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I'd like Active Display(breathing) more if it wasn't so sensitive...

It's definitely not a battery issue, but it bothers me whenever the slightest tap sets off the clock popup. I don't think it's a case issue since I use a light-weight one (Poetic slim case). I would like to think that the context-processor responds to the disruption in the magnetic field which is why it's so sensitive. I can't test this though.....Does anyone happen to have a flip cover for the Moto X?

I use an app called uListen so I can stream YouTube videos with my screen off. I've noticed that app makes the active display go nuts.
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It acts when the phone moves simulating you picking it up. When I'm on my recliner it activates every time I move in the recliner. It does what it is meant to do I like it for checking the time and not having to activate the phone.
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Turn the phone over so the screen is facing down. Problem solved.

I love it. I pick the phone up and just swipe to wake. Then with a Nova Launcher gesture (swipe up to toggle Quick Settings) and a custom Sleep tile in the bottom right thanks to GravityBox, I've probably cut my mashing on the power button by probably 95%. I barely have to touch it anymore.

I love the active display but it does annoy me when I'm driving. I stick it in the cup holder and every time the truck moves, the screen turns on and I can see it out of the corner of my eye. And I don't know if anyone else lives in PA, but trying to avoid the potholes and inevitably hitting one keeps the screen on almost the entire time...
I also found I now pick up my Nexus 7 expecting the screen to turn on automatically

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I also found I now pick up my Nexus 7 expecting the screen to turn on automatically
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Hahaha, I've done the same with my Galaxy Nexus and even my wife's Razr Maxx.
PA here too... and the potholes have become unbearable.

I really like the sensitivity... I think its great that it will pop on virtually anytime I move the phone, but not to the point of wasting my battery. I swear there have been times where I could just wave my hand over the phone and it would flick the time and lock up, but maybe it was just in my head.
I hear ya all on the Nexus 7 deal, I do the same from time to time, just expect it to turn on. Would be something easy for Google to add moving forward though.

deathsled said:
Turn the phone over so the screen is facing down. Problem solved.
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Well that just defeats the purpose of the active display
But mine is very sensitive as well. Even when there is no movement I will see it go on . Doesn't really bother me. Only when I use another phone...I end up shaking the phone to get the active display to show
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kbluhm said:
Hahaha, I've done the same with my Galaxy Nexus and even my wife's Razr Maxx.
PA here too... and the potholes have become unbearable.
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Just got back from PA. Shredded my low pro tires
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mister2quick said:
I love the active display but it does annoy me when I'm driving. I stick it in the cup holder and every time the truck moves, the screen turns on and I can see it out of the corner of my eye. And I don't know if anyone else lives in PA, but trying to avoid the potholes and inevitably hitting one keeps the screen on almost the entire time...
I also found I now pick up my Nexus 7 expecting the screen to turn on automatically
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Do you Assist app for driving? I've noticed that after I'm driving for a couple minutes the phone must turn down the active notifications as it won't turn on with little bumps. Sometimes it won't even turn on when I pick it up.
But sitting in my house, it'll turn on every time I bump it.

Cover the proximity sensor and it'll assume it's face down or in your pocket.
The proximity sensor is on ALL the time, and it is used in conjunction with the accelerometer to turn on the screen. If you don't want it to turn on in certain situations, do the above.
I cover it with my microfiber screen wiping cloth sometimes when I want it face up but without AN.

double tap to wake

Does anybody know if the screen on the Moto X Pure supports this function? Its certainly nice to not have to pick up the phone to take a quick peek at the screen.

I really would like it to be but i dont think it will im coming from a G4 and its one of the best features

once we get root and make a kernel

i think you can move your hand over it to get active display on from there you should be able to wake i think

It wakes before you touch the screen by just reaching for it. Far better than double tap to wake
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txaggies07 said:
It wakes before you touch the screen by just reaching for it. Far better than double tap to wake
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I agree. The phone will wake when you wave your hand over it. So if there is dirt or anything unpleasant on your hands, you don't have to touch the phone at all to wake it. This is better than 2x tap. And if your phone is on the edge of something, there isn't a chance that you will knock it down, since you won't have to touch the phone.

D2W is old school. Say hello to waves.
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Waving isn't not a replacement for double tap... No one should assume that. Some folks love double tap. I hope to see it added soon

Waving is less reliable also. I have to wave a few times to wake it up sometimes. That did not happen with d2tw on other phone I tried.

I like the wave, but I do miss dt2w that takes you directly to your home screen. But to be honest, 95 % of the time I did dt2w, I was checking the time or seeing if I had any messages and didn't need to go to my home screen, so the wave is pretty cool in that fact.

