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I'm looking to change my 2013 Moto X but iIneed help to decide.
I'm between the Zenfone 2, Moto X play, Xiaomi Mi4i or Redmi Note 2.
Looking a phone to play many games and heavy use. I like the zenfone but i read that have many problems on the battery. Then appear the Moto X but idk if the gyroscope would be a sensor that is needed on many apps maybe. Then the are the xiaomi but they feel that doesn't have many support on development.
Help me decide please, need to change this old moto X.
Why not the Nexus 5x, slated for release soon?
Like said, by @dictionary I'll wait the LG nexus before buying something.
I'm too waiting but in Mexico would be a pain to buy it and the price it's never the same
I suggest you this device the battery is a beast and very soon custom kernels,roms will come out .
Just got it today and I'm really excited,coming from a z3 I can say battery life is at the same level maybe better!
I would strongly advise against getting the Moto x play
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I would strongly advise against getting the Moto x play
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Same here. Worst phone ever produced by a major OEM.
As long as you're OK with installing a custom rom and kernel, this phone is great. I don't do much gaming so I can't comment on performance there but in every other aspect this phone holds up great.
i am just curious what made you choose the moto z force. i am deciding between this and the lg v20. coming from the note 7.
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The battery mostly, plus, to a lesser extent, the mods and reading how fast and smooth it was.
Battery life, Shatter Shield, and Moto's seeming desire to remain as stock android as possible.
The Mods, especially the external battery mod, also played a big part. Being able to add on extra juice... I tend to be a heavy user of my phone and always kinda worry that I'm going to run out of juice.
I got it because I have had motorola in the past and like them. I had the Note 7 which I loved, but couldn't keep due to the fire issue. This phone had good reviews, fast, large battery. It is a very smooth phone. The negative is that I don't think that there are too many out there so development support may be less than with other phones. It is a good phone.
Most because the LG G5. I had 3 generations of Gs but considered the 5 a wrong step and looked for something else.
The Moto Zs are as unique as the Gs were.
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I got it because I have had motorola in the past and like them. I had the Note 7 which I loved, but couldn't keep due to the fire issue. This phone had good reviews, fast, large battery. It is a very smooth phone. The negative is that I don't think that there are too many out there so development support may be less than with other phones. It is a good phone.
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@Smithfolk4 i am so disappointed about the note 7. i can't seem to choose a replacement because nothing compares. how do u like it compared to the note 7?
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@Smithfolk4 i am so disappointed about the note 7. i can't seem to choose a replacement because nothing compares. how do u like it compared to the note 7?
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I agree it is not the Note 7, but the Z Force is a very good phone. Maybe the next best. You might like the S7 Edge, but I am not a fan of the curved screen and the Edge has a more pronounced curve. Maybe the Pixel XL? I haven't seen one of those. I do really like the Z Force. I wish it had an LED indicator, but I am getting used to the notifications on it and they are fine once you get used to them. I certainly recommend this phone as very good.
I had an original Moto X and loved the ecosystem. The battery was a plus, and definitely why I chose the Force over the non-force Z. The mods are cool, but really had nothing to do with the decision.
I did not have a Note, but had the galaxy phones 2-5, I can say it is hard at first to get used to coming from touch wiz, but a million times better when you get used to it. My coworkers who are note owners...or past note owners envy my phone and talk about how much better and more responsive it is.
I guess to better answer this question it would be helpful to understand your typical usage but my overall experience with it is amazing.
The camera is amazing for a non dslr including low light photo and video. I took a video recording at a concert and was blown away by the audio and video quality.
I played minecraft on max settings hosting a multiplayer world and using a bluetooth controller and performance felt on par with the PS4.
I have used it for running a bluetooth scantool for automotive diagnostics and was impressed by the speed at which it could perform a full scan. Rivaled only my high level ($1,000+) scan tools.
I use it for remote desktop use at work while in the field with a bluetooth keyboard for true desktop computing with no issues.
Project cars has apps which run with the video game and the response is great with no noticable latency.
Controlling Chromecast works extremely well as well as screencasting to include emulators.
Runs fPSe, a playstation emulator with not problem at all.
As you can see I use it for a wide range of things, I could go on but dont want to bore you with irrelevant information based on your needs and expectations of a device.
I too am trying to decide between the LG V20 and the Moto Z Force. Anyone regret the Force? think maybe you should have got the regular Z or the Z Play instead?
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I too am trying to decide between the LG V20 and the Moto Z Force. Anyone regret the Force? think maybe you should have got the regular Z or the Z Play instead?
