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Hi, can I change touch dual the GSM from Tri-band to Quad-band,
for the better reception in USA.
I know the touch can do that, Thank
Now that its going to be available in the US with quad band, does it mean tri band niki can be changed to quad band?
shupacanucks said:
Now that its going to be available in the US with quad band, does it mean tri band niki can be changed to quad band?
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I would like to know this too
It could be possible, but the RF chipset could be totally different on the two models.
There wouldn't be much of a reason for HTC to restrict the current tri band duals with the way the various operators have deals with other overseas operators.
clonmult said:
It could be possible, but the RF chipset could be totally different on the two models.
There wouldn't be much of a reason for HTC to restrict the current tri band duals with the way the various operators have deals with other overseas operators.
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You would think they would have designed, developed the radio chip long ago, and the new edition would only contain software changes to the OS, and Hardware soft updates
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I too would like to know if this is possible. The best buy website has a touch dual listed with 850. I called their customer support and they couldn't give me any information on release date or even a model number. Will the US version of the dual have 850? I want to know if I can get this $500 phone to work here (area code 318 with ATT) on just the 1900 band or do I need the 850 band for better reception. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Any luck? I would like to upgrade to the quad band
theres only one version of the dual that is quad band and that is the US version being sold by BEST BUY.
Thanks for the reply I figured I was out of luck, so I ordered the us version yesterday.
Bought the triband Dual but, soon figured out that it doesnt work well in the states.
I thought I would give it a go.
Thanks
Was working on 850MHZ than....
My HTC touch was working on 850 MHZ than I had a tech at my provider's, setting up my internet.
Since that moment it does not work anymore:
Getting the signal but not able to make calls or receive calls.
The guy tried to fix it. It worked for a couple of calls and than stopped working.
Back to the tech, he told me it s because of the 850mhz on which they operate.
He said that even if it was working fine, it wasn't meant for their network (850 MHZ).
Should I believe him?
(the phone works fine with 1900MHZ band from another company)
How can I fix this?
wish there was a radio upgrade like the latest for the diamond that enabled the 850 band
Hi there guys! Now that the phones are finally shipping, can anyone please test the real band compatibility? I want to buy an unlocked G2 and use it here in Italy, but only if I can get at least a fully working 3G connection.
Please fellas, I badly need this info..
Thanks
Neuromansa said:
Hi there guys! Now that the phones are finally shipping, can anyone please test the real band compatibility? I want to buy an unlocked G2 and use it here in Italy, but only if I can get at least a fully working 3G connection.
Please fellas, I badly need this info..
Thanks
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No such luck chief. The only 3G band on the G2 is AWS. It will only work on carriers like T-Mobile (USA), and Wind (Canada).
The stock Desire Z, however, has HSDPA 900 / 2100 and should work in most non-US countries on 3G, but check your carriers bands first. The downside, Desire Z has 1.5 GB storage, the G2 has 4 GB.
Neuromansa said:
Hi there guys! Now that the phones are finally shipping, can anyone please test the real band compatibility? I want to buy an unlocked G2 and use it here in Italy, but only if I can get at least a fully working 3G connection.
Please fellas, I badly need this info..
Thanks
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Unfortunately I think you are going to be disappointed. I posted a buzz about this a while back. You can look at page 3 of the test report in the FCC submission. The nutshell summary is that the device will only support Band IV for 3G, or in other words T-Mo US' UMTS 1700. This is unfortunate since I used my unlocked G1 quite a lot overseas, thanks to its UMTS 900/2100.
You'll probably have to go with a Desire Z if you want this device with European radios.
Can't believe it's for real...I mean, the 2-year-old G1 does that...and what about people working overseas?
That's a MAJOR fault from T-Mobile, and it's totally weird to say the least.
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and what about people working overseas?
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Perhaps tmo figures that frequent int'l travelers are a small enough percentage of their userbase that omitting the Band I poweramp was worth the cost savings?
Oh, it gets better. I only paid attention to the UMTS bands when I read the report, assuming that any modern smartphone would be a quad-band GSM device. Turns out the G2 is only GSM 850/1900, which means this device is truly unusable in Europe and Asia.
