I currently have a nook color and looking to get a larger tablet. I was first looking at the acer a500 but didn't like that wouldn't charge over usb (same with their a200 model, and the a200 loses hdmi I believe).
The Lenova thinkpad is currently selling for 349.99, (canadian prices) but acer just came out with their a510. The 510 has tegra 3 processor but otherwise the specs seem pretty similar and it's for 100 dollars more. And the Lenova has an ips display so I'm sure the screen is better.
A couple of things I want is charge over usb (even though it's slow, you're not completely stuck without an adapter) and I want usb hosting.
I saw one review on this and she mentioned that plugging in a harddrive didn't mount.
Can anyone expand on how good the usb host is? Drives/mice/keyboards? Mulitple devices via usb hub? I was even thinking on having it wired to my network (via usb over ethernet) and I saw a review that actually mentioned usb over ethernet driver is included with the a510.
From going over these forums I gather the Lenova honeycomb is a little buggy but plain stock ics is on the way in june. I didn't like reading a thread about fixing the power button, that definitely gives me pause.
I'd like to save where I can and I don't see a better tablet for 349 (remember in canada) offering what I want. So trying to decide if the extra 100 is worth it and just get the new (and already has ics) acer 510.
I really enjoy the Lenovo tablet however if flashing roms or doing a lot of customizing is your thing I would look at something different. I'm very happy with the hardware itself but dev support for this device is just not there. Now yes I know we have an ics port but its really the only rom avalible and there are quite a few bugs with GB stock rom. Lets just hope ics works better than GB does.
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Maybe Not
From your use description, the ThinkPad Tablet may not be the best choice. The number one selling point for this tablet is the pen and active digitizer. I came here from an iPad2 because it could NOT support hand-written note-taking well enough for me to use in university classes. If acurate pen input is not high on your list then another tablet might be a better choice. Charging over USB may not work for you, my macBook Air running Linux has a software hack to provide extra current, the Thinkpad indicates that it is charging but I have not actually tested it for charge time or anything like that. The cheepo aftermarket charger I use for my Samsung Galaxy Note will NOT charge the ThinkPad.
The Accer is likely thinner and lighter which you could translate as more portable or less durable depending on your point of view.
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The Lenovo thinkpad tablet is mostly aimed at people who wants to "work" with their tablet. Being productive with note taking and so forth.
If you just looking for a tablet, get what ever you want. Could be the Lenovo thinkpad or that Tegra 3 tablet.
It's a great choice in many ways, unless you need GPS or a pen that works predictably. Good screen, decent battery life, good form factor, comfortable to hold.
Unfortunately for me, the pen and GPS are pretty much essential for utility. And they just don't work on this device.
I got the K1 in December because it was $250 for a 32gb tegra2 tablet with 10" 1200x800 screen. At this point, however, there's a multitude of tegra3 tablets being released so I'd either wait for those to drop in price or I'd pick up a current tegra2 if it's sub-$200. There was a dell streak 7" for $170 a few days ago. Granted that tablet has a low resolution screen and less than spectacular battery life but even high end tablets like the transformer and xoom have been in the $250 range recently.
If I needed pen input I'd only go for the thinkpad if it was significantly less than the Note. Samsung has hinted that their next Galaxy Tab may have pen input which may be worth waiting for.
Definitely Not!
SImply put I would not recommend Lenovo TPT at the moment. Feedback from the Lenovo developers conference and a recent WSJ article suggest that Lenovo will have a new "strategy"
which will produce a cheap android tablet and make their higher end offerings Win 8 tablets.
I am looking for my first tablet and was seriously considering a TPT but decided to wait for the TPT2 because of the problems plaguing the TPT. Now it looks like Lenovo will probably not produce a TPT2 so ot looks like I will wait for a Galaxy Note 10.1 ( I seriously want a pen ). Hopefully while I wait Lenovo's strategy will become clearer and hopefully it will include high end android tablets.
Not surprisingly considering how little attention Lenovo pays to resolving the TPT issues - little and none. :-/
The n-trig stylus is the biggest draw card, otherwise hard to recommend it.
Ditto. And once ICS ruins pressure sensitivity it's a no go.
Yes, Lenovos slow (and now poor quality) work on the ICS updates so far, their use of only patched updates, etc now make it impossible to recommmend it to either tech or non-tech users alike, where initially I was quite happy with it.