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i ended up goong with the v20. will try it out and if i dont like it, i can restock it for $35 and get thr z force.
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i ended up goong with the v20. will try it out and if i dont like it, i can restock it for $35 and get thr z force.
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No way for me to compare to a V20, but I've had a Z Force since the first week and have been very happy with it. I had a LG G4 before and there's no comparison in terms of build quality. My G4 failed twice under warranty and always felt cheap. The Z Force feels like a slab of steel in your hand, it's awesome.
I had gotten used to the LG style Android., but the Moto's nearly stock approach is really nice. The only thing I really miss is that you can't switch the "back" and "menu" buttons, which I did because I prefer the back button on the right for easier one-handed operation. Can't do that on the force (without root, which isn't possible yet/ever on my Verizon phone) but I got used to it soon enough.
I do not regret the Force and feel I should have gotten the others, and I am on verizon prepaid the only place that would let me pre order was best buy for $800 said the jbl mod was free but just added the price to the phone. I am glad I got that though, I was going to get the incipio mod and dont feel I have the need for it now.
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Most because the LG G5. I had 3 generations of Gs but considered the 5 a wrong step and looked for something else.
The Moto Zs are as unique as the Gs were.
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you and i are on the same boat. I left motorola for the lgg2, then g3, upgrade was coming up and g5 disapointed me then i saw the moto z force and started to love it
I like the Moto take on Android. Shattershield has value to me (I didn't feel the need for insurance). Good battery life. Only have the speaker mod but it's good. Camera may be a tick behind the very best, but quite good. The phone is very fast and fluid.
I'm a Moto fan, using the Z force it's one of the best Moto handsets I ever used, design wise, performance and the Moto mods, really it's unique.
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I have had Motorola since bag phone days, and law enforcement radios prior to that. They know radios, hence phones. Tired of rooting and looking for something for a couple of years. Really like the Z Force.
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I've been hoping for an announcement regarding the Moto X 2016. I currently have the Moto X 2015 and love the phone. I don't want the Moto Z due to the higher price and lack of front facing speakers. If there's no Moto X 2016/2017 what will you get?
I'm currently looking at the ZTE Axon 7. It has everything I was hoping for in this year's Moto X except Moto's awesome customization features to stock Android. It also has an awesome QHD AMOLED display, dual front facing speakers, fingerprint scanner on back, all aluminum build, support for microSD, support for dual SIM cards, and runs the same processor as the Galaxy S7 all at a $399 price tag. Reviews are amazing aside from the camera and it seems to be similar to the camera on my Moto X Pure. I can live with that.
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TBH, this will likely be my last Moto phone... Moto is not Motorola and the respect for customers and devices that Motorola had is gone under Lenovo, whether there is a Moto X 2016/2017 model or not, I won't be getting one.
The Axon 7 looks solid, but at this time I will probably stick with my MXPE, if I had to replace it today it would be a solid contender, along side the OnePlus 3, or the new LeEco devices announced today look interesting, or I would probably grab a sub-$200 budget or used device temporarily.
I see the Android market changing, with LeEco and Xiaomi bringing phones to the US market (or soon to be), other Chinese manufacturers will likely follow suit, which could bring about a revolution in the mid-range price and device category.
We had OG Droid Turbos. Decided that I wasn't wanting to deal with Lenovo anymore so we jumped over to the Note 7, and we all know how that went. So I was able to pick up MXPs for $250 each to tide us over till next year. As soon as the Note 8 or whatever the replacement for it is released, we are gone from Moto again.
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If I'm honest I have no idea. Decided for now to stick with X Style. I bought a OnePlus 3 the other week from a phone store but by the time it came to picking it up I'd decided it wasn't enough of an upgrade. Trying one in the shop it didn't feel all that faster than the Style though sure the benchmarks would say otherwise. No stereo speakers and although amoled, wasn't as bright. Not to mention Moto display, double twist for camera and double chop for torch.
I'll consider an X Style/Pure 2016/17 if there is even one. True, Lenovo have gone downhill as far as updates are concerned. It's to be seen how/if an upgrade to android 7 goes.
So I still like my X Style. If it fell under a bus tomorrow then maybe an OP3. More probable I'd get another X Style! I've looked Moto Z and not keen. Other than that I've considered a Samsung GS7 and even the Note 7. Axon 7 could be a contender but unavailable in the UK currently.
