maybe they're going for the iPhone 4 look?
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if they were going for an iphone 4 look, they would make it look like broken glass.
looks nice...
Love exynos, but is this Samsung's first-generation of LTE?
I believe Samsung will be using a sister chip for the LTE, until they can perfect their own integrated solution.
They never did have their own solution - for radios they're using Infineon (now Intel) chips. The GS2 is XMM6260 or something like that, the next gen (not out yet, has LTE) is XMM7060.
Ceramic chassis? No thanks, I actually like plastic. It doesn't break or shatter and is extremely light. Also, I don't see a removable battery or external sd being done with that type of chassis.
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Nerz said:
Ceramic chassis? No thanks, I actually like plastic. It doesn't break or shatter and is extremely light. Also, I don't see a removable battery or external sd being done with that type of chassis.
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+1
Last thing I need is for my phone to shatter first time I drop it..
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Nerz said:
Ceramic chassis? No thanks, I actually like plastic. It doesn't break or shatter and is extremely light. Also, I don't see a removable battery or external sd being done with that type of chassis.
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Cermamic is incredibly strong and rigid in certain applications. It's used in racing components, as heat shield coatings, reinforments. It's even popular with thw aerospace industry. Very durable...If the S3 goes with a ceramic chasis, I'm sold.
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Love exynos, but is this Samsung's first-generation of LTE?
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It will be first generation LTE with the Exynos CPU. Skyrocket is LTE with SnapDragon S3 CPU.
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Nerz said:
Ceramic chassis? No thanks, I actually like plastic. It doesn't break or shatter and is extremely light. Also, I don't see a removable battery or external sd being done with that type of chassis.
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This. Coming from an iPhone 4 makes me appreciate the plastic backing of our phones. Won't chip from the slightest drop like my iPhone did.
Well, I'm leery of 1st-Gen LTE chips. I will not be an early adopter with the sgs3... Especially since Sammy will launch the sgs3+ two weeks later with the "super LTE" chips :-(
More rumors stating the GS3 will be the first phone to run a true 1080p screen beating out even Apple with their Retina screen. Not that you can really tell a difference on such a small device that at most would be used 3 feet away from your face.
http://pocketnow.com/android/galaxy-s-iii-to-feature-first-1080p-smartphone-display
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This. Coming from an iPhone 4 makes me appreciate the plastic backing of our phones. Won't chip from the slightest drop like my iPhone did.
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+1 here my buddy's Iphone 4 fell off his lap and chipped his back glass.
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As with others I would rather have plastic, Carbon Fiber would be neat though
Specs are not credible so no need to wish over them
First gen LTE on Exynos is what will make me pass... HSPA is more than fast enough for me and I see many bugs with it (LTE)
PeartFan40 said:
Cermamic is incredibly strong and rigid in certain applications. It's used in racing components, as heat shield coatings, reinforments. It's even popular with thw aerospace industry. Very durable...If the S3 goes with a ceramic chasis, I'm sold.
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This is true but i don't think these things get dropped much . Which even if it could withstand it, I just don't like the fact that most likely with the type of enclosure, it won't have a removable battery cover. Furthermore with the design behaviors currently leaning towards as few buttons and ports as possible, for that clean look, there most likely won't be and external sd card.
Although I'm just griping, I love Samsung phones, and I will most likely still get it if the temptation somehow pries me from my wonderful sgs2

About that replaceable plastic (Sammy) vs unibody (HTC) thing...

First of all I have to say, the Samsung Galaxy S3 looks veeeery good to me.
You want to know why?
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
2. Plastic, it's very sturdy and therefore less damage can happen when it's dropped e.g. to the floor. Drop an iPhone/HTC and get ready to call the service line.
3. Weight, plastic is the way to go if you want a thin and light phone. Some people here sound as if they would like a flipping phone made out of solid osmium (heaviest of all metals)
4. Replaceable components, seriously guys, UNIBODY MY ASS, I want to be able to replace the battery without having to send it to Samsung and wait for the service to fix it. On top of that Unibody doesn't allow you to buy a bigger battery for your phone (though I think the stock 2100 mAh already is good!)
And no SD Card slot like the HTC One X? LOL.
