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RRO Layers on the Moto G 2015

It would seem that the RRO layers themes do work on the Marshmallow stock ROM. After hearing about Marshmallow supporting it by default, i decided to see if it actually works on the Stock Marshmallow ROM. As far as I can tell, the only thing that doesn't work for me is the soft reboot after selecting the desired layer and applying it. :victory:
Update - If after uninstalling certain layers, the theme doesn't change back to normal, then using a file explorer, go to system/vendor/overlays and delete all the contents in the folder.

Will this work in moto g turbo too running marshmallow?
I read a post in x play page that using two themes same time results in bootloop

Wani Aamir said:
Will this work in moto g turbo too running marshmallow?
I read a post in x play page that using two themes same time results in bootloop
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I do not know.. It should work.. But you might want to make a backup of your rom and data in recovery before applying a layers theme.

Wani Aamir said:
Will this work in moto g turbo too running marshmallow?
I read a post in x play page that using two themes same time results in bootloop
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This has always been an issue with RRO, if you apply some things that overlap what they do. Not exclusive to Moto X or any device, in the right combination it will bootloop, but you should be able to boot into safe mode, or via the TWRP file manager, and remove the offending APK's from /system/vendor/overlay, and reboot and the phone will be happy again.
Of course you can always backup and restore a nandroid, but layers was designed so this shouldn't ever be necessary.

Make a tutorial mate.
damianx5 said:
It would seem that the RRO layers themes do work on the Marshmallow stock ROM. After hearing about Marshmallow supporting it by default, i decided to see if it actually works on the Stock Marshmallow ROM. As far as I can tell, the only thing that doesn't work for me is the soft reboot after selecting the desired layer and applying it. :victory:
Update - If after uninstalling certain layers, the theme doesn't change back to normal, then using a file explorer, go to system/vendor/overlays and delete all the contents in the folder.
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Make a tutorial mate

prasi.ram10 said:
Make a tutorial mate
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Lol... Tutorial? All you need is root and Layers Manager app, it doesn't get much simpler.
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Hahaha
acejavelin said:
Lol... Tutorial? All you need is root and Layers Manager app, it doesn't get much simpler.
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I was dumb enough to ask. ?

prasi.ram10 said:
I was dumb enough to ask.
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Yes and no... if you know nothing about layers my answer was a bit sarcastic, but the tutorial would be that... root and use Layers Manager app from the Play Store.
If you have more questions on Layers see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/official-layers-bitsyko-apps-rro-t3012172

Thanks
Uh
acejavelin said:
Yes and no... if you know nothing about layers my answer was a bit sarcastic, but the tutorial would be that... root and use Layers Manager app from the Play Store.
If you have more questions on Layers see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/official-layers-bitsyko-apps-rro-t3012172
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I'm not new to the rooting community. I'm only new to RRO. I've tried it on my old phone and i ended up crashing everything on my phone.. (Not moto) it was an asus zenfone. Since then i haven't tried layers. Given the fact that mm is supporting rro layers natively has piqued my interest for it, so was inquisitive abt it. Thanks mate.

acejavelin said:
Yes and no... if you know nothing about layers my answer was a bit sarcastic, but the tutorial would be that... root and use Layers Manager app from the Play Store.
If you have more questions on Layers see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/official-layers-bitsyko-apps-rro-t3012172
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One question. Is it necessary to set up busybox on rails for the layers manager to work?

is RRO working fine??

Jerryxl said:
is RRO working fine??
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Yeah no problem. It's working fine.