My Moto X Style is still stock and not had the urge to root or load a custom room. Works day in day out. Battery lasts most days but turbo charge it either by mains or vehicle soon tops it up. I have a tempered Glass screen protector but don't bother with a case and never takes any harm. I work outdoors in a rough manual environment. I still think as phones go it's underrated.
No more Moto for me. As a T-Mobile customer with the XT1575, and having the VoLTE choppy audio almost this entire year, and Moto not providing a fix but almost promising the fix will be in N if it ever gets released, I don't have any reason to give them any more of my money.
My wife's Honor 5x has been solid on CM13 and I am eyeing a pair of Honor 8 phones @ Best Buy for $400 each. I may wait for a price drop and CM14 as EMUI is a bit irritating at times.
Now that Lenovo seems to be killing the Moto brand, I hate Samsung software, LG has some hardware solder issues, I am beginning to like the one plus
A lot of folks are going with the Google Pixel XL phones, but I cannot stomach that ridiculous $800 price. About the only phone I would have purchased for near that price would have been the Note 7 had it not 'gone up in flames'. Thankfully I still have my MXPE trucking on, so I'll wait till next fall and decide then with whatever is available at a decent price. Maybe by then the Pixel XL's will come down in price from the stratosphere.
I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
I like this phone, but I don't like the direction moto is trending. Nexus is dead.
OnePlus is looking like the best choice remaining for a modder/enthusiast.
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I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
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Gets good enough reviews.
I said earlier that the Axon 7 wasn't available in the UK but I'm wrong as amazon have them. Price seems to have gone up to £482. It's got too expensive so off my list now. I'd pay a little more and buy a Moto z.
If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
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The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
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My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Mysterious-Motorola-device-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
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My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Myst...-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
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Saw that but I'm not convinced at all. It looks exactly like the Moto X Style/Pure except the bezels look a little more narrow. The picture is blurred except for the viewable screen. Even the most novice of Photoshop users could recreate this. For that matter, even the most basic photo editing software could do a better job than what is seen.
I plan on sticking with my Moto X Pure for a while. It performs very well in my opinion on the stock firmware, I've tried several ROMs and IMO it is hard to beat Moto's stock Android. The Snapdragon 808 is plenty powerful for day to day usage. I do a bit of 3D gaming as well, and with Nougat comes Vulkan, which is becoming more common, so that should help satisfy my need for graphics performance a while longer.
I went with the Axon 7. The hardware is essentially an updated Moto X Pure. The software is just as buggy but it looks like ZTE is so far responsive to making improvements.
TBH, I don't really see the need to upgrade my phone anymore.
I think specwise the number can keep getting bigger and bigger but for me, the specs that a phone truly need had peaked already.
I was really interested in the Moto Z and the Hasselblad camera attachment but I can't take the price at the moment. I received the MXPE for free so I can't complain too much about it. I am considering rooting because I want gravity box to change the navigation buttons and the dpi but I won't be doing much more than that.
Maybe this time next year when the new Pixel is on the way I'll get one of those or the Moto Z
it's hard decision since there is no true moto x alternative right now ;\ decent specs with great price and stock up to date android, since google killed nexus there is no other phone like that. Hopefully I don't have to make this decison yet because I've bought this phone few months before so I'll keep it for next few years.
the xiami mi mix looks very nice, with nova launcher - im really thinking of getting it, but will hold on until reviews come out
If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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Ditto! This was my first ever android phone, and I am totally dejected by the build quality and lackluster support.
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If the leaked screenshots are accurate, both devices seem to be very similar regarding specs.
I think the are only two major differences: the screen (IPS LCD vs Super AMOLED) and the battery (3080 vs 3510). The battery is not a big deal for me, and the screen... I don't know. Right now I have IPS LCD and I'm happy (though with higher PPI).
On the other hand, I guess the Moto G5 Plus life span will be longer, as usually the G series have a very broad community behind. Moto Z Play doesn't seem to be so popular, just for the battery duration.
So what do you think? Is it worth it to wait for the G5 Plus, which according to rumors will be released in less than a month? I'm expecting the price to be slightly lower than the Z Play, guess around 350€
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The question is: Why are you asking this in the moto g4 plus forum and not in the Z play forum? Z play is available so people there can told you, but here the people cannot?!
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A wouldn't bother with Motorola anymore o thanks to Lenovo but ur choice
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+1
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The question is: Why are you asking this in the moto g4 plus forum and not in the Z play forum? Z play is available so people there can told you, but here the people cannot?!
