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[Q] A question for the T-mobile data plan.

I am considering getting a Samsung Vibrant these days. There is one thing that bother me a lot.
I am a student from China. And I am getting a prepaid SIM from T-mobile without any kind of plan right now for the price reason.
I was wondering if I got a unlocked Samsung Vibrant from eBay and use it on the T-mobile network, do I have to pay for the data plan?
The thing is I owned a AT&T Fuze before and everything works fine on the T-mobile network except for the 3G. That's okay for me cuz I don't use 3G anyway. But there is one time that my friend who is on AT&T network borrow my Fuze for couple days, and AT&T just added the data plan for it automatically. My friend try to call the staff in AT&T and they said that since HTC Fuze is a smart phone from AT&T, it require a data plan so he cannot cancel it. And they can tell when he insert the SIM card and AT&T will get the IMEI from him automatically.
I just wondering will the same thing happen in T-mobile? 30$/month is way to much for me.
BTW, there is another question for you guys. There is a lot of unlocked Galaxy S on eBay, which is nice. I was wondering how they get it unlocked? Can I get them unlocked right in the "carrier shop"? Or there is other ways that I can get the unlocked code?
Thx you guys anyway for answering these questions. BIG HAPPY FACE

You might have to spoof the IMEI, you're in the same boat as my friend. He wants to use his old Sidekick plan with the phone but since's it's not a Sidekick he can't use the data at all because they know he's using a smart phone. Discussing IMEI's is not usually allowed on xda because it's illegal in some countries. I think that's your only solution though.
Wait a few months until the phone is more popular and you'll be able to easily find ways to spoof the IMEI. So far I have found none.

you have to have the android web spoofed or not. Without it TMO will lock you out of the market and mms
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as long as you use t mobile prepaid, you won't be charged for a data plan.
Why do you want to buy those expensive vibrants from ebay? I'd rather buy it from tmobile with 2 year contract, then cancel the plan and pay the ETF.
You can try to ask a t mobile online csr for the unlock code. Just tell him you will travel outside of us.
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neasoon said:
as long as you use t mobile prepaid, you won't be charged for a data plan.
Why do you want to buy those expensive vibrants from ebay? I'd rather buy it from tmobile with 2 year contract, then cancel the plan and pay the ETF.
You can try to ask a t mobile online csr for the unlock code. Just tell him you will travel outside of us.
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He said he is a student from china so I assume he does not have a SS# and without one he cannot sign up for a contract.
The best thing you can do OP is buy a Galaxy S i9000 off ebay. Tmobile only has the IMEI for the vibrants. That way you can pop your sim into the international version and they wont know.

Or get a sim card from mysimplemobile.com $60 a month for unlimited everything and it uses tmobile service. That is what I switched to and it works with my vibrant without an unlock.
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PathogenX said:
He said he is a student from china so I assume he does not have a SS# and without one he cannot sign up for a contract.
The best thing you can do OP is buy a Galaxy S i9000 off ebay. Tmobile only has the IMEI for the vibrants. That way you can pop your sim into the international version and they wont know.
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Yup. You are right. I don't have the SSN right now so it's difficult for me to sign a contract.
The international version which is the i9000 is not bad. But I notice the price for the international version are significantly more expensive than the vibrant, for like 100-200$.
Anyway, thx for the suggestions.

j0eyred said:
Or get a sim card from mysimplemobile.com $60 a month for unlimited everything and it uses tmobile service. That is what I switched to and it works with my vibrant without an unlock.
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Thank you for the suggestions. But 60$ still seems to be a lot for me.
So I might try to figure out another way to make it happen. lol

Im using the vibrant on tmo after upgrade. you can go online and remove the service. I paid for one month and canceled. you just change the type of phone to one not requiring android data plan ie a non android phone and it will let you remove it. I'm using it purely on wifi. just remember you will need it unlocked or w/ 3g to activate it initially or after wipe.

