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Hi everyone, so I am the proud owner of 3 Nexus S' and I have to say, probably the most awesome phone I have ever owned... Battery life is good on all 3 phones with an average of 20 hours on average use... however as soon as I enable LATITUDE on either of the 3 devices.. battery life drops to around 8 hours with the same average use. I believe people are aware of this issue, but I could not find a fix other than obviously disabling the feature.
Is this a software bug for Google yet to fix, or is Latitude/GPS that much of a battery drainer (sometimes up to 20% in battery usage in info)
Same here. Battery drops as soon as it is enabled.
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Well Latitude continuously pings your location to Google, and it's receiving info of where your friends are, so yes, it's a battery hog.
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Well Latitude continuously pings your location to Google, and it's receiving info of where your friends are, so yes, it's a battery hog.
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I honestly believe that's not the problem, especially with hundreds of emails coming through my phone a day. I never had such a drastic battery drain from this feature on another android device (e.g. Nexus One)... I believe it may be linked to either a software bug or hardware issue (I'm assuming Samsung GPS takes up more time and power to acquire the same lock vs an HTC device).
Anyone know of a way to tweak Latitude's GPS refresh rate? I'd like to raise it's minimum to like 30/45min. Or I want to figure out why it's keeping the phone awake 1-3hrs in a single day.
disable location history and auto checkin ...mine doesn't seem to take up as much power after i did that
yeah, there's a bug report if you google. latitude is not that battery hungry on my previous HTC Magic.
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I honestly believe that's not the problem, especially with hundreds of emails coming through my phone a day. I never had such a drastic battery drain from this feature on another android device (e.g. Nexus One)... I believe it may be linked to either a software bug or hardware issue (I'm assuming Samsung GPS takes up more time and power to acquire the same lock vs an HTC device).
Anyone know of a way to tweak Latitude's GPS refresh rate? I'd like to raise it's minimum to like 30/45min. Or I want to figure out why it's keeping the phone awake 1-3hrs in a single day.
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remember when you are signed in to latitude, it does not use the GPS in the background, it only approximates your location from the nearest cell site. when you actually go into maps and into latitude is when it pinpoints your precise location with GPS. soon as you minimize it, the GPS turns off and it goes back to approximating location again.
i cant use latitude in this condition
can u link the bug report please?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15057
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I'm on second Nexus S. I didn't have Latitude enabled on my previous Nexus S. Battery used to last me a day.
On second one, I enabled Latitude and it would last about 5 hours. I didn't think Latitude was problem.. though I should disable after weeks of usage. Then I get about 15 hours with mild usage.
Yea I've stopped using latitude... only manually refreshing it then disabling it every now and then. It was fine on my Nexus One so I don't know why it's such a huge hog on the Nexus S. I submitted a bug report to google a few days after release...
Same issue on my NS when using Latitude as well. I'm wondering if it has something to do with Samsung's GPS functionality as there has notoriously been issues with it with their Galaxy S phones.
Just when I thought I do not have this issue anymore, yesterday Maps was using 70% of my battery, and I saw that it kept my phone awake for 7 hours of my 15 hours period!
I have rebooted my phone and now Maps seems to be at a normal 20% battery usage (still not normal if compared to latitude being enabled on my old HTC Magic).
Really need latitude....
enable latitude always kills your battery life
but set to never sleep in wifi advanced settings will definitely reduce the battery leeching
I hate resurrecting old threads, but there is an alternative to latitude.
Search for altitude, by the same dev that put out betterbatterystats.
It allows you change the refresh on latitude, and how coarse/fine you want it to locate you.
Definitely reduces the resource drain.
I just never open latitude. Till this day its never been open.
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So I also disabled latitude because of this.
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I just never open latitude. Till this day its never been open.
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Try it. Not everybody has the issue.
Actually on that bombshell, Latitude uses very little power when I don't travel and lots when I do, as I expect. The refresh rate depends on how much I move about. Newer versions of Google Maps has tended to use more power than older versions but the update last week has helped.
I don't have any real reason to use Latitude most of the time, other than I can, but my wife uses it to not call me to see where I am. I wonder if the power saved through no call makes up for the drain..?
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I just found this out yesterday but the Note 2 has a separate controller for gathering sensor data.
In short, unlike previously where the CPU had to wake up to gather data, a dedicated low power processor takes care of this!