5. Sorry for my english
Those being just some arguments which definately make reasonable why Sammy doesn't choose as same path as HTC/Apple.
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
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I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Talking about similarities, just a couple of days ago I found this article very amusing..
Plastic is a terrible conductor of heat.
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edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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Agreed. I personally like the back cover of the Galaxy Nexus. I'm not a fan of high gloss. Some kind of texture would would have been nice.
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Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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It's only a bit of plastic on the back that I'm sure you'll be able to buy third party ones.
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The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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You can surely find lots of interesting faceplates and back covers for the SIII, even my Galaxy Ace has tons of awesome looking designs on a design store in an Indian Website(that's in english)
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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me too.
rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
i find it amusing that people think samsung doesnt use metal. the screen is bonded to a cast frame presumably aluminum but maybe magnesium on all the phones i have repaired. remove the battery and scrape the black area underneath with a sharp metal object if you dont believe me. the plastic they use is not only tough and fracture resistant but it's pretty much superficial.
now im sure htc has improved their designs but the evo was toy like in construction. thin cheap plastics and the pcb was a thin single layer design and the copper traces could easily seperate from the board. also the one i repaired had cold solder joints and the spring contacts they used in place or cables were falling off the board.
samsung does things that are frustrating from a development point of view but i never agreed with the quality argument.
well i'm looking forward to the s3 for the audio mostly. but i want to see what challenges the hardware offers aosp development. though i like touch wiz i dont expect samsung to support the device for more than 1 or 2 major updates. i have learned my lesson and will only buy the us version if it is the same hardware profile as the international version. and ill only buy an s3 if the bt and other hardware are aosp friendly.
Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Or this. Yours for only $89.
rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
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German cars do have a better quality , I know from experience. But I get your point its how you use the material.
I think the plastic on the back of my galaxy nexus feels great .
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Sim-1 said:
I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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I'm sure they will make a back that's matt just like the hox
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Yep replacement battery all the way!

Nice Battery Cover Replacement

I bought this on eBay thinking it was an aluminum case. I just got in the mail and opened it up to find it is a battery cover. I love it! Replace the flimsy one with the aluminum. It adds a bit of weight too. The stock cover goes in the box now.
Nice. Who makes that one?
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It clearly says it's a battery door replacement but I didn't read lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16082094015...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1287
Since metals are opaque to radio waves, your signal strength must have plummeted.
Full bars bro...
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ReggieTee said:
Full bars bro...
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Try it in an area where you don't have full bars with the battery door on and off. Or just read off decibel level of the signal from Settings/About/Status.
Bro.
I heard the aluminum back covers screw with nfc
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nabbed said:
Since metals are opaque to radio waves, your signal strength must have plummeted.
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Correction. Grounded metals are opaque to radio waves.
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jnadke said:
Correction. Grounded metals are opaque to radio waves.
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I don't think so. It doesn't matter if a piece of metal is grounded or not, it will absorb most radio frequencies.
It's $12 and looks good. If it affects anything, I have the option of removing it lol.
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And ordered 3 & clear cases to go over
Lol thanks
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Epix4G said:
You owe me 40.00 my wife saw this
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=160820596085&index=8&nav=SEARCH&nid=65699023939
And ordered 3 & clear cases to go over
Lol thanks
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lol sorry!
the metal case has to reflect/degrade signal, since that was a major issue with my Transformer prime and its all metal back. which people found that if they removed it or repositioned antennas that the signal would improve by a ton.
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I don't think so. It doesn't matter if a piece of metal is grounded or not, it will absorb most radio frequencies.
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I don't know if absorb is the word of choice. Without getting overly technical for the average person, metal impedes/obstructs radio signals severely if the antenna is inside of the metal enclosure or wall. Elevators are big metal boxes that kill signal really easily if you're inside them. Trees are big rf attenuators depending on the frequency of the radio. Even a hand or body very near or touching an antenna will greatly reduce your signal tx/rx. RF is a strange thing and can be affected both good and bad by many different kinds of external objects.
