Hi,
Tomorow or the day after I will get my Moto x pure, don't want to root it yet, I prefer to wait 2 or 3 months.
So my question is can I backup all my app and setting from my Galaxy S5 rooted with adb backup and then restore the backup without get any trouble or bootloop ?
Or do you have another idea without rooting ?
Thanks
Titanium Backup will do exactly what you want... Archive applications, app data, and settings from your old phone, and allow you to restore those into your new phone. The catch is that you DO need root.
You can't use adb or nandroid backups like you were thinking, because you are moving those files to different hardware. Nandroid backups only work when you are moving to the same hardware (e.g. you received a new replacement phone because your old phone got damaged, and you want to move over all of your data and settings).
If you are familiar with computers, Titanium Backup is like running a backup program (for tape backups). Nandroid is like doing a drive image. A Nandroid (drive image) will capture and restore a lot more data that a backup program, and will be easier to restore. But it only works if you are restoring to exactly the same hardware.
If you are considering root, I actually recommend you just do it on day 1. Getting root (and unlocked bootloader) on this phone will wipe your device. So you might as well do it when your phone is unused. Plus, you get the benefits of root on day 1, such as being able to run Titanium Backup to easily port over your apps and data; and being able to run GravityBox (an XPosed module) to tweak the UI however you would like.
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kent1146 is right that the unlocking the bootloader will totally wipe your phone, including the internal SD card. I had already set up my phone before unlocking and expected to lose my apps and settings, but was shocked to also lose everything on the internal SD.
When I transferred over from my GS3 the first time, I used the NFC/WiFi Moto Migrate app during initial setup. That was a mistake. It took forever and stuff didn't end up where I wanted it, plus is only works for some of your data. After unlocking my bootloader, I simply copied my GS3 internal SD contents to my computer over WiFi, then copied what I wanted over to the MXPE internal SD via WiFi. That was faster and I got exactly what I wanted and how I wanted it set up.
As for your apps, Google will take care of that by downloading (over WiFi) all the apps that you have on your current account to the new device, along with your contacts and a few settings. I recommend that approach to get a clean start with the new phone. Garbage accumulates over time, and it helps both performance and SD space to start fresh. I use TiBackup religiously, but chose to restore only a few app settings with it on the MXPE.
Without root, if you're decide not to, helium backup worked amazing for me
Well I will try helium at first, because I realy want to test the phone before unlooking it. And in that case I think I could do a Nandroid BAckup with ADB and restore it in the same hardware after unlocking the phone.
I will root if I get a lot of battery drain to see what appened.
When we have the root do we are able to get the OTA upadte or we need a patch for it ?
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Well I will try helium at first, because I realy want to test the phone before unlooking it. And in that case I think I could do a Nandroid BAckup with ADB and restore it in the same hardware after unlocking the phone.
I will root if I get a lot of battery drain to see what appened.
When we have the root do we are able to get the OTA upadte or we need a patch for it ?
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We won't know for sure until the first OTA update is released, but I would guess so if that's all we do. My warranty still shows as valid on Moto's website and the fastboot screen shows the OS as "original." With that "original" designation, I'm guessing that OTA updates will probably work. We'll see for sure come Marshmallow.
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Well I will try helium at first, because I realy want to test the phone before unlooking it. And in that case I think I could do a Nandroid BAckup with ADB and restore it in the same hardware after unlocking the phone.
I will root if I get a lot of battery drain to see what appened.
When we have the root do we are able to get the OTA upadte or we need a patch for it ?
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You won't get OTA if you root.
Rooting will require you install a non-stock bootloader (TWRP), which wont automatically install OTA. Plus, root access will modify /system files, causing the OTA to fail.
Typical process for updating an unlocked and rooted phone is to restore your recovery and root access to stock, take the OTA update, then re-apply custom recovery and root. Or, just wait until someone has a flashable ROM that contains the OTA
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Is my stuff gone once i do the factory reset??
How do i get TB to restore everything if it in itself is wiped from my phone?
Help to a good backup discussion source would be MUCH appreciated
Copy the backup folder to the external SD card, then pull the card when you restore. or use the built in dropbox sync.......
well i suppose you did a backup first right? you cant restore if you didint backup first.
so if you make a backup just reinstall TB (get root and sideloading first)
and then all should be fine (if you have the folder in your pc, dropbox, or whatever put again to SD card internal o external) if you change the name just make sure in preference point the Folder Name and you can restore now.