It works for the accelerometer, magnetosensor, and orientation sensors for sure.
It may also work for the other ones.
Source: Samsung SGS2 Note Development Engineer i talked to yesterday at Samsung's Tech Fair
Interesting. I wonder if that's partly why it gets such fantastic battery life?
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Instead of waking up the whole phone it uses a low-power unit for sensors?
It sounds plausible.
Like when you move your hand above the front sensors when the phone's locked, and half of the screen lights up for a few seconds.
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how about the wifi and bluetooth? if i turn on the wifi and bluetooth all the time, will i get less battery drain than other device?
Olaeli said:
Instead of waking up the whole phone it uses a low-power unit for sensors?
It sounds plausible.
Like when you move your hand above the front sensors when the phone's locked, and half of the screen lights up for a few seconds.
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yes that is exactly one of the features it enables without destroying battery life
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yes that is exactly one of the features it enables without destroying battery life
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And I guess, the Smart Stay, which checks on you every now and then when looking at the screen.
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And I guess, the Smart Stay, which checks on you every now and then when looking at the screen.
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Doesn't Smart Stay use the front-facing camera? I understand that the camera isn't a sensor, as opposed to the proximity and light sensors beside it (correct me if I'm wrong...)
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Doesn't Smart Stay use the front-facing camera? I understand that the camera isn't a sensor, as opposed to the proximity and light sensors beside it (correct me if I'm wrong...)
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Smart Stay pushes the CPU freq to 1600 (aka max freq) every time it has to check.
I don't use smart stay.I prefer a longer battery life.
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DanDroidian said:
I don't use smart stay.I prefer a longer battery life.
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if u never idle til the timeout, smart stay wouldnt activate and no battery drain
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if u never idle til the timeout, smart stay wouldnt activate and no battery drain
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Once it activates, does it continue to check at the regular intervals you have set?
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Once it activates, does it continue to check at the regular intervals you have set?
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afaik it only check when u idle til timeout, so if u keep interact, it should be no extra battery drain
never knew this, great find
It makes sense. That's how it keeps the accelerometer on to let you know when you a missed call or message. And also led notifications hehe. Makes sense to me! And I'm glad they did it this way.
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afaik it only check when u idle til timeout, so if u keep interact, it should be no extra battery drain
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It also shows a little eye symbol in the status bar when it does it. Just before the screen dims it checks to see if someone it looking at it then again just before the screen turns off.
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I don't use smart stay.I prefer a longer battery life.
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I have smart stay turned on and i don't notice any real difference in battery life.
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It also shows a little eye symbol in the status bar when it does it. Just before the screen dims it checks to see if someone it looking at it then again just before the screen turns off.
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busab said:
I have smart stay turned on and i don't notice any real difference in battery life.
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Thanks to everyone for that!
Explained well! And I'll definitely use it from now on! It seems it might possibly use less battery to use this feature than having to tough the screen sometimes to stop it from turning off, and if you're not looking at it, it will just turn off like it normally would.
Basically, I have my timeout set to 1 minute.
Normally, I have to scroll up or down when I see the screen get dim moments before turning off. That's annoying, and sometimes probably spend more time touching the screen and messing something up when trying to do that.
With Smart Stay, if I'm looking at the screen, it checks for a split second (and you see the little "eye" symbol pop up) and it never dims out out either. That is really nice, and I don't have to keep messing with the screen to make sure it doesn't time out, which probably saves battery too. It continues to check for a split second every 1 minute.
If I'm not looking, it simply turns off.
Will definitely be using it from now on!
I also tried the feature where the red glowing sensor stays on ALL THE TIME WHEN THE SCREEN IS OFF and you can wave your hand over it to see missed calls, song playing, status bar, etc...
I'm gonna pass on this last feature. Not very helpful, and that must drain your battery somewhat faster, as you can even see the red glowing sensor on all the time when the screen is off. No thank you.
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smart stay i suppose only uses the ffc when your phone is about to sleep. if you set it to 1 min, it'll check every min, 5 min, every 5 min. i don't think it'll use much battery.
the only problem i have with smart stay is that even when i lay it down on my talbe in front of me while browsing on my pc, it wouldnt' sleep. i need to place it away from my face so the ffc can't see my eyes.