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I don't know if absorb is the word of choice. Without getting overly technical for the average person, metal impedes/obstructs radio signals severely if the antenna is inside of the metal enclosure or wall. Elevators are big metal boxes that kill signal really easily if you're inside them. Trees are big rf attenuators depending on the frequency of the radio. Even a hand or body very near or touching an antenna will greatly reduce your signal tx/rx. RF is a strange thing and can be affected both good and bad by many different kinds of external objects.
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I think absorb is the right word.
Here's a snippet from an Argonne writeup:
Electrons in metals can slosh back and forth in a piece of metal at slow frequencies, and so metals absorb radio at nearly all frequencies.
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http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99245.htm
I have to saw that with this cover the headphone jack is affected. It won't allow the plug to go all the way in and the sound is affected. That sucks.
Edit: This is incorrect. I didn't have it plugged in all the way.
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I think absorb is the right word.
Here's a snippet from an Argonne writeup:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99245.htm
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AFAIK, that site, and the person writing that article is wrong. I will have to ask someone I know who was an electrical engineer and amateur radio operator (extra class) if that gov site is correct. Everything I've learned about RF, before and after I got my radio license, tells me that guy is wrong. I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone either. I'm debating this issue. http://www.iphelp.ru/faq/9/ch02lev1sec6.html is a link explaining rf behavior in wlan situations, but the gist of it holds true with what I've learned with HF/VHF/UHF and microwave bands. If anyone here is a ham radio operator, please chime in with your input. The statement the scientist said that something needs to be a wavelength thick to affect rf is bs. Like I said before, I'm not trying to start anything with anyone. I am not saying I am smarter or better either. I just have had some training and hands on experience with antennas and building a few from scratch and testing their performance.
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AFAIK, that site, and the person writing that article is wrong. I will have to ask someone I know who was an electrical engineer and amateur radio operator (extra class) if that gov site is correct. Everything I've learned about RF, before and after I got my radio license, tells me that guy is wrong. I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone either. I'm debating this issue. http://www.iphelp.ru/faq/9/ch02lev1sec6.html is a link explaining rf behavior in wlan situations, but the gist of it holds true with what I've learned with HF/VHF/UHF and microwave bands. If anyone here is a ham radio operator, please chime in with your input. The statement the scientist said that something needs to be a wavelength thick to affect rf is bs. Like I said before, I'm not trying to start anything with anyone. I am not saying I am smarter or better either. I just have had some training and hands on experience with antennas and building a few from scratch and testing their performance.
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This is simple physics. Please don't fight science in your ignorance.
Gotta love how even the simplest debate on xda can end in one member attempting to belittle another.
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Gotta love how even the simplest debate on xda can end in one member attempting to belittle another.
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Everybody put ur flame suits on
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Galaxy S4 Initial Thoughts

Have to say that very impressed with some of the new features, Samsung have raised the bar yet again, and the super amoled screen at 441 DPI is as good as it gets, unfortunately it doesn't appear the build quality has changed, it might be slimmer but the same plastic build as I mentioned in another post I personally am sick of, if you are paying big money for a phone you really want it to be a premium build like the HTC One, of course I realise what is under the hood hood is more important but i personally am just tired of plasticky build and touchwiz forget about it,Nova Launcher is where it's at IMO., lost faith in Touchwiz a long time ago
To conclude, very impressed with many of the features but it just looks like a slightly larger version of our S3, when released will undoubtedly cost a fortune and no doubt will sell millions but i personally doubt I'll upgrade, I'll hang on another 2 months or so and see what is released , I'd buy the HTC One now if it had an SD slot.
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Whats wrong with plastic build, its not like the back cover fall off as you touch it. Would you rather have metal case which will most likely cost more incase of replacement? and wouldnt you put protective case on anyway?
If there is something wrong with s3 or s4, it would be due to firmware/software, not hardware...
There has been SOME issues regarding quality finish on s3 back cover, but that doesnt mean platic build = bad. Also, out of all the s3 sold world wide, how many do you think actually have those defects....
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This
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Samsung Galaxy SIII vs S4 (or any other phone) comparison
Really, Im not impressed... I would say that new SGS IV is SGS3 by small hardware and software liffting... Now i know that I don't want to buy it
Not impressed at all :/ Most of the features are software related, so we can expect that for our SGS3.
I'll go with HTC One...