Yes i backed up, but forgot to copy the folder over to SD card....but i browsed and saw TB folder in phone memory so hopefully it'll be fine to pull from there...?
OK, so here's another question that confuses me: i was backing up so i could flash the new update 1.5.7 to try to fix some battery issues. i did a hard reset first, now am flashing 1.5.7 - then i will need to root after that i am guessing right?
What is most recommended after flashing 1.5.7 - root only then freeze manually, flash custom rom, something else? just looking for what others are mostly doing to optimize device for now
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Yes i backed up, but forgot to copy the folder over to SD card....but i browsed and saw TB folder in phone memory so hopefully it'll be fine to pull from there...?
OK, so here's another question that confuses me: i was backing up so i could flash the new update 1.5.7 to try to fix some battery issues. i did a hard reset first, now am flashing 1.5.7 - then i will need to root after that i am guessing right?
What is most recommended after flashing 1.5.7 - root only then freeze manually, flash custom rom, something else? just looking for what others are mostly doing to optimize device for now
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Flashing directly to 1.57 will not allow you to root. You need to flash to 1.26 then use the retain root method to update to 1.57. As far as TB goes, it stores on the internal SD which isn't cleared by a factory reset but I always keep a backup on my external SD. Personally I am on 1.57 and running gingerblur 1.3 which has been quite smooth and it removes most of the bloatware for you. The rest can be frozen using TB.
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oh whoops, ok, back to 1.26, then to 1.57..sigh, that flash to 1.57 took like 4 tries and kept hanging....i don't know why my piece does that
Edit: How do i retain root?
Follow the directions here to obtain root on 4.1.57
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
One last question:
Once i flash something, be it a new SBF, custom rom etc, and then do a factory reset from the device, does this just reset me to the last flash or back to a factory default?
Ok, so i lied, i have another question...where did all my messages and stuff go? not sure how to properly backup/restore those with TB....thought they would have been restored with run "restore all apps with data"
Hello, another noob here.
This is my first android phone and I am not too happy about the battery life.
As the recommendation on the forum, I plan to do the "factory reset"
I wanted to confirm some things:
1. This reset people are talking about is >Settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset?
2. I am on 1.57 rooted and with webtop hack. I need to undo webtop hack first before reset?
3. I have titanium pro freezing motoblur stuff, I need to unfreeze them first?
4. Will I become "Unrooted" ?
5. How do i back up contacts with titanium backup pro? (do i back up contacts 2.2.1 OR contact storage 2.2.1)
6. If the reset gets rid of root, should I SBF to 1.2.6 and then factory reset and redo my mods from there?
Thank you, I hope someone can help me get a clearer understanding
I was reading FadedLite's Guide to root the Nexus 7, and one of the commentors posted that you should create a nandroid backup and bootable image after installing CWM but before adding SU. I'm not entirely sure what the purposes of these backups would be, but anyone can download the factory image from google here. So is a nandroid backup really necessary?
This is my first post on xda (although I've been here since March and have rooted 2 devices already) so I'm really hoping I posted this correctly.
I would say, and a lot of XDA users will tell ALWAYS make a backup. Although there might be factory image at Google backing up your own system is a very good idea.
Well, it's not necessary but it's always that just in case notion. I mean what about that slim chance that your USB port was not working and it suddenly stopped working properly?
I make nandroid backups only when I'm testing new ROMs and PLAN to go back to my original. I made a nandroid backup of my Galaxy S III stock ROM and then tried out jelly bean, once I was sick of it I switched back to the stock ROM because it worked obviously
I was just thinking that a backup stored locally would take up a lot of the tablet's very limited space. As long as you can boot into recovery, couldn't I just store it on another device and move the file over while in recovery? While there is a chance of usb malfunction, it is a slim chance... then again I have already perma-bricked one of my devices already, but that was an issue trying to install cwm so I couldn't have made a backup anyways.
Well, if your USB port goes, wifi or Bluetooth transfer would allow you to transfer your backup over. Unless you also don't have a bootable rom at the same time.
Nandroids are huge but it might be a good idea to have a working flashable build on internal memory at all times so you can boot up and transfer stuff.