Waving isn't a replacement true, I would of liked to see dttw as well its a good replacement since when u hold ur phone with one hand using ur thumb to do so and wake up the phone
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You don't have to wave. The screen wakes as you approach it. The screen comes on long before you can double tap..

i hope we can get the double tap to wake soon. the waiving thing is kinda janky doesn't work all the time and would like it to bring me to the full lock screen rather then a dark black screen .

I have to admit I am kind of spoiled by it from my G2. My X won't be here until next week so the jury is still out on the wave. At least I know i can double tap off once I get my Nova loaded.

I actually miss double-tap to lock/sleep more. The waving is cool enough for waking it back up, but having to mash the power button to lock it sucks.
I found a couple of transparent widgets that kind of do this, but the problem is that they are incompatible with Trusted Devices (BT, NFC) that I use a lot, and you have to reenter your pin if you use these widgets.
I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too....

pinoymutt said:
I actually miss double-tap to lock/sleep more. The waving is cool enough for waking it back up, but having to mash the power button to lock it sucks.
I found a couple of transparent widgets that kind of do this, but the problem is that they are incompatible with Trusted Devices (BT, NFC) that I use a lot, and you have to reenter your pin if you use these widgets.
I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too....
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you can use nova launcher to double tap the status bar to get the phone to sleep.

brusslesprouts said:
you can use nova launcher to double tap the status bar to get the phone to sleep.
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No s**t? I've been using Nova for the past couple years and didn't realize it.
EDIT: looks like it's a Prime feature. I guess it's time to pony up some $$$ and give the dev some well deserved cash

pinoymutt said:
No s**t? I've been using Nova for the past couple years and didn't realize it.
EDIT: looks like it's a Prime feature. I guess it's time to pony up some $$$ and give the dev some well deserved cash
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apex has it too i believe and its free

brusslesprouts said:
apex has it too i believe and its free
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I like Nova much better, and probably should give the dev some support. Thanks though!
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EDIT: maybe spoke too soon. I was reading it may not work with SmartLock (Trusted Devices) -- meaning I would have to reenter my password if I use the feature which kind of defeats the purpose of SmartLock

http://techpp.com/2015/03/13/android-double-tap-screen-wake-sleep-guide/ seems to work

How do these sensors work?

So there's two ir at the bottom and one at the top. When I wave my hand by the top ir it wakes up the moto display but when I wave it by the bottom ones nothing happens? I do see the red or lights on them. But are the bottoms ones supposed to be for something els.
Or Is there a certain way of motion?
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I am noticing the same thing, this is my first moto x so I would like to understand how the sensors work.

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So there's two ir at the bottom and one at the top. When I wave my hand by the top ir it wakes up the moto display but when I wave it by the bottom ones nothing happens? I do see the red or lights on them. But are the bottoms ones supposed to be for something els.
Or Is there a certain way of motion?
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From playing with the sensors it looks like the bottom set only respond to the reach gesture. The top one only responds both reach and wave. Seems deliberate
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Do I have to wave over the bottom sensor or hover? Neither way works when I "reach".

garyHal said:
Do I have to wave over the bottom sensor or hover? Neither way works when I "reach".
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I'm these are enabled by default. Check to make sure they still are. If your phone is not responding when you grab it you might have a defective unit.
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Same
Same thing happening here. I'm wondering if I should just exchange it.

mine does nothing when i wave my hand over the bottom half ....i have to reach my hand over the phone or wave over it
it does come on every 2 seconds though by itself while I'm driving

tmzbeme said:
mine does nothing when i wave my hand over the bottom half ....i have to reach my hand over the phone or wave over it
it does come on every 2 seconds though by itself while I'm driving
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That's because the phone also senses motion when putting on its back.
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how to wake up the device? only by pressing the power button????

I was a Samsung guy but now with the new x play , how to wake up the device? only power button????
It is so uncomfortable......Samsung always have a button on the screen

Unless you've adjusted settings, just pick it up and then swipe on the screen.

what settings exactly pls?

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what settings exactly pls?
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Moto Display settings. Every time the phone is lifted from a surface, nudged or pulled from a pocket, the display should show a B/W lockscreen with the clock and notification icons.

the only problem is it last 1s only not giving enough time to swipe.......maybe I have a faulty device

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the only problem is it last 1s only not giving enough time to swipe.......maybe I have a faulty device
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Lol really

First world problems: it's so difficult to press the power button on the side of the phone.
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Well, been a Samsung guy for the last 6 years so yes it is difficult
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Guys, really there is no double tap or wave to open?
I was just about ready to upgrade my Moto X and then realised this and I am so dissappointed. .. the wave to wake was so convinient....

