Normal Space utilization on stock S5? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, so for once I have a stock, unrooted phone, AT&T S5. Ever since the last firmware upgrade I've been getting a lot of storage issues, so I started looking at things and none of it makes sense to me. I use an sdcard for just about everything, but this is how the storage breaks down at the moment on the internal storage :
16gb total
11.5 gb in 'internal storage' - meaning, as I understand, 4.5gb of OS partitions
This is where things get squirrely
1.28 gb of used user files
1.5gb free
0 gb cache (i just emptied it.)
So, about 8+gb are in unnamed 'system, but not os' files. Wtf??
The way I read this it I have 3gb of usable space - shared with cache (that within days goes to 1.5gb+) on a 16gb phone. Meanwhile, I went through and moved just about anything of size to sdcard. I have a fair number of apps, but not an extreme amount and nothing that unusual.
So, is this normal? And is there a way to figure out what is stealing that 8+gb of space without root and maybe remove it??
Part of me suspects it is some non-cache temp files - esp firmware updates (there have been a few, and they are large, and things seem to get worse after each firmware push.
Thanks,

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[Solved] Internal space missing. (or gone, disappeared)

So I had my S4 (i9500) on Omega v10. I wanted to install a game but it wouldn't install saying there wasn't enough space. After checking the storage I found something weird happening. The phones internal showed 500mb available. From which Applications took 5GB and Misc took 2GB.... so i deleted all files under 2GB. It still showed device has 500mb left so i wiped caches etc to see if the number updates. no go.
So I full wiped and stuff from recovery and flashed Omega v11 hoping it would fix it. But to my surprise the internal has 8.90GB available (which I understand is normal) and then 4.90GB free....
Well then wheres the other 4gb? I looked at all folders through root explorer to see anything unusual but nope. System folder is about 2gb and internal sd after wipte is 3.90gb... I am at a dead end. What do I do?
Figured it out, seems like clockworkmod recovery was the culprit. It was backing up to internal sd card too. Those who have a similar issue check the files at /mnt/shell/~

S4 i9500 2,4GB of 16GB, files take up 4x more space

Hi i just noticed that my s4 even though has a 10GB phone storage partition and a 2.4GB internal storage partition actually only uses 2.4GB of it. Everytime i install something in phone memory it takes many times more space than reported in the 10GB partition. When connecting to PC in storage mode it also only shows 2.4GB but memory management says that only the phone storage is unavailable but internal memory is available.
I got an error that it storage was full and deleted a 500MB app data file which freed 4GB of space on the storage.
I have tried erasing the phone storage and iti did not work. If i cannot use the full space than i wont be able to install custom roms since they require a lot of space.
Ever since i got this phone it has not lived up to its specs. I cannot access the thermometer, humidity sensors through weather station either.
I really need help to get the phone working
System Error Message said:
Hi i just noticed that my s4 even though has a 10GB phone storage partition and a 2.4GB internal storage partition actually only uses 2.4GB of it. Everytime i install something in phone memory it takes many times more space than reported in the 10GB partition. When connecting to PC in storage mode it also only shows 2.4GB but memory management says that only the phone storage is unavailable but internal memory is available.
I got an error that it storage was full and deleted a 500MB app data file which freed 4GB of space on the storage.
I have tried erasing the phone storage and iti did not work. If i cannot use the full space than i wont be able to install custom roms since they require a lot of space.
Ever since i got this phone it has not lived up to its specs. I cannot access the thermometer, humidity sensors through weather station either.
I really need help to get the phone working
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ok i verified it was a fake. it beat the fake checks shown by various articles and videos until i did a factory reset and it turned into some other device running stock google android with a bit of touch ups. It was even sold at the same price as original.

[Q] Question about storage size

I have a new to me S4 and it should be the 16GB version. However when I check the storage size when connected to the computer it says that I have 5.47GB free of 9.71GB total. Is this normal? Where is the other 6GB?
And a follow up question, using file explorer it says that there three storage locations: /Device, SDcard, extSDCard. So it looks like the internal memory is split into two parts, one for the OS (/Device) and another "SDCARD" for data? Is that correct? If I don't mind losing data, can I delete files from the internal "SDCard" or are those files also necessary for the OS?
First and foremost, the "16GB" of space is actually 15GB, since advertising defines 1GB as 1 billion bytes instead of 2^30 bytes as it is actually defined by the OS.
Next, from that 15GB of space, you've got roughly 5GB or so that's reserved for the system, drivers, firmwares, etc. The remaining 9.71GB of space is where your apps and anything else saved to your internal storage go. You *can* use the "move to SD" option to move apps if you're running low on space, but I wouldn't advise it unless absolutely necessary. Unless something's changed since Gingerbread, only certain apps can be moved, and even then any widgets those apps have will NOT function if you've moved the app. (yes, I know I'm off by .3GB, but I think that's just from rounding)
Apps and most of their data are saved to the location /data, but you can't access that unless you're rooted. Some of them make use of either the internal or external storage (/sdcard and /extSDCard) as well, but it all depends. Safest bet is to keep away from the folders "Android" and "data" on /sdcard, since that's where apps will sometimes dump files they need to run. Also, if a folder name is similar to an app name, use caution since it might be part of the app.
I'm not sure on /Device to be honest, since I'm running a custom ROM and haven't really paid attention to that one. I don't think it's the OS though, since you normally aren't supposed to be able to use a file explorer to browse around the OS files.