Rro
Working fine.
Inversion UI

prasi.ram10 said:
Working fine.
Inversion UI
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hi,
i seem to have some problems applying the layers. after reboot nothing changes. I can't see any error message in the manager app. this is my first time with RRO, can someone help me?
thanks in advance.

itfranky1 said:
hi,
i seem to have some problems applying the layers. after reboot nothing changes. I can't see any error message in the manager app. this is my first time with RRO, can someone help me?
thanks in advance.
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Check BusyBox installed correctly or not....
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Busybox on rails
itfranky1 said:
hi,
i seem to have some problems applying the layers. after reboot nothing changes. I can't see any error message in the manager app. this is my first time with RRO, can someone help me?
thanks in advance.
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Installed busy box on rails?

itfranky1 said:
hi,
i seem to have some problems applying the layers. after reboot nothing changes. I can't see any error message in the manager app. this is my first time with RRO, can someone help me?
thanks in advance.
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you need to install busy box binaries in "system/xbin" otherwise it won't work

creative21 said:
you need to install busy box binaries in "system/xbin" otherwise it won't work
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I have busybox installed. I think the problem is that can't reboot correctly. When I reboot it seems it always does a softboot. The notifications remain, the recent apps too. Also some tweaks I made on gravity box (MM) that require reboot aren't applied.
By the way, sorry for my English, I'm Italian.

itfranky1 said:
I have busybox installed. I think the problem is that can't reboot correctly. When I reboot it seems it always does a softboot. The notifications remain, the recent apps too. Also some tweaks I made on gravity box (MM) that require reboot aren't applied.
By the way, sorry for my English, I'm Italian.
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i also had the same problem because i installed busybox in "system/bin" but after installing busybox in "system/xbin" layers are working perfectly. I'm also using xposed & gravitybox.

It worked! Thank you! I didn't read correctly the first time (missed that "x"). The Gravity Box problem is still there (as expected) but i don't think this is the right place in the forums to talk about that. I hope to find a solution soon

How do I use Layers Managers

Hi guys
I've decided to give layers a go but for the life of me I can't get it to work. When I apply my overlays I am promoted to reboot. After I reboot nothing... No theme, no overlays nothing.
Does this work on the stock ROM 6.01?
Are there specific themes that will work?
Am I doing this wrong?

Ebrahim Ali said:
Hi guys
I've decided to give layers a go but for the life of me I can't get it to work. When I apply my overlays I am promoted to reboot. After I reboot nothing... No theme, no overlays nothing.
Does this work on the stock ROM 6.01?
Are there specific themes that will work?
Am I doing this wrong?
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Did you follow this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...y-theme-to-marshmallow-layer-manager-t3273548

Ebrahim Ali said:
Hi guys
I've decided to give layers a go but for the life of me I can't get it to work. When I apply my overlays I am promoted to reboot. After I reboot nothing... No theme, no overlays nothing.
Does this work on the stock ROM 6.01?
Are there specific themes that will work?
Am I doing this wrong?
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I am using Milos UI, it looks great. When prompting for reboot inside layers manager app, don't reboot from there, just manually reboot. It worked for me..

I'm using layers on my moto G with Krexus ROM. Can someone confirm that layers is compatible with the stock 6.01 rom.
The link posted above had people talking about custom ROMs so I'm still in doubt

Ebrahim Ali said:
I'm using layers on my moto G with Krexus ROM. Can someone confirm that layers is compatible with the stock 6.01 rom.
The link posted above had people talking about custom ROMs so I'm still in doubt
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Yes its compatible but it is missing some commits and due to that some themes likes magpie, coalesce, etc won't be able to change colors.
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Hi guys
Anybody know of any layers themes that work on the stock ROM?

Ebrahim Ali said:
Hi guys
Anybody know of any layers themes that work on the stock ROM?
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Milos do work on stock 6.0.1.

Substratum work on Nougat?