Koush is developing a new CWR that creates TINY backups, I have no clue how he does it but he does.
unless you are running pure stock from google or a full final rom like cyanogen final, you should always have a backup.
You can download the image, but you lose ALL of your data. A nandroid backup keeps your apps and data.
A nandroid backup of ICS/JB is around 1.5-2GB in size. and yes that is a huge file size. And yes you can remove it from the device and put it back on. i STRONGLY recommend copying the entire directory and then erasing the individual files from your device so you don't forget where they're suppose to go.
If you are planning on doing custom roms or any root activity a nandroid is basically required.
Going to update to a new release? nandroid.
going to install a new theme, boot animation, metamorph? nandroid.
Are the chances small that something will go wrong? yes. But if it does, do you really want to have to redo EVERYTHING on your device?
I do a backup once a week on my galaxy nexus through clockwork mod that way i don't ever have to worry about something going wrong. restore the backup and at the most i'm back to where i was 7 days before.
Also, with USB-OTG you can connect the nexus 7 to a portable hard drive and store your backups there.
Not all flashable zips wipe the device. I actually find it very annoying when devs add wiping to their zips. I flash without wiping a lot and rarely have problems.
Some apps not working after updated to 4.2, so I'm considering back to 4.1.2.
Though I never done this before since the day I get Nexus 7,
I think use Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit should get it done.
But just for sure:
1. Do I need to unlock/root to flash factory 4.1.2 image? (I think it is not but not so sure)
2. Directory structure seems different from 4.1.2, is it OK just using Toolkit to backup/restore settings?
(Sorry for my English if anything looks impolite)
1) unlock bootloader yes; root no, as you're going to overwrite the system anyways.
Also I'd suggest not using a toolkit, just download the factory image off google's page and run the "flash-all.bat"
2) Use Titanium Backup to backup all app data, wipe after flashing 4.1.2 and then restore apps + data with Titanium again
I just downgraded this morning. All your data will be wiped .. ALL YOUR DATA ... meaning, after I got back to 4.1.2 I was having 13GB of free space on the tablet (out of 13 possible) .
So, if you HAVE a nandroid from the 4.1.2 days, save it to your computer (along with all your files).
If you don't have a 4.1.2 nandroid, at least create now a backup repository with whatever tool you prefer and then save the respective files to PC.
Then, flash the factory image for 4.1.2.
Then copy all your files back to the internal memory, install the backup tool and restore your apps.
The reason behind this is that the update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 has some scripts that are porting the original /data and /sdcard mounts to the new structure used in 4.2
When downgrading, you no longer have scripts to do that for you so the newly installed 4.1.2 will not recognize anything so it will bootloop like crazy (I tried first to restore just the /system ... but all the other data was already affected by the update so was no longer usable).
My thoughts:
If you got the ota, and things messed up, try flashing the 4.2 factory image. That seemed to help me. If you're not rooted already, I would recommend becoming familiar with the adb backup command to backup apps before doing anything else. You have to unlock the boot loader to downgrade or flash the factory 4.2 image, and this will wipe the device.
Once you update either way, definitely take the time to root. You can then use adb restore or titanium backup to restore from the adb backup you made before unlocking.
Just be aware that adb backup doesn't seem to backup all apps, and that titanium backup isn't exactly fast parsing through a big adb backup file.
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step by step?
srry, very nooby questions:
how do i flash my nexus?
where do i find the factory image?
what is the backup tool?
ro_explorer said:
I just downgraded this morning. All your data will be wiped .. ALL YOUR DATA ... meaning, after I got back to 4.1.2 I was having 13GB of free space on the tablet (out of 13 possible) .
So, if you HAVE a nandroid from the 4.1.2 days, save it to your computer (along with all your files).
If you don't have a 4.1.2 nandroid, at least create now a backup repository with whatever tool you prefer and then save the respective files to PC.
Then, flash the factory image for 4.1.2.
Then copy all your files back to the internal memory, install the backup tool and restore your apps.
The reason behind this is that the update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 has some scripts that are porting the original /data and /sdcard mounts to the new structure used in 4.2
When downgrading, you no longer have scripts to do that for you so the newly installed 4.1.2 will not recognize anything so it will bootloop like crazy (I tried first to restore just the /system ... but all the other data was already affected by the update so was no longer usable).