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Whats wrong with plastic build, its not like the back cover fall off as you touch it. Would you rather have metal case which will most likely cost more incase of replacement? and wouldnt you put protective case on anyway?
If there is something wrong with s3 or s4, it would be due to firmware/software, not hardware...
There has been SOME issues regarding quality finish on s3 back cover, but that doesnt mean platic build = bad. Also, out of all the s3 sold world wide, how many do you think actually have those defects....
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As I mentioned this is just my own personal view, I just think it does not feel premium for the money you are paying, other manufacturers like HTC and Sony have released smartphones that are not only quality under the hood but also the build quality is premium, don't get me wrong I love my S3 but I feel the trend appears to be shifting towards premium build quality as well of course what's under the hood
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As I mentioned this is just my own personal view, I just think it does not feel premium for the money you are paying, other manufacturers like HTC and Sony have released smartphones that are not only quality under the hood but also the build quality is premium, don't get me wrong I love my S3 but I feel the trend appears to be shifting towards premium build quality as well of course what's under the hood
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Ha ha.......HTC premium build quality? Are you kidding? Likewise Sony.....you really need to take a look at what users say about them!
Who the heck wants a phone with a glass back? Or a battery you can't change that is under power in the first place.... peeling screens?...ask HTC......washed out display with poor viewing angles, poor battery life...ask Sony........I think by premium feel you mean heavy?! Plastic absorbs shock, cheap to replace and sure as he'll won't break like glass!
Ok each to his own, not impressed with the size, I wish they had kept the same size as s3. However listening to the specs, and hardware of the beast, I seriously felt as though my s3 was 5 years older. Let's be honest Sammy pulled one right out of the hat with the s4.
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Not impressed at all :/ Most of the features are software related, so we can expect that for our SGS3.
I'll go with HTC One...
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What?
CPU is octa-core instead of quad, 2GB ram instead of 1GB, 1080 screen instead of 720, better wifi, bluetooth and LTE. Hardware has had significant upgrade AND lots of software changes, iPhone releases are incremental, this is pretty substantial as far as I am concerned.
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Ok each to his own, not impressed with the size, I wish they had kept the same size as s3. However listening to the specs, and hardware of the beast, I seriously felt as though my s3 was 5 years older. Let's be honest Sammy pulled one right out of the hat with the s4.
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The S4 is narrower, thinner and lighter with the same height as the S3
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As I mentioned this is just my own personal view, I just think it does not feel premium for the money you are paying, other manufacturers like HTC and Sony have released smartphones that are not only quality under the hood but also the build quality is premium, don't get me wrong I love my S3 but I feel the trend appears to be shifting towards premium build quality as well of course what's under the hood
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Premium feel? Using Turkey foil to make a phone aluminium is the cheapest metal to use its extremely soft and offers no protection why do you think car bumpers are made of plastic, not aluminium? Because plastic absorbs impact.
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Ha ha.......HTC premium build quality? Are you kidding? Likewise Sony.....you really need to take a look at what users say about them!
Who the heck wants a phone with a glass back? Or a battery you can't change that is under power in the first place.... peeling screens?...ask HTC......washed out display with poor viewing angles, poor battery life...ask Sony........I think by premium feel you mean heavy?! Plastic absorbs shock, cheap to replace and sure as he'll won't break like glass!
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Lighten up mate you sound like a Samsung fanboy there, by all accounts I wouldn't be buying the HTC one on the basis it has no sd card slot, no removable battery is a bummer but I could live with that but not the sd card slot.
As for the Sony Xperia Z, some users have complained about poor battery life but after a few cycles battery life by all accounts is no worse than the S3 and if you tweak around you'll get even more
I'm a Samsung fan, indeed my last 2 phones have been Galaxy S2+3, but the S4 asides from some cool features is not worth upgrading in my opinion
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Ok each to his own, not impressed with the size, I wish they had kept the same size as s3.
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Are you not happy that the S4 is smaller than the S3? :-/
As a materials/metallurgical engineer I have to disagree with your comment. The "softness" of aluminium is exactly what makes it more able to absorb energy. Plastic in car bumpers is more of a cost/weight deal. Anyway, not really related to the S4 just sharing my thoughts!