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Im using the vibrant on tmo after upgrade. you can go online and remove the service. I paid for one month and canceled. you just change the type of phone to one not requiring android data plan ie a non android phone and it will let you remove it. I'm using it purely on wifi. just remember you will need it unlocked or w/ 3g to activate it initially or after wipe.
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Ahh, Hmmm I paid the full 500 and today is the last day I can return mine. How much was the termination fee out of curiosity?
Another question, I have been using mine prepaid for almost a month now and TMO hasn't given me any trouble with it. (Aside from the reps in the store when I went to buy it).
Do you think I should bother to spoof my IMEI? Is that something that can get a fellow into trouble in this paranoid new world?
From what I've read everywhere else, it seems that TMO needs your business and won't give you any trouble using a prepaid sim in the phone. Whose to say that won't change in the future though.

lianglqufo said:
Thank you for the suggestions. But 60$ still seems to be a lot for me.
So I might try to figure out another way to make it happen. lol
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You can usually get a contract from T-mob with your passport and your F1 student visa (assuming you're on a F1). You'll have to wait for about an hour in order for them to get approval from headquarters, but it works fine. Got my Vibrant that way, and while the charges are high at least you get unlimited data (as in really unlimited), so watching videos, listening to pandora and all that is a non-brainer..

djupp said:
You can usually get a contract from T-mob with your passport and your F1 student visa (assuming you're on a F1). You'll have to wait for about an hour in order for them to get approval from headquarters, but it works fine. Got my Vibrant that way, and while the charges are high at least you get unlimited data (as in really unlimited), so watching videos, listening to pandora and all that is a non-brainer..
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Oh. I do have the F1 VISA with me. But I think I need to pay the deposit for don't have the SS#. At least my friend told me so.

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Ahh, Hmmm I paid the full 500 and today is the last day I can return mine. How much was the termination fee out of curiosity?
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That's the thing I don't understand. I paid $199 for my Vibrant on a 2-year contract. I have a $200 ETF, which means that I can cancel, and get the phone for $400. For a non-contract, I would have paid the full $500.
So what one can do is use the Even More for one month (which is +$10 from the Even More Plus). Then cancel, pay the ETF, and move to the same Even More Plus plan. Which would mean you would get no contract for $400.
Am I missing something?

cparekh said:
So what one can do is use the Even More for one month (which is +$10 from the Even More Plus). Then cancel, pay the ETF, and move to the same Even More Plus plan. Which would mean you would get no contract for $400.
Am I missing something?
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is this really possible? amazon currently has the vibrant for $0.01 with a new contract. so in theory, one could sign a new contract, cancel and pay the ETF of $200, and get the phone for $200.01?? then sign up for an even more plus plan with no contract? (i also thought EM was $20/month more than EM+)
any input would be appreciated. this sounds too good to be true

You can buy a Vibrant and use it on prepaid you are just going to pay $500 for the phone. T-Mobile doesn't care they wont and can't charge you extra.
I would recommend checking out flexpay, you can get a monthly plan and get data if you want it. If not go with prepaid $15 a month gives you unlimited SMS and $0.10 a minute and just use wifi when you need data.
One last thing is do not recommend imei spoofing as its illegal here.
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lolcopter said:
is this really possible? amazon currently has the vibrant for $0.01 with a new contract. so in theory, one could sign a new contract, cancel and pay the ETF of $200, and get the phone for $200.01?? then sign up for an even more plus plan with no contract? (i also thought EM was $20/month more than EM+)
any input would be appreciated. this sounds too good to be true
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If you cancel with amazon within 6 months you pay an added 250$ ETF to them. So it would be 450$ all day.
I got mine from costco for $99 and canceled for 200$ after ETF. So $300 total. You also get a free cheap case car charger and bluetooth from them. Oh and no activation fee.
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sl0play said:
If you cancel with amazon within 6 months you pay an added 250$ ETF to them. So it would be 450$ all day.
I got mine from costco for $99 and canceled for 200$ after ETF. So $300 total. You also get a free cheap case car charger and bluetooth from them. Oh and no activation fee.
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nice. i'll look into something like this. i wonder if best buy / radioshack / car toys also have ETF fees of their own... (no costco membership for me)

I am kinda confused by this.
So I am in a stick situation here.
My parents have a family plan and I bought a Vibrant adding onto their Even More plan, which requires the $5 add a line and also $30 data plan. But I kinda think I don't really need data plan/3G cuz I am mostly home and don't quite use 3G unless I am not home, which isn't too often. $30 is a little money wasting, so I was thinking of just getting my phone without contract by paying $500 and just adding to my parents' Even More plan without data plan to save money.
But since I got my phone from Costco for $200 (when did this $99 deal start? I got mine a week ago...), does that mean I can just cancel and save money instead?
Important question though: Is it really true that there is no Android Market access without Tmo smartphone data plan? Why is this so? If so, is there any way of my getting away with it in my case?
Thanks,