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because the G5 Plus is the evolution of the G4 Plus. It's more expected that someone from the same series (G) move to the newer model instead than someone moving from the flagship series (Z).
to all the others complaining about Motorola, why are you in this section? Go away if you don't like it
wait for the G5
I'd wait for the G5. I'm very happy with my G4 plus, my next phone will definitely be in this series. Unless Motorola implodes....
I bought G4 plus a week ago. It's a great phone. But I think You should go for Nokia series though. I bet the nokia like always will provide more durability than the Chinese. I used 6 Nokia phones before G4 plus, all of them were bomb. Still If you want a better display with slightly better battery life, you should wait.
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I bought G4 plus a week ago. It's a great phone. But I think You should go for Nokia series though. I bet the nokia like always will provide more durability than the Chinese. I used 6 Nokia phones before G4 plus, all of them were bomb. Still If you want a better display with slightly better battery life, you should wait.
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You know that now Nokia is only a name? There will never be Nokia quality like in good old times! It's a smartphone and at the top are letters telling you "Nokia".
It'll be interesting to see how the Nokia 6 (and the rumoured Nokia 8) fare, see if HMD Global/Nokia are back to their former glory. Also remains to be seen if the Moto G5 actually matches up to the rumoured specs too!
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You know that now Nokia is only a name? There will never be Nokia quality like in good old times! It's a smartphone and at the top are letters telling you "Nokia".
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Yeah but the people who worked on the phone are all Nokia veterans. They used to work for Old Nokia. And with the first sell they had in China I think Nokia has the potential to gain back the reputation they lost due to Microsoft. I am not saying you are wrong, This is just my opinion as I used to be A Nokia fanboy.
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Yeah but the people who worked on the phone are all Nokia veterans. They used to work for Old Nokia. And with the first sell they had in China I think Nokia has the potential to gain back the reputation they lost due to Microsoft. I am not saying you are wrong, This is just my opinion as I used to be A Nokia fanboy.
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+1 Nokia fan boy let's hope you're right and Nokia will find back to the old quality
I am a Z Play user so I would recommend it to you, because it has frontal flash, Moto mods, bigger battery and USB Type C. Regarding to custom ROMs, it's not so popular because it was released 3 months ago, but it has lineage OS (camera is in process to be fixed) and surely other ROMs will come out. Every device takes some time to become popular and have custom ROMs, so if you like custom ROMs and are going to wait for G5, you will have to deal with it. Greetings
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I am a Z Play user so I would recommend it to you, because it has frontal flash, Moto mods, bigger battery and USB Type C. Regarding to custom ROMs, it's not so popular because it was released 3 months ago, but it has lineage OS (camera is in process to be fixed) and surely other ROMs will come out. Every device takes some time to become popular and have custom ROMs, so if you like custom ROMs and are going to wait for G5, you will have to deal with it. Greetings
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Do Moto mods work in a non stock ROM?
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Do Moto mods work in a non stock ROM?
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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You need to port libraries etc. It's quite difficult
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You need to port libraries etc. It's quite difficult
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I trust developers, they're very knowledgeable. Developers of Moto Z are working on this too
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Not yet, but I'm sure they will someday
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In my past experience something that requires porting libraries is only supported in stock based Roms and not ones based in AOSP or CAF. ( Kind of like Moto Display)
I hope it does though.
I wasn't sure where to put this thread so I decided to put it here because the Nexus 5x was one of the last devices of the Nexus line. The Nexus line meant a lot to me because I owned 4 Nexus products. A galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus Q. It makes me nostalgic. Does anyone still miss the Nexus Line? I am going to be so sad when they removed the 5x and 6p from the Google store .
I've owned 4 I believe as well. Nexus s 4g, Nexus 7 gen 1, Nexus 6 and currently I swap between a LeEco Le Max 2 and Nexus 5x. There is no experience like what you would get on those devices. Very nostalgic and a very tight community. These devices will definitely be missed when they are removed.
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I have lik... 4 or 5 Nexus 5's. It was easier to just buy a new one on ebay. I loved that phone - now I love the 5X, it's sad to see that the Pixel isn't going to be a good replacement.
Any suggestions for a future upgrade? Needs to of course be fully root/mod supported like the 5X..headphone jack.. fingerprint sensor (got used to unlocking with it on my N5X), prefer: swappable battery / SD card / Qi charging, anything out there / coming out like that?