It's a new release for Lenovo, so their Android venture doesn't have all of the bugs worked out yet (including what the target market really wants, and all of that "fringy" stuff). I would say no, not now. I don't know what the competition offers, though, and I don't know what their bugs are.
Once everyone gets the ICS update, the camera focuses properly, the power button, usb port, and GPS hardware issues are resolved with newer releases of this tablet, then yes. The caveat is that you really need to know, then, when the tablet was manufactured to make sure you're not getting a flaky, early release that hasn't been fixed.
I'd definitely go for whatever Lenovo releases next.
That said, I can't imagine living without my stylus. I'll have to live without it, though, for what they said would be a week. I'm sending mine in for repair. They seem hellbent on keeping me happy.... We'll see.
Hm. Bleeding edge, I guess.
The short answer to your question is no. Search this forum for the immense dissatisfaction felt by users of this tab. When a company refuses to provide system images of their tablets needed because it would prevent them from selling custom Roms, that says it all about how selfish they are and that their priority is money not customer satisfaction. Read all about the gps issues, power button issues, broken USB ports, pen "wonk", botched updates, etc and the truth, (even to those singing lenovo's praises) is that being the first tablet of its type is no excuse because the tpt is filled with both hardware and software bugs. The galaxy note is the first phone of its kind with a pen yet its not like this bug-ridden POS. The tpt is a failure and if not for the pen that I manage to use when it works, I would have ditched the thing.
Its not even the negative actions of lenovo that bother me but the behavior behind it. For a so called business tablet, they provide zero support. Just imagine a tablet used for business being stuck in some bootloop and yet no custom image is provided for recovery unless you pay Lenovo $3000. Windows PCs come with recovery discs maybe Lenovo should learn from that. I WILL NOT be buying any Lenovo products because of these dodgy behaviors. And oh, I forgot to mention that they have a Backdoor into your tablet and they can patch whatever they want without your permission. They can probably steal your business info if they wanted.
When the Samsung tab with pen comes out, I will be moving swiftly as I have a long experience with Samsung devices such as my current gs2. They have never failed me.
Hey, but in the end, make your own choice. Just weighing in my 2cents.
TPT
No.. don't get one.... microUSB port for charging (which is painfully slow at the best of times) and ON/OFF switch fail... warranty support very variable. Lenovo forum on this topic is now about 20 pages long!! So.. no charging, not being able to switch on equals A LEMON!!
I was too interested in this tablet, but reading the previous comments I think I'd better wait, or ask for some more advice... also because I'm buying my first tablet and have no experience at all...
I just want an android tablet with its input stylus pen (and possibly a slot to keep the pen with the tablet).
I don't care much about its handwriting recognition software. I'm just interested in keeping ink "grahpics" notes (mainly math).
Display size should be around 10'' (say more than 9'')
Is there anything like that already available and/or advisable?
I saw reference to a "Samsung tab with pen" coming out... when will it be? What model?
Maybe I could also do with an ordinary tablet and with a separate (high quality) input pen?
Thanks for your help
toenail_flicker said:
Ditto. And once ICS ruins pressure sensitivity it's a no go.
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My n-trig on my TPT has been nothing short of amazing. It's the reason to get one of these. It's in the shop for repair (gps, power button, home key was giggly), so I haven't tried ICS on it yet, but pressure sensitivity is very much intact on my Galaxy Note on ICS.
I definitely prefer the n-trig over the s-pen (wacom), except for the clickiness.
As far as Lenovo goes, they seemed hellbent on making me happy when I called to send in the TPT, but I sent it in on the 1st, it's the 9th, and it's still sitting at the shop waiting for parts. It's listed as waiting for parts on both the 5th and the 7th, which means they didn't assess the thing upon arrival completely so they could order all the parts right way. That's just inept. It feels to me like dealing with a drinking alcoholic. If you get one, make it one that's proven working, and don't rely on support.
I have yet to plug anything in the TPT's usb port and not have it work. I might reccommend a GPS mouse....
The TPT is still the only game in town if you need a 10-inch tablet with an active pen (i.e., one that operates independently of one's own hand). I need a 10-inch tablet with an active pen, so I'd buy one again, today ... but probably not after the Galaxy 10 Note comes out (but right now that's vaporware).