Wait a minute, what GSM bands are used in Asia?
The HTC site says otherwise : http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2#tech-specs
According to T-Mobile and HTC sites specs, the phone is GSM quad band (850, 900, 1800, 1900).
The HTC site says "UMTS: Yes"
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Wait a minute, what GSM bands are used in Asia?
The HTC site says otherwise : http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2#tech-specs
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Europe and Asia are GSM 900/1800, generally. What is interesting is that the HTC page claims the G2 is quadband, but the FCC testing documents don't show any 900/1800 data at all. The phone cannot legally operate in the U.S. in that band unless testing data has been submitted to the FCC. I'm wondering if HTC marketing just c&p from the Desire Z specs and forgot to edit the GSM infos. We'll see soon enough I suppose.
it doesn't make sense why they would release a phone that wasnt quad band. it must be a mistake. it is like power seats on a luxury car. it's just there lol.
So a unlocked G2 could be used on WINDs network here in Canada (because they use the same frequency), can some one confirm this please
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So a unlocked G2 could be used on WINDs network here in Canada (because they use the same frequency), can some one confirm this please
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Wind uses AWS (UMTS Band IV)... So, yes. But if they do not have HSPA+ enhancements you won't get the famed and promised super speed. The phone should be able to be used on USA (T-Mobile, Cincinnati Bell Wireless), Canada (WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, Videotron)
Based on the G1 test reports...
... the bands listed in the FCC test reports are not at all definitive.
I pulled the FCC exhibits for the G1 and they listed:
GSM 850
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band IV
(plus 802.11 etc)
In other words, no Band I.
However, I've been successfully using my G1 on 3G in both Europe and Asia for over a year now, so it actually has Band I.
I suspect the FCC tests only cover the frequencies that the device is going to be used on *in the US*. Frequencies the device may or may not be capable of using outside the US just aren't relevant.
That being said, the more significant detail is that the T-mobile site lists the G2 as only having Band IV, even though it lists the Vibrant as having Bands I and IV. Looking at other phones, it seems that T-mobile isn't terribly consistent in how they list their frequencies, but that's a (relatively) slim thread to hang onto.
crr127 said:
it doesn't make sense why they would release a phone that wasnt quad band. it must be a mistake. it is like power seats on a luxury car. it's just there lol.
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It is quad-band -- for GSM -- as all (most?) modern non-CDMA phones (and some of those) are. But the OP question is about 3G.
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I suspect the FCC tests only cover the frequencies that the device is going to be used on *in the US*. Frequencies the device may or may not be capable of using outside the US just aren't relevant.
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Good sleuthing. I didn't consider this possibility.
That being said, the more significant detail is that the T-mobile site lists the G2 as only having Band IV, even though it lists the Vibrant as having Bands I and IV. Looking at other phones, it seems that T-mobile isn't terribly consistent in how they list their frequencies, but that's a (relatively) slim thread to hang onto.
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I wouldn't put it past T-mo to have just messed up the detail.
I suppose the easiest way to determine would be for someone with an unlocked G2 (or even a locked unit) to take it to Europe or Asia and see if the system status shows UMTS signal or not.
Unlocked G2 Australian user
Hey Guys,
I actually received my G2 a few days ago. Yesterday i purchased an unlock code and entered this in to the phone which it advised was accepted.
The device then rebooted, however once the system loaded i noticed my signal bar had an "x" through it.
Browsed to Network Operators and tried selecting to search for networks and also to select automatically. Both of these selections returned an error "error searching for network" or every second try it would say "unable to connect to network".
I tried a factory reset of my phone but still the same issue.
I tried dialing *#*#4636#*#* which opens a testing screen. I noticed on this screen i can see i have a signal of -85 dBm which is similar to on my galaxy s.
Tried playing with the settings on this screen, i had the option to select network band to which i alternated between all options including auto and AUS, AUS2.
I can confirm this is a Vodafone simcard and it works perfectly in other phones.
I tried a Telstra, 3 and a friends Vodafone simacard all of which produced the same error.