Motorola was the second closest thing to the Nexus line. I had a first generation x and third generation x. The first generation Moto x was like a Nexus. Those were nostalgic times. Lenovo ruined Motorola now. Motorola is inconsistent with their light skin. All of their phones have 7.1.1 and the weird icon pack except for the dialer and you can only enabled the battery percentage next to the icon on the z series and they removed moto maker. I also don't get why they have a 3gb variant in India and a 2gb variant in the states (for the base model 2gb of ram is terrible!!
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I have lik... 4 or 5 Nexus 5's. It was easier to just buy a new one on ebay. I loved that phone - now I love the 5X, it's sad to see that the Pixel isn't going to be a good replacement.
Any suggestions for a future upgrade? Needs to of course be fully root/mod supported like the 5X..headphone jack.. fingerprint sensor (got used to unlocking with it on my N5X), prefer: swappable battery / SD card / Qi charging, anything out there / coming out like that?
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The moto G5 plus is a great option. I was actually deciding between an ice blue Nexus 5x and a moto G5 plus. I'm consistently able to get 7 hours of sot and it's a great value but make sure you get the 64gb variant. It's nothing to do with the storage but it has 4gb of ram(the base model has 2gb of ram). This device is well supported but I'm assuming that Motorola is only going to push out one update because the third generation Moto g only got on update and the 4th generation wasn't supposed to get Oreo(only the plus is getting Oreo). It's pretty much a Nexus except it won't be getting monthly security patches.
I loved the shield tablet. I got the original one and it beat Google's support. It got a lot of bug fixes and stability updates. It also got updates all the way from KitKat to nougat. Nostalgic times.
I'm glad that Google came up with Android one. The moto x4 android one is like the new Nexus 5x. The Nexus 5x was a great phone but it should have had 2 instead of 3gb of RAM and a snapdragon 810. The ice blue color looked beautiful.
The Nexus line really died with the 5. I bought a Nexus 5X, but even that was when the prices started to climb. It wasn't horribly expensive, but it's clear other manufacturers can build phones with similar hardware cheaper. The Nexus line always had community support, was decent hardware, at a great price point. The Pixel really is none of that, it's Google wanting to be the next Apple, and failing. I've owned many Nexus devices, starting with the Galaxy Nexus, and ending with the Nexus 5X (with several in between). I have 6 Nexus tablets in the house (3 Nexus 7s, 3 2013 Nexus 7). With the release of the Pixel, I went elsewhere. We now have two Huawei phones, neither which I'm really impressed with, but they had official Lineage support. So perhaps next I'll try OnePlus? On the tablets I'm picking up Samsung T813/T713 to replacing the Nexus 7s 2013s as those have Official Lineage support.
I much preferred the ease of Nexus line, and the hardware. However I'm not going to support Google's current hardware strategy, much less there's not much development behind their new devices anyways. I haven't tried a Motorola perhaps I should try one of those, they've been releasing several phones that are affordable with impressive specs, with bootloaders that can be unlocked.
After decidedly poor Nexus 5X phone (with only 2GB of RAM in 2015, bootloop of death, poor charging, and a half broke Oreo update) and Nexus 9 with only 32GB of storage and no expansion card slot, I sure won't miss this line in future. Android still desperately needs a good selection of mid-range devices. Perhaps Huawei Honor or Oneplus will be it in future, but Huawei does have the reputation of using nonstandard skin and less developer friendly.
Don't buy a moto device if you are going to stay on the stock rom. Lenovo has ruined Motorola. I miss the time when there was only the g, e and x series and I remember getting the lollipop update on my first gen moto g a few days after my friend got it on his first gen moto x. Now Motorola is weird. They have so many phones the g5, g5 plus, g5s plus, g5s, e4, e4 play, z2 play, z2 force, x4 and x4 Android one. I don't know why they decided to turn the x series into a mid ranger. Also the z2 force is so expensive, has a small battery and a decent camera. Also all the phones are running different software. They are either running 7.0 or 7.1.1. It's not like they are all on 7.0 or 7.1.1. Motroala intended the g series to get 2 major software updates but Lenovo has decided to give it 1 major update and a few security patches. Lenovo bought moto when I had a g3. I was so hyped to get nougat but Motorola didn't give it. After I saw the g4 I thought it was a great buy but the phone was only supposed to receive nougat. The only reason why the g4 plus is getting Oreo is because it was accidentally written on Motorola's website that the g4 is supposed to get nougat and Oreo. The worst part is it's only the g4 plus and not the g4. I used to like Motorola until Lenovo bought it. The first 3 moto G, x and e phones were good and the moto x4(android one edition) and why did Motorola release the g5s series. I feel like Motorola is trying to make g5 owners feel bad. The g5s has a 5.5 inch screen and a dual camera. I can't say anything on the dual cameras but I wish I had a 5.5 inch screen on the moto g5s plus. Also it costs $400 but no USB C? Honestly a one plus 3t or 5 is a better buy. Motorola is headed down a dark path and the company is a mess. I might ditch moto unless the g6 comes with 4gb of RAM as the base model and has USB c. Motorola is headed down a dark path according to me. I might buy the first gen pixel XL or the next one plus. Motorola said "Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
*Based on the Android 8.0 Oreo Announcement on August 21, 2017."