For a few years now, there has been another core or companion core in smart phones that handles minimal situations. It is a low power core that does not require the resources of the main processing unit. Tegra calls it “4+1” technology which means there are 4 cores running at the same speed and a slower fifth core that can handle most of what you’d be doing on your device. Here is their comments:
http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/02/technology-formerly-known-as-vsmp-gets-a-new-stage-name-4-plus-1-2/
VSMP has been around for years and Samsung has used it in their system architecture. Back when one of the big things was increasing processing power one of the big problems was dealing with the low power core.
It just doesn't make sense to use power when you don't need it. Its like the V8 engines which drop to 4 cylinders at the traffic light to reduce gas consumption.
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For a few years now, there has been another core or companion core in smart phones that handles minimal situations. It is a low power core that does not require the resources of the main processing unit. Tegra calls it “4+1” technology which means there are 4 cores running at the same speed and a slower fifth core that can handle most of what you’d be doing on your device. Here is their comments:
http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/02/technology-formerly-known-as-vsmp-gets-a-new-stage-name-4-plus-1-2/
VSMP has been around for years and Samsung has used it in their system architecture. Back when one of the big things was increasing processing power one of the big problems was dealing with the low power core.
It just doesn't make sense to use power when you don't need it. Its like the V8 engines which drop to 4 cylinders at the traffic light to reduce gas consumption.
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I think there is a difference here as the GS3 does NOT have this feature, you can test this by turning "smart rotation" off then testing the autorotation speed of both phones - which is how it was demonstrated to me. The Note 2 is noticably quicker.
I guess what im saying as in the OP , it is not part of the exynos SoC at all. The microprocessor is a seperate package on the PCB
I only had mine a week or so before the upgrade, but I would say it's definitely taken a hit. Now, screen is not always the biggest power consumer like it used to be. Android OS and Android System are taking a much bigger portion of the power than they used to. I always reboot the phone if something other than screen is monopolizing the battery.
Also, I heard there's a Qualcomm-specific bug related to powering the cameras, and that it's been a particular issue with the latest Skype builds.
I worry that they'll fix these issues quickly in the Android project but it'll take months for me to see the fix from Verizon, by which point my battery will have been subjected a lot of unnecessary heat and wear.
Tonnes of android os talk in this thread. Or try Googling it.
Basically, the more services you have on and apps syncing, the higher it gets. For experimentation .....disable sync, location, Google now and Amy other service you can find, and usually android os goes way down. Decide what's important to you and enable things again....but do like one change a day. And when your android os skyrockets again....you'll know the last thing you enabled is the main culprit.
Anyway.....a pile of battery tips in here, and android os talk. Take some time and read through some. Maybe start at last page and go back as far as you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418077
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Yes that battery life thread is very good. No change noticed here after the upgrade from 4.4
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Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
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Thanks, but I didn't really have to add anything except 4.4.2. The increased battery draw was pretty obvious after I applied the OTA. Since the upgrade, this phone doesn't have anywhere near the life that it once had. And even after the bugs that are draining it are addressed how long will it take to get the fix through Verizon?
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Trust me, you can fix it now....if you try. Just gotta troubleshoot.
Many have no such bugs....or they've disabled whatever has wrecked their battery.
Just gotta put in some time and your issues can be fixed.
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Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Rooted with 4.4.2 and xposed/gravity box... Excellent battery life. Always 24+ hours use and 6+ hours of screen time. Granted I don't game but I always get some GPS and lots of music and browsing. I love this phone. I'm selling my n5 now.
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I seem to be one of the few that's matching my Moto x's battery life on my N5.
Not sure why some have such bad battery life on either phone sometimes, I can only assume its app related and very hard to pin down.
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I have noticed no appreciable change in battery life on any of the builds that the phone has had since I got it in December. Some days it is excellent, the next day, the wind blows the other direction (literally and figuratively) and the battery life is terrible with no change in usage or where my phone spends most of its time.
I had the Android OS bug after the OTA. I reflashed the stock firmware in fastboot and now it's gone back down to a more manageable level.
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I actually had slightly better battery life on my Nexus5. I still haven't passed 7+ hours screen time on the MotoX. I did it multiple times with the Nexus5. Although I think the Nexus5 has some tech to save battery while reading or screen is still. It still wasn't enough to make me choose it over the awesomeness that is the MotoX. Although I do miss that raw power every so often.