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As a materials/metallurgical engineer I have to disagree with your comment. The "softness" of aluminium is exactly what makes it more able to absorb energy. Plastic in car bumpers is more of a cost/weight deal. Anyway, not really related to the S4 just sharing my thoughts!
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You are correct in saying that the aluminum scratches easily though!
DrDee said:
What?
CPU is octa-core instead of quad, 2GB ram instead of 1GB, 1080 screen instead of 720, better wifi, bluetooth and LTE. Hardware has had significant upgrade AND lots of software changes, iPhone releases are incremental, this is pretty substantial as far as I am concerned.
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Not really. While CPU does have 8 cores, only 4 of them can work at the same time. So while gaming what you'll get is more powerful quad-core CPU, otherwise there won't be any difference.
Who can be impressed seriously? Only those who never saw the S3... Which is NOBODY here
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Mubble said:
Are you not happy that the S4 is smaller than the S3? :-/
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I guess you mean SLIMMER?
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Plastic have more elastic deformation than metal. So, if you want something more flexible and resistant, it's obvious to use plastic.
What about the improvement at camera?
goja said:
Who can be impressed seriously? Only those who never saw the S3... Which is NOBODY here
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I guess you mean SLIMMER?
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It's the same height (136.6mm), it's narrower (69.8mm vs 70.4mm) and it's thinner (7.9mm vs 8.6mm) so YES it is indeed smaller than the S3.
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jonny68 said:
As for the Sony Xperia Z, some users have complained about poor battery life but after a few cycles battery life by all accounts is no worse than the S3 and if you tweak around you'll get even more
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Also looking at the Xperia, but seems it has poor camera for videos and the back made of glass make it as fragile as an iPhone, isn't it..? Battery, ah! What I know is Sony phone consume much less power in deep sleep!
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Warhero141 said:
It's the same height (136.6mm), it's narrower (69.8mm vs 70.4mm) and it's thinner (7.9mm vs 8.6mm) so YES it is indeed smaller than the S3.
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0.6mm smaller haha yeah if you want.. Since I'm not a fanboy, for me it's the same.
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Smart move by Samsung to release a device with these characteristics. Great hardware, sick soc, huge battery, SD card slot too
I just wish it was a bit more squared off on the edges. Also my hands are small so I don't care about the larger screen. My sgs2s screen is already pushing it.
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I recently purchased a galaxy S5 from the carphonewarehouse in the UK and noticed that my screen was slightly off-centre with a wider black space between the white bezel and the screen on one side and at the top. I went back into store to look at some of their display models and they all seemed to be off-centre either to one side or too high or low. I exchanged it for another device which still is slightly off centre but not as much as the original. Has anybody else noticed this. When I mean off centre I'm talking 0.X mm. Once you notice it though you cannot un-notice it. Its easier to notice when comparing each corner with the black spaces.
The best way to notice is to get a pure white screen up by saving a white image in the gallery.
I'd rather not notice it!
Didn't notice it here
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Who cares?
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louie875 said:
I recently purchased a galaxy S5 from the carphonewarehouse in the UK and noticed that my screen was slightly off-centre with a wider black space between the white bezel and the screen on one side and at the top. I went back into store to look at some of their display models and they all seemed to be off-centre either to one side or too high or low. I exchanged it for another device which still is slightly off centre but not as much as the original. Has anybody else noticed this. When I mean off centre I'm talking 0.X mm. Once you notice it though you cannot un-notice it. Its easier to notice when comparing each corner with the black spaces.
The best way to notice is to get a pure white screen up by saving a white image in the gallery.
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Yep mine has this too, noticed it first day out. Mine has a slightly thicker black boarder on the right side and bottom though...
that doesn't bug me as much as my home button, the silver boarder around it has a small 'gouge' in it where it looks like its slightly peeled up.. It's tiny, but still.. Fit and finish is a little 'rushed' for these phones I feel. but as long as it works, it's good therapy to calm my OCD that everything has to be perfect, so i'll learn to get over it
Yes my first one had a thicker bar at the top and on the left side. This one I have now is only off centre a tad to the right.
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Who cares?
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When you pay £570 for a device you would expect them to at least be capable of putting it together properly.