paradoxiumwind said:
I have lik... 4 or 5 Nexus 5's. It was easier to just buy a new one on ebay. I loved that phone - now I love the 5X, it's sad to see that the Pixel isn't going to be a good replacement.
Any suggestions for a future upgrade? Needs to of course be fully root/mod supported like the 5X..headphone jack.. fingerprint sensor (got used to unlocking with it on my N5X), prefer: swappable battery / SD card / Qi charging, anything out there / coming out like that?
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Is the Nexus 5X your daily driver and what color do you have. Quartz, black or ice blue?
Nexus is my backup phone to my company phone (various including galaxy s5, s7, and iphone). It's sad to see the demise of the nexus product family, but it's not surprising. The quality of the nexus line has been terrible and the support has been terrible. People put up with that because the phones were decent in terms of price and performance. Since google has is going down a different path (a dead-end path), hopefully other vendors like oneplus or nokia will take up where google abandoned nexus.
I'm currently using a 5x that I inherited from my son. It was brought back from the dead by getting a motherboard replacement under extended warranty when the original died due to the boot loop defect. Previously I used a 5, also inherited. This phone recently died due to the boot loop problem caused by the defective power button. The most common phone in my extended family is nexus 5, by far.
I really liked the clean simple design of the 5. I like that the 5X is larger, but the camera protrusion really detracts from the design. The 5 performed okay, but now that I'm using the 5X, I realize how slow the 5 was. If the 5X had more ram and a faster processor, it would be the perfect phone for me.
I can't relate to the obsession with "premium" appearance (i.e., metal and glass). Current flagship phones feel nice in your hand, but if you drop them, they are finished. So you need to put them in a case. In a case, all that matters is the display.
Google has dropped the ball so badly in so many ways. Pixel is a disaster. The phones are overpriced and have too many flaws. Google's quality control is garbage. Their support is garbage. They are mismanaging android, due to the fragmentation. As much as I hate apple and as much as I think ios is a mediocre OS, the one thing they have done right is keep the herd running the latest OS. I have the latest OS on my company 5s. This phone is older than a nexus 5 and it has the same OS version as the iphone X. Google abandoned the nexus 5, yet apple is keeping the 5s up to date exactly the same as an x. Things like this are why apple is eating google's lunch, but google is too stubborn and too stupid to see this. They don't support their own phones, so how can they expect the oems like samsung to keep their phones up to date?
bimmerdriver said:
Nexus is my backup phone to my company phone (various including galaxy s5, s7, and iphone). It's sad to see the demise of the nexus product family, but it's not surprising. The quality of the nexus line has been terrible and the support has been terrible. People put up with that because the phones were decent in terms of price and performance. Since google has is going down a different path (a dead-end path), hopefully other vendors like oneplus or nokia will take up where google abandoned nexus.
I'm currently using a 5x that I inherited from my son. It was brought back from the dead by getting a motherboard replacement under extended warranty when the original died due to the boot loop defect. Previously I used a 5, also inherited. This phone recently died due to the boot loop problem caused by the defective power button. The most common phone in my extended family is nexus 5, by far.
I really liked the clean simple design of the 5. I like that the 5X is larger, but the camera protrusion really detracts from the design. The 5 performed okay, but now that I'm using the 5X, I realize how slow the 5 was. If the 5X had more ram and a faster processor, it would be the perfect phone for me.
I can't relate to the obsession with "premium" appearance (i.e., metal and glass). Current flagship phones feel nice in your hand, but if you drop them, they are finished. So you need to put them in a case. In a case, all that matters is the display.
Google has dropped the ball so badly in so many ways. Pixel is a disaster. The phones are overpriced and have too many flaws. Google's quality control is garbage. Their support is garbage. They are mismanaging android, due to the fragmentation. As much as I hate apple and as much as I think ios is a mediocre OS, the one thing they have done right is keep the herd running the latest OS. I have the latest OS on my company 5s. This phone is older than a nexus 5 and it has the same OS version as the iphone X. Google abandoned the nexus 5, yet apple is keeping the 5s up to date exactly the same as an x. Things like this are why apple is eating google's lunch, but google is too stubborn and too stupid to see this. They don't support their own phones, so how can they expect the oems like samsung to keep their phones up to date?
