SDcard options with Root? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Galaxy S5 on Sprint's network which is currently not rooted and completely stock. Problem is the storage on the phone is only 16GB which can be quite limiting at times. I know I can move some applications to the SD card however even when moving the applications it leaves a chunk of the program on the internal storage plus any app upgrade gets installed on the internal flash not the SD card.
What I'm hoping to do is
1) keep the stock software (possibly remove some of the bloatware)
2) use the microSD card for all applications instead of the internal flash (I have a class 10 64GB MicroSD card)
3) retain use of google pay (I think this can be done with root blockers/hiders?)
So is the above possible? How would I go about doing the above?
If I do root the phone I believe the phone will then indicate that its been tampered with (Knox?) can this indicator later be reversed? reinstalling the original Samsung software, or is this a permanent side effect of rooting?
Thanks,
-TL

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'convert' to adaptive storage

I feel like such a noob. I have a 16 GB model with a 128 micro SD card. I was expecting MM to come out much earlier than this (I'm on Verizon) but some time ago I had to not only point my music to the SD card but I also had to move a bunch of apps to the SD card in Lollipop because I was running out of space.
What is the most direct and foolproof way to backup my phone (not rooted), convert to adaptive storage and then get back to where I was with the least amount of work?
Thanks for any suggestions
Root it and use titanium backup
stevevetter said:
I feel like such a noob. I have a 16 GB model with a 128 micro SD card. I was expecting MM to come out much earlier than this (I'm on Verizon) but some time ago I had to not only point my music to the SD card but I also had to move a bunch of apps to the SD card in Lollipop because I was running out of space.
What is the most direct and foolproof way to backup my phone (not rooted), convert to adaptive storage and then get back to where I was with the least amount of work?
Thanks for any suggestions
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Move apps back to internal storage, but free up space if you don't have it; you can copy the entirety of user-facing internal storage via MTP to a temporary directory on a PC, if you absolutely need the space for apps. Then, copy the entirety of the SD card to a temporary directory on a computer using either a microSD USB reader or via MTP through the phone itself. This will take an hour or so (maybe much longer) depending on how much data needs copying. If you don't need to free up space from internal storage, deal only with the SD card data.
You can then format the SD card as internal, and copy everything back to it via MTP. Moving apps to the SD card in MM is a bit more clumsy, and hopefully Google will fix that. But, as it stands, you have to individually move supported apps to the SD card by tapping on the app within Apps, and selecting Storage. Total step backwards, IMO.
Keep in mind that MM defaults to USB charging when connecting your phone to a computer, so pull the notification shade down, select USB for charging, then use the File Transfer (MTP) option.
so I think I followed Jason.Droid's suggestion right
I didn't feel like rooting to go about this so I did the move & copy thing. With minimal usage all things seem to work fine.
I am surprised by one thing though. I had thought that integrating the SD card via adaptive storage was supposed to just 'abosorb' it into what is shown as internal storage. Instead what I see is a summary at the top of 18.66 GB used of 133 , then a line item for Android OS, a line item for internal storage (7.11 GB used of 9.50 GB) and line item for the SanDisk SD card (5.04 GB used of 117 GB).
Is this how it is supposed to look? Does MM just handle where to put apps and data from now on so I don't get the internal storage full errors? Do I have to flip a setting to indicate to install apps on the SD card (like it was @ android 2.2)?
I'm expecting MM to just handle it. I also noticed the SD card option in Camera settings is now gone, so that to me is another indicator I'm in good shape.
Thanks again for any comments/confirmation.

Marshmallow Flex Storage: How to upgrade to higher capacity MicroSD card?

Hey all,
Forgive me if this question has been asked before (Google did not help me find an answer) but I'm looking for the "best practice" method of upgrading my MicroSD card once it's already been mapped to internal storage using Marshmallow's "Flex Storage" capability.
I bought a 32GB Moto X Pure Edition and promptly installed my fastest MicroSD card (a 32GB PNY U3 Turbo card) and set it to function as internal storage after the Marshmallow update.
Since then, I bought a 64GB U3 card so that I'd have ample space for music and video. What I'm trying to figure out is the process to:
1) Take a snapshot of my internal storage (i.e. copy to an external HDD)
2) Remove the "old" microSD without any detrimental affect to installed applications
3) Mount the "new" larger microSD as internal storage
4) Copy everything back to the new internal storage
Is there a documented process for doing this, or some sort of migration tool I can use to upgrade the microSD capacity?
Good question
Bumpage. Has anyone seen anything on the nets describing the storage upgrade process for Flex Storage?
Probably not possible unless you flash a new ROM over the old. My understanding is that the sd card, once made to be part of the phone storage, is that it is 128bit encrypted in EXT4 format.
bw03 said:
Probably not possible unless you flash a new ROM over the old. My understanding is that the sd card, once made to be part of the phone storage, is that it is 128bit encrypted in EXT4 format.
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The thing is I currently have more internal storage free space available than actual data stored on my SD, so ideally there should be a way to migrate my data back to true internal storage, eject the SD, and replace with a bigger card?
Even if I have to do it manually, I want to make sure I don't screw with installed apps.
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Might be a stupid question but have you tried taking out the card and seeing what happens?
I think the moral here is to start with the largest capacity card you think you'll need. 64GB cards are dirt cheap these days. Unless you need your entire mp3 collection on your phone, I doubt there is a real need for anything bigger.
I mentioned this in another thread, but probably more appropriate here. There is a way to partition the card for both internal and external storage. Portion of it is used for apps/data while the rest for pics/music and is visible when not in the phone.
The question is, can you create a twrp image of the system & internal storage with one sd card. Replace it with a different one, repartition it (in recovery), then restore your data?
http://blog.sam.liddicott.com/2016/02/android-6-semi-adopted-storage.html
Hello,
There might be a solution.
(Please notice I translate the android names from French, so there might be some variations)
In the settings/storage, click on the interal memory line.
In the settings -the 3 dots top right-, you might be able to transfer data from SD to internal memory.
Then, you can format back you sd card, remove and replace it, and voila, that should work.
My 2 cents,