I noticed there are several Australian sites selling unlocked Tmobile G2's.
At this point i would like to try flashing the stock rom on again however i am not sure on the button combo to access the recovery screen.
Last thing to note is yes i have spoke with Vodafone, HTC AU and HTC US, none of the techs were able to help me. =(
TheRiceKing said:
I tried dialing *#*#4636#*#* which opens a testing screen. I noticed on this screen i can see i have a signal of -85 dBm which is similar to on my galaxy s.
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What was the network type when you saw the -85 dBm signal?
jashsu said:
What was the network type when you saw the -85 dBm signal?
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Just checked right now and it says,
Signal stregth -91dBm 11 asu
Under Network Type it says unkown CID is also unkown.
Would a G2 work on Softbank (Japanese Carrier) They use the 2100 band IV I believe. I know my T-Mobile Nexus One worked fine on there 3G.
I could care less if the HSPA+ worked just 3G would be fine.
Okawa said:
Would a G2 work on Softbank (Japanese Carrier) They use the 2100 band IV I believe. I know my T-Mobile Nexus One worked fine on there 3G.
I could care less if the HSPA+ worked just 3G would be fine.
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Band IV is commonly referred to as AWS 1700. From the gsmworld entry, it looks like Softbank is running on Band I ("UMTS 2100"). The G1 and Nexus One both had UMTS 900 & UMTS 2100 (the global bands) in addition to T-Mo specific AWS 1700. We're trying to determine if the G2 also has 900&2100 radios, but right now it's not looking very good.
I have searched many place and I am getting conflicting info.
I am going to Taiwan in couple days and would like to know if my US TMo HD2 would work with 3G network over there.
Through my research, I believed that most carrier in Taiwan uses UMTS Band I (UMTS2100) for their 3G network.
I know T-Mobile uses UMTS Bnad IV (UMTS1700), but what I am not sure is does the US TMo HD2 has both Band I and Band IV or just Band IV?
In the WinMo setup, there is an option to change Band Frequency and it has both UMTS(1700) and UMTS(2100) as choices. Does that mean it has both Band I and IV?
Also, am I correct that if the frequency is available in WinMo, it would be available in SD loaded Android? I couldn't find when in Android to see available band frequencies
Thanks for any help.
tongslee said:
I have searched many place and I am getting conflicting info.
I am going to Taiwan in couple days and would like to know if my US TMo HD2 would work with 3G network over there.
Through my research, I believed that most carrier in Taiwan uses UMTS Band I (UMTS2100) for their 3G network.
I know T-Mobile uses UMTS Bnad IV (UMTS1700), but what I am not sure is does the US TMo HD2 has both Band I and Band IV or just Band IV?
In the WinMo setup, there is an option to change Band Frequency and it has both UMTS(1700) and UMTS(2100) as choices. Does that mean it has both Band I and IV?
Also, am I correct that if the frequency is available in WinMo, it would be available in SD loaded Android? I couldn't find when in Android to see available band frequencies
Thanks for any help.
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Yes, just add a new APN setting to your...APN.
tongslee said:
I have searched many place and I am getting conflicting info.
I am going to Taiwan in couple days and would like to know if my US TMo HD2 would work with 3G network over there.
Through my research, I believed that most carrier in Taiwan uses UMTS Band I (UMTS2100) for their 3G network.
I know T-Mobile uses UMTS Bnad IV (UMTS1700), but what I am not sure is does the US TMo HD2 has both Band I and Band IV or just Band IV?
In the WinMo setup, there is an option to change Band Frequency and it has both UMTS(1700) and UMTS(2100) as choices. Does that mean it has both Band I and IV?
Also, am I correct that if the frequency is available in WinMo, it would be available in SD loaded Android? I couldn't find when in Android to see available band frequencies
Thanks for any help.
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It should work fine. The t-mobile hd2 has both 2100mhz and aws (aka 1700/2100 together. for tmo 3g) for 3g and more for 2g.
Thanks guys.
Neither HTC or T-Mobile display the band frequency using the standard format so it's kind of confusing.