FYI, if you have an F1 visa or any student visa you can do a contact with T-Mobile with no deposit and no ss#. This is something relatively new to t-mo. Just go to any corporate store location and they should be able to set it up for you. It takes about 45 minutes to process. That is the only down side.
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seojuhwan said:
Important question though: Is it really true that there is no Android Market access without Tmo smartphone data plan? Why is this so? If so, is there any way of my getting away with it in my case?
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I don't have a data plan, and I can access the Android Market just fine via WiFi. With Wifi at home and at work and most every place in between, the data plan is really pointless for me

Tmobile wouldn't sell me a Tab

I went down to Tmobile to check out the Galaxy Tab out and possibly pick one up yesterday. I played with it for about 20 min and really liked it. It felt fast and worked well. I did turn flash to on-demand in the browser, and that helped a lot. I tethered it to my EVO wifi and that worked great too.
But when I wanted to buy one with out a contract they said they couldn't do that. The guy was saying that they were in limited supply and could only sell one with the 2 year contract. I called a few other stores and they either didn't get any in or were sold out. Now, it looks like Amazon is sold out too. I guess I will wait for black Friday to see if there are any deals or new tablets announced.

That sucks, my tmobile store is awesome. Its located in Visalia, CA They hooked me up. Have you tried Best Buy?

Sucks and good news at the same time. Sucks you can't buy one, great news that they sold so well that they have to reserve them for contract sales only.
That should loosen up once AT&T launches theirs, as well as the Bell Canada NAM version.

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But when I wanted to buy one with out a contract they said they couldn't do that. The guy was saying that they were in limited supply and could only sell one with the 2 year contract.
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... because selling it with a plan is how the store reps earn commission. I can't imagine that they can legally refuse to sell someone an item when it is in stock... because that is essentially what they are doing.

Can't you just buy it under contract and then cancel right away? Off contract is $599, with contract is $399. They charge $200 early termination fee, so doesn't it just even out?

I looked online today and Best Buy is showing Unavailable for all the stores around here. I also thought the Tmobile one was the only one with the 16GB memory built in. Best Buy shows both with the 16GB built in. One other feature I liked about Tmobile is that they would do a prepaid 3G service. I will mostly use wifi and link to my phone, but I thought it would be good to have an option for 3G when I travel. I'll have to see if Sprint or Verizon can do a prepaid or one month plan.
It is good, that it seems to be selling well. I was also surprised I liked the size so much. I was thinking I would hold out for a 10" tablet but now really like the smaller size. Maybe an 8" would be perfect.

Buying T-Mobile Tab
My goal was to buy one without a contract and monthly charges.
All stores around me had them in stock but one store refused to sell without me committing to a plan even without a contract, another store clerk said that internet Wifi won't work without an activated 3G service and essentially refused to sell. The third store manager sold it without bogus stories, however, he also said that they sell to current T-mobile customers primarily.
Customer service said once that it should not be such conditions to sell the device, however, they also said that store managers can impose such.
The Tab works like a charm with WiFi only but has activated 3G SIM allowing to connect to T-Mobile store for ordering service in case of need.
It is very nice feature because if I need I can order and start using 3G data very quickly without calling rep or going to a store.

chrisreese said:
Can't you just buy it under contract and then cancel right away? Off contract is $599, with contract is $399. They charge $200 early termination fee, so doesn't it just even out?
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Comes out the same..
$399 contract price... Call T-Mobile and cancel, they will bill you a $200 ETF = $599 total

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Comes out the same..
$399 contract price... Call T-Mobile and cancel, they will bill you a $200 ETF = $599 total
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But isnt there activation charge and any other stuff also??

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But isnt there activation charge and any other stuff also??
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Yeah, they will probably charge for the first month too.
I am not in that big of a hurry, so will probably just order from amazon.