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When you pay £570 for a device you would expect them to at least be capable of putting it together properly.
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I can understand functional defects but this has to be about the absolute worst complaint I have ever heard about a phone. It does not affect your usage AT ALL. I used to work retail and hated to deal with people who would return a laptop because the printed T on the keyboard was slightly off centered. Get a grip on reality. Jeez.
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Are any of you mechanical engineers or familiar with production and automated manufacturing equipment. If you were familiar with them, I guarantee you would have a much greater appreciation for engineering put into a device like this. Not only from a design perspective but also from a manufacturing standpoint.
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I can understand functional defects but this has to be about the absolute worst complaint I have ever heard about a phone. It does not affect your usage AT ALL. I used to work retail and hated to deal with people who would return a laptop because the printed T on the keyboard was slightly off centered. Get a grip on reality. Jeez.
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Are any of you mechanical engineers or familiar with production and automated manufacturing equipment. If you were familiar with them, I guarantee you would have a much greater appreciation for engineering put into a device like this. Not only from a design perspective but also from a manufacturing standpoint.
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That's your opinion and I appreciate it, but I don't agree with it.
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I can understand functional defects but this has to be about the absolute worst complaint I have ever heard about a phone. It does not affect your usage AT ALL. I used to work retail and hated to deal with people who would return a laptop because the printed T on the keyboard was slightly off centered. Get a grip on reality. Jeez.
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Are any of you mechanical engineers or familiar with production and automated manufacturing equipment. If you were familiar with them, I guarantee you would have a much greater appreciation for engineering put into a device like this. Not only from a design perspective but also from a manufacturing standpoint.
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Lol. Dude, you spend good money on something, it's suppose to be right. Something like the screen being dead on center is to be expected. Come on man. It's the same when you buy anything of "quality" So what it doesn't effect performance?
Would you buy a brand new car and be ok with it having a huge scratch down the side of it before you leave the lot? Doesn't effect performance does it?
Didn't think so.
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Lol. Dude, you spend good money on something, it's suppose to be right. Something like the screen being dead on center is to be expected. Come on man. It's the same when you buy anything of "quality" So what it doesn't effect performance?
Would you buy a brand new car and be ok with it having a huge scratch down the side of it before you leave the lot? Doesn't effect performance does it?
Didn't think so.
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This isn't the equivalent of having a huge scratch on the side of the car. It's the equivalent of complaining that your A/C button has too much play or the logo on the hood is not centered by .003 microns. The type of precision you guys are requesting would fall in the medical devices category which falls in the thousands of dollars because the precision is exact down to the micron. If you are willing to pay $3000 to have a perfectly symmetrical phone, then I say you could complain. Absolutely ridiculous.
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This isn't the equivalent of having a huge scratch on the side of the car. It's the equivalent of complaining that your A/C button has too much play or the logo on the hood is not centered by .003 microns. The type of precision you guys are requesting would fall in the medical devices category which falls in the thousands of dollars because the precision is exact down to the micron. If you are willing to pay $3000 to have a perfectly symmetrical phone, then I say you could complain. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Ehh...I disagree. Your phone is with you all day and you probably stare at it more than anything else you own.
I think most here with disagree but hey it's all good!
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Ehh...I disagree. Your phone is with you all day and you probably stare at it more than anything else you own.
I think most here with disagree but hey it's all good!
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are you willing to pay $3000 grand for a perfectly symmetrical phone? I'm sure the inexactness of the display falls within quality control parameters. The type of precision you are requesting would cost a lot more than $700. Are you willing to pay more?
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This isn't the equivalent of having a huge scratch on the side of the car. It's the equivalent of complaining that your A/C button has too much play or the logo on the hood is not centered by .003 microns. The type of precision you guys are requesting would fall in the medical devices category which falls in the thousands of dollars because the precision is exact down to the micron. If you are willing to pay $3000 to have a perfectly symmetrical phone, then I say you could complain. Absolutely ridiculous.
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are you willing to pay $3000 grand for a perfectly symmetrical phone? I'm sure the inexactness of the display falls within quality control parameters. The type of precision you are requesting would cost a lot more than $700. Are you willing to pay more?