I need to encrypt my Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet because I'm also using it for my job. But it seems, that the Performance of the ThinkPad Tablet is very weak. Lenovo offers the ThinkPad as an business Tablet. We all know, that this tablet is all but not a business ready tablet, but there should be a method to encrypt your tablet.
So, my question is how to encrypt my device without loosing a lot of performance and which ROM image is the best one to us the device in a secure way.
The Stock ICS Image is much faster than the old Android 3 one, but a lot of apps are very slow. I also tried the CM10-ROM in the developers section but, it seems it doesn't support any encryption. There is a button in the control panel, but it doesn't do anything. It would be nice if there would be another ROM out there which also supports encryption AND is fast enough for working.
Rei Hatsune said:
I need to encrypt my Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet because I'm also using it for my job. But it seems, that the Performance of the ThinkPad Tablet is very weak. Lenovo offers the ThinkPad as an business Tablet. We all know, that this tablet is all but not a business ready tablet, but there should be a method to encrypt your tablet.
So, my question is how to encrypt my device without loosing a lot of performance and which ROM image is the best one to us the device in a secure way.
The Stock ICS Image is much faster than the old Android 3 one, but a lot of apps are very slow. I also tried the CM10-ROM in the developers section but, it seems it doesn't support any encryption. There is a button in the control panel, but it doesn't do anything. It would be nice if there would be another ROM out there which also supports encryption AND is fast enough for working.
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You cant expect and wonders here. Real Time decryption/encryption eats CPU like hell. You can only hope for a new Overclocking Kernel to get past this problem.
It does seem an unusual thing to want with a tablet, but as I just can't get on with touch screen devices, a touchpad is essential for me. I looked around for information about this possible problem, but can't find any so I thought I may as well create a thread.
This is the keyboard/touchpad I have: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0176GEXC6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also have this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B017Z6Q596/ref=twister_B017Z5RF64?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I've previously had loads of different tablets all work very responsively with the touchpad. Very quick to respond. No lag or delay. A list of tablets I've used: (some are from amazon so may not be known at all here) Fusion5 Q102, Dragon Touch X10, Original Tesco Hudl, Acer Inonia B1-7A0. These all worked find with the touchpad.
However, I bought a Huawei MediaPad M3 Lite 8 and the keyboard worked fine. But the touchpad was horrible and sluggish. You could go into setup and adjust the pointer speed, but that didn't solve the fact that it is sluggish and takes time for it to catch up to where it has been taken. I thought it could be the bluetooth version. The M3 had 4.0 and android 7.0. But I then went to Currys PC world to try out nearly 10 of their tablets with each of these keyboards. The keyboards always worked fine. But the touchpad worked fine with some of them but terribly with others. I could not find the reason as to why it worked with some an not others. Well, it always worked, but when it has the problem, the problem is always the same, just slow and unresponsive and keeps dropping off. I wanted to try the Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus. But they didn't have that in stock. I tried the model below (just not the plus model) and that had the same unresponsive problem with both touchpads. But I went yet another model down (Tab E8) and that worked as flawlessly as my old Acer tablet which I've used for nearly a year. But that was to low specification for what I was wanting.
I then tried buying the Lenovo Tab4 8 Plus from amazon. This has suitable specification for what I want. But when I recieved it, the trackpad works but is very difficult to use again. This problem baffles me as I tried tablets in the store which had the same bluetooth and andorid version and some of them worked fine. Like the Amazon kindle fire and the 8 inch version of my acer tablet. I also tried a samsung tablet with android 8.1 and that worked fine with it but that was well above my price limit.
I've been using by Tab4 8 plus for a few days now and it is an excellent tablet so i want to stick with it. But I am really wanting a keyboard with a touchpad that works. Basically that can fold up into a case like in the first link. I asked the seller of the 2nd keyboard with a touchpad and they said that the touchpad should be compatible with all android devices. Well it is working, but not very usable for many tasks. I don't get on with windows either. I'm basically wanting a small laptop with android, but I don't think such a thing is made. I get on with Linux ok, but it is so difficult to find very small laptops these days. There are several touchpad keyboards for android out there. But I don't want to keep buying until i figure out what it is that makes it so unpredictable weather it will work properly with any tablets. If Lenovo made a case with a keyboard and trackpad, that would be so nice!