One thing to also consider because I'm in the same boat is that with being on contract you have the option of the $6 a month insurance, hard to decide since I have a second line just ready for the tab

I'm pretty sure T-Mobile is waiving the activation fee, they did for me.
Also, the T-Mobile version (and I assume the AT&T) is the only one with 16GB built-in with the addition of an available MicroSD slot which is empty. The Sprint and Verizon versions don't have the built-in memory but include a 16GB MicroSD card. That's why I picked the T-Mobile version, so I could add a 16GB card for a total of 32GB of storage.

I experienced the same thing. I went to T-mobile store yesterday tried to buy one without contract. The rep. told me even though without contract, I still have to buy a data plan. This surprised me because I have bought phone without contract and with full price previously, and this has never been a requirement. I think they do it for the commission for the rep/store; and also they try to push people into a 2 yr contract. I do not think this is legal. I think there will possibly a class action law suit against them for doing this.
Anyway, I checked with Amazon today and guess what? They have just lowered the price from $650 to $600, with roughly $6 for standard shipping and no tax. I think I will buy the tab from them. On T-mobile website today, there is no more option for buying the tab without contract.
But I do not know if I buy it from Amazon, when I activate it, will T-mobile require me to buy a data plan? Anyone know the answer?

^ You can bypass the activation screen by touching the 4 corners of the screen, starting from the top left and going in a clockwise motion.
You can just stick with using wifi if that is what you want to do. And not having to activate it.
Yes, you are right. The store and T-Mobile loses money with every product that they sell. They recoup their costs by signing you up on a contract. That is their main way of earning money.

ConceptVBS said:
^ You can bypass the activation screen by touching the 4 corners of the screen, starting from the top left and going in a clockwise motion.
You can just stick with using wifi if that is what you want to do. And not having to activate it.
Yes, you are right. The store and T-Mobile loses money with every product that they sell. They recoup their costs by signing you up on a contract. That is their main way of earning money.
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Thanks ConceptVBS.

I also got the run-around by t-mobile stores until I said that I want it activated on prepaid. That was then apparently just as good as the month-to-month "non"contract. I don't know if its official policy or just a misinformed CSR, but worth a try. The CSR did not think of the prepaid option by herself.
Of course 30$ for 300mb/month is outrageously expensive by European standards, but since I'm in Wifi range most of the time its working out fine so far.
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The store and T-Mobile loses money with every product that they sell. They recoup their costs by signing you up on a contract.
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I find it hard to believe that they lose money by selling it at 599.- Less profit than when selling it with a contract, sure, but a loss they won't make.

chrisreese said:
Can't you just buy it under contract and then cancel right away? Off contract is $599, with contract is $399. They charge $200 early termination fee, so doesn't it just even out?
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yep cause that's what im doing. my first bill comes in January that's when ill cancel. lol only problem after is no internet from my old sim cause they blocked me.

Its got nothing to do with T-Mobile its the sales reps
They don't make as much commission on phones as they do when they sell u a line

Croak said:
Bell Canada NAM version.
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What does a NAM version mean?

xoltrix2000 said:
What does a NAM version mean?
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I could tell you stories about the 'NAM, son. Don't get me started.
...What?... What's that?... North American version?... oh, then, nevermind.

So I'm guessing no installment plan?

I assume since this is going to be sold through Best Buy, similar to that of the nexus being sold through Google, that we can't get this on an installment plan is that correct?
Or is there a way to put this phone on our bill? I don't mind paying for the phone but it helps to be able to spread the payments out. Maybe I'll see if Best Buy will approve me for finance through them.

Cheeze[iT] said:
I assume since this is going to be sold through Best Buy, similar to that of the nexus being sold through Google, that we can't get this on an installment plan is that correct?
Or is there a way to put this phone on our bill? I don't mind paying for the phone but it helps to be able to spread the payments out. Maybe I'll see if Best Buy will approve me for finance through them.
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if the BestBuy sells T-Mo i believe they will do the installments

slowz3r said:
if the BestBuy sells T-Mo i believe they will do the installments
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I thought only t-mobile retail and do installments, thats why radio shack, walmart, etc couldn't

They have a deal that if you make a purchase over $299 there is no interest for 12 months. Thats not bad at all. You have 12 months to pay off $529 if you buy Nexus S at full price.