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Yes I agree in so many ways. Google used to be great. I remember so many people used to have Nexuses( or nexi?) back in the day but most of the people I know have switched to an OEM like Samsung or LG. One of my friends is a hardcore Nexus fan. He has had all the Nexuses except for the 6p and Galaxy Nexus. He currently has a 5x and I wonder what he's gonna do because he only likes stock Android. I'm not even sure where the pixel is headed. I still have my doubts about the first and second generation pixel. I don't even know why Google decided to add the edge sense feature. In the past the phone, charging cable and charging brick was made by the company who made the hardware of the phone and the software was always stock Android (no additional features) but for the pixel they are adding to the software with unique features. I also hate Motorola. I'm not a fruit fan but I gotta admit they are doing pretty good so far. Their devices are still supported and their geekbench scores are just amazing. I don't know what to upgrade to. I only want stock Android but there's no way I'm gonna buy a pixel(even if I have the money for it) and Motorola is headed down a dark path. Huawei seems like a great company (with their AI and machine learning which is impressive) but their software looks ugly. Their icon pack reminds me of the gingerbread days. I don't like TouchWiz and LG's UX seems sluggish (I still haven't gained their trust after the bootloop issue). I might buy a one plus 5t but I'm not sure. I generally buy mid range phones and I really wished I could have bought the moto x4 android one edition. I want to stay out of Samsung and LG mid rangers because there are so many of them, they have underpowered processors and they are most likely never gonna get any future updates. Also, they don't have a true mid ranger which rivals against other mid rangers like the g5 plus and honor 6x.
DarthMaul14 said:
Yes I agree in so many ways. Google used to be great. I remember so many people used to have Nexuses( or nexi?) back in the day but most of the people I know have switched to an OEM like Samsung or LG. One of my friends is a hardcore Nexus fan. He has had all the Nexuses except for the 6p and Galaxy Nexus. He currently has a 5x and I wonder what he's gonna do because he only likes stock Android. I'm not even sure where the pixel is headed. I still have my doubts about the first and second generation pixel. I don't even know why Google decided to add the edge sense feature. In the past the phone, charging cable and charging brick was made by the company who made the hardware of the phone and the software was always stock Android (no additional features) but for the pixel they are adding to the software with unique features. I also hate Motorola. I'm not a fruit fan but I gotta admit they are doing pretty good so far. Their devices are still supported and their geekbench scores are just amazing. I don't know what to upgrade to. I only want stock Android but there's no way I'm gonna buy a pixel(even if I have the money for it) and Motorola is headed down a dark path. Huawei seems like a great company (with their AI and machine learning which is impressive) but their software looks ugly. Their icon pack reminds me of the gingerbread days. I don't like TouchWiz and LG's UX seems sluggish (I still haven't gained their trust after the bootloop issue). I might buy a one plus 5t but I'm not sure. I generally buy mid range phones and I really wished I could have bought the moto x4 android one edition. I want to stay out of Samsung and LG mid rangers because there are so many of them, they have underpowered processors and they are most likely never gonna get any future updates. Also, they don't have a true mid ranger which rivals against other mid rangers like the g5 plus and honor 6x.
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If you're looking for a mid-range android phone, there aren't a lot of options, especially if you like a "pure" android.
My son has a oneplus 5 and he likes it, except for the fingerprint reader and the camera, which he doesn't like at all. It's a decent phone and the 5t will be an improvement. The nokia 8 looks pretty nice and the nokia 9 should be an improvement.
Pixel doesn't interest me at all. The 2 XL is too large and the 2 is just a warmed over pixel. It looks like it's a couple of years old, which it basically is. It's a lazy poor excuse for a phone. I'm so disgusted with google, they would have to knock it out of the park before I would buy another one of their phones. Their service and support suck and their products are hardly impressive.
There isn't a lot of love for samsung, but I was happy with the GS5 and the GS7. I could be happy with a GS8 or GS9. The two things I don't like about samsung are touchwiz (which isn't nearly as bad as it used to be) and knox, but you can live with them.
Guess I'll chime in with a little something of my own.