I too have had the random drain issue. It's definitely app related and since I reset and have stopped installing outdated apps I've been fine.
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You know, I thought it was just me, but the battery life definitely why down after 4.4.2! Yes they added a couple of features, but not that many for the drop in battery life experienced
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My battery life is better on 4.4.2
The issues are with apps that have not been updated since kit kat. I've since removed such apps and have been enjoying much better battery life.
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Installed ds battery saver. And let discharge overnight. Gsam reported a 2%/hr discharge. I had some apps not be shutoff
Install a xposed module appopsx or find a app on the play store if you don't have xposed. 4.4.2 requires root.
It's the built in permissions management. You can disable location for what app for example. It shows you what app is using that permission and how long ago it used it.
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I unlocked and finally upgraded to 4.4.2 on Tuesday the 18th. I had a four day weekend and was on my phone A LOT (because I wasn't at work), so I wouldn't consider it normal usage to compare with. I'm waiting patiently for my averages to level off now that I'm back at work and on normal patterns again.
Before I wiped I took a screenshot of my averages according to GSAM, and it was showing 15h7m (7h42m active) average battery life, with 5h3m (7h12m max) screen on time.
I am currently a little below that, 12h20m (7h33m active) average battery life, with 5h28m (5h17m max) SoT. I was on my phone basically all day Friday-Sunday and had it on and off the charger. I haven't really had a full cycle of waking up, using the phone all day, and going to bed yet.
The apps I am running now are almost all identical. I actually removed 2-3 of them after finding that Gravity Box could emulate the features of standalone apps that I was using.
I am not using Greenify (I didn't see any substantial gain from it), but I do have the Snapdragon Battery Guru.
Overall, I don't think it's worse.
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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SymbioticGenius said:
This was my drain while I slept last night. That's even better than I thought it was. 4.4.2 BTW. I'm pretty sure I don't have any apps installed that haven't been updated since Kit Kat came out.
Having updated applications makes a huge difference.
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Some have got down to 0.5 per hour drain on standby, but I never could. Our x is about 1 also. Its strange, cause its set up about the same as my n5 and it can get to 0.4 usually, not in airplane mode either.
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The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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That's part of it I'm sure. Maybe the radio? Who knows what else. LOL
Still.....better battery at the end of the day than my n5....with my usage.
An extremely light user may get more mileage with lower standby for sure, but doesn't really affect my wife. She charges over night regardless.
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SymbioticGenius said:
The 5 is a beast on standby drain. I miss that. I'm not even going to try for less on the X. I just attribute it to the Touchless and Active Controls. Whether that's the case or not, who knows.
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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I have always wondered if touchless and active notifications were the ones to be blamed for the average 1%/h drain on standby but never did a test to try it out, until today
I charged my phone to 100%, turned off touchless controls and active notifications and let it rest through the night, when I woke up 5h and a half later (yes, I usually don't get much time of sleep), I was still on 100%, just I did when I had my N4
I guess these stuff take so much battery because they have to keep the phone "awake" all the time to recognize your voice and to know if your phone is upside down or in your pocket or whatever and as much as motorola made them separate CPUs to handle it with less battery consuptiom, they still take that 1%/h... Probably we would get a higher %/h if it wasn't for the 8 chip processor motorola came up with
Actually I even think that it has something/all to do with the high android OS usage that we get, and to be honest, I really don't mind getting 1%/h drain on standby overnight if I can wake up any time in the morning and ask to my phone to do almost anything I want or check my notifications without having to light up the whole screen, so I'm quite pleased with it
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Now we just need to test it througout the day with touchless control and active notifications off
I am on the latest 7.0 beta, T-Mobile version, I am getting pretty frustrated. I only get ~2 hours of on screen time. Right now at 30% and Android System has used 1350 mAh and CPU total is close to 5 hours.
Attached some pictures from yesterday and basically the same exact thing - maybe one of the packages listed is killing the battery?
I know there are a lot of posts about this issue but nothing that I've found useful unfortunatlely.
Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
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Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
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Been thinking about doing that, but not sure why it got really bad all of a sudden. I could get 3 to 4 hours before.
I think I'll wait until the official release is out and then do a reset - hopefully it comes out soon.
Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
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Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
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I am getting pretty fed up. Thought the new updates would make it better but no go for me.