i'm not even sure if bestbuy even officially sells tmobile phones. Every one I go to sells only att, verizon, and sprint. They don't even offer tmo phones through the official website afaik. I only see tmo prepaid -_-

Cheeze[iT] said:
I assume since this is going to be sold through Best Buy, similar to that of the nexus being sold through Google, that we can't get this on an installment plan is that correct?
Or is there a way to put this phone on our bill? I don't mind paying for the phone but it helps to be able to spread the payments out. Maybe I'll see if Best Buy will approve me for finance through them.
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This is the exact method i'm trying to get the nexus S. It's the ONLY method i'm able to get it right now because I don't have $566 cash. If we can't get it this way, i'm just gonna have to wait a cpl months so I can buy a used one for a cheaper price.

jroid said:
This is the exact method i'm trying to get the nexus S. It's the ONLY method i'm able to get it right now because I don't have $566 cash. If we can't get it this way, i'm just gonna have to wait a cpl months so I can buy a used one for a cheaper price.
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Same here, but I will just finance through Best buy with their card. 12 months with no interest will be enough for me.

[QUOTE='Cheeze[iT]]Same here, but I will just finance through Best buy with their card. 12 months with no interest will be enough for me.[/QUOTE]
Just got it confirmed through Nexus S support that bb's that sell T-Mobile should be able to sell a nexus S with an em+ plan. Problem is actually finding a store that does. Luckily, I've found one in my area
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They have a deal that if you make a purchase over $299 there is no interest for 12 months. Thats not bad at all. You have 12 months to pay off $529 if you buy Nexus S at full price.
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You are correct.
Check out Best Buy's Nexus S FAQ for answers to questions like this: http://mobileaccessories.bestbuy.com/samsung-nexus-s-accessories.htm

Selling a Nexus S with an even more + plan does not mean the you will be able to use the T-Mobile Equipment Installment Plan, they are 2 different things.
To the best of my knowledge no 3rd party retailers can access EIP so you would have to do any financing through Best Buy.

best buy is NOT able to do the equipment installment plan. even in Best Buy locations that sell T-Mobile.
youre not purchasing the device from T-mobile when you buy from Best Buy, so why would you slowly be able to pay it off to T-mobile?

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best buy is NOT able to do the equipment installment plan. even in Best Buy locations that sell T-Mobile.
youre not purchasing the device from T-mobile when you buy from Best Buy, so why would you slowly be able to pay it off to T-mobile?
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There goes my only hope on purchasing the nexus S. I'm glad you answered this though i've been trying to get this figured out before I sell my vibrant. I was told differently from the nexus S support line. I will just hold off selling my phone and go to the location on the 16th to confirm yes/no to make my decision.

In the same boat.. currently trying to sell all kinds of crap on craigslist to come up with the $575 for the phone. I've had about all I can take from this slow ass G1.

First time upgrade on Sprint. How does it work?

I have the original Evo4G which I got almost 2 years ago. I haven't upgraded while on Sprint so I am wondering how it works. Last time I upgraded I had Verizon so it was a new every 2 type deal where I was getting a new phone for free. I see sprint gives a $150 credit. Does that mean I have to pay $400 for the new evo lte? Can someone shed some light on this before I go to the Sprint Store as I want to get the best deal I can without them bending me over. Thanks!

Ultimately you get more than 150 off. Basically the Evo lte will cost you 199 at sprint, as will any of their top tier phones. 199 is kind of sprints Max price on upgrade or new phone.
VZW gave em free, huh? Nice.
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the phone will be 199. plus some BS fees. the total comes to about 225 bucks.

thanks guys, been wondering this myself as well

If your off contract eBay it up man, spend the extra as sprint makes you go a full two years without upgrade. plus you can get an international version which I'm pretty sure comes unlocked from HTC. That's how I got my og and it was unlocked in a sealed factory box.
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I have the original Evo4G which I got almost 2 years ago. I haven't upgraded while on Sprint so I am wondering how it works. Last time I upgraded I had Verizon so it was a new every 2 type deal where I was getting a new phone for free. I see sprint gives a $150 credit. Does that mean I have to pay $400 for the new evo lte? Can someone shed some light on this before I go to the Sprint Store as I want to get the best deal I can without them bending me over. Thanks!
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Yeah they're $150 discount is bs, it's always more than thst. Just look at the price they offer it for with contract
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Warrior 3000 said:
the phone will be 199. plus some BS fees. the total comes to about 225 bucks.
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Plus a $30 activation fee.