Does Substratum work on the offical version of nougat? I just tried using it for the first time and i cant get the themes to apply. I can get Layers to work tho on nougat but i know its not supported anymore so been trying substratum but cant get it to work.

chris6278 said:
Does Substratum work on the offical version of nougat? I just tried using it for the first time and i cant get the themes to apply. I can get Layers to work tho on nougat but i know its not supported anymore so been trying substratum but cant get it to work.
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Nope needs masquerade

It works on DP5 and It works on latest 7 . But it works as legacy for now. Check the Google plus substratum page to find answers about legacy.
But yes, it works, i use it myself

Tylog said:
It works on DP5 and It works on latest 7 . But it works as legacy for now. Check the Google plus substratum page to find answers about legacy.
But yes, it works, i use it myself
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Im using legacy or at least thats what it says when i open the app

Where do you get the app..

jussaren said:
Where do you get the app..
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Play store...

chris6278 said:
Does Substratum work on the offical version of nougat? I just tried using it for the first time and i cant get the themes to apply. I can get Layers to work tho on nougat but i know its not supported anymore so been trying substratum but cant get it to work.
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So Layers is actually working on official Nougat? I haven't tried it out yet but maybe I will now.

Works fine.

Working fine here

jaythenut said:
Working fine here
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Well i dont know what the hell im doin wrong if someone wouldnt mind giving me instructions on how they are applying themes id really appreciate it.

chris6278 said:
Well i dont know what the hell im doin wrong if someone wouldnt mind giving me instructions on how they are applying themes id really appreciate it.
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Just get Substratum from play store get a theme I use this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.annihilation.domination pick all the stuff you want themed and apply and should reboot and your done

I'm having the same issue...What kernel are you guys using? Is permissive required?

You need to delete vendor/overlay if you previously tried installing Layers. This is what fixed it for me.

saccentekennedy said:
You need to delete vendor/overlay if you previously tried installing Layers. This is what fixed it for me.
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That did the trick! Thank you!

saccentekennedy said:
You need to delete vendor/overlay if you previously tried installing Layers. This is what fixed it for me.
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Thank you! That fixed it

Same here I did everything I could but can't be able to apply a theme I divided to not try it again
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Tylog said:
It works on DP5 and It works on latest 7 . But it works as legacy for now. Check the Google plus substratum page to find answers about legacy.
But yes, it works, i use it myself
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Hey man, I saw you had Coalesce and Figlio. I was actually trying to decide which one of those to buy and try for Nougat. If you don't mind, which one do you prefer? Or think works better with N?

Guys N just dropped some most Substratum themes are not working perfectly on N. They can be used but everything won't work perfectly. Also since we are on stock rom we are using Substratum Legacy you need a custom ROM with the oms commits in order to get Masquerade and since N just dropped there aren't any at the moment
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thehotboy said:
Guys N just dropped some most Substratum themes are not working perfectly on N. They can be used but everything won't work perfectly. Also since we are on stock rom we are using Substratum Legacy you need a custom ROM with the oms commits in order to get Masquerade and since N just dropped there aren't any at the moment
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Came here to say this. Non of the themes are really compatible with N yet. I tried about a dozen different ones. Ran into issues with apps force closing after applying themes. I had a few crash Documents, a few that would crash settings when you go to change certain settings. Give it a little bit for the themes to update. Might have to wait for the factory images to go live for the 6P. All in all, substratum does work in legacy mode so you need to reboot after changes are applied. Just note that you may run into errors and FC's.

Deity theme works in legacy mode with no issues, using theme ready gapps though

Substratum swift dark KILL my Nexus 6P

i download and install Substratum theme engine and Substratum swift dark and after restart, my nexus 6p hang at google logo, i try to reinstall firmware and restore through nexus root toolkit but its still bootloop, i can access teamwin recovery but cant do anything to help me boot normal, please help me, thank everybody

did you read this post regarding how to install that theme? http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ock-v2-5-1-t3506576/post69969498#post69969498

glserr said:
did you read this post regarding how to install that theme? http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ock-v2-5-1-t3506576/post69969498#post69969498
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Yes... However, Google merged a commit which broke RRO in source with 7.1.1. It's currently broken for any 7.1.1 ROM. Don't use it to theme Android System or SystemUI. Anything framework related will cause a boot loop. IIRC, someone involved with substratum development commented on the change and a Google engineer replied back saying it was already fixed internally and they would push an update soon. Might come with a quick 7.1.2 follow up, maybe the January security update, or maybe later. We'll just have to wait and see.
That's legacy though, ROMs with OMS should be okay. Just know how to recover if you boot loop.
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oh my god, so im in a big problem now, so the only way is have to wait until they release the new update? noooo i only have one phone for my work, just missed 5 calls at work today (((((((