If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
Looks like a lot of you are very unlucky. My battery life is superb! At the end of the day I still have ~35% battery remaining. I recharge every night regardless of how much battery I have left, so it does me just fine
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If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
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I would strongly advise to stay away from any of those 'fancy' package disablers.
They do no good and often deteriate things. I have on average over 8hours SOT and never used disablers.
Most Samsung apps don't put any drain on the battery. It's things like Facebook etc that hog resources.
Yeah, if only i got Facebook apps installed. I have fully working locations, notifications and other stuff - most of services I disabled are feedbacks, silent loggers and stuff I dont need or use. Only corrupted app is Gmail - which I don't use.
I got sync switched on, lots of calls, auto brightness, voice assistant and usually get 5 hours SOT during my usage which isn't bad at all.
So not sure what did it, but I installed Greenify and also changed from 1080p to 1440p and I get about 3ish hours on screen time. Still terrible but will do for now.
My phone also feels faster after changing resolution back to 1440p. So weird.
Disable ubication and always on display.
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Disable ubication and always on display.
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I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
ubication?
shahran said:
I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
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I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
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I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
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I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
ww.techspot.com/amp/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
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I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
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Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
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Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
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I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
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I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
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I don't really see a discussion in the fact that AOD uses a lot of battery if you keep it on all day, it's pretty much guaranteed that AOD is the main culprit. And your own experience with your phone and its settings is worth a lot more than the experiences from some tech website. Everyone's phone/settings is different.
Sooo, I just got the Fossil Q Explorist HR. And so far, I LOVE it. It looks so good. It's better looking than my Gear S3, way lighter, and a lot thinner too.
BUT, so far, battery life isn't looking good. I got it today, so I definitely need a couple days to be sure, but I've had it off of the charger for less than 3 hours and it's at 64%. I did all of the setup while it was charging. All I've done off the charger is update some apps, change the complications, and setup Fit.
What I've done to hopefully help with battery life (again, while charging), is turn off everything except Bluetooth and location, I've disabled any apps I don't feel I need or hopefully won't cause problems disabling, I've turned off permissions for a couple as well. I have always-on on, auto brightness, Fit with heart rate on, and that's pretty much it. I really need to get a full day out of a smartwatch, INCLUDING using it for up to an hour workout with Fit. The Gear S3 would do that as well as last about 24+ hours.
Am I missing something? Should I NOT disable apps or turn off any permissions? Is there a better way to set this up to get some decent battery life out of it? I really really want to get rid of my Gear S3, and I'm hoping this one will help me do that. Let me know what you have done to improve your batter, and how many hours your watch lasts.
Please and thanks!
Man, Fit workout really takes some battery! I used strength training, which detects workouts, has a built-in timer, etc. It used 24% in one hour... I'm going to use the weight lifting one tomorrow to see if it's any better, it doesn't do any of that, just heart rate and calories burned. Before my workout, 4 hours in I was down to 76%. 6% per hour. Not horrible, but could be a LOT better.
Seriously, anyone have any tips to help with the battery life? Disabling any particular apps, permissions, anything? Should I NOT disable anything? I really want to keep this watch, but as it stands, without using it to workout, I *might* get through the day. I refuse to have to charge this thing at some point in the day just to make it until I take it off.
I use mine for notifications, music control, maps, alarms and today even translating. I went to work at 5:30AM and came back at 6-7PM and had 53% left. I also called an Uber and tried Shazam and some other stuff with it. I use fitness only for my daily walking.
I can't complain.
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I use mine for notifications, music control, maps, alarms and today even translating. I went to work at 5:30AM and came back at 6-7PM and had 53% left. I also called an Uber and tried Shazam and some other stuff with it. I use fitness only for my daily walking.
I can't complain.
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What watch do you have? And how did you set it up? That would be great. Mine's on the charger now. It was at 13% just a few minutes ago. Came off the charger at about 7:15am.
I have the Q Explorist HR (Silver with leather). I have display always on, turned on. I was Wi-Fi usually turned off but I had it turned on for some time too (I wish they would add Wi-Fi into the quick settings). Brightness was set on automatic. Gestures was all turned off, touch to wake was on. Location (GPS) was on. NFC was turned off (I never use it).
Also very important is the watch face you use. The more colors you have, the more information witch updates often you have on it, the faster it drains battery. So I use the simple black watch face, with battery, weather, date and alarm widget.