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1) unlock bootloader yes; root no, as you're going to overwrite the system anyways.
Also I'd suggest not using a toolkit, just download the factory image off google's page and run the "flash-all.bat"
2) Use Titanium Backup to backup all app data, wipe after flashing 4.1.2 and then restore apps + data with Titanium again
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restoring my apps with Titanium Backup is unsuccessful , when i first tried a full app+data restore it freezes at 0 percent
and when i tried backuping app the missing apps , it worked but after i rebooted it . It went into a bootloop
Youssef Hossam said:
restoring my apps with Titanium Backup is unsuccessful , when i first tried a full app+data restore it freezes at 0 percent and when i tried backuping app the missing apps , it worked but after i rebooted it . It went into a bootloop
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Assumed you are referring to downgrade from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 and rooted to run TB, so the basic stock rom is up & running otherwise, correct?
Let's try Plan B instead - go into (Custom) Recovery and wipe dalvik cache first, then reboot. Give it a few minutes to settle and try to do your TB restore WITHOUT data, and see if it works. The /SD and/or /SD/0 directory structures are setup differently on the N7 and trying to retore with your custom settings will just make it more difficult & complicated. If this works, you can then try to selectively restore one or more with data and hopefully without going into endless bootloop again.
Plan C - go to Play Store, then Settings and "All" - you should see all of your Apps and what's installed, etc. - and install from there, it's semi-manual but it works for me 99.8% of the time when it would otherwise freeze within TB, especially true when switching custom Rom & kernels.
I usually manually copy & move back items such as documents, pictures & mp3's, etc. from standalone/usb backup drives or cloud storage back into the device once everything else are up & running properly.
Let us know if this helps & working for you or not.
Thankss !
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Assumed you are referring to downgrade from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 and rooted to run TB, so the basic stock rom is up & running otherwise, correct?
Let's try Plan B instead - go into (Custom) Recovery and wipe dalvik cache first, then reboot. Give it a few minutes to settle and try to do your TB restore WITHOUT data, and see if it works. The /SD and/or /SD/0 directory structures are setup differently on the N7 and trying to retore with your custom settings will just make it more difficult & complicated. If this works, you can then try to selectively restore one or more with data and hopefully without going into endless bootloop again.
Plan C - go to Play Store, then Settings and "All" - you should see all of your Apps and what's installed, etc. - and install from there, it's semi-manual but it works for me 99.8% of the time when it would otherwise freeze within TB, especially true when switching custom Rom & kernels.
I usually manually copy & move back items such as documents, pictures & mp3's, etc. from standalone/usb backup drives or cloud storage back into the device once everything else are up & running properly.
Let us know if this helps & working for you or not.
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Thanks for your help , but I think the problem was that there were apps in the backup only compatible with the custom ROM I had and android 4.2.1 xD
I restored the apps one by one , but I think if I deleted the extra custom rom apps , the process would have finished without any problems
Hi fellow people,
i'm a noob just made my xda account like 5 mins ago. I've been trying to search for my problem but I haven't really a found a direct answer. So yesterday I just got my Samsung Galaxy nexus update to 4.2.1. I was really excited until I started having the battery issues, screen lock issues, and overheating problem. I really don't like 4.2.1 and want to downgrade my version back 4.1.2. My carrier is the Mobicility (Canadian). I did not do anything previously with this phone such as rooting it, doing all the funky stuff that will void my warranty. I heard about flashing some google images to get back 4.1.2 but I'm not sure if I need to root or how to like do it through the gnex toolkit that mskip made. As well what if the difference between yakju and maguro? I heard if you flash the wrong image it will brick your phone or something like that. If there is a method without having to root it and lose all my contacts, then I would prefer that a lot.
Thanks,
mleung754
mleung754 said:
Hi fellow people,
i'm a noob just made my xda account like 5 mins ago. I've been trying to search for my problem but I haven't really a found a direct answer. So yesterday I just got my Samsung Galaxy nexus update to 4.2.1. I was really excited until I started having the battery issues, screen lock issues, and overheating problem. I really don't like 4.2.1 and want to downgrade my version back 4.1.2. My carrier is the Mobicility (Canadian). I did not do anything previously with this phone such as rooting it, doing all the funky stuff that will void my warranty. I heard about flashing some google images to get back 4.1.2 but I'm not sure if I need to root or how to like do it through the gnex toolkit that mskip made. As well what if the difference between yakju and maguro? I heard if you flash the wrong image it will brick your phone or something like that. If there is a method without having to root it and lose all my contacts, then I would prefer that a lot.