Back before the 5X was released, everybody dumped on it because the 6P coming as well, the "superior" version. And, to an extent, everyone was right to do so. The 6P had superior specs in everyway. But I still went ahead and bought my 5X on launch and I was happy, for a time. Then, the boot loop happened. What's funny about that, is the fact that it was virtually unheard of (correct me if I'm wrong), until the issue became insanely widespread at the same time, more or less a year later. And then, it started happening with the 6P. I think a little less severe than the 6P, but still happening nonetheless. So I got my replacement, which Google honored even though the warranty was way out, and I continued to enjoy my 5X. Because honestly, this device was really good for it's time. But the truth is, that time was very short lived because shortly after the release of these devices, better things started coming out almost immediately and instantly the 5X felt dated. But! It was kept alive by the wonderful dev scene we have here.
With that being said, this phone is just past it's prime, and now we're in the Pixel era of the Nexus line, which just costs too damn much (and even have their own sets of hardware problems) so I'm looking to finally pass this phone on. I've been eyeing the 5T a lot since the rumors about it started. Snapdragon 835 processor, same as the recent flagships of this year, a decent camera that can hold it's own against the competition, a beautiful design (yes, whatever, it looks like an iPhone knockoff but I truly love that design), decent sized battery, fingerprint reader on the back where it should be. The 5T is ticking all of the boxes I'm looking for in my next smartphone upgrade. I don't really care that the screen isn't QHD or whatever because honestly, any screen is gonna be better than the 5X, so I'm truly not missing out on much. The only thing I know I'm gonna be upset about, is the sacrificing of first-in-line Android OS updates. No matter how much a company boasts about how near stock Android is on its device, there's always gonna be a wait for updates, rather than getting it immediately as soon as Google pushes it. That's something I'm gonna have to get used to, leaving the Nexus line. But at this point, the upgrade is well worth it.
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Honestly I feel like the Nexus 5x would have been an awesome phone. I don't care if it's made of plastic, if it has a large camera bump and if it doesn't have a qhd display. If Google would have decided to put in the same snapdragon processor as the 6p and 3gb of ram, then it would have been an awesome phone. There's something about the color and design of the phone which I love. The ice blue color looks beautiful and honestly the black and quartz white. If it didn't have the bootloop issue and if it had the same specs as the 6p I would have bought it over my g5 plus which I currently own. The 808 was ok but my friend said that it could barely run Snapchat. I can't believe that the life time of the 5x is coming to an end. It felt like Marshmallow was yesterday. It's going to receive 8.1 and maybe a few security patches. I'm glad that Google decided to extend the time the 5x gets updates for. Honestly I feel like 8.0 is going to drain battery so 7.1.2 is what 5x users should stay on. I still can't understand why I love the design of the 5x so much. It's hard to look for a phone running stock Android and that gets updates first for a mid range(ish) price *cough cough pixel*.
DarthMaul14 said:
Honestly I feel like the Nexus 5x would have been an awesome phone. I don't care if it's made of plastic, if it has a large camera bump and if it doesn't have a qhd display. If Google would have decided to put in the same snapdragon processor as the 6p and 3gb of ram, then it would have been an awesome phone. There's something about the color and design of the phone which I love. The ice blue color looks beautiful and honestly the black and quartz white. If it didn't have the bootloop issue and if it had the same specs as the 6p I would have bought it over my g5 plus which I currently own. The 808 was ok but my friend said that it could barely run Snapchat. I can't believe that the life time of the 5x is coming to an end. It felt like Marshmallow was yesterday. It's going to receive 8.1 and maybe a few security patches. I'm glad that Google decided to extend the time the 5x gets updates for. Honestly I feel like 8.0 is going to drain battery so 7.1.2 is what 5x users should stay on. I still can't understand why I love the design of the 5x so much. It's hard to look for a phone running stock Android and that gets updates first for a mid range(ish) price *cough cough pixel*.
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Yeah it's a real shame that the Pixel line is such a disappointment. I mean, no headphone jack? ****ing hell google.
Ikr. Is Google turning into Apple. Pixelbook: Pixel 2: pixelbuds = 12 inch MacBook:iPhone 8:airpods.
The Nexus support officially kind of ended yesterday. Android P Dev 1 came out and the Nexus 5x and 6p don't officially support it.
DarthMaul14 said:
The Nexus support officially kind of ended yesterday. Android P Dev 1 came out and the Nexus 5x and 6p don't officially support it.
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Security updates, Nexus 5x and 6p will receive until Nov 18. After 5th Nov 2018 , bye bye official support. Thanks to 3rd party developers to bring us next version of android.