All my previous tablets were budget ones. It is just frustrating that I've only managed to get touchpads to work with my budget tablets. If I pay more, I expect a wider range of compatibility.
I would much appreciate some help with this. I don't have a smartphone and that is because of my difficulties with touchscreen. I've got on well with my Acer tablet in the last year, but could really do with an upgrade. I'm happy with the performance of my new Lenovo, but am so confused about what sort of touchpad it needs to work well with it. Given logitech make keyboards for android (too big in my case) it must be possible to get such a thing for android. I just don't know what to buy.
I've attached a screenshot to show what I use. A similar designed keyboard or entire new case with a keyboard and touchpad is what i'm after. Or a way around fixing what I have. If I'm getting a new one, a UK keyboard would be a big preference, but the touchpad is the priority so i could cope with an international layout.
Many thanks.
Hi everyone! As the title makes it clear I am interested in these 2 clocks. Can you tell me the pros and cons of both models. Or recommend me some other clock for that money.
Thanks!
I can't say anything specifically about the Stratos. A bit of looking on Google suggests it's a tethered device.
I got the Lem8 myself - just arrived today. Decently powerful device, running a full copy of Android 7.1. Battery life, so far, hasn't been great - but I've been excessively playing with it too, new device and all. It's a bit chunky, but otherwise, the only real issues are that regular Android apps aren't tuned to work on a round display for the most part, and you've effectively got a fully featured lower mid-range smartphone strapped to your wrist with a 550mAh battery.
Rooting is easy enough - find a copy of the stock firmware (there are other boards dedicated to such devices, which is where I found the firmware), use Magisk to root it.
It's got a decent display from my limited time with it. Stock apps seem to work well enough, phone quality (at least receiving) seemed good enough. It does have US LTE band support, at least for AT&T and their MVNOs.
@irony_delerium
Do you have a link to sich a firmware for the Lem8, please?
I have a couple of the Fire 7" 2015 models that have started to collect dust because over time the OS updates have slowed it to a crawl. I believe this is the "Ford" hardware? But I'm not 100% sure. A couple of years ago, I looked into roms because my 2nd gen HD model (tate?) had an excellent cyanogen mod that made it run SO MUCH BETTER than fire OS, but that device broke. But nothing for this hardware existed.
Now I've heard TWRP and root exist for this device, but I'm having a hard time sorting through the various models being discussed here. Are there custom roms for this device now? Is there a way to breathe new life into the hardware and make it usable again as an Android tablet?
I also have an HD8 (original), but that one isn't quite as bad as the standard 7" models. If anyone has any advice or pointers to make either of these usable again, please let me know?
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I have a couple of the Fire 7" 2015 models that have started to collect dust because over time the OS updates have slowed it to a crawl. I believe this is the "Ford" hardware? But I'm not 100% sure. A couple of years ago, I looked into roms because my 2nd gen HD model (tate?) had an excellent cyanogen mod that made it run SO MUCH BETTER than fire OS, but that device broke. But nothing for this hardware existed.
Now I've heard TWRP and root exist for this device, but I'm having a hard time sorting through the various models being discussed here. Are there custom roms for this device now? Is there a way to breathe new life into the hardware and make it usable again as an Android tablet?
I also have an HD8 (original), but that one isn't quite as bad as the standard 7" models. If anyone has any advice or pointers to make either of these usable again, please let me know?
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You can repurpose or re-use your Fire tablet:
Digital Clock.
Digital Photo Frame.
MIDI controller.
NAS (network-attached storage) server.
If your Fire tablet is dead. You can salvage any parts such as the battery.
My wife bought a 4 pack of these in 2015 or 2016, she put them away to use the next year..... we found them last week. Whoops. Two of them won't take a charge, two will. I've debloated and set Nova as default and installed Play Store on both. They have a pathetic amount of storage so you won't be using them for much, but they are not bad for a single purpose or light usage.
One of mine sits on my desk running ZMNinja while I'm home so I can glance at my security cameras, it does that rather well. The other I have more general purpose stuff on it, and most of it runs okay.. Some apps just crash however, like imgur for some reason, haven't bothered to look at logcat.
And they would be fine for ebooks too