Thanks,
mleung754
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You dont have to root but you need to UNLOCK the bootloader which will obviously erase all your data(and VOID your warranty). you can find the factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images . just flash the appropriate image and you should be as good to go.
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Hi fellow people,
i'm a noob just made my xda account like 5 mins ago. I've been trying to search for my problem but I haven't really a found a direct answer. So yesterday I just got my Samsung Galaxy nexus update to 4.2.1. I was really excited until I started having the battery issues, screen lock issues, and overheating problem. I really don't like 4.2.1 and want to downgrade my version back 4.1.2. My carrier is the Mobicility (Canadian). I did not do anything previously with this phone such as rooting it, doing all the funky stuff that will void my warranty. I heard about flashing some google images to get back 4.1.2 but I'm not sure if I need to root or how to like do it through the gnex toolkit that mskip made. As well what if the difference between yakju and maguro? I heard if you flash the wrong image it will brick your phone or something like that. If there is a method without having to root it and lose all my contacts, then I would prefer that a lot.
Thanks,
mleung754
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mleung754,
You are posting in the wrong forum.
Asus Nexus 7 is not the same thing as a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Ignore mmystere68's remarks.
Hi
As you've prob guessed I'm a noob, hence the help.
Ive just recently rooted and unlocked my nexus 7 with wugfresh 1.6.2 and am now looking at putting a custom rom on it.
Ive followed the advice and put titanium backup on and backed up my apps and system data.
Having read the instructions for installing Smooth Rom 4.4, it states 'Please do not restore a 'system' data backup as it would overwritte some important files'
does this mean I cannot restore my apps from titanium backup as I cant restore system data as they where backed up together or is there some other way for me to do it ?
does titanium backup get wiped as well ?
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
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All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
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The most important thing to do is to make a FULL nandroid backup before you begin.
The 2nd most important thing to do is to get that backup copied someplace else besides the tablet. (PC, USB key, etc) Screw-ups involving accidental erasure of the psuedo- SD card area on the tablet are commonplace with folks that are new to this. It won't do you any good to make a backup if you immediately erase it while fooling around with a custom recovery (or toolkit) that is new to you.
I suggest you learn to make backups using the custom recovery rather than relying on a toolkit.
If you are happy with the tablet in it's current configuration, then a back-up allows you to survive any ****-ups that inevitably follow as you can return back to a known state and proceed again having learned from your mistakes.
FULL NANDROID BACKUPS. COPIED SOMEPLACE SAFE (OFF THE TABLET)
As for TiB, the only thing that is 100% safe is to only restore apps & their data that are NOT pre-installed in whatever ROM you are installing. Note this means not restoring any of the Google gapps as well, as you may have had a different versions of those apps running on your current ROM than on the to-be-installed ROM, whether pre-installed or updated later.
Yeah it's a bit of work restoring apps one by one and re-configuring things. There probably are System apps that can have their data safely restored to the wrong version of the app - but there are absolutely no guarantees that correct operation of the app will follow that.
cheers and good luck
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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I'm on rooted 4.3. going to rooted Jasmine 6
Sporttster said:
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
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This shouldn't even be a concern.. You're missing the most important step in flashing a new ROM. It should be in every single ROM thread, for any device here on XDA, its usually the first on the list of instructions...?
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM!!
You do this in your custom recovery, TWRP, CWM or Phils...
This restores your system exactly as it was, when you made the backup, your call logs, messages, apps, app datas, even app caches, if you select it when making the backup..
Backups are one of the main purposes for a custom recovery, if you screw up, you can always go back..
Were you not aware of this till now??
Unless you're intention is to stick with the ROM, that's not rooted.. Not sure why you'd want that, but everyone's different, so I'd recommend using Helium instead of TB, root isn't required with that app..
I'm not on a developer edition. It does not have a unlocked bootloader, so not sure I can 'go back' if the thing doesn't work right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've heard once you flash past 4.4 there is no going back to root and I'm going to 6. In the past on unlocked units I've had no problems going back. But locked is another animal...it's rooted but not unlocked...