Just reinstall the ROM, what ROM are you using? the latest Resurrection ROM works.

glserr said:
Just reinstall the ROM, what ROM are you using? the latest Resurrection ROM works.
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i tried to install the stock 7.1.1 but still hanging at google text, now im trying to install the stock 6.0
downloading through nexus root toolkit about 80%....

Have you tried flashing the substratum rescue zip? Its located in your substratum folder.

glserr said:
Just reinstall the ROM, what ROM are you using? the latest Resurrection ROM works.
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i try to install 6.0 nothing happen, still stuck at google logo
im trying to install resuruction rom trhough nexus root toolkit but its still stuck at google logo too
guess im done my god

Try with the latest factory image from here: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/angler-nmf26f-factory-ef607244.zip using the flash-all script, following the instructions from here: https://developers.google.com/android/images
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Also you can try this if you can use twrp:
- Mount system partition
- Go to: advanced, file manager
- System/overlay, select it with the right bottom icon, delete and swipe to confirm
- Reboot
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Don't blame the theme, it didn't do anything on its own. Substratum gives a very clear warning about bootloops with stock 7.1.1 that you willingly chose to disregard.

Char_G said:
Don't blame the theme, it didn't do anything on its own. Substratum gives a very clear warning about bootloops with stock 7.1.1 that you willingly chose to disregard.
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Swift Dark is 7.1.1 compatible. I am using it on stock Nexus 6P with no problems. She probably didn't choose the correct Android build from the drop down menu when installing the theme.

jhs39 said:
Swift Dark is 7.1.1 compatible. I am using it on stock Nexus 6P with no problems. She probably didn't choose the correct Android build from the drop down menu when installing the theme.
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That may be but Substratum doesn't officially support stock 7.1.1 at this time, and blaming a theme for 'killing my 6p' isn't cool.

Char_G said:
That may be but Substratum doesn't officially support stock 7.1.1 at this time, and blaming a theme for 'killing my 6p' isn't cool.
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Substratum does warn of potential bootloop problems but Swift Dark theme has a drop down menu to choose the correct Android version before installing. The dev of that theme does say you can disregard the Substratum warnings, which obviously wasn't wise in this case. But that theme won't screw up a 7.1.1 stock Nexus phone if it is installed correctly.
People also ignore the instructions that Substratum doesn't play well with CM based roms and complain when it screws up their phones. Most of the bad reviews in the Play Store are from people who didn't read the instructions first.

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Substratum does warn of potential bootloop problems but Swift Dark theme has a drop down menu to choose the correct Android version before installing. The dev of that theme does say you can disregard the Substratum warnings, which obviously wasn't wise in this case. But that theme won't screw up a 7.1.1 stock Nexus phone if it is installed correctly.
People also ignore the instructions that Substratum doesn't play well with CM based roms and complain when it screws up their phones. Most of the bad reviews in the Play Store are from people who didn't read the instructions first.
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Very true ?

I'm new to OP. Any guidance on Substratum?

I've just come from Dirty Unicorns and Pure Nexus on a 6P, and I've loved substratum for theming my phone. But... OOS would be legacy, I understand. Has anyone tried Subs on OP5, any recommendations? I've also seen a Magisk module for making legacy systemless. Anyone tried it? I don't feel like boot looping my new phone!

Also if I'm just rooted, can I install themes like swift black?

Don't use Substratum on OOS, rooted or not, I tried it and ended up having to restore the backup I'd made after it caused all sorts of complications, my advice? Wait for the custom roms to start appearing.