Finding available internal memory

Hi all, just seeing if anyone can tell me why the storage screen says I only have 1.5gb of free memory when DiskUsage says I should have a lot more?
I have rooted my phone and using Xpower rom.
Pics attached. Thanks everyone.
Curiously, I ran into the same problem yesterday after a session of flashing new firmware and restoring backup of my phone. It had never occurred before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/z5c-reporting-incorrect-storage-size-t3564059
Someone in this thread said the problem went away after a few reboots. I've rebooted about 3 times now, still shows 16GB available instead of 32GB.
I'll probably do some more flashing/restoring later on to see if that fixes anything.
You're showing pictures of different mounting points.
/internal shown in second picture is it's own virtual partition
/system shown in last picture is also it's own partition and has its own free space
The free space shown in android storage will only display the free space on the virtual data/internal storage so it looks perfectly fine to me.
Also external sdcard won't add to virtual internal data storage.
pitrus- said:
You're showing pictures of different mounting points.
/internal shown in second picture is it's own virtual partition
/system shown in last picture is also it's own partition and has its own free space
The free space shown in android storage will only display the free space on the virtual data/internal storage so it looks perfectly fine to me.
Also external sdcard won't add to virtual internal data storage.
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Oh ok. Thanks for the reply. My total internal storage is meant to be 16gb. This is why I thought the two screenshots formed (most of) this 16gb.
So based on your information, where has the rest of my internal memory gone? The first DiskUsage screenshot says I have 8.24gb in total storage. Is the rest not usable because it's a private system partition?
Also I've attached another screenshot. Is it normal for the internal system to use up 7.76gb?
About 8GB for a Sony Android system ROM sounds about right, lots of bloatware and included apps. On a 16GB Sony phone, half is available for photos, music and apps/apps data.
That's why you should never buy a phone with only 16GB in 2016/2017. My Oneplus 3t with 128GB is a hair saver. ?
pitrus- said:
You're showing pictures of different mounting points.
/internal shown in second picture is it's own virtual partition
/system shown in last picture is also it's own partition and has its own free space
The free space shown in android storage will only display the free space on the virtual data/internal storage so it looks perfectly fine to me.
Also external sdcard won't add to virtual internal data storage.
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pitrus- said:
About 8GB for a Sony Android system ROM sounds about right, lots of bloatware and included apps. On a 16GB Sony phone, half is available for photos, music and apps/apps data.
That's why you should never buy a phone with only 16GB in 2016/2017. My Oneplus 3t with 128GB is a hair saver.
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Ack. Ok, I'll try remove bloatware then (although I thought Xpower did already).
Yeah I broke my beloved z1c camera and thought z5c would be a nice replacement... Really wanted a small phone.
kickling said:
Ack. Ok, I'll try remove bloatware then (although I thought Xpower did already).
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Uninstalling uninstallable bloatware will reclaim a few MB of space, but removing preloaded system bloatware won't help much in freeing up usable space. The system partition is a fixed size, generally inaccessible, and any unused space in there isn't counted towards total available free space.
BTW, I thought you were asking about the 16GB total space in the first snapshot in your original post. The Z5C has 32GB internal storage space, not 16GB. Just thought you should know.
mhaha said:
Uninstalling uninstallable bloatware will reclaim a few MB of space, but removing preloaded system bloatware won't help much in freeing up usable space. The system partition is a fixed size, generally inaccessible, and any unused space in there isn't counted towards total available free space.
BTW, I thought you were asking about the 16GB total space in the first snapshot in your original post. The Z5C has 32GB internal storage space, not 16GB. Just thought you should know.
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.... Say what?! I'm supposed to have 32gb? Why does my storage screen say I've only got 16gb? 16gb hidden system?
kickling said:
.... Say what?! I'm supposed to have 32gb? Why does my storage screen say I've only got 16gb? 16gb hidden system?
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Well, that's what I was trying to say in my original reply up there. I assumed you were confused about the anomaly in total internal storage, something that I recently experienced and was also reported by some other folks.
I've found a supposed solution after a bit of Googling, but I'm not sure if it's the right answer. I plan to test it out later on.
But yes, you're supposed to have 32GB total internal storage, inclusive of all partitions hidden or otherwise. After deducting the OS and stuff, there should be 21~22GB of usable free space left.
mhaha said:
Well, that's what I was trying to say in my original reply up there. I assumed you were confused about the anomaly in total internal storage, something that I recently experienced and was also reported by some other folks.
I've found a supposed solution after a bit of Googling, but I'm not sure if it's the right answer. I plan to test it out later on.
But yes, you're supposed to have 32GB total internal storage, inclusive of all partitions hidden or otherwise. After deducting the OS and stuff, there should be 21~22GB of usable free space left.
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Well then. I feel dumb!
Coming from the z1c I guess I've gotten used to having 16gb internal memory.
mhaha said:
Well, that's what I was trying to say in my original reply up there. I assumed you were confused about the anomaly in total internal storage, something that I recently experienced and was also reported by some other folks.
I've found a supposed solution after a bit of Googling, but I'm not sure if it's the right answer. I plan to test it out later on.
But yes, you're supposed to have 32GB total internal storage, inclusive of all partitions hidden or otherwise. After deducting the OS and stuff, there should be 21~22GB of usable free space left.
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..... I'm reading that you either need to reflash firmware, or if you're lucky repair the system partition in Twrp.
TBA...
kickling said:
..... I'm reading that you either need to reflash firmware, or if you're lucky repair the system partition in Twrp.
TBA...
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Yes, I can confirm a complete fresh flash of stock firmware restores the total space to 32GB. I didn't touch the system partition, so I'm not sure whether a repair of system in TWRP would do anything, and there's no means for me to test it now.
Hopefully, a restore of my nandroid backup will preserve the correct total storage space.
EDIT: Yup, restore successful and total space is 32GB. FWIW, the "solution" I mentioned earlier was a discussion for a Nexus device, and it said it's necessary to restore stock recovery first. Not sure the exact cause of problem or actual solution to fiz the problem, but anyway reflash worked for me.
mhaha said:
Yes, I can confirm a complete fresh flash of stock firmware restores the total space to 32GB. I didn't touch the system partition, so I'm not sure whether a repair of system in TWRP would do anything, and there's no means for me to test it now.
Hopefully, a restore of my nandroid backup will preserve the correct total storage space.
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Twrp system repair did not fix it.
Time to flash....
If you have twrp in boot, this problem happens.
The device ends up making the system read only, and then gives you the left over /data
Then when a function calls ro.hardware, its inaccessible.
You won't be able to fix it if you don't have TWRP in the recovery partition. When you do a restore, you'll get put in to a boot loop, if anything other than the data partition is selected
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3564059