SD being simulated on on board storage

So after 3 years of stock on my n900a I flashed 4.4.2 and rooted using towel root, and remounted my SD and imported my pics, installed exposed and other stuff, I was uninstalling bloat ware and fond that my SD wasn't being use so i push some apps and it stayed the same size so I looked at the partition data and saw two SD locations one in the on board and the real SD card, and the application manger pushes to the fake SD card making the 64GB card useless.
The Fake SD is storage/emulated/legacy, Size 21.5gb s same as the free space on board.
The Real SDis storage/extSdCard 59.7gb the reaming space on the SD.
The Two dirs have all most the same layout.
I have screen shots but the ten post thing wont let me paste them.
Thanks,
Suggest your phones forum is the place to ask .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
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watsonad2000 said:
So after 3 years of stock on my n900a I flashed 4.4.2 and rooted using towel root, and remounted my SD and imported my pics, installed exposed and other stuff, I was uninstalling bloat ware and fond that my SD wasn't being use so i push some apps and it stayed the same size so I looked at the partition data and saw two SD locations one in the on board and the real SD card, and the application manger pushes to the fake SD card making the 64GB card useless.
The Fake SD is storage/emulated/legacy, Size 21.5gb s same as the free space on board.
The Real SDis storage/extSdCard 59.7gb the reaming space on the SD.
The Two dirs have all most the same layout.
I have screen shots but the ten post thing wont let me paste them.
Thanks,
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The issue was with an sd card fixer that was redirecting the sd cards dir. To fix it you need to back up card ad phone then factory reset then shutdown, vol up+Home+pwr then refomate/wipe data, then flash your rom and reinstall any thing you need from google or back up and root.

Adoptive storage...wth?

Hey guys
I updated to Marshmallow from Lollipop coz of terrible battery drain etc
I just found out that after installing marshmallow that it uses adoptive storage. I use a 128gb external sd that I do NOT want integrated with internal storage.
Is there a way to keep MM and still use my external sd totally separate like it was with Lollipop or do I need to go back down to Lollipop?
I prefer being able to remove my external sd to use with my computer, etc.
Thanks in advance!
Are you on stock Marshmallow? I am, and there is no option for adoptable storage. As far as I'm aware, Samsung doesn't support it on our phone (see http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...rage-on-Galaxy-S7-and-S7-edge-no-root_id79189 for example).
Have you actually seen the option, or are you just going by what you've been told? Even if it does support adoptable storage, you should definitely have the option not to use it, but to specify that your SD Card is 'portable'.
Are you rooted, using stock os/rom, or what? I had my note 4 with marshmallow twice, once with my sd card adopted and the last without. For the last rom on marshmallow(beanstalk), I had it separate because adoptable was awful. Maybe it wasn't working the way it should have, but most things were filling up the phone storage 1st. my sd card was barely touched. though, I only have a 64gb card. Having it separate was better for me, moving files around and downloading and whatever. The only issue was not being able to move apps or install apps on my sd card...which i absolutely hated. I just recently dropped back down to lollipop because too many issues popping up on the phone....and tired of fighting doze.

Quick Question Would a Custom Rom allow me to FULLY utilize the SD cards as internal?

Hi, I'm currently on the Stock Unrooted G5 Plus Android 7.0, the device is only a 16GB but only 10gb usable space.
I have a 64gb SD card mounted, I formatted it as internal and I thought that would allow all the apps that are/get installed to the SD card. but it doesn't work for every app and well I end running out of space.
Would a custom rom fully utilize the SD as internal space?
Not directly... But rooting may allow things like App2SD or Link2SD to work and move apps to the SD card (may require formatting/partitioning of the SD card).
Under developer options there is a setting to ignore the application manifest and allow moving apps to the SD card anyway (Settings > Developer Options > Force allow apps on external). That may allow you to move a few more apps, however system apps will still be stuck on the device's storage. I feel your pain - my G5+ is 16GB too...
I didn't know the G5+ came with 16GB too
M1810 said:
I didn't know the G5+ came with 16GB too
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Same here,
Whn i was born i saw G5 Plus in 4/32gb n bought it..
2/3 gb ram on oreo+ devices doesnt perform as it is meant to.
:fingers-crossed:
The devs hv made our device a "mini oneplus":good::highfive:
Don't make you SD function as internal. The commercial SDs are not meant to function as internal memories, thus get easily corrupted. I myself got 3 cards corrupted after turning them into internal SDs. Just stick to the external formatting option. In any case, the apps would operate more slowly as soon as you install them on the SD, even when formatted as internal.

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