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$3000 to make a phone symmetrical made me chuckle quite loudly. Brb, my $18 dollar calculator on my desk has a perfect screen, brb, perfect display on my conference phone, brb the knife I am carrying has perfect blade centering, which is tougher to do then make the screen perfectly in the middle of a phone. HAHAHA. Bro..just....bro
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$3000 to make a phone symmetrical made me chuckle quite loudly. Brb, my $18 dollar calculator on my desk has a perfect screen, brb, perfect display on my conference phone, brb the knife I am carrying has perfect blade centering, which is tougher to do then make the screen perfectly in the middle of a phone. HAHAHA. Bro..just....bro
Solid troll effort though, had me for a second.
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Seriously comparing a calculator to a cell phone? I work in manufacturing. There is a reason that $2 worth of metal costs $100 when it is formed into an exact size down to .000001 of an inch. Samsung does not have quality controls or manufacturing processes in place to have this amount of precision. Why? Because it is unnecessary and I doubt they care that one whiner like you complains about the screen being off centered by .00001 inches. Do you think a metal hip replacement, which is only $50 in materials only costs $700 to produce? Since it has to be nearly exact in size, it costs a lot more than that. Stop being ridiculous.
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Seriously comparing a calculator to a cell phone? I work in manufacturing. There is a reason that $2 worth of metal costs $100 when it is formed into an exact size down to .000001 of an inch. Samsung does not have quality controls or manufacturing processes in place to have this amount of precision. Why? Because it is unnecessary and I doubt they care that one whiner like you complains about the screen being off centered by .00001 inches. Do you think a metal hip replacement, which is only $50 in materials only costs $700 to produce? Since it has to be nearly exact in size, it costs a lot more than that. Stop being ridiculous.
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The human eye can't detect .00001 inches lmao. Might see +/- .01 but not past that. From your dialogue, I highly doubt you work in manufacturing.
What do you manufacture? Footlong subs at subway?
Agree to disagree!
I work in medical devices manufacturing. I dare you not to look at the camera lenses also being off centered on the front and the back. Totally ruins the phone right?
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The human eye can't detect .00001 inches lmao. Might see +/- .01 but not past that. From your dialogue, I highly doubt you work in manufacturing.
What do you manufacture? Footlong subs at subway?
Agree to disagree!
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LMAO!! :thumbup:
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LMAO!! :thumbup:
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You pay lots of money for an expensive car. Do you really think from model to model that every single button, display, crevice, vent, molding has exactly the same spacing? Is the stitching on the upholstery symmetrical? Are all the printed logos exactly in the same spot for every part on the car? By your logic, if I'm buying a BMW that every single tiny little piece of hardware, no matter how insignificant should be absolutely symmetrical and perfect even if it does not affect the use of the car? Seriously. Instead of using ad-hominem attacks, why do you refuse to use logic?
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Or look at it from this standpoint. If you're Samsung, would you invest 10 million dollars in a new automated glass digitizer fusing machine that is capable of the precision you guys are demanding? It makes no sense to waste money on something that 1 in 30,000 people will complain about. They could tighten QC and have to rework or scrap thousands of display assemblies because one guy on XDA whined about the tolerance? Sorry. You lose.
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You pay lots of money for an expensive car. Do you really think from model to model that every single button, display, crevice, vent, molding has exactly the same spacing? Is the stitching on the upholstery symmetrical? Are all the printed logos exactly in the same spot for every part on the car? By your logic, if I'm buying a BMW that every single tiny little piece of hardware, no matter how insignificant should be absolutely symmetrical and perfect even if it does not affect the use of the car? Seriously. Instead of using ad-hominem attacks, why do you refuse to use logic?
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Or look at it from this standpoint. If you're Samsung, would you invest 10 million dollars in a new automated glass digitizer fusing machine that is capable of the precision you guys are demanding? It makes no sense to waste money on something that 1 in 30,000 people will complain about. They could tighten QC and have to rework or scrap thousands of display assemblies because one guy on XDA whined about the tolerance? Sorry. You lose.
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No one's going to respond to this bc they know your trolling. 10 million buys a jet. It doesn't take 10 million dollars to make a device to make screens dead center. Solid troll job though lmao. Pro status.

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