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Don't use Substratum on OOS, rooted or not, I tried it and ended up having to restore the backup I'd made after it caused all sorts of complications, my advice? Wait for the custom roms to start appearing.
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Thank you for saving me all sorts of trouble.

I tried "Navigate" to configure the navbar. Works without issues. But i wouldn't apply system wide themes. Like @djsubterrain said.

With root you can apply themes system wide that support OOS (I think only swift dark and black right now)
I did and it's working fine, full black apps and system.
If you're paranoid then you can just theme apps and use built in themer to make system black or white.

Does anyone tried ozone substratum?

im rooted and with sustratum working fine, im using swift black and inversion themes.

Interceptor777 said:
With root you can apply themes system wide that support OOS (I think only swift dark and black right now)
I did and it's working fine, full black apps and system.
If you're paranoid then you can just theme apps and use built in themer to make system black or white.
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im rooted and with sustratum working fine, im using swift black and inversion themes.
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Thanks guys!

hounter17 said:
im rooted and with sustratum working fine, im using swift black and inversion themes.
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Yeah... I was always able to theme via substratum on all of my rooted devices, including oneplus 3 on stock.
The thing is, you generally, (lie 99% of the time) should not theme system ui or android system as that almost always results in a bootloop.
This is with the exclusion of themes specifically designed for oxygen os like k clock and swift dark
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So I just need to be on stock rooted OP 5 with Subtranium installed to use Swift Dark on system ui?

pharpe said:
So I just need to be on stock rooted OP 5 with Subtranium installed to use Swift Dark on system ui?
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Yes, that will do, I'm running that too. There is an option to enable OxygenOS 4 compatibility right under the logo. That will make sure that you have a compatible (a.k.a. none) SystemUI overlay

caki25 said:
Yes, that will do, I'm running that too. There is an option to enable OxygenOS 4 compatibility right under the logo. That will make sure that you have a compatible (a.k.a. none) SystemUI overlay
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Great thanks. My OP 5 is being delivered today so I'm doing some research on I'm going to load on it. I saw that FreedomOS has Substratum Legacy support but I'd like to try the stock rom first.

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Does anyone tried ozone substratum?
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I'm running it right now, but i'm using it just for centered clock and to change the "4G" to "LTE" in the status bar.
No issues on my side so far.
Currently running OOS 4.5.1 with magisk v13 beta (96f8efc)

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Does anyone tried ozone substratum?
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I use it for centered clock, QS Tiles 4 icons and Clear All (tasks) button on the left.
No problem so far.

I'm using Valerie as the main theme, and Big Blu to fill in things that Valerie doesn't do.
Also, Ozone for center clock and QS 5.
Fontio works with a .ttf file (or choose one of the provided fonts) if you use the flashable zip option - in the settings there's a place to create a restore zip, so do that first in case. Both files will be put on your internal memory in a Fontio folder.
edit: I forgot that the power menu doesn't work with this setup, so I made my own with Tasker/GMD.

caki25 said:
Yes, that will do, I'm running that too. There is an option to enable OxygenOS 4 compatibility right under the logo. That will make sure that you have a compatible (a.k.a. none) SystemUI overlay
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I can't even see any difference when you theme the system lol so I don't even think it's necessary

pharpe said:
Great thanks. My OP 5 is being delivered today so I'm doing some research on I'm going to load on it. I saw that FreedomOS has Substratum Legacy support but I'd like to try the stock rom first.
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Stock has the same substratum support as freedom Os... It's the legacy layers theming, so if you root stock, it will work the same way. Just install the substratum app from the store and try out. ?

fully working here, rooted with magisk and substratum is ok with theming everything, but yeah, like above, power menu doesn't work and if pressed it soft reboot phone... resolved installing material power menu

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Don't use Substratum on OOS, rooted or not, I tried it and ended up having to restore the backup I'd made after it caused all sorts of complications, my advice? Wait for the custom roms to start appearing.
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