Fekish said:
Guys, really there is no double tap or wave to open?
I was just about ready to upgrade my Moto X and then realised this and I am so dissappointed. .. the wave to wake was so convinient....
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you don´t want to buy the moto x anymore because you have to press a button to wake up the phone ??? omg

Fekish said:
Guys, really there is no double tap or wave to open?
I was just about ready to upgrade my Moto X and then realised this and I am so dissappointed. .. the wave to wake was so convinient....
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treibstoff said:
you don´t want to buy the moto x anymore because you have to press a button to wake up the phone ??? omg
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It is possible to implement it in the kernel. It will be done, eventually

treibstoff said:
you don´t want to buy the moto x anymore because you have to press a button to wake up the phone ??? omg
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Well, there are so many phone out there, why chose a phone that does not suit me?
Did you have a Moto X 2nd gen? You know how comfortable was to just hover your hand when it was lying in order to check either time or if you have a message?
Now you have to click the side button or is there another way?

Fekish said:
Well, there are so many phone out there, why chose a phone that does not suit me?
Did you have a Moto X 2nd gen? You know how comfortable was to just hover your hand when it was lying in order to check either time or if you have a message?
Now you have to click the side button or is there another way?
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I've just bought a Moto X Play, and it did take an hour or so to get used to the swipe-the-dot to unlock it, that's because I was swiping in the wrong direction lol.
But seriously, just pick the phone up or pull it out of your pocket to check or swipe.

anyway, i dont know why it seems so weird?
The sensors are so usefull and comfortable and phones get continiously improved, that i am very surprised about it.
If all improvements were neglected and seemed strange, i would have stayed on my Sony Ericsson P900...

On my Moto G Lte and Moto X Play using Gravity Screen with only proximity sensor uses here on both phones only 0,2-0,3% a charge according to Gsam. Other options in that app like movement use a lot more battery so have that disabled in that app.
Now screen off: put device face down on table, etc. Or put in pocket or bag.
Screen on: pick faced down device up. Pull out of pocket/bag. Or wave over proximity sensor next to top speaker grill on the right.
As extra screen off without using power button I have set: slide up home button=Greenify+lock screen. Double tap home screen and/or status bar with Apex or Nova launcher. A sleep button in Quick Setting and Power Tools.
Moto's lighting up Active Display was also far to short for me. But more irritating was the so often unneeded lighting up of display and keeping device awake according to Wakelock Detector. When device in bag or pocket while walking or driving. Putting glass on table. Moving leg in bed. Even when heavy trucks drive trough the street where I work.
So now using Moto Ambient display. Only lighting up screen after missed call or text. Idle drain is now less than wirh Active Display.
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Fekish said:
Guys, really there is no double tap or wave to open?
I was just about ready to upgrade my Moto X and then realised this and I am so dissappointed. .. the wave to wake was so convinient....
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I understand you. It was a nice feature and strangely one of the main advertising features of last year's moto flagship. Now it is gone and nobody wants to talk about it. I want it back, but don't want to exchange against battery life and the camera of moto x play. And I miss my wooden battery cover. The style's battery is to small battery [emoji41]
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grossermanitu said:
I understand you. It was a nice feature and strangely one of the main advertising features of last year's moto flagship. Now it is gone and nobody wants to talk about it. I want it back, but don't want to exchange against battery life and the camera of moto x play. And I miss my wooden battery cover. The style's battery is to small battery [emoji41]
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Thanks
I am waiting for my Moto Play...
If i dont like it in the first month i will just return it! Let's see.

Received my Moto X yesterday. First impression compared to my Moto X 2014, is that Play does not have the character and style of 2014 model.. And with no wave to wake or double tap, I feel that I went years back, in a negative way... At the current levels of mobiles phones, if you dont put the two above at least put a fingerprint sensor.
I will test it for 10 more days, but first feelings are negative. On the positive side is the wonderful camera!
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Really ppl mis that copied button of samsung ?? that was one of the worst thing about samsung mobiles ... a hardware button onscreen .. yukkk

100rabh7791 said:
Really ppl mis that copied button of samsung ?? that was one of the worst thing about samsung mobiles ... a hardware button onscreen .. yukkk
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But I am not saying a hard button, never mentioned that actually. It was either a sensor or fingerprint scanner. But I will give myself some more days [emoji1]
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Double tap to wake is utter trash

As the title may indicate, I'm getting really frustrated with my phone constantly waking in my pocket. I do like using DTTW when it actually works correctly, and carry the display side in against the leg to prevent damage... But i'm getting pretty freaking mad samsung over the pocket dialing, pocket setting changes, pocket flashlight activation, etc... I know this forum used to have all kinds of threads about this, some reporting faulty proximity sensors and such. I'm starting to wonder if mine has a hardware issue with the sensor because it was one of the first wave of phones produced, so the initial hardware revision, and my problem has never been fixed by a system update.
So does anybody have any ideas that could help? I always have accidental touch protection" enabled, and don't use lift to wake or any other gestures. I'm on the newest system version, I've cleared the caches multiple times... I'm just about mad enough to go demand a replacement, no BS, because losing a function like this should not happen on a freaking thousand dollar phone.