The 2nd battery killer is the connection (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS). Try to stay with 1.
Gesture controls often activate when you even don't need it because you run or shake hands. So I turned them off. Only touch to wake I leave turned on. The watch wakes up on notifications anyway and time is shown as well. If I need weather, I touch the screen.
I have the "OK google" detection turned off. Never using it.
I hope this helps you squeeze some more juice out of the watch, I was very surprised yesterday how long the Battery survived. But as mentioned, I use it for basic stuff.
Take care and let me know if it helped.
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I have the Q Explorist HR (Silver with leather). I have display always on, turned on. I was Wi-Fi usually turned off but I had it turned on for some time too (I wish they would add Wi-Fi into the quick settings). Brightness was set on automatic. Gestures was all turned off, touch to wake was on. Location (GPS) was on. NFC was turned off (I never use it).
Also very important is the watch face you use. The more colors you have, the more information witch updates often you have on it, the faster it drains battery. So I use the simple black watch face, with battery, weather, date and alarm widget.
The 2nd battery killer is the connection (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS). Try to stay with 1.
Gesture controls often activate when you even don't need it because you run or shake hands. So I turned them off. Only touch to wake I leave turned on. The watch wakes up on notifications anyway and time is shown as well. If I need weather, I touch the screen.
I have the "OK google" detection turned off. Never using it.
I hope this helps you squeeze some more juice out of the watch, I was very surprised yesterday how long the Battery survived. But as mentioned, I use it for basic stuff.
Take care and let me know if it helped.
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Thanks! This is very helpful, and makes me hopeful since we have the same watch (mines the gunmetal grey). Did you disable anything, like apps, turn off permissions, anything like that?
No problem.
Not really, I use mostly Spotify app and 1-2 other but didn't disable any. Didn't even know I could do that.
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No problem.
Not really, I use mostly Spotify app and 1-2 other but didn't disable any. Didn't even know I could do that.
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Yeah, you can disable quite a few actually. And turn certain permissions off on some. The problem is, some apps talk to others, and you can actually cause more battery use if one is disabled, or something turned off. I'm so new to wear os, I have no idea if I'm causing that or not. I'm going to see what today brings, but otherwise I'm going to reset the watch tonight and leave apps alone.
Thanks again. I'll report back for sure.
I will look into that, thanks. I am using my watch today since 5AM and now it's 3PM here. I have 69% left.
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Another questions, are you able to connect your watch with the Fossil Q app on Android? It tells me that the connection failed all the time while my phone is connected to the watch.
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Another questions, are you able to connect your watch with the Fossil Q app on Android? It tells me that the connection failed all the time while my phone is connected to the watch.
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I haven't tried. Is there any benefit to it?
So, I turned off wrist wake up, and that was the trick! I took my watch off at around 9pm last night (off the charger at 7am), and even after an hour workout and run, I still had close to 40% left. And I actually don't mind just seeing the always on face most of the time. It's a little less annoying the constant waking up and such. Thanks, that really helped. Def keeping the watch now
Glad it helped you. But crazy how one setting can make such a difference.
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Glad it helped you. But crazy how one setting can make such a difference.
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Seriously! I would have never guessed that it waking up when tilted used that much battery. It's seriously at least twice as much battery life now.
I know right, I am testing it atm which Wi-Fi, GPS, NFC and heart rate stuff on all time and even then the battery life is more then 1 Day.
This one function is a major energy killer. Hopefully the Wear OS 3 update fixes this.
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I know right, I am testing it atm which Wi-Fi, GPS, NFC and heart rate stuff on all time and even then the battery life is more then 1 Day.
This one function is a major energy killer. Hopefully the Wear OS 3 update fixes this.
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I've had GPS and heart tracker on this whole time. Those are essential to me. The only thing I dislike about not having the tilt to wake on is, the always-on does not really work with adaptive brightness it seems. If it's darker when the screen is fully on, it stays that way even with I go outside for example. It also takes a few touches sometimes to wake up. Are you having either of these problems?
Anyway, agreed on the new Wear OS. I really hope it fixes some battery issues.
Yes, I experience the same issues. The Auto Brightness works fine for me but the extra taps to wake up are true.
They said roll-out is until end of October so let's hope it's starting soon.
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