Samsung J3 (2016) - internal memory almost full - who's using it?

I've got an almost fresh and empty J3 (2016) with stock Android 5.1.1
One of my friends has been complaining about low internal memory warnings.
So I installed TWRP and got it rooted.
It shows the following:
System memory - 7,02 GB
Used space - 664 MB
Available space - 310 MB
And when I do a TWRP backup, it says - ok, system partition is approx 1.4 GB, data 800 MB. In total, full system backup is slightly more than 2 GB.
Where did the rest 6 GB of internal memory go?
Mind you, there is *no* pictures, no video, no apps, nothing.
Wiped cache/dalvik.
But 5 or 6 gigs are still missing. Whats wrong with this picture?
Maybe there's a hidden partition? Can you give me a hint how to visualize ALL internal memory, all available partitions? And possibly kill and resize the useless ones.
I'd greatly appreciate it!
MiMuerto said:
I've got an almost fresh and empty J3 (2016) with stock Android 5.1.1
One of my friends has been complaining about low internal memory warnings.
So I installed TWRP and got it rooted.
It shows the following:
System memory - 7,02 GB
Used space - 664 MB
Available space - 310 MB
And when I do a TWRP backup, it says - ok, system partition is approx 1.4 GB, data 800 MB. In total, full system backup is slightly more than 2 GB.
Where did the rest 6 GB of internal memory go?
Mind you, there is *no* pictures, no video, no apps, nothing.
Wiped cache/dalvik.
But 5 or 6 gigs are still missing. Whats wrong with this picture?
Maybe there's a hidden partition? Can you give me a hint how to visualize ALL internal memory, all available partitions? And possibly kill and resize the useless ones.
I'd greatly appreciate it!
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friend, delete all the parts by twrp and install the stock by odin again that solves

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