Or try wirefly for 120 and then if u got AAA call them to get activation waived, if u really want to make the most of ur ur upgrade experience, call Sprint and ask if you have a Contract renewal bonus on ur account, if u do you can extend ur contract and get 50+ bucks, then go and buy a phone and sign a 2 yr contract, then 20 months latter do it again
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If your off contract eBay it up man, spend the extra as sprint makes you go a full two years without upgrade. plus you can get an international version which I'm pretty sure comes unlocked from HTC. That's how I got my og and it was unlocked in a sealed factory box.
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International version won't work on sprint, and cdma devices can't be unlocked, that only works on GSM carriers I.e. T-Mobile and at&t just so you know before you go buying an unlocked international version of a device and then find out after you have it that it's not gonna work on your carrier in any way, shape or form
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blaz1nr said:
If your off contract eBay it up man, spend the extra as sprint makes you go a full two years without upgrade. plus you can get an international version which I'm pretty sure comes unlocked from HTC. That's how I got my og and it was unlocked in a sealed factory box.
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Besides not being tied to a contract, what are some of the benefits to buying unlocked phone - freedom to choose from multiple carriers? I live in ATL, and Sprint is about to release their LTE here, so my thought was to wait for the G S III when it's released.

Activation fees are $36. Check out their discount program, credit unions waive it.
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About the unlocked question, sprint has to load every esn into a database unlocked Intl or GSM only phones are not and therefore cannot be activated. If you buy a sprint phone on ebay make sure the esn is clear before buying. Sprint will be able to check the status for you.
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Having never gotten a "brand new" phone before, I am curious about the timeline... I'm shocked we still don't know when the phone will be released - how hard is it to figure out when you want to release a phone?
So, with my impatience leading the charge here, how long was it between the EVO 4G pre-order and the actual release date? How about with the EVO 3D? Thanks everyone! I wish they would tell you upon pre-ordering.

Sprints upgrade discount is a complete lie!!!! Sprint customers who's contract just ran out will pay the same price as anyone just walking in and buying the phone. Now Verizon actually gives their customers, who's contract just ran out, and a discount. Verizon discount comes off the 2year contract price, and so you pay less than others starting a new contract. Sprint just makes the normal 2year contract discount $150 less than it really is, but then adds in your $150 upgrade discount; so the 2year contract price comes out to be the same. How ridiculous!!
When I left Verizon for Sprint 2 years ago I was excited that their 2year discount was more than Verizon's.. Just recently found out that I was wrong though, and you get NO 2year discount from Sprint in actuality.... If Sprint didn't have unlimited data, cheaper monthly plans, and carry better phones, then I might go back to Verizon. And sadly, as of lately Sprint is the best at getting in phones, AT&T seems to be getting the best devices for the last 6 months or so... AT&T coverage is a joke in my area, and I'd probably pay twice as much as I do with Sprint every month, or they would be my current choice of carrier.....

Question for anyone on Verizon

Has anyone been able to successfully add on any international plan to your existing plans with Verizon? Rep I was chatting with let me know my 6P was not a Verizon supported phone for international plans and that I would have to upgrade in order to take advantage of that.

I've not tried, mostly because it is insanely expensive. I'm going to Europe in June and I plan to use Google fi for that trip. Another option is to buy a local Sim card.
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GatorsUF said:
I've not tried, mostly because it is insanely expensive. I'm going to Europe in June and I plan to use Google fi for that trip. Another option is to buy a local Sim card.
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Yeah I could do that. Only reason I wanted to go this route is cause in my head it was the easiest and I wanted to keep it all on one bill. Work is giving me $150 a month to pay for a company phone or add the international option to my existing plan, figured I would just add the $25 option to my plan and let those $150 pay for my entire phone bill.

I forget what the costs are, but I think the $25 only pays for them to turn on the International Plan. Then each MB and minute costs an additional charge, depending on where you are calling and how much data you use (not on wifi) it can add up very quick.

I'm going to India in 2 weeks and also plan to buy a local sim, so much cheaper than Verizon international plans.