BranC85 said:
As the title may indicate, I'm getting really frustrated with my phone constantly waking in my pocket. I do like using DTTW when it actually works correctly, and carry the display side in against the leg to prevent damage... But i'm getting pretty freaking mad samsung over the pocket dialing, pocket setting changes, pocket flashlight activation, etc... I know this forum used to have all kinds of threads about this, some reporting faulty proximity sensors and such. I'm starting to wonder if mine has a hardware issue with the sensor because it was one of the first wave of phones produced, so the initial hardware revision, and my problem has never been fixed by a system update.
So does anybody have any ideas that could help? I always have accidental touch protection" enabled, and don't use lift to wake or any other gestures. I'm on the newest system version, I've cleared the caches multiple times... I'm just about mad enough to go demand a replacement, no BS, because losing a function like this should not happen on a freaking thousand dollar phone.
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The gen 1 proximity sensor used on our devices is trash.
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Limeybastard said:
The gen 1 proximity sensor used on our devices is trash.
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Do you have any idea what revision it is on now? I can't find anything by googling it, I just know my about phone section shows a hardware revision of 1.0.

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Do you have any idea what revision it is on now? I can't find anything by googling it, I just know my about phone section shows a hardware revision of 1.0.
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I don't sorry, but perhaps they'll fix it for the N10 or S11. Joy's of first generation beta hardware.
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Glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Butt dialing, butt texting, butt email sending....this is the worst issue with this phone by far.

BranC85 said:
As the title may indicate, I'm getting really frustrated with my phone constantly waking in my pocket. I do like using DTTW when it actually works correctly, and carry the display side in against the leg to prevent damage... But i'm getting pretty freaking mad samsung over the pocket dialing, pocket setting changes, pocket flashlight activation, etc... I know this forum used to have all kinds of threads about this, some reporting faulty proximity sensors and such. I'm starting to wonder if mine has a hardware issue with the sensor because it was one of the first wave of phones produced, so the initial hardware revision, and my problem has never been fixed by a system update.
So does anybody have any ideas that could help? I always have accidental touch protection" enabled, and don't use lift to wake or any other gestures. I'm on the newest system version, I've cleared the caches multiple times... I'm just about mad enough to go demand a replacement, no BS, because losing a function like this should not happen on a freaking thousand dollar phone.
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Honestly, your issue, and the fact they got rid of the led notification light, are my only 2 issues with this phone.
I was having all the same problems as you are to an extent, until I just gave up cut off DTTW altogether. Now I just use tap to wake AOD and I'm actually just as pleased. But yeah, the proximity sensor is busted with this phone for sure.

mistermidas said:
Honestly, your issue, and the fact they got rid of the led notification light, are my only 2 issues with this phone.
I was having all the same problems as you are to an extent, until I just gave up cut off DTTW altogether. Now I just use tap to wake AOD and I'm actually just as pleased. But yeah, the proximity sensor is busted with this phone for sure.
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I probably would do the same if I didn't have the plus model and also wouldn't be so bothered by this... But the position of our power button is just terrible for one handed use, especially if you use your left. That's why I'm in the habit of DTTW on then using the one handed operation + app to turn off. It's a decent bandaid for the otherwise out-of-reach button. The other thing is that it really isn't a compromise we should have to make in such an expensive, "luxury-priced" phone... I mean this wake gesture has been around for at least five years and I don't think it's ever been implemented so badly... I mean this was never an issue with my old HTC one or my pixel.

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I probably would do the same if I didn't have the plus model and also wouldn't be so bothered by this... But the position of our power button is just terrible for one handed use, especially if you use your left. That's why I'm in the habit of DTTW on then using the one handed operation + app to turn off. It's a decent bandaid for the otherwise out-of-reach button. The other thing is that it really isn't a compromise we should have to make in such an expensive, "luxury-priced" phone... I mean this wake gesture has been around for at least five years and I don't think it's ever been implemented so badly... I mean this was never an issue with my old HTC one or my pixel.
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And added to the fact is they removed that pressure sensitive or whatever it's called home button and moved the power button to the top - not as easy to use as it used to be with previous Galaxy devices now.
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