Thanks for clearing it up for me
Happy Holidays
tongslee said:
I have searched many place and I am getting conflicting info.
I am going to Taiwan in couple days and would like to know if my US TMo HD2 would work with 3G network over there.
Through my research, I believed that most carrier in Taiwan uses UMTS Band I (UMTS2100) for their 3G network.
I know T-Mobile uses UMTS Bnad IV (UMTS1700), but what I am not sure is does the US TMo HD2 has both Band I and Band IV or just Band IV?
In the WinMo setup, there is an option to change Band Frequency and it has both UMTS(1700) and UMTS(2100) as choices. Does that mean it has both Band I and IV?
Also, am I correct that if the frequency is available in WinMo, it would be available in SD loaded Android? I couldn't find when in Android to see available band frequencies
Thanks for any help.
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To provide some evidence, I just got back from Taiwan and it works fine on FarEastTone and Chunghwa.
3G works well here in Taiwan.
I am sending it from Vibo network.
Just a note, only Vibo network have pre pay data sim.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
Yes I will also like to know as well. Because I would to get this vein so I don't have to stock with a contact.
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Warrimonk said:
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
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Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
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Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
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Thanks, this is helpful.
However I am torn between which band would be more useful to me, 850 or 1900 (I live in a rural area). I can live with 3G but not 2G,
UPDATE: A G2 with model number F320S was listed on eBay saying it supports HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100 in the description. I messaged the seller to make sure it was not a mistake, and he assured me that the device does support these 3G frequencies and that it would get 3G signal on carriers Canada.
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
Thanks
tpcastelli said:
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
Thanks
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What carrier are you with? You should only get 3G, since none of the LTE variants that work in the US are released yet.
Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
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Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
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MoreLocale 2 in the app store seems to do the trick but I don't have an lg g2 to test it. I guess you need to root it first and grant superuser permissions because of the way jellybean handles it.I came up with this thru a couple Google searches so its untested.
I'm tempted. I'm on straight talk in the USA. If it worked, tell me as a thanks cause I kinda want to get it. I wonder if it supports tmobiles hspa+42 network. I use a T-Mobile straight talk sim card...., it runs off of T-Mobile's network but I pay straight talk but no LTE.
I will give it a try. First I need root, do you know where I can get root for the LG G2?
Warrimonk said:
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
No info on the 320L
Thanks. That clears a lot up. It is good to see 2 models with a large range of bands.
It really is amazing how many websites had bad info.
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Along the same lines, does anyone know what the model number is of the G2 that works on Verizon bands?
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
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I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
Billy Madison said:
I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
krmdb said:
I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
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I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
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I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
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Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
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Yes
Billy Madison said:
I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I'm using the F320K and here is the bands i have.
So i am considering buying this phone, but I have only 1 concern about lte on this website: http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_230088.html it says that 4f bands are only:FDD-LTE 1800/2100/2600MHz, so will it work in Canada?? I checked http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/ and It only compatable with 2100, no 1700 is it fine if I only have 1?
Help please!!!
Bump!!
Bump!
Bump!
Any canadians??
I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
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Carriers use more than 1 band cause the don't have full coverage with only 1 so sometimes you should have LTE coverage and sometimes don't , I'm in the same dilemma the phone is really good but not having the LTE bands used in US is a deal breaker, I'm waiting to October cause its supposed to be officially released to the US and maybe they'll release a revised version with the LTE bands used here.
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I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
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Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
Kamran9558 said:
Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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Can you check it? Three use 1800 band and have launched their 800 band recently(not wide spread at the moment) which would improve their indoor 4G coverage, EE already use 800/1800 bands,
I think you can probably check in the service menu.
Mine hasn't come yet, I got scammed on zukphone.cc by a PayPal account called [email protected]. PayPal are investigating but my Dad has a OnePlus One and he has 4G on Three so I can only assume it will work.
Any Canadians bought it???
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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It does.
Check on willmyphonework.net
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Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
Bump to see if anyone has got it working in canada and with which company.
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (...) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Seriously dude, it's on the same page even.
stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Why won't it work on Telus/Koodo? I checked the bands and it has the 3g bands that work